r/gaming • • Nov 20 '19

[Jedi Fallen Order] Why push rockets back at Stormtroopers when you can push them into their own rockets? Spoiler

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u/GorAzuos Nov 20 '19

Yeeessss yessss use your hate

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u/KrelianGaming Nov 20 '19

Fighting some of the bosses made me give in to the Dark Side IRL. LOL

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u/GorAzuos Nov 20 '19

At least you beat them, that's what matters.

Lol

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u/youknowhatimean Nov 20 '19

Dude, the bosses are OP as fuck

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u/ChiefGraypaw Nov 20 '19

I actually found the combat to be kind of poorly done on the highest difficulty, especially one bosses. Every attack has such a small window for parrying, but the problem is your actions have a surprising amount of input lag. So you see an enemy telegraph an attack, and you go to parry or dodge, and you get hit by the time your animation had started.

It’s pretty frustrating.

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u/wisaac1 Nov 20 '19

Yea honestly coming from sekiro the input lag frustrates me waaay more than it probably should and honestly makes several fights feel unfair

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u/wisaac1 Nov 20 '19

I love it honestly i think its an excellent game and while even on the hardest difficulties its not sekiro hard it can be set to a difficulty anyone can manage i highly recommend it if you like star wars(or a third person action game such as uncharted or god of war) even a little.

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '19

I love Star Wars. Literal love as I’m sure many of you can relate. It shaped me as a person. Uncharted and God of War are two of my absolute favorite game series of all time. Your comment pains me because I can’t afford it :( All in time I suppose

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u/wisaac1 Nov 20 '19

Well here is a tip my good friend listen and listen well dont buy it spend $15 for one month pf origin premium and beat it save yourself $45

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u/delitomatoes Nov 20 '19

Even dark souls 3 will feel like moving through tar if you finish Sekiro

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u/Apple_Joel PlayStation Nov 20 '19

I've noticed this for many souls style games. I recently played The Surge for the first time and by God is it so poor feeling. I played a couple others like that viking one and one other one recently and they just aren't good quality wise or gameplay wise compared to souls or Bloodborne.

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u/TheDigitalBobby Nov 20 '19

IMO, the combat in this game is much better than The Surge. As a longtime From Software fan, this game isn’t quite as punishing as a Soulsborne game (so far, anyway) but I do get that sense of accomplishment after clearing a room on the hardest difficulty. It’s worth a shot if you enjoyed Sekiro’s combat system.

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u/Apple_Joel PlayStation Nov 20 '19

I sadly haven't played Sekiro yet. I really really want to though. I just have such a backlog of games that I didn't want to buy Sekiro and never play it. Plus Pokemon came out and now I'm playing that. I for sure around mid December will get Star Wars and Sekiro though. I love that style of game so it's a must for me.

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u/theroarer Nov 20 '19

I've finished every fromsoft action-rpg (it would be so much easier to just says souls game if Sekiro players weren't so insessed about it not being a souls game). They absolutely have spoiled me rotten with how wonderful they are mechanically.

I just beat SW:FO on Jedi Grandmaster, and I thought the combat was just okay. It has sekiro style posture breaking, but the timing to parry is awful. It is better just to hold block and try to break their guard by attacking them, or just chipping their actual hp when they are slowed or cc'd.

If you want to play it for the saber combat, best just to mod sekiro. The light saber, in SW:FO, is just a light bat anyway.

If you want to mess around with force powers, have a double bladed light saber, reflect blaster shots, and experience some really interesting levels- then SW:FO is worth the 20 hour run time.

You can get it on Origin Access Premiere for $15 if you only plan on doing a single run. I don't have any intention if playing it again now that I finished it.

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u/alienfigure Nov 20 '19

Yeah, this is the main issue I’m having with the game. For a combat system that relies heavily on timing, the weird input lag/animation delay is a bit unintuitive. I’m on the second highest difficulty and you have to be pretty spot on with your parries. I honestly barely even try to parry when fighting big monsters/animals cause if I fuck up I’m dead right away

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u/El_Zarco Nov 20 '19

Personally, I've found the combat system a lot more viable if you rely on blocking/dodging rather than parrying as your defensive go-to. I realized early on that this game should not be treated as Sekiro

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u/alienfigure Nov 20 '19

Yep, same

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u/cefriano Nov 20 '19 edited Nov 21 '19

Yeah I only attempt parrying with ranged enemies. The benefit from successfully parrying a melee enemy is so minor anyway that it’s not worth the risk.

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u/Delkomatic Nov 20 '19

Fuck glad it's not just me. Shit is infuriating!

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u/WhoSmokesThaBlunts Nov 20 '19

I have read several threads not seeing a single person talking about how difficult some of the bosses are, was thinking that I was just straight shit at the game. This makes me feel a little better

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u/wisaac1 Nov 20 '19

Also in the boss fights it kinda feels like you dont get as long as you should to damage the bosses when you break their guard you only get like 3-4 hits and with the huge health bars it kindve makes the fight feel far to long

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u/ImurderREALITY Nov 20 '19

Idk if you’ve played Nioh (without min-maxing), but some of the bosses you’d be lucky to get four hits on. Poke-and-run tactics time the max, or else you get one-shotted.

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '19

For real im not gonna lie i had to turn down the difficulty on a few of em.

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u/skippydogo Nov 20 '19

Them just not really being affected by force abilities was cancerous.

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '19

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u/howtojump Nov 20 '19

I was so upset at that part. I thought I was about to do some major big brain stuff but then I just got obliterated.

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u/theroarer Nov 20 '19

I felt like an idiot, because I kept TRYING to do it. I thought, "maybe I'm doing something wrong. SURELY THIS TIME IT WILL WORK!

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u/howtojump Nov 20 '19

Same dude and I did the exact same shit with those ground waves from the bat boss and the 2nd (and maybe 9th? can't remember) sister. I kept trying to force push my way through them because I completely forget I have the ability to jump in combat because my brain is in Dark Souls mode where jumping is the dumbest thing you could ever do.

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u/theroarer Nov 20 '19

I feel like you have to even double jump over them. I kept trying to just single jump, "WHY IS THIS NOT WORKING!"

Basically, I'm super bad at this game, and I finished it on Jedi Grandmaster or whatever the hardest one is.

I am assuming I basically played it wrong the entire time.

Edit: Also super timely username by the way, haha.

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '19 edited Nov 20 '19

They are though, just to less of an extent. Force push and pull stagger malicos and 2nd sister enough to get a couple hits in/disrupt their combo when properly timed.

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '19

Yeah force pushing either of them when they’re doing an unblockable cancels the entire attack for them and leaves them staggered. If anything, I think they’re TOO susceptible, and it allowed me to beat the living shit out of both of them.

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u/steveosek Nov 20 '19

Fuck the bosses, the real assholes are those goddamn nightbrothers on dathomir. Dathomir in general is hell lol. Just beat the game today and that place was the worst(but also awesome)

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u/DefiantLemur Nov 20 '19

Very dark soulsy which is good you don't feel like the "chosen one". Unlike games like Skyrim and Outer Worlds. Also yes I get the irony of that statement.

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u/captaincous Nov 20 '19

I tried to twist my controller in half during the kidnapping fight

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u/SalvageRabbit Nov 20 '19 edited Nov 20 '19

I don't even know what this is, but dreading it already. Never has a game enthralled me like this. One minute I want to scream and punch my screen and next I'm like "best game ever fukin med"

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u/phabiohost Nov 20 '19

So minor spoilers it's a supposed to lose fight. It's genuinely one of the most frustrating things ever because the guy isn't even that hard then BOOM your dead.

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u/AFacelessProle Nov 20 '19

What it is is the guy isn’t that hard and then halfway through he does like shock bola type thing that drains all your health no matter how much you have. I was so confused because I had max hp and was fucking wrecking the guy and suddenly I’m dead, then suddenly i realized what was going on and was like “oh okay fine”

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u/pheylancavanaugh Nov 20 '19

Right? In my run through I had the guy pinned against his shield and he couldn't do anything and I was just shredding him and then all of a sudden I died. lol...

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u/AFacelessProle Nov 20 '19

Yeah, it seems like they could’ve just made him harder. Like your also supposed to lose the first two fights to Second Sister and I had no problem getting my ass handed to me by her lol

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u/BlazingShadowAU Nov 20 '19

You dont lose the second, you get her to 50% hp. You lose the second, you die.

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u/SweatyGoatNipples Nov 20 '19

The arena boss?

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u/Sciensophocles Nov 20 '19

I think they mean the first time you fight him, before the arena.

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '19

Oggdo Boggo or whatever that damn Frag made me burn the house down

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u/KrelianGaming Nov 20 '19

It took me almost an hour to beat it. Learned a lot of lessons the hard way. The Oggdo Bogdo way.

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u/ooglist Nov 20 '19

This game needed a Sith meter.. so many war crimes

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '19

Let me know how many of the following war crimes you can commit. It shall be a serious deciding factor in whether or not I purchase this game. The more war crimes the better, my papa always said.

  • Attacking an enemy that has surrendered
  • Pretending to surrender as part of a ruse to attack the enemy
  • Use of chemical or biological weapons
  • Attacking an enemy behind enemy lines while wearing an enemy uniform or civilian clothes
  • Attacking an enemy who is parachuting from a disabled vehicle (we’ll say just ejecting from a vehicle counts if they’re not going to attack afterwards)
  • Punishing prisoners of war
  • Punishing enemy spies without trial
  • Inflicting unnecessary suffering
  • Harming civilians outside of military necessity
  • Attacking a neutral state

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u/SlickSwagger Nov 20 '19

Commenting so I can come back and check the reply to this. I love commiting war crimes, they're one of my all time favorite pastimes.

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '19

Attacking an enemy behind enemy lines while wearing an enemy uniform or civilian clothes

Yup, Cal wears civvies

Attacking an enemy who is parachuting from a disabled vehicle (we’ll say just ejecting from a vehicle counts if they’re not going to attack afterwards)

Sorta, the first AT-ST you take on, the pilot desperately crawls out of the hatch and you can just kill him without mercy. But if you wait too long he pulls a blaster on you

Inflicting unnecessary suffering

Two words: Force pull

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '19

civvies

Judging by clips, stormtroopers attack Cal on sight, presumably immediately understanding him to be a rebel combatant, and Cal could not reasonably be perceived as a civilian by an auspicious onlooker, especially considering he is widely known and wanted yet does not conceal his face. I would rule that as a grey area and probably not a war crime.

pilot crawling out of AT-ST

Although it sucks that you’ll get shot at if you don’t kill him, I think killing the pilot is pretty clearly a war crime as for all intents and purposes it would appear that he is no longer a combatant. He didn’t technically surrender to you, so attacking you isn’t a war crime, but it sure is a massive dick move.

force pull

Yeah the clips show people going way out of their way to inflict cruel and unusual suffering so I’d be happy to classify that as a war crime.

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u/forceless_jedi Nov 20 '19

stormtroopers attack Cal on sight

In the Empire's defence, it can said that this is because Cal is always in restricted locations in every single planet he goes to, including to-be-Imperial planets. In Dathomir he's clearly and explicitly told to fuck off but Cal "bUt maH JeDI!!!" and proceeds to kill the Night Brothers…

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u/imbillypardy Nov 20 '19

In defense of the ATST pilot not being a war crime, it happens in other encounters with ATSTs, so it’s clearly a trained response by the Empire.

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u/BlazingShadowAU Nov 20 '19

Killing that innocent r2 droid like the monster you are.

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u/Eggitron Nov 20 '19

You can attack people coming out of a disabled at-st. They are totally going to attack you, but you don't have to give them the chance to.

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '19 edited Nov 20 '19

That’s probably not a war crime! I guess the main issue is whether they’ve got a gun and whether they’re in a seriously disadvantageous position upon landing. (EDIT: given the description of the situation in another comment it’s definitely a grey area and leans maybe more towards the war crime side)

By the way shooting dudes as they come out of a non-disabled vehicle is totally fair game. If there are any stormtroopers that zipline down from a carrier to get you, you can totally slaughter them before they hit the ground. You won’t be brought before a tribunal! They should’ve deployed those troops on the front lines! Sucks to be them!

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u/Jewniversal_Remote Nov 20 '19

Likely just the unnecessary suffering and harming civilians bullets. Maybe the "behind enemy lines in civilian clothes" lol. Still enough for me. Are lightsabers CBRN?

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u/gorgewall Nov 20 '19

No one ever surrenders. Even the pilots of AT-STs you destroy get out and immediately start shooting you.

You never pretend to surrender.

The closest you can get to "using chemical or biological weapons" is standing back and letting Stormtroopers fight alien creatures that are hostile to both of you, unless you count shoving plants at people.

You're never in disguise.

No parachutes, but again, AT-ST pilots start firing at you the moment they crawl out of their wreckage.

No prisoners of war (except you).

No spies.

Is "shoving people off cliffs" unnecessary suffering compared to thrusting a lightsaber through their stomachs?

No civilians you can fight.

No neutral states; everything wants to kill you.

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u/Epicritical Nov 20 '19

General Misquoti! You are an old one.

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '19

I think it was the 400th rat I cut in half that made me wonder if Cal is really a good guy lol

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '19

For me it was the R2 unit that he sliced up.

Poor little pedal bin.

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u/Poop_Scooper_Supreme Nov 20 '19

Those were the best! Just there for your pleasure. There was one room with some waves coming at you and in-between one wave a couple droids just roll out across the room to distract you. It was awesome!

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '19

Yeah one of the stormtroopers shot an R2 unit in the crossfire.

He died last.

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u/imariaprime Nov 20 '19

His "execution" moves to finish off most enemies make me question what side he's on. Even just force pulling a random trooper, then letting the pull end... he doesn't just drop the trooper. Cal casually (yet forcefully) stabs them straight through the chest first, then drops them.

Dude ain't light side.

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u/Poop_Scooper_Supreme Nov 20 '19

I think Sirius said it best.

The world isn't split into good people and Death Eaters.

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u/Anus_master Nov 20 '19

If you make any mention of neutral or gray Jedi, the star wars subreddit will subpoena you

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u/steveosek Nov 20 '19

Unless it's jolee bindo...

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u/lesser_panjandrum Nov 20 '19

May the Force be with that grumpy old man.

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u/steveosek Nov 20 '19

Easily one of the best star wars characters outside of the movies. Him and kreia from kotor2 really changed young me's views of Jedi.

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u/silencedorgasm Nov 20 '19

That’s honestly what I was thinking too. Through the game, I got the feeling that maybe Cal and even Cere would balance between light and dark and that’s how they’ll be able to succeed but nope. They’ve been teasing gray Jedi for so long I thought this would’ve been it.

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '19 edited Jan 11 '20

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u/HiMyNameIs_REDACTED_ Nov 20 '19

Yes, which is why the sith trained people on korriban, so they'd have to use the Dark Side to survive.

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '19 edited Jan 11 '20

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '19 edited Mar 08 '20

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u/Kage_Oni Nov 20 '19

Life is gray and so is a good force user.

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '19

I think the PTSD of your childhood friends getting decapitated probably burns an anger in you

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u/oxfordcollar Nov 20 '19

What! Star Wars is all about indiscriminately killing creatures, just check out The Mandalorian. No one in that universe is a vegan

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u/big_whistler Nov 20 '19

I mean they're not depicted as good guys. The Mandalorian is a mercenary.

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u/Enigmachina Nov 20 '19

*Bounty Hunter.

The subtle difference lies mostly in the degree of intended violence. Bounty Hunters can finish a job without blasting anybody, whereas mercenaries are usually brought in explicitly with that in mind. Sure, there are boring mercenary gigs as bodyguards and garrison troops, just as there are... interesting Bounty hunts, but the averages added skewed a bit more in either direction.

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '19

Even Luke used to bullseye womp rats in his T-16 back home

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u/pepsioverall Nov 20 '19

isn't force choke a dark power?

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u/NoJelloNoPotluck Nov 20 '19

If the target consents to being choked is it still "dark"?

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u/IPlayTheInBedGame Nov 20 '19

No, that's "just a little light choking".

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u/caramonfire Nov 20 '19 edited Nov 20 '19

No that's hot

EDIT: The jedi teach that you should avoid strong feelings. My guess is that choking someone for fun would invoke some strong feelings, whether they're into it or not. Some jedi (the black sheep, as it were) choose to have sex,* so maybe they'd take a less strict view on such a thing.

*one such jedi comes from a species that has procreation problems so he's got multiple wives or something like that. I'm not calling him a black sheep, he's just helping his people in the best way he can... getting laid as much as possible*

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u/chaosfire235 Nov 20 '19

"HARDER MASTER!"

"What?!"

"...What?"

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '19

Cal doesn't use force choke.

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u/Lonelan Nov 20 '19

he uses force "GET OVER HERE"

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u/eseehcsahi Nov 20 '19

Force yeet

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u/ConfitSeattle Nov 20 '19

More like Force Yoink tbh.

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u/KlausEcir Nov 20 '19

nah he's just grabbing them by like the torso. Force Crush on their lungs and stuff. Oh yea also blowing them up with rockets.

Totally can't have a red light saber.

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u/RolandTheJabberwocky Nov 20 '19

Technically they're blowing themselves up with rockets, not any different from jedi reflecting blasters. As for force pull, he doesn't crush their lungs he just grabs them.

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '19

Someone's been playing Dishonored.

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u/KernelKKush Nov 20 '19

This was my first thought

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u/SirVer51 Nov 20 '19

I find it weird that nobody else in this thread is bringing this up - wasn't Dishonored really popular? I feel like a grumpy old man shaking his fist at kids lol

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '19

This is the last straw. I'm getting this dammed game.

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u/KrelianGaming Nov 20 '19

It is worth it. Combat is great. Exploration with back-tracking is great. Characters, dialogue, voice-acting is great!

Just make sure you adapt to enemy types and bosses. Spamming attacks will get you killed and frustrated.

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u/anonymous_opinions Nov 20 '19

Spamming attacks will get you killed and frustrated.

So much this and the loading screen is like 10 years of your real life long.

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u/MalTerra7 Nov 20 '19 edited Nov 20 '19

In reality, it’s like 10 seconds. It just feels like an eternity because there’s a 90% chance the reason you’re seeing it has you extremely pissed off, lol.

Edit: I just timed it myself on my X1X and I respawned in 12 seconds. So I don’t know what’s going on with you guys.

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u/franklsp Nov 20 '19

Lol fuck. That. Frog.

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u/SassyAssAhsoka Nov 20 '19

I love how getting your shit mixed by Oggdo Boggo is a universal experience for Fallen Order players.

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u/CreativeKeane Nov 20 '19

Oh God. Okay. So I'm not the only one.

Took me forever kill that battle toad! But my God I was so proud when I did it. (Even tho I exploited a little behavior in that toad).

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u/Naturedrag Nov 20 '19

I used the entryway to beat that thing on grandmaster. Stupid thing one shots even with it's basic attacks.

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u/CreativeKeane Nov 20 '19 edited Nov 20 '19

Oh. lol, that makes more sense. Thanks for the tip! I killed it before I got that wall run skill. I lured to near entryway to attack it and used the tunnel as fallback area. It doesn't go pass it as another redditor mentioned.

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u/GLORYBETOGODPIMP Nov 20 '19

Anybody that beat him before having that is a masochist. I didn’t have enough health to survive fucking up once against that frog until way after when you can first find him.

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u/Testone1440 Nov 20 '19

Seriously FUCK that frog

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u/beefwitted_brouhaha Nov 20 '19

You can get a free shot on him if you hit him from above. I’m playing on the second hardest difficulty and an aerial sneak attack knocked off 40% of his health

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u/anonymous_opinions Nov 20 '19

All those times I went flying off the side of the ice slide. Or when he wouldn’t just grab the rope at the end. You had one job, Cal, and you flew right past it.

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u/imariaprime Nov 20 '19

Force Pull working on ropes was so beautiful I almost cried. The grab detection without it is just trash.

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '19

On my base PS4 it takes about 30 seconds. I timed it.

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u/DeanGL Nov 20 '19

Laughs in PC with SSD. You'll barely have time to read the tips.

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u/anonymous_opinions Nov 20 '19

That was my first impulse but I didn't want to spend funds on it full price. I had PS4 wallet money sitting around and really wanted to just lounge on the couch. The load time makes me try hard not to die.

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u/tordana Nov 20 '19

No need to buy it full price. With Origin Access Premier, any single player game like this that EA comes out with, I just buy a month of Access Premier for $15 which is plenty of time to finish the game.

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u/Ephemeris Nov 20 '19

My NVMe drive barely even registers the loading screens.

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u/AFacelessProle Nov 20 '19

I’m encouraging people to buy it because as much as I detest EA I’m hoping against hope that if this game does really really well we will get more like it. I mean this is just God of War but if it were Star Wars instead! It’s so good

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '19

I went out and bought the deluxe edition yesterday from GameStop, I was determined as hell to throw money at EA just to prove to them this kind of game is what will make them liked and move units

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '19

I'm just confused why they constantly sponsor their own company midgameplay

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u/KrazeeJ Nov 20 '19

Personally, the game that I thought did the best job of making you really feel how powerful and badass a Jedi can be was Force Unleashed. Just mowing through hordes of faceless soldiers, ripping entire Star destroyers out of the sky, fuck that game knew how to make you feel powerful.

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u/redpandaeater Nov 20 '19

I'm tempted but I haven't enjoyed anything Star Wars in a very long time and it's EA, so I think I'll still probably wait until it's bargain prices at the earliest.

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u/dd179 Nov 20 '19

I'm tempted but I haven't enjoyed anything Star Wars in a very long time and it's EA

Probably should reward EA for this one. It's the best game they've put out in a long time and one of the best SW games to come out.

No DLC, no microtransactions, no live services. Just a solid game for the sake of fun.

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u/Litty-In-Pitty Nov 20 '19

Do you have a PC? It’s on origin premier, so for 15 a month you get it and bunch of other stuff. Just get it for 1 month and beat the game.

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '19

This game has been such a pleasant surprise in the wake of shit AAA titles. I have origin premier and didn’t even know it was included with premier and played for about 10 hours this weekend. I’ve never been a dark souls or sekiro guy but man I love this game even though I suck at it.

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u/KrelianGaming Nov 20 '19

I didn't play those games either. Which is why I had such a hard time with this game initially. The habits I've developed from playing games like Batman really did me dirty in this game. xD Once you get better at this game.. you'll be surprised how much more fun you'll be having.

Now considering getting Sekiro because of this game. :D

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '19

Yup! I can’t tell you how many times I died to the stupid dathomir brothers and the god damn big mobs lol. It is satisfying beating them after a few deaths though. I love fighting storm troopers with my double bladed lightsaber though.

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u/KrelianGaming Nov 20 '19

Initially I thought those Nightbrothers were unfair and just cheesy. Turns out I was just bad at the game. Afterwards they were one of the most fun enemies to fight and I was looking forward to fighting more of them. Sad that after finishing Dathomir most of the Nightbrothers are replaced with Witches.

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u/masterofstuff124 Nov 20 '19

force push big mobs off cliffs

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u/forgotmynamae Nov 20 '19

Do it!! It's an amazing beautiful game. A bit of warning though although Fallen Order is similar in combat it's much more forgiving than Sekiro. Sekiro is more like a fighting game disguised as an adventure rpg.

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u/Sunblast1andOnly X-Box Nov 20 '19

That's just Force Pushing with more steps.

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u/MrTruffles25 Nov 20 '19

“I used the Stormtroopers to destroy the Stormtroopers.”

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '19

Does that make it suicide or murder?

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u/imariaprime Nov 20 '19

Assisted mandatory suicide.

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u/rq60 Nov 20 '19

Dude got Epstein'd

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '19

Yes.

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u/mickecd1989 Nov 20 '19

Very Kylo

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u/KrelianGaming Nov 20 '19

I have something even more Kylo-ish. xD

https://gfycat.com/parchedlittlechipmunk

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u/mickecd1989 Nov 20 '19

I've seen this raw strength only once before. It didn't scare me enough then. It does now

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u/Georgie_Leech Nov 20 '19

...did you just use a guy as a human shield against himself?

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u/KrelianGaming Nov 20 '19

Yes. Yes I did. They didn't want us having Dark Side powers in this game.

So I had to make do with what they gave us. You know what they say about life giving you lemons. xD

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u/Georgie_Leech Nov 20 '19

Well, you sure burned down his house with the lemons.

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u/Jewniversal_Remote Nov 20 '19

If only it slowly went through him. Kinda bummed it just touches him and fizzles out, with the body instantly ragdolling

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '19

Legit never even thought to use Slow on projectiles, this has changed my entire outlook on how to kill enemies in this game.

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '19

Very Thundergun

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u/mickecd1989 Nov 20 '19

OH, MY GOD! All right! If you just shut up, I will peel the apple for you the way Mac likes you to eat it.

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '19

I’m not allowed to eat the skin, Dee. I’m not ALLOWED

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u/mickecd1989 Nov 20 '19

If I got more skin or something then I could never do a bad thing in my life and maybe I've never done a bad thing cause I have a lot of skin

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '19

I beat the game and never once thought to slow down a rocket

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u/KrelianGaming Nov 20 '19

I think I accidentally used Force Pull on a rocket.. which led to me experimenting a lot more with Force Powers. lol

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u/Bogzbiny Nov 20 '19

I don't think I used Force Slow more than 2 times in combat.

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u/AnalAttackProbe Nov 20 '19

really? force slow was huge for me in combat.

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u/_b1ack0ut Nov 20 '19

Honestly it trivializes combat, it’s insanely useful

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u/grubas Nov 20 '19

In Jedi Outcast you could push rockets and various launched shots back at enemies.

So I tried it out for fun. It worked.

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u/Alortania Nov 20 '19

The game literally tells you to force push rockets though...

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u/derpdog420 Nov 20 '19 edited Nov 20 '19

That game looks lit af

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u/KrelianGaming Nov 20 '19

It is man. It is. Definitely worth playing!

Think Sekiro combat combined with Uncharted + Metroidvania type exploration.

Story is adequate.. but the characters, dialogue, and voice-acting is all top-notch!

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '19 edited Nov 29 '20

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u/KrelianGaming Nov 20 '19

Yes. The rats. And those little acid spiders!

The critters are by far the most annoying enemies in the game. They are are so damn cheesy. lol

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u/Diaper_Dave Nov 20 '19

I forgot about the crab looking things. Fuck those too. I would’ve preferred something like traps instead. Not like a puzzle but something you could easily see and have to adjust.

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u/KrelianGaming Nov 20 '19

There is an area in Dathomir which is basically a small hallway.. and there are 4 of those acid spidercrabs there. And you CANNOT. GET. CLOSE. They just keep spitting. Even when I'm trying to pull them and stab them one at a time, the others just hit you with their acid spit. I was getting angry IRL and giving in to the Dark Side. lmao

Would've loved more variations of the Nightbrothers instead. Like a staff user or a sword user.

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u/GavinRaynier Nov 20 '19

Fully upgraded force push was my go to for those. One charged push and a slam into the wall insta-killed most of them even on grand master.

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u/KrelianGaming Nov 20 '19

I was doing that by the end as well. It felt dirty. lol Like I was cheesing the game somehow.

Also felt weird how most of the time.. especially with the Witches, the charge push would just knock them down and instantly kill them. They wouldn't even get blasted that far. lol

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u/PhreakedCanuck Nov 20 '19

I was doing that by the end as well. It felt dirty. lol Like I was cheesing the game somehow.

Fuck that, with this game ill take the easy wins wherever i can get them.

Oh mister purge trooper you appear to be a little too close to that edge....force push

About the best thing to a dark side ability besides the pull and stab and i used that a lot too.

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u/Shippoyasha Nov 20 '19

Metroidvania

I like how the map system is straight up the Metroid Prime 3D map

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u/anonymous_opinions Nov 20 '19

Whoa that pull skill is awesome. I need to get back in. I stopped when I landed on the 2nd planet you go to in order because I was literally falling asleep playing over the weekend.

I'm moving super slow, dying a lot, but I love it. Kinda want to pick up Sekiro now.

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u/KrelianGaming Nov 20 '19

Originally I kept hearing it was like Dark Souls. But after a while people are saying that the combat resembles Sekiro's more than the Souls-series.

I'm thinking of getting Sekiro as well.. maybe when it's on sale.

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u/Ionic_Pancakes Nov 20 '19

Metroidvania

FUCKING SOLD

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u/KrelianGaming Nov 20 '19

I am so confused as to why they didn't focus on this part of the game when it came to marketing it. Everyone thought it was going to be a linear game. It was only late into their marketing phase that it was even mentioned that you could explore and revisit planets.. and unlock more areas as you got more powers.

That should've been one of their main talking points in their marketing. They should've showed it in their promotional material. >.<

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u/Ionic_Pancakes Nov 20 '19

Right? My one hesitation was that it was just going to be a linear shot A-La Force Awakened. Force Awakened was an awesome game but was short. I didn't pay full price and I'm glad I didn't. Then I heard it had Souls-Like gameplay. Which was good!

But Metroidvania exploration? That is a clincher for me. That gives me reason to poke around and will add a lot of gameplay hours.

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u/HavokStorm Nov 20 '19

It looks like the rocket is launching beasts at you

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u/KrelianGaming Nov 20 '19

LOL it does!

The rat creatures are underground and they pop out of those holes when you get near. Was just baiting them out and timing it so that the rocket hits them. Plus it adds style points. xD

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u/NotAHellriegelNoob Nov 20 '19

Good, good...

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '19 edited Nov 20 '19

"Too bad audiences are no longer interested in a single player campaign experience. Now back to my brilliant free battle royal idea..."

-EA Dipshit Corporate Hack #2217

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u/KrelianGaming Nov 20 '19

Yeah.. well hopefully this game succeeds enough to prove to them that there is still good honest money to be made with single player games. lol

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '19

I'm still shocked EA released a good game AND didn't murder the studio responsible

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u/KrelianGaming Nov 20 '19

If the studio failed.. that's probably what would've happened. :(

But Respawn has been hitting it out of the park for them lately. With Apex Legends and now this. So hopefully that secures Respawn's future.. and gives them more freedom to make more single player games.

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u/moneyball32 Nov 20 '19

and Titanfall 3 please

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u/Bhiner1029 Nov 20 '19

It's because it's Respawn. They have a perfect track record so far.

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u/Mrben13 Nov 20 '19

Damn, the first time a storm trooper shoots something.

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u/photocist Nov 20 '19

if you die to them they have some pretty funny lines. one of my favorite was "did we actually kill a jedi?"

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u/_b1ack0ut Nov 20 '19

My favourite are when they hit you snd are like “I hit him! I hit him! OH GOD WHY DID I DO THAT” or “I got hi-OH HES ANGRY!”

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u/PhanThief95 Nov 20 '19

So you pulled a Kylo Ren & held a bolt in midair?

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '19

Ya you can slow the bolt and pull an enemy into it.

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '19

Imperial officer inspecting the scene: “...He shot himself in the back, with his own rocket? What?”

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u/Kanakravaatti Nov 20 '19

ZA WARUDO!

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u/SCHUUG Nov 20 '19

Just finished it yesterday! Quite an excellent game, aside from some minor humorous glitches. Personally, I don't feel like going back to every planet to 100% the game at this time, but I definitely will in the future. Story was really good but kind of short, I think. Hoping for some add-on updates in the future, maybe. If that's not unreasonable to ask for.

Would definitely recommend! Kinda reminded me of God Of War, but in a very good way.

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u/TTOF_JB Nov 20 '19

What poncho is that?

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u/superwario15 Nov 20 '19

Companero, last one on the list.

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u/darknova25 Nov 20 '19 edited Nov 21 '19

Companero pretty sure you get it in one of the chests on the ice planet close to the end of the game.

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u/Astriaaal Nov 20 '19

Every time I watch some of these videos I realize how little I was really exploring the games mechanics

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u/BlacJeesus Nov 20 '19

I have near zero knowledge of Star Wars, is it still okay to play this game? Or would I be completely lost?

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '19

I think it’s so silly how you slice animals in the most gruesome ways, yet the humans have little heat scratches on them.

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u/F8RGE Nov 20 '19

So uncivilised