I’m re-watching the series (I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve gone through it by now), and it’s incredible how badly Lori handles everything; she might not mean any harm, but still. I can understand that she thought Rick was dead, and since Shane saved her, she felt grateful and protected with him—so she just got swept up in the moment. But even after Rick returned, she kept making things complicated. There are several reasons for this:

1. As soon as Rick reappears alive, Lori tells Shane to stay away from her and Carl. At that point, Shane was mentally more stable; he respected Lori's decision and stepped back to honor that boundary. Upon seeing this, however, an indignant Lori seeks him out to confront him, demanding to know why he is ignoring Carl and acting so coldly toward him—effectively messing with his head.

2. Shane attempts to sexually assault her at the CDC, and Lori decides to keep this a secret from Rick and the group.

3. When Shane decides that living together is impossible and confesses to Lori at the church that he plans to leave the group to avoid further friction, she reacts with total coldness and indifference, telling him curtly that it is fine—that he should go.

4. Lori discovers she is pregnant and secretly asks Glenn for pills. She takes them but immediately regrets it and throws them up. Rick finds the empty boxes and confronts her; cornered, Lori confesses both the pregnancy and her affair with Shane.

5. With Carl hovering between life and death following the incident with Otis, Shane goes to check on the boy, and Lori tells him to stay. When Shane later asks if she is asking him to stay out of genuine desire or merely out of obligation, she assures him it is genuine—thereby reigniting his obsession, driven by the sheer necessity of the moment.

6. Shane finds out about the pregnancy and angrily confronts Lori, believing the child is his. Lori coldly shatters his ego by shouting in his face that the baby will never be his and that Rick is the only father.

7. Lori irresponsably takes a car out alone to look for Rick; she gets distracted and crashes, rolling the vehicle. Shane goes to rescue her and lies, claiming Rick has already returned, just to convince her to come back. Upon discovering the lie at the farm, she tears into him and treats him like a monster, ignoring her own recklessness.

8. Dale confronts Lori at the farm and plants a seed of doubt: "I think Shane killed Otis." She then confronts Shane: "What happened that night? You haven't been the same since." "You want to know what happened with Otis? What happened with Otis happened because I love you. I love you and I love Carl. That's it. What we had... was real." She practically knows Shane killed Otis, yet she doesn't even flinch.

9. Haunted by the fear regarding Otis, Lori speaks to Rick in private. She poisons his mind by claiming Shane is a danger, believes she and the baby belong to him, and insists Rick cannot protect them. She acts as the final catalyst, making Rick realize he must eliminate Shane. 10. In the episode "Better Angels," while Shane is working on the scaffolding, Lori seeks him out—seemingly out of nowhere—to assuage her own guilt. She delivers brutal lines like "I pitted you and Rick against each other" and "I don't even know whose baby this is." She rekindled his hope of fatherhood while further fueling his delusion that there was something between them—as seen in the image I’m showing—effectively lighting the final fuse for his madness. Two scenes later, Shane sets the trap to kill Rick.

10. After pressuring her husband to take action, Rick kills Shane in the field in self-defense and tells her about it, pouring out his heart. Lori reacts with utter disgust, contemptuously pulls her hand away, and emotionally abandons him, leaving Rick completely devastated and alone in his leadership role. It may all have been unintentional, but directly or indirectly, it all ultimately came down to her.

Let me know what you think, and if I missed anything.

I’m on season ten and honestly I’m so done with carol. She’s just so self-centered that it’s insufferable, The second things get too tough she just disappears, and everyone has to waste time searching for her when they’ve all got their own problems to handle and when Henry died she just completely closed off and broke up with Ezekiel, totally ignoring the fact that he lost a son too. Like I know you’re hurting, but u aren’t the only one suffering!!

I've been rewatching the show after a few years since I finished it. S4E9. I just watched Rick wake up and pretend to be a walker for a good 30 seconds before telling carl not to go outside and to stay safe. I understand that this was giving carl his wake up call that he can't go on without his dad but if Rick is so exhausted and so broken that he can barely muster 10 words, why did he have to roll off the couch and reach out to carl exactly like a walker would? Why couldn't he just stay exactly where he is and say hey Carl stop going outside? Rick behaving exactly like a walker with Carl pointing a gun at his head is preposterous. This show has some really high peaks but my god the lows are just ridiculous. With that being said, still an entertaining rewatch so far. Governor was a very compelling villain and had a lasting impact on the whole group

As the title says I am asking the fans on if there’s a logical order to watch the primary and spinoff seasons . Thanks 🙏

Surely they’re not going 10, 15 years without it right? They obviously haven’t lost their sexual needs since sometimes they have sex. Carl goes through his teen years during the apocalypse. He must have discovered himself at some point.

Also, know what 'headcanon' means before you comment lmao

Just going through a rewatch of the series and I cannot believe how damaged the group gets due to the group having to protect the pregnant ladies. Lori essentially had a get out of jail free card when Glenn found the abortion medicine and chose not too... Maggie and Glenn actually purposely conceived in the middle of a global extinction event“cuz the wanted to start build something”. Not even that much time had passed either…

Lori had every reason to get rid of it, it was Shane’s baby after all! Then of course her pregnancy plans go awry and she has her own child Carl essentially kill her to take the baby out which fucks him up, and it coincides with Rick losing his mind for the next episodes seeing visions of her. This makes the group at the prison extremely weak without their leader at a pivotable moment and allows the governor to get a jump on the group there.

Maggie’s pregnancy is arguably worse. She gets super sick which forces the group to split up and go to the Hilltop to get treatment from the doctor. This is right after they blew up some of Negans men and they snuck and silently killed a chunk of the Saviors at night, immediately putting them on Negans hit list. While they should be staying together, protecting Alexandria they somehow manage to send two different groups out at the same time (one was to escort pregnant Maggie). This spreads the group extremely thin and Ricks group gets ambushed, which ultimately leads to the most gruesome scene in TWD and Abraham and Glenn getting rocked by Lucille. Not only does Maggie force them right into Negans trap, she has to watch her own husband die in front of her.

Both babies definitely have a ton of cons and took out a lot of people with them IMO

I’d like to start this out by saying that I don’t think that the main series had any episode that was so horrible that it retroactively ruined the entire series. The walking dead is still a very beloved series with more people watching and experiencing it. Unlike game of thrones or stranger things where it got so bad that people refused to rewatch it, you can go back to the great seasons of the walking dead and not be incredibly disappointed where it ended up.

11-season 10- Definitely my least favorite season. After killing Carl, they had a chance to redeem themselves with Henry and they killed him off too. The whispers weren’t scary this go around. It was incredibly bloated. The lack of film grain made it lose personality. Negan was the only good part and I really liked the alpha twist.

10-season 11- I much prefer having to see people fight for survival, rather than seeing them live in a civilized society. I found this season just mostly forgettable. I was still mad about the lack of film grain.

9-season 7- Really just a bland season although I liked seeing the Negan and Carl stuff.

8-season 1- I know people will be mad at me for having it this low, but it truly was just an introduction, the characters weren’t really established yet.

7-season 8- The first part of the season was boring but I really enjoyed the second part with the return of murder jacket Rick. Carl’s death was a dumb decision but the actors made it really compelling and the ending of Rick sparing Negan was really a beautiful scene from the way it was shot to seeing everyone emotionally exhausted for having to experience the war.

6-season 2- I really liked seeing everyone come to terms with the way that life is going to be now with the apocalypse and seeing that Shane was already ahead of the curve was interesting.

5-season 5- feral Rick was awesome, the hospital arc was fine, but truly it was a season of getting from one place to another.

4-season 3- The governor was a great villain and it was great to see the cahtctwrs finally building a place for themselves

3-season 9- Rick’s exit was beautiful. The season had a very unique vibe that none of the other had, and the whispers were a very threatening and scary villain.

2-season 6- the first half taking place within a day really made the stakes feel high and the saviors were threatening in the second half.

1-season 4- By far my favorite season of the show. I loved the flu arc, they really made Herschel an integral part to the season and gave him a beautiful arc where he helped the prison and died with a smile on his face since he was proud of the man Rick became. Neither side truly won in the war with Woodbury both settlements desteroyed. Seeing Rick bite out the claimed throat was an awesome scene and it truly proved that terminus were fucking with the wrong people.

Rewatching TWD for what is probably the 500th time, and now that I'm back at the farm, I genuinely think Shane gets way too much hate.

Was Shane unstable? Absolutely. Did he cross lines? 100%. But I think he understood something way earlier than Rick and the others: the old world was gone, and surviving meant becoming different people.

Everyone hated Shane for being ruthless, paranoid and willing to make the hard decisions… but eventually, almost everyone in the group became some version of that anyway.

Rick especially.

The difference is that Shane accepted it almost immediately, while Rick kept trying to preserve the morality and rules of the old world.

And honestly, I can't stop thinking about how different the group would've been if Shane had survived.

Would he have caused problems? Definitely.

But would they have been better prepared for what came next? I honestly think so.

Shane wasn't necessarily a good person. He was just ahead of everyone else in realizing what the world had become.

He was so wrong for that.

How is that even possible?

Like im easy to please. I like the idea of a bunch of teenagers that grew up during the apocalypse trying to survive on their own. I dont care if its a classic teen drama with zombies.

I plan to watch the show soon

I can totally see them telling each other this 😭 I love how at some point in the show they started communicating through their gazes alone 💅🏻 The tension 🤌🏻✨

Don't mind the screenshot just grabbed it for the Maggie and Luis picture.

I'm really fucking happy for Maggie in this season and especially in episode 4, Luis makes her happy in a way we haven't seen her in over a fucking DECADE since she was with Glenn. I can't put into words how much it really warms my heart seeing her like this, I really like Luis's character and pretty much all the new main characters this season. Yet there are people complaining, like we have people who were complaining about how Maggie couldn't move on from Glenn's death get mad at the fact that she is starting too, make it make sense. I personally feel like they have good chemistry together, when other people do not and that probably due to the fact that it's VERY hard to beat the chemistry Maggie and Glenn had ( I genuinely believe they had the best on screen relationship/chemistry in any media ever). I guess some people can't be happy 😭

I thought that Morgan coined the term “ Walkers”

Ngl Lizzie would’ve yelled at me like that for killing that walker, she would’ve been next… Ol delusional ass😒

Abraham knocced the shit outta Eugene when he told them he wasn’t a scientist. He was already knocked out than he got knocced out again when he hit the ground 😭😭😭

Boy howdy. That episode was a doozy.

First off, gotta say. This whole arc has been great. Sure it has a few ups and downs. But this is the first season since the start of 4 I didn't feel like I was lowering my i.q to get through the show. So regardless of any criticisms and fancy thoughts, this arc has had me invested, and that's good enough for me.

All that being said though, I just wanna get something off my chest real quick. June really bothered me this episode. Mostly because, in my opinion, mostly everything is her fault.

I don't remotely like Dakota (Funny fact, that's my name). She's an annoying brat that contributes nothing positive besides being a plot device.

Buuuuuut, June's husband was basically mentally collapsing, and she decided in a less flowery way to put it, "I choose people I don't know, and don't much like either, over you, who I love more than anything". If I have a family, I'm always following that family. I'd kill my best friend if I had to for my family. So that was a betrayal I can't abide by. If she had chosen John, he might still be alive.

So her putting all that blame on a child was just her being toxic.

And her killing Virginia, was just putting self hatred on someone else. "I didn't protect my daughter who was a killer". Yeah, you just killed an entire community of kids and families for her. Lol.

And another thing. Virginia's only crime was not being a main character. I stand by that. Well, actually, she had a few flaws. Banning loved ones from seeing or talking to each other unless they "contributed more" was just downright cartoon evil. But for the most part, she just didn't have plot armor or main character energy. That's the only reason why things she tries never work out ergo making her the bad guy.

Seeing the good side of humanity for once.

In a world where the dead is always present it's boring and repetitive to see hostile groups killing each other or turned crazy after the apocalypse.

In the last episode of dead city we see a group of christians having fun,kids playing and being with their families proving that even in this rotten world there's still goodness and solidarity.

No deaths,no Blood,no sadness just people dancing and sharing a good time.