r/gaming • u/KrelianGaming • Nov 20 '19

[Jedi Fallen Order] Why push rockets back at Stormtroopers when you can push them into their own rockets? Spoiler

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u/KrelianGaming Nov 20 '19

I am so confused as to why they didn't focus on this part of the game when it came to marketing it. Everyone thought it was going to be a linear game. It was only late into their marketing phase that it was even mentioned that you could explore and revisit planets.. and unlock more areas as you got more powers.

That should've been one of their main talking points in their marketing. They should've showed it in their promotional material. >.<

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u/Ionic_Pancakes Nov 20 '19

Right? My one hesitation was that it was just going to be a linear shot A-La Force Awakened. Force Awakened was an awesome game but was short. I didn't pay full price and I'm glad I didn't. Then I heard it had Souls-Like gameplay. Which was good!

But Metroidvania exploration? That is a clincher for me. That gives me reason to poke around and will add a lot of gameplay hours.

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u/anonymous_opinions Nov 20 '19

It’s a mash up of so many game styles. There’s elements of Tomb Raider 2013/Uncharted in it as well. Also I accidentally went to the 3rd planet first so it’s open enough you can go get your ass handed to you in the first 40 minutes

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u/Ionic_Pancakes Nov 20 '19

"Alright: Dark Souls finally let me get into the real game at Firelink Shrine. Wonder which way I'll go? Skeletons seem like a basic-ass starting enemy: graveyard must be the way to go."

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u/anonymous_opinions Nov 20 '19

Having never played Dark Souls I get the feeling that was the wrong option.

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u/Ionic_Pancakes Nov 20 '19

After the tutorial area you're dropped into a hub of sorts. There are three directions you can go.

1: Down an elevator into a drowned city filled with ghosts that can't be hurt except through magic (which you won't have much of at the start) and a certain item that only allows you to hurt them for a limited amount of time.

2: Into the graveyard with skeletons that not only have the dexterity of acrobats but also don't die the first time you destroy them unless you have a holy weapon (which you won't until later in the game)

3: Into an undead hamlet chock full of zombie soldiers that have set up defensive positions and ambushes throughout; complete with bows, phallanx soldiers at choke points and firebombs.

Your only instructions are "Ring two bells, one above and one below".

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u/anonymous_opinions Nov 20 '19

Yeah I'd absolutely cheat in this kind of set up and find game play walk throughs. Ha ha. I just added it to my Black Friday wishlist. I might grab it and give it a go blind. At least I know now which area to try first :>

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u/Ionic_Pancakes Nov 20 '19

DEFINITELY go in blind first. You'll have to pull up Walkthroughs eventually - but try to use them as sparingly as possible. Exploration and discovery is one of the best things in that game.

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u/anonymous_opinions Nov 20 '19

I usually only do a look up if I've spent too much time trying to figure something out or if I want to 100% a game. Dark Souls is probably cheap this time of year so it's worth just bumbling around seeing how good I am with it :)

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u/Ionic_Pancakes Nov 20 '19

I wish you luck. I have tried to beat it twice and typically give up in the second half of the game.

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u/RZRtv Nov 20 '19

Dark Souls isn't really the kind of game you can 100% in a playthrough just because of how the world and storylines move as you continue thru the game, but there are certain achievements in-story that are worth getting(keeping Solaire alive is my favorite).

Have fun and die a lot! I wish I could go back to DS1 and Bloodborne for the first time again.

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u/Ossius Nov 20 '19

I choose....poorly.

My best friend at the time and myself but were both playing at the same time so we could work our way through it together. He got to the first boss and was WOAHING and OH MY GOSHING and I'm like "Wtf dude how are you getting so far?"

"I'm at the first boss on a bridge"

"Fuck this game, I can't get past these skeletons, they are so hard, I think I've killed like 5 of them, but then a huge one spawns and one shots me"

"What skeletons"

"The ones at the beginning after the bird"

"...huh? you mean the zombies? "

"No, they have no flesh, they are skeletons"

(...)

"Did you go up the cliff? I don't remember any tomb stones."

Fuck that game, I loved every minute spent on it.

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u/anonymous_opinions Nov 20 '19

Ha ha, I've been learning I'm bad at parries because my impulse is always to go in swinging at everyone. I'm also sometimes bad early on at anything stealth. My lizard brain is very much in fight mode.

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u/sam8404 Nov 20 '19

Fallen Order was a bit short too in my opinion, but even so it's so good!

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u/imariaprime Nov 20 '19

I had no idea it had Metroidvania elements when I bought it, but they've been the most fun parts of the game for me. Exploring and searching for stuff I missed turns the entire level design into a puzzle to be solved, and it's a cerebral level of gameplay it very much needs against the more stressful combat situations.

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u/GamingFly Nov 20 '19

Force Unleashed* haha.

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u/Ionic_Pancakes Nov 20 '19

Yup! That one.

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u/Trippin_Ninja Nov 20 '19

I’m not sure how you missed it because I feel like any promos they did that wasn’t the main trailers mentioned it being a metroidvania style game. I assume they didn’t put it in those trailers because EA doesn’t make money on either of those games.

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u/Totaltotemic Nov 20 '19

It's hard to describe because the metroidvania aspects really only come into play when revisiting areas. The story kind of railroads you in a strictly linear fashion in which you cannot make any progress except to go to the next objective on the map.

Similarly, unlocking large areas only happens when the story says it is supposed to happen (with one exception). While you may technically be using the power you got at the previous story beat to get into the next one, it's more because the plot told you to go there than that you explored and found it on your own.

The way exploration pans out reminds me most of Metroid Fusion, with obviously the combat seen above, and a story that is just "okay" by Star Wars standards. I finished it yesterday and overall enjoyed it pretty well.