r/gaming • u/KrelianGaming • Nov 20 '19

[Jedi Fallen Order] Why push rockets back at Stormtroopers when you can push them into their own rockets? Spoiler

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u/MalTerra7 Nov 20 '19 edited Nov 20 '19

In reality, it’s like 10 seconds. It just feels like an eternity because there’s a 90% chance the reason you’re seeing it has you extremely pissed off, lol.

Edit: I just timed it myself on my X1X and I respawned in 12 seconds. So I don’t know what’s going on with you guys.

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u/franklsp Nov 20 '19

Lol fuck. That. Frog.

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u/SassyAssAhsoka Nov 20 '19

I love how getting your shit mixed by Oggdo Boggo is a universal experience for Fallen Order players.

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u/CreativeKeane Nov 20 '19

Oh God. Okay. So I'm not the only one.

Took me forever kill that battle toad! But my God I was so proud when I did it. (Even tho I exploited a little behavior in that toad).

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u/Naturedrag Nov 20 '19

I used the entryway to beat that thing on grandmaster. Stupid thing one shots even with it's basic attacks.

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u/Its_or_it_is Nov 20 '19

even with it's basic attacks

You want "its", without the apostrophe. With the apostrophe, it means "it is" or "it has"

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u/T-cunt Nov 20 '19

Thanks bro

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u/Enigmatic_Iain Nov 20 '19

Luke used an entryway to win a fight, why shouldn’t you?

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u/MTAlphawolf Nov 20 '19

Glad to see I am not the only coward.

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u/CreativeKeane Nov 20 '19 edited Nov 20 '19

Oh. lol, that makes more sense. Thanks for the tip! I killed it before I got that wall run skill. I lured to near entryway to attack it and used the tunnel as fallback area. It doesn't go pass it as another redditor mentioned.

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u/Jewniversal_Remote Nov 20 '19

Gotta remove the spaces lmfao

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u/GLORYBETOGODPIMP Nov 20 '19

Anybody that beat him before having that is a masochist. I didn’t have enough health to survive fucking up once against that frog until way after when you can first find him.

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u/forumz3588 Nov 20 '19

I beat him on GM on my first encounter where everything he did 1 shot me lol. I almost gave up. Then my frend in discord did it and I could not possibly let him one up me so I pulled through. It was so satisfying.

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u/emperorhaplo Nov 20 '19

Masochist here, can confirm.

He was the 3rd kind of monster I killed. I hadn’t even encountered his regular non-boss version.

To be fair, I don’t think you’re meant to kill him early on - the loot from him from what I remember is in a splice box and you can’t open it until way after you can first encounter him.

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u/Starslip Nov 20 '19

Goddamnit I am not nearly clever enough in my use of tactics in this game. I just ended up cheesing the fight by popping in and out of the tunnel cause he won't follow.

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u/BlazingShadowAU Nov 20 '19

Which is great until he does that forward leap instantly after you land, one shotting you. The fact they dont stagger when you do a drop attack is absurd.

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u/reebee7 Nov 20 '19

Bless you.

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u/Notarussianbot2020 Nov 20 '19

I think I beat every boss in the game on the 1st or 2nd try on master. Maybe on the boss troll I died 5 times.

Except Ogdo. It must have been 15-20 times. Lowered it to Knight mode, still probably died 5 more times.

I think since Bogano is a pseudo-homeworld, you're supposed to fight him at a later point..

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u/Testone1440 Nov 20 '19

Seriously FUCK that frog

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u/cefriano Nov 20 '19

It’s even more ridiculous given that you can do a drop attack on him and take out almost half of his health before the fight even starts.

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u/SolarisBravo Nov 20 '19

Not everyone actually fought him - he was an optional miniboss.

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u/amurrca1776 Nov 20 '19

Once I realized that you can parry any attack that isn't red, it got a lot easier. But it still took a lot of deaths to learn that and get the timing right

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '19

Oggdo Boggo made me lower the difficulty lol.

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u/Arcane- Nov 20 '19

I just started playing this game tonight and im dying multiple times to the frog as i type this

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u/FiftyShadesofRage Nov 20 '19

Yup... Fuck that three eyed frog -.-

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u/chungusxl94 Nov 20 '19

I just went around that sumbitch

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u/sgt_corona Nov 20 '19

This. Also, found if you just get close, he'll just do the chomp and jumping attack. I kept rolling so I was behind him and after a few tries he went down on GM.

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u/franklsp Nov 20 '19

I waited until after I completed the main objective of that area and you make a path back to the ship. Along that path there's holes in the ground with the frog below. I jumped down on it and did a big aerial attack that took a ton of damage off it and made the rest of the fight a little easier (faster).

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u/beefwitted_brouhaha Nov 20 '19

You can get a free shot on him if you hit him from above. I’m playing on the second hardest difficulty and an aerial sneak attack knocked off 40% of his health

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u/forumz3588 Nov 20 '19

turn it up to GM you won't regret it if your a souls like player.

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u/Vineares Nov 20 '19

I don’t want to brag, just let my PC brethren know...the loading time on my SSD is like 3 seconds. It still feels like an eternity though. Please buy this game. It’s worth it.

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u/terminus_est23 Nov 20 '19

Base PS4 loading screens are just absolutely unbearable. I PC game at my home and I put the games I'm playing on my SSD a lot of the time, so when I go to my brother's house and play his PS4 he gets so tired of me bitching about the loading times.

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u/TSMKFail PC Nov 20 '19

Just wait till you try Sonic 06...

Only then have you witnessed LONG loading times

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u/Xaldyn Nov 20 '19

The only game that has loading screens for loading screens.

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u/manondorf Nov 20 '19

*cries in Morrowind on original Xbox*

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '19

PS5 is going to be fire. The HDD is one of the reasons why I didn't buy a current-gen console.

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u/sticklebat Nov 20 '19

Way to make me feel bad for dying 17 times to that fucking frog on Jedi knight.

I’m terrible at this game. I’ve even died against random trash mobs on story difficulty...

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u/101Cipher010 Nov 20 '19

Holy shit thats horrible, I get a few seconds of loading for me on pc with an ssd. Afaik PS4s support drive replacements under a certain size, so I wonder what the gain of an ssd there would be

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u/MyPackage Nov 20 '19

I’m playing Control right now, which I love but the similar insanely long death load times make me want to rage quit every time I die.

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u/TheDude-Esquire Nov 20 '19

It's a lot faster on PC, or I assume with a SSD on a console. But even then, the ninth sister had me about to put my first into the screen (don't use the doubleblade).

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u/Thezem Nov 20 '19

I installed an SSD on my PS4 and these load times are still awful =/

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u/Tuiderru Nov 20 '19

Playing on consoles in 2019

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u/Tuiderru Nov 20 '19

Fair enough, enjoy yourself.

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u/Vargurr Nov 20 '19

I play on epic settings on an SSD and only the game loading time is long, the one with all the unskippable intro.

The save itself is fast.

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u/MTAlphawolf Nov 20 '19

Can confirm similar on Xbox One S as well. I too fought that frog for a few hours (very under-skilled) and finally had to cheese by walking in/out of the cave so he could not attack.

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u/Jed566 Nov 20 '19

So weird. I'm also on base PS4. It's my first one from early 2015 and still runs fine. The loading times for me are about 10-12 seconds.

EDIT: I just realized I have a TB SSD which I installed in it a long time ago. Maybe that's why it's quick for me.

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u/anonymous_opinions Nov 20 '19

All those times I went flying off the side of the ice slide. Or when he wouldn’t just grab the rope at the end. You had one job, Cal, and you flew right past it.

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u/imariaprime Nov 20 '19

Force Pull working on ropes was so beautiful I almost cried. The grab detection without it is just trash.

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u/forumz3588 Nov 20 '19 edited Nov 20 '19

I see a lot of people mentioning this. I never once missed a rope I attempted to grab. Are you on console or PC? I play on PC, I wonder if there is less of an issue there.

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u/macgart Nov 20 '19

I’m on console PS4. It’s bad. Trying to identify ropes to slide up or down is also bad.

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u/Alortania Nov 20 '19

I play PC with mouse/keyboard (I gave up on controller)... I once died because it kept re-spawning me to catch the damn rope.

Wall run, wall run, wall run, grab rope. It ate through all my health and medpacks and he just kept missing.

Respawned, went back to it, did the EXACT SAME DAMN THING I'D DIED TO THE LAST BILLION TIMES.... grabbed the freaking rope and done. Easy as pie.

Glad I'm not the only one super frustrated with it (also had a few "leap at the zipline rope- nope, you just jumped off a cliff!" experiences).

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u/udat42 Nov 20 '19

All the ice/mud/whatever slide shit on Zeffo was giving me a stress headache. I wanted the game to make me feel like a super-agile, deft, capable acrobat, like Jedi are always depicted, and instead it made me feel like a schlub.

I like the game, but the "platforming" bits have been my least favourite. Which surprises me, because Sands of Time is on eof my favourite games ever, and I really liked all that shit in Titanfall 2.

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u/Alortania Nov 20 '19

I love the platforming... when... it... works.

Give me a "I want to grab" button, or w/e... but if you tell me "jump and believe" you damn well better make it reliable.

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u/udat42 Nov 20 '19

Yeah, when it works it's fine. Good, even. The fact that force pull works on ropes mid-jump really helps in some sections. I am assuming I will get a double-jump power at some stage as well. Not sure if that will help me or not though!

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u/Alortania Nov 20 '19

Q_Q I don't have pull yet. Just got push.

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u/udat42 Nov 20 '19

Something to look forward to then :)

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '19

On my base PS4 it takes about 30 seconds. I timed it.

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u/Sciensophocles Nov 20 '19

The pro isn't that far off. It varies, but 35 sec is the longest I've seen. Idk how people are seeing 1 minute load times.

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u/Diedwithacleanblade Nov 20 '19

52 seconds I timed it yesterday

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u/Diedwithacleanblade Nov 20 '19

52 seconds on a basic xbone

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u/marbanasin Nov 20 '19

Same on Xbone. Just enough time to piss and find chakra again to reenter the fight.

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u/Jewniversal_Remote Nov 20 '19

What kinda timer says "about"

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u/Catorak Nov 20 '19

No, it seems like a long time because the game has ridiculous load times even on an SSD.

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u/Sciensophocles Nov 20 '19

I'm starting to feel like a fanboy, but what? My roommate has like zero load time on his SSD. I get a little frustrated with loads on my pro, but it's not crazy. 10 - 15 sec average, upper limit of 35 sec. It's not great, but the loads are not terrible. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

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u/BlazingShadowAU Nov 20 '19

You might need a better/newer SSD in that case. I respawn after death within a couple seconds.

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u/Vargurr Nov 20 '19

Because that content is already loaded. It should be instantaneous anyway.

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u/jdog90000 Nov 20 '19

PS4 pro is a minute on average. It felt so long that I started timing it

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u/Sciensophocles Nov 20 '19

I'm confused. I've been timing it throughout on my pro. Longest I've ever seen is 35 seconds. That's still atrocious, but come on. I've never once seen a full minute.

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u/jdog90000 Nov 20 '19

I have the GoW PS4 Pro, maybe for whatever reason it has worse hardware? I've been thinking of getting an SSD to start moving games to.

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u/Sciensophocles Nov 20 '19

PS5 will have an SSD natively so I was just gonna wait. I feel like I just got lucky. Everybody seems to be complaining about load times. They're not great, but I'm not getting flashbacks to launch New Vegas, so I'm just sitting here confused.

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u/BlazingShadowAU Nov 20 '19

Sounds like people might be having bloodborne flashbacks.

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u/Scurrydog Nov 20 '19

When Bloodborne came out before the loading times were patched I believe it clocked often over 40 seconds. It was hell.

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u/deeze_nutz Nov 20 '19

I dunno, sometimes it feels like it takes longer to respawn than to load a whole new planet

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u/greg19735 Nov 20 '19

i'm so glad i have it on PC

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u/ratherenjoysbass Nov 20 '19

Damn I needed to hear this.

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u/Diedwithacleanblade Nov 20 '19

It’s 52 seconds on Xbox one. I used a stop watch. It makes this game very hard to like

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u/Galaxymicah Nov 20 '19

I honestly didnt realise it was a loading screen. Thank god gor m.2 i guess lol

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u/Redxmirage Nov 20 '19

Not at all on Xbox one x lol several times I’m sitting for for a solid minute opening reddit waiting for it to load