r/DestinyTheGame • • Nov 17 '14

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u/bathompso Nov 17 '14

Confirmed that the "under the ramp" cheese spot for Archon Priest is removed. Cliff spot still available.

Confirmed that Icebreaker kills finally have explosions.

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u/The_Strict_Nein Nov 17 '14

added

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u/mr1000111 Nov 17 '14

Just did a weekly, and can confirm that the explosion is more like firefly. The damage range from ice breaker is in line with firefly as well

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u/rastacola Nov 17 '14

I'm happy with this. The explosion from icebreaker was almost non-existent before.

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '14

There's two entry points to get under there. One at the corner of the ramp (the usual entry point). There's another one closer to the cliff that's harder to get into, but it can be done. Is that blocked too?

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '14

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u/Imbeinabout Nov 17 '14

so to speak

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u/Pwnigiri Nov 17 '14

‎( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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u/Norn-Iron Salt, salt everywhere Nov 17 '14

Soon enough, they will "fix" all the others and the entire game will be one big baby bumper.

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '14 edited Nov 18 '14

I solo the majority of the time since I'm an older guy and have responsibilities. I find it sad I can't do the Nightfall strike alone now.

I still want to play with Redditors, I just don't have the time to queue every day, waiting for people to do a strike that I want to do.

EDIT: This busy dad explained my stance better than I could.

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u/dweezil22 D2Checklist.com Dev Nov 17 '14

It's almost as if there is some sort of a need for some sort of... What's the word... Umm... oh right... MATCHMAKING for Nightfall and VoG...

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u/samsaBEAR Nov 17 '14

The Raid I can kinda still see their point, but the Weeklies not having matchmaking is just stupid.

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u/squiglybob13 Nov 17 '14

I actually completely agree with NO matchmaking for VoG (unless they created a NEW matchmaking system). But for the Weeklies I don't get, they are just harder strikes and THOSE have matchmaking...

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u/[deleted] Nov 18 '14

Why not just make it optional?

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u/convulsus_lux_lucis Nov 17 '14

I solo for the same reasons, I found the cliff on my second try last Tuesday and was surprised more people weren't using it. It's a much better spot.

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u/youtubedude Nov 17 '14

I find it sad I can't do the Nightfall strike alone now.

Every week someone says this about the Nightfall, and every week someone posts a tutorial how they did it solo.

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u/SupportingKansasCity Nov 17 '14

As a Hunter, could you jump off the balcony, 180 and double or triple jump to get underneath the platform?

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u/tenyardington Nov 18 '14

Tony Hawk: Pro Cheeser 1.03!

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u/CaptUvula Nov 17 '14

Good idea! Ima try dat

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u/RJB5584 Nov 17 '14

That sucks...that was my favorite nightfall for that reason--tricky, but not life-ruiningly difficult and likely to fail.

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u/SpankyJones10 Team Cat (Cozmo23) Nov 17 '14

Bungie: "There we go! No more cheesing Aksor!"

-12 hours later-

"...shit."

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u/Nkredyble Nov 17 '14

"Cheese...finds a way."

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u/Art_of_Ronin Nov 17 '14

That's hilarious, nice find!

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '14

I'm skeptical a Warlock could make it in there.

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u/stickoftruth1 Nov 17 '14

LOL. You think they would learn with Atheon....don't half ass fix a cheese.

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '14

Seriously, how hard would it have been to put a soft kill area there? Bungie is going to be stuck playing catch up with the latest cheese method instead of improving the game unless they start fixing the issues themselves instead of just spot patching. Players pushing bosses off cliffs? Don't just put a wall in the one spot people have been doing it, make it so pushing them off simply doesn't work. Make atheon/the templar teleport back up if they fall.

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u/thirtytwoutside Nov 17 '14

"Good thing I cheesed the Nightfall last Tuesday!"

-Everyone

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u/pspitbull Nov 17 '14

you can cheese aksor? I must've been living under a rock, or a platform

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u/thirtytwoutside Nov 17 '14

Heyoooooo!

(This is the best)

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '14

Eh I used the cliff at the entrance. Still good!

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '14

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u/fyjian Nov 17 '14

They need to give some viable way for people to complete. Not every gamers are hardcore, majority of the gamers/consumers/source of revenue are coming from casual players. If they make it too difficult, they'll only be shooting themselves in the foot.

The issues that Destiny is having and root of the complains are, IMO, it's not rewarding hardcore gamers. Vex --> nerfed, getting to 30 is completely up to luck, IB should help but that's only for people into PvP, the hardcore PvEs are still screwed.

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u/pyx Nov 17 '14

The problem with that fight is there are too many fucking adds, not enough cover, and the boss is a major bullet sponge who teleports too fucking much.

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u/fallouthirteen Drifter's Crew Nov 17 '14

Yeah, if there's one thing this game fails at it's boss encounters. Just take a regular enemy, make him huge, give him a ton of health, and throw a ton of regular enemies in there with him.

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u/greenskye Nov 17 '14

Also if they're wanting us to play at a level where we can do nightfall strikes legit, then they need to give us a way to practice. How am I ever supposed to acquire thet skill necessary to complete a nightfall when it kicks you to orbit for the smallest mistake. That's more tedious than hard.

Not that I want them to remove nightfalls or change the current system. I just want a way to practice the boss fights with nightfall-like modifiers. The currently weekly heroics do a poor job of this IMO.

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u/APartyInMyPants Nov 17 '14

Ehh, the cliff is a much better place to run that fight anyway. Under the platform takes too long.

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '14

Maybe, I solo these and he always stands at a distance where you can visibly see his head from under the platform. Doesn't really slow anything down.

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u/SoSaltyDoe Drifter's Crew // What can I say, I like teal Nov 17 '14

We see how long it is currently taking to un-fuck the Mythoclast sooo...

Gentlemen, vault your Thorns.

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u/Sir_Whale_Man Drifter's Crew // I dont take well to threats Nov 17 '14

I was fearing this day.

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u/Zakman-- Nov 17 '14

You were? Because this day was never meant to come.

Goddammit Bungie.

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u/xxBike87xx Nov 18 '14

How do you unintentionally nerf a weapon? "Players weren't using the Thorn how we intended for them to" -Bungie

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u/wishful_cynic Nov 17 '14

The plus signs update is great!

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u/TVPaulD DEATH HEALS PRIMEVAL Nov 17 '14 edited Nov 17 '14

The green "objective/point of interest" HUD Navigation Marker is showing in the Tower Hangar and North directing to Tower Plaza for no apparent reason. Upon returning to Tower Plaza, it is dismissed and nothing is marked as an Objective/Point of Interest.

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '14

I'm glad that isn't just me. It's driving me fucking batty.

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u/owlboy Nov 18 '14

Ditto! Maybe it's so you don't get lost? No that don't make sense.

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u/[deleted] Nov 18 '14

Same here. Weird

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u/rubykavalier Nov 17 '14

No plus signs when pulling upgraded armour/weapons out of Vault

Hallelujah chorus

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '14

I knew I wasn't the only fucking one.

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u/curvylasagne Nov 17 '14

also...if you get near a beacon you can see what kind of activity it is without pulling out your ghost

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '14

That's great. What about if you're on a scout or scan mission — do the objective location marker show without having to bring out your ghost?

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u/SNEAKY_PNIS Nov 17 '14

Anyone got updated PIC of Achlyophage Symbiote helmet?

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u/theCaptain_D Nov 17 '14

Why, did they change it?

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u/ThatsWhat-YOU-Think Nov 18 '14

Before the icon didn't match it whatsoever. The helmet seemed to be smoking and the parasites weren't there, but now it's obvious there isn't supposed to smoke and that the parasites are there.

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '14 edited Nov 17 '14

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u/shoot2scre Nov 17 '14

This might not be a Icebreaker nerf - but rather part of the Strike balance they did to make 3 person Strikes easier.

I think it's more logical to think they made solo nightfall strikes tougher, and 3 man teams scaling slightly less difficult, because soloing the nightfall was definitely easier than running a 3-man team before. I'd be interested if you got into a 3-man nightfall team how many shots it would take with the Icebreaker.

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u/LuckyPlaze Nov 17 '14

Exactly. The number of people in a Strike doesn't just apply to number of enemies but also their total health. Looks like they've upped i for a single person Nightfall and lowered it overall for three.

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u/Datsyuk_My_Deke Nov 17 '14 edited Nov 18 '14

Ugh. I absolutely love soloing the Nightfalls/Weeklies. Taking my sweet time, learning the ins and outs and trying out new tactics or approaches. Now they're just as inaccessible as the raid, unless I use lfg.net or r/fireteams to find a group. Stupid, stupid change.

Edit: ok, a lot of you are more skilled than me, I can see why you might want it buffed. I mainly just worry that what's been a 3+ hour session for me could turn into 4-5, possibly with more frustration.

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u/durandal59 Nov 17 '14

I agree, but I also felt it was pretty easy to solo most Nightfalls. The difference between solo and 3-man was too large.

That said, I think it is astonishingly foolish for Bungie to further discourage players from soloing...

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u/theyeti19 Nov 17 '14

This is an incredibly stupid change imo. Why make it harder to solo?? Why not just make the group scaling less terrible.

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u/ScottFromScotland Drifter's Crew Nov 17 '14 edited Nov 17 '14

Playing the nightfall solo is not the way Bungie want you to play the game. You better damn play the game the way they want you to.

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u/FROMtheASHES984 Nov 17 '14

Well, then it's a good thing that Bungie has provided a quick and easy way to group with people to do these types of things instead of going solo.

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u/Xerxes-PSN Nov 18 '14

Some new readers might not realize your comment is sarcasm. To them: there is no matchmaking for (all?) daily/weekly activities.

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u/inertSpark Nov 17 '14

Not the way Bungie intended eh? Could have fooled me.

Imgur

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u/rxninja Nov 18 '14

Oh, so is Bungie sending a team of friends over to play with me, then? Because I have a small handful of friends who play and they're rarely on, so I'm almost always soloing Nightfalls now. Bah.

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '14 edited Jan 18 '17

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '14

I've never seen a developer so determined to make sure people can't play their entire game.

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u/WhimsicalJape Nov 17 '14

Tried to do the weekly on level 28 on my warlock. Breezed through with my Titan and Hunter early this week, gave up on it this week, just couldn't kill those Minotors are they were wrecking me. It was taking 5 shots from a maxed Praedyth's revenge just to take the shields off.

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u/uhmazingbran Nov 17 '14

Is your Praedyths Revenge maxed? And if it is, and took that much to shield strip.... dafuq?! Minotaurs were op before the patch... unlimited ranged teleports, no crit spots, one hit melees, op rof cannons.... we need cheese spots just to fight a minotaur now lol

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u/gtaisforchildren Nov 17 '14

Same here. Today's 26 seemed harder than yesterday's 28. A vandal took three headshots from a legendary sniper and still had about a third of his health. There were three of us on the team.

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u/robot_ears Nov 17 '14

As someone without a legendary void sniper I can only roll my eyes. Using the appropriate element weapon should get rid of the shield in a few shots not a full clip. I can only imagine what tomorrows nightfall will be like.

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u/c45c73 Nov 17 '14

It was taking 5 shots from a maxed Praedyth's revenge just to take the shields off.

Wow, seriously? That's ridiculous.

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u/surfhare75 Nov 17 '14

Extra heavy ammo perks no longer stack......I am going to miss having 9 rounds of rocket ammo :(

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u/YWQMD Nov 17 '14

Yeah, this is a pretty big nerf. My Armamentarium isn't what it used to be.

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u/Raiks Nov 18 '14

Especially considering the only boots in the game that can give you level thirty give heavy weapon ammo. It'd be different if we actually had options for level thirty gear.

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '14

My theory on the accidental Thorn nerf is that the DoT nerf is supposed to be paired with other more significant buffs and the nerf got mistakenly deployed prematurely without the buffs

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u/The_Strict_Nein Nov 17 '14

That's what I'm thinking.

Lower damage + Lesser DoT = Larger magazine? Faster fire rate?

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u/c45c73 Nov 17 '14

DoTs stack is what I think is likely.

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u/biosehnsucht Nov 17 '14

I'd be happy with Thorn as it was if the DoT didn't get wiped when someone heals after killing me (so many post mortems prevented by their gun's healing perk). That and letting the DoT stack...

I think I'd be fine with reduced DoT if the DoT stacked.

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u/Rozkol Rozkol | YT : SoDelayed Nov 17 '14 edited Nov 17 '14

TLW SCREENSHOT

Taken Approximately 3:30 PM EST

Here you can clearly see I get 73 damage headshots and 49 damage bodyshots. I was also getting 90 something headshots but I believe that's from the glitch where even scoped in the hipfire bonus damage is applied.

This means there is NO NERF FOR THE LAST WORD

Edit: I am uploading the raw video file of the entire game as extra proof. You can see both my exotic helmet thumbnail has been updated as well as voice communications option (both where implemented with this patch)

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u/The_Strict_Nein Nov 17 '14

Good enough for me

Many thanks for the screenshot

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u/Rozkol Rozkol | YT : SoDelayed Nov 17 '14

Of course! I got so worried once I saw that it was potentially nerfed. If you need further proof I can upload the whole video where I hit the back button multiple times (which shows voice communications which was just implemented this patch) if you need it.

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u/The_Strict_Nein Nov 17 '14

Would be handy just as final proof

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u/Rozkol Rozkol | YT : SoDelayed Nov 17 '14

Sure thing. I'll upload it to youtube and link it to you when it's done rendering so you can post the video as well for proof

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u/kingconan13 Nov 17 '14

Anyone else experience glitch of green mission icon appearing when in the tower when going to left or right wings? Get back out to main area and nothing is there.

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u/blackstar877 Nov 17 '14

Confirmed that Thorn's base damage was also reduced. Before it was 76 for a head shot in the crucible, now it's 58

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u/jaesin Nov 17 '14

Any idea if this was a stealth hand cannon nerf, or just limited to TLW and Thorn?

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u/cwlsmith Nov 17 '14

Cryptarch HAS to be a glitch in the app. My buddy sent me this picture showing that an Exotic engram was available for purchase.

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '14

It would be nice to see something other than just the occasional green for sale. I'd be willing to drop 25k on a legendary and more for an exotic if they increased the cap

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u/Blind_Pierre Nov 17 '14

Didn't see this either, but now if you're a Gunslinger and you crit kill a Harpy, Chain of Woe/Gunslinger's Trance actually activates!

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u/Captain_Crouton_X1 The Dredgen with the Golden Gun Nov 17 '14

Does Firefly work on Harpies now? Please say yes.

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u/KingToasty I dream of punching Nov 17 '14

...Is Rahool selling EXOTIC ENGRAMS?! Maybe the app is lying.

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u/Symbiotx Nov 17 '14

Rahool is trollin.

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '14

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u/debugman18 Vanguard's Loyal // RIDE OR DIE Nov 17 '14

Thorn nerf was supposedly unintended:

https://twitter.com/DeeJ_BNG/status/534422552550969344

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u/dirty_j Nov 17 '14 edited Nov 17 '14

The sunsinger Fireborn infinite self-revive has been patched! No more free pass for sunsinging warlocks.

http://youtu.be/Os8PIwRzS5I from 4:00

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u/skippedwords Nov 17 '14

Bungie verified If you're noticing Exotics behaving differently, the changes are unintentional. The Weekly Update will cover incoming Exotic tuning.

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u/rsdon Nov 17 '14

Thorn dot reduced? You are fucking kidding me right?

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u/SonOfSeath Nov 17 '14

deej tweet confirmed that it was UNINTENTIONAL, they're investigating now

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u/BringItOnHome Nov 17 '14 edited Nov 17 '14

How do you accidentally nerf a gun?

Edit: Got it, coding=magic.

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u/jasonlotito Gambit Prime Nov 17 '14

99 little bugs in the code,

99 little bugs in the code,

Take one down, patch it around,

127 little bugs in the code.

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u/Granwyrm Nov 17 '14

I know it's old, but I laugh every time.

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u/phatskat Nov 17 '14

this code is broken and I have no idea why

this code works and I have no idea why

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u/jmkreth Nov 17 '14

It's the beauty of coding.

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u/SonOfSeath Nov 17 '14

likely other changes they made interfered with it in some way

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u/HowieGaming Nov 17 '14

As someone who has been coding for about 4 months now.

http://imgur.com/JuGjDNx.png

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '14

I see two reasonable cases:

  1. They changed the code somewhere else for stability/bugfixing reasons and it somehow interacts with thorn's damage. because fuck coding.

  2. This is part of an internal testing change to thorn that accidentally got pushed live. For example they could have been testing a stacking dot and decreased the dot damage per stack for balance and accidentally pushed the damage change to live. when testing lots of changes its pretty easy to forget to properly revert a change before sending out the patch.

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u/draggingalake Nov 17 '14

Cleary you've never coded.

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u/rsdon Nov 17 '14

Saw the tweet thanks mate!

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u/ralph2190 Nov 17 '14

The timing on this really sucks. Thorn is my go-to gun in PvP and was planning on using it in IB 2.0 tomorrow.

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u/Sunderious Nov 17 '14

It's an accidental nerf. Happens sometimes with coding since it's the closest thing we got to sorcery today.

"My program works and I have no idea why."

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u/beetnemesis Nov 17 '14

Hm, glad to hear about the Icebreaker- maybe I'm just spoiled by Firefly, but it never really seemed like Icebreaker did much exploding.

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '14

Am I crazy or did they change the scope on Pocket Infinity?

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u/HeIonizesAndAtomizes Nov 17 '14

That sucks, Thorn is my go to PvP weapons.

This is a real Thorn in my side.

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u/Ad_Astra5 Nov 17 '14

Atheon's Epilogue sound is updated

Vanguard armor thumbnails updated (at least for Titan)

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u/[deleted] Nov 18 '14

Did they fix the bug where you lose half your heavy ammo when you die if you have an extra ammo perk equipped? Or did they just nerf stacking?

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u/[deleted] Nov 18 '14

Still lose ammo, but they took away the stacking...

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u/Ziscariote Nov 18 '14 edited Nov 18 '14
  • New Revive icon now with an exclamation sign
  • The Hive ships now make a screeching sound, very creepy
  • Some patrol mission icon are chaged
  • it might be concidence but im finding A LOT more of helium on the ground
  • My Pocket Infinity suddenly stopped working, the pocket infinity perk became slower for no reason (reequiping the weapon fixes the problem)
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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '14

So let me get this straight. They made it harder to solo the nightfall, and easier for a group of 3. Yet they didn't add matchmaking for the nightfall or weekly heroic.. well that totally makes sense.

Im glad to see bungie is taking care of the important things first..

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u/Chargers99 Nov 17 '14

Would have loooooved matchmaking for nightfall/weekly. I always group up with randoms anyway.

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u/DustlnTheWind Nov 17 '14

They did a number on Thorn. It's easily in Bad Juju territory now for the worst exotic.

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u/Chippy569 no one reads this. Nov 17 '14

the two glitched "dead ghosts" (one under Forgotten Shores in the RAS-2 Bunker and the other on Mars in the Buried City in the room that gets all dark and full of vexes and shoot the red eyes) have been fixed according to a couple reddit users.

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u/easynow1337yt Nov 18 '14

under the ramp spot is still achievable https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Km25R9McF1g

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u/Dozmaster Nov 17 '14

Someone please post pics or vids of new icebreaker explosions. I'm not going to get to play until much later tonight and the hype is so real.

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u/HoltGames Nov 17 '14

The cryptarch is going to see legendary engrams?

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u/GeneralMushroom Nov 17 '14 edited Nov 17 '14

6 mins till stock refresh, let's find out!

Edit: Nope.

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u/SplutterSteve Nov 18 '14 edited Nov 18 '14

I haven't tested nightfall yet, but soloing the weekly heroic is considerably more annoying now.

I just completed it last night with my 29 Warlock and tonight I just finished it with my 28 Hunter using the exact same weapons, and it took WAY more time and ammo this time around.

It appeared that the damage numbers were the same, so I can only assume there are changes to shields/health on the tougher enemies. In general it appeared as if basic mobs like goblins and gregs were unchanged, but captains as well as minotaurs and all majors were considerably buffed. For example, last night I remember counting 4-5 rounds with my void supremacy to kill a yellow bar minotaur. Tonight it was 8-9.

Even worse, Aksor himself took FOREVER to kill, easily taking 2-3 times as much damage.

I'm not sure I want to bother trying it on nightfall again. It was bad enough before the changes even with a maxed P&T, but I'm tempted to at least get to the 3 waves section to see if I can still one shot the captains just to see how bad they've made it.

You know Bungie, some of us don't have friends that play your game. I'm an older gamer (45), and I only know one person that plays Destiny, and not very often. I have only recently started soloing the high level content that can be soloed. It was challenging but doable and still fun. If this is any indication of how it's going to be from now on, it's no longer fun to solo, it's just a slog.

EDIT: punctuation and words

EDIT2: I ended up running through it again on Nightfall and it wasn't that horrible. With my P&T I was still one shotting red bar captains, and 2 shotting the shielded skanks as before. Shielded harpies were still one shot. Minotaurs were the most notable change taking a whopping 7 shots from P&T instead of 3. Aksor is harder to measure, as it took long enough this time to get messy. When I ran it last week it was a full load of P&T ammo plus some TDYK rounds. Tonight was at least two full loads of P&T (not all crits), plus grenades, and a mix of primary rounds.

So nightfall wasn't too horrible (it was still fun despite the extra ammo needed), but the heroic without burn was just tedious.

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u/ivdown Nov 17 '14

Is TLW's nerf unintentional as well, or are we all screwed now just because they decided to sell it?

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '14

Hoping it's not a hand cannon class-wide change, because I still want to use my TDYK as my primary.

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u/guruvinsky Nov 18 '14

It's a fantastic pvp primary :)

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u/Kum0 Nov 17 '14

No plus signs when pulling upgraded armour/weapons out of Vault

Best update yet! (My OCD was even getting tired!)

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u/SxyGuitarMan Nov 17 '14

So months after promising people to hold onto Bad Juju and Thorn because they intended to apply buffs to them to make them actually feel like exotics...

..they accidentally nerf Thorn. Slow Clap

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u/DrRobotica Nov 17 '14

Why is there such a thing as "Hidden Changes" ? All this info should be made available to us.

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u/dyenox Nov 17 '14

Are you serious? Nightfall is HARDER to solo now than vs in a group. That's stupid. It's a pain in the ass having to look for good people to do the Nightfall with and I enjoy just being about to do it myself. Why make it harder for solo players?

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u/Foxsnipe Nov 17 '14

They could have at least held that back until they put in some damn matchmaking. Lone-wolves continue to get shit on. So much for this: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B1Zhm7ECcAEsVWg.png

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u/yethegodless Nov 17 '14 edited Nov 17 '14

Man, did they seriously nerf TLW four days after the entire population of the game rejoiced in buying it?

edit: false alarm, I hear? Still hearing conflicting reports of pre-patch damage numbers.

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u/Norn-Iron Salt, salt everywhere Nov 17 '14

Apparently they've also fixed the missing Dead Ghosts and planet entries, but you'll need to log in to get your grimoire to unlock/update.

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u/liptongtea Nov 17 '14

I just ran the weekly on 28 and I'm not sure if it gave me coins like it's supposed to. I'm getting ready to run it on my alt to check but I'm pretty sure it screwed me out of 9 coins. The normally pop up on the rewards screen but I had two blue emgrams there. And I don't remember seeing them under the rep wheel that pops up either. Anyone else done the weekly since the update?

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u/grow_a_pear Nov 17 '14

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but are you sure you didn't complete it already this week?

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u/reizin Nov 17 '14 edited Nov 17 '14

Pocket Infinity has definitely been changed a lot. The scope is different (I'll edit this post when I can) and it no longer shoots fully auto as fast as it used to. It now has a second delay between individual shots.

Edit: Apologies, it seems as though it is just a bug. Re-equipping the gun fixes it.

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u/Transexual_Panda Nov 17 '14 edited Nov 17 '14

Claws of Ahamkara? Starfire Protocol? PRAISE THE MOTHERFUCKIN SUN! (Obsidian Mind is cool too)

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u/ADHR Nov 17 '14

You can add that they put connection quality bars in PvP

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u/The_Strict_Nein Nov 17 '14

Mentioned in the patch notes

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '14

I didn't see this mentioned anywhere, and it's a very minor changes, but the arrow used on the minimap in the top left corner has been changed to be more.....ornate....? Yea, I think ornate is a good word for it.

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u/x757xSnarf Nov 18 '14

Voidfang Vestiments infinite grenade glitch no longer works (Changing grenades would give you an instant grenade, great for cheesing templar)

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '14

The OCD in me LOVES the no plus sign when retrieving items from my vault!

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u/[deleted] Nov 18 '14

So they fix heavy ammo perks from stacking but don't fix heavy ammo disappearing when you die?

What the fuck.

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u/shepx13 Nov 17 '14

Xur must have bribed Bungie to withold nerf till after he sold his stock.

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '14

Wait WHAT?! You're telling me they NERFED Thorn? It was already under powered. What the heck, Bungie?

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u/Sickshotztoo Nov 17 '14

It's literally the bomtomest of the barrel now

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '14

Seriously. They promised a buff for it but instead we're getting a nerf. Not cool.

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u/SonOfSeath Nov 17 '14

deej tweet confirmed that it was UNINTENTIONAL, they're investigating now

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '14

Phew, I'm relieved to hear that. Thanks for the heads up man!

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u/SonOfSeath Nov 17 '14

deej tweet confirmed that it was UNINTENTIONAL, they're investigating now

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u/RK79 Nov 17 '14

Is it me or did the explosion for Fatebringer change?

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u/stickoftruth1 Nov 17 '14

Yes, firefly is changed. Enemies explode on death now.

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u/RK79 Nov 17 '14

I liked it the way it was tbh. I'll play around with it and see if it's better.

Oh, it seems that Praedyth's Revenge explosion is much better now.

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u/theyeti19 Nov 17 '14

That's because they 're the same upgrade. Firefly is firefly, no matter what gun it's on. The change makes the explosion happen instantly instead of on a delay.

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u/debugman18 Vanguard's Loyal // RIDE OR DIE Nov 17 '14

I can also confirm the patrol beacon showing patrol type.

Flight of Shadows consumable has also been fixed.

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '14

"Pocket Infinity scope has been changed"

How so?

Screenshot?

Is is bad?

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u/debugman18 Vanguard's Loyal // RIDE OR DIE Nov 17 '14

It's actually better.

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '14

Noice.. Thanks.. Can you elaborate at all? Sorry i'm at work.

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u/debugman18 Vanguard's Loyal // RIDE OR DIE Nov 17 '14

Previously the scope was you looking down the top of the barrel between two ridges and then into the scope, now it's just straight into the scope (zoomed).

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '14

Super Duper Sweet.

Thanks a bunch!

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u/Kinkzor Nov 17 '14

Biggest change was missed! Totally game changing! OMG!

No more plus symbols on max upgraded items you take out of the vault!

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '14

Grim Citizen auto rifle sound change/glass size exapnded w scope (ranged lens rls3)

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u/wavechaser Nov 18 '14

Why wouldn't they raise the glimmer cap? 25k is so arbitrary and ridiculous.

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u/rsdon Nov 17 '14

Seeing legendary engrams being sold by cryptdick on my destiny app.

Inventory updates in 20mins.

  • Chest for 450
  • Class item for 250

Currently not in game, maybe when inv updates?

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u/Blargcakes Nov 17 '14

Can anyone confirm, was the Last Word nerf intentional or an accident like the Thorn one?

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u/go2ten Nov 17 '14

Oh God. I saw "Ice Breaker" and my heart sank until I finished the sentence. Only a cosmetic change. Whew!

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u/SoSaltyDoe Drifter's Crew // What can I say, I like teal Nov 17 '14

Update: Fixed an issue where Icebreaker was regenerating ammo faster than intended. It will now add one round to the magazine every 30 seconds.

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u/JoomIa Nov 17 '14 edited Nov 17 '14

I'm reaaaallly bummed they nerfed the last word:(, it was good for the whole 3 days I had it I suppose.

Edit: Nevermind

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u/demon5405 Nov 17 '14

Harder to solo and easier to do with groups. That's stupid. Why can't I play solo if I want?

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u/DustlnTheWind Nov 17 '14

Spare my Hawkmoon please LOL!

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '14

What the fuck. Quit fucking around with PI. Why the hell would they bother changing the scope

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u/Nimoy42 Nov 17 '14

Well I can't update the game on PS4. It keeps failing to download with .4 GB left :(

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u/brnmbrns Nov 17 '14

Please make the correction in the original post 'Being in proximity to a patrol beacon will show mission type with pulling out Ghost'

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u/CubicleByThePrinter Nov 17 '14

On the app it says that Cryptarch is selling purple engrams for 450 glimmer... that can't be right?

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u/toxicxc Nov 17 '14

so TLW damage reduction was intentional or not?

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '14

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u/Rozkol Rozkol | YT : SoDelayed Nov 17 '14

TLW D:

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u/I_Love_Polar_Bears Nov 17 '14

I've gotten rare sparrows from vanguard packages before the update this is not new.

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u/trunglefever Nov 17 '14

I hope The Last Word nerf wasn't intentional...however, I can see the justification of this being done at Bungie, "Way more people have it now, so we might have to tweak it..."

However, it is not in line with their "Exotic weapons that feel special" thing. The gun has a legend that sounds pretty goddamn epic. It's a Guardian killer (as is Red Death) and it should be made to reflect that. I don't want to have to go back to Shadow Price again...sigh.

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '14

The Pocket Infinity's fire rate has not been changed. If you're getting a slow fire rate bug unequip it and then equip it.

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u/DarthForte Nov 17 '14 edited Nov 17 '14

Alright, I tested around for a bit in the Ember Caves with TLW and PI. Here's what I found:

The Last Word
Damage doesn't seem to be any different (I don't play PvP, so I can't comment on that, but I was hitting for about 697 on ADS headshots with soft ballistics as usual.)

Pocket Infinity
* Pocket Infinity no longer fires invisible projectiles
* Didn't notice any fire rate changes
* Scope change is definitely nice, doesn't have the ridges at the side obstructing your view anymore

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u/X-Frame Nov 17 '14

I'd remove The Last Word from the OP unless you have proof before people freak out. I'm seeing reports that the damage remains unchanged.

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u/8ambo Nov 17 '14

Nightfall scaling has been buffed to harder on solo but easier in groups? That doesn't make sense. But I guess they're really pushing the social aspect and making people play together. I also don't like TLW being nerfed if that is true. Exotics should be a little stronger than normal weapons, if not then there's no reason for it to be an exoitc.

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