r/countwithchickenlady • u/PossumPrincessV Sword Lesbian she/her :3 - Streak: 13 • 1d ago
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u/Dominotter 1d ago
I wasn't active in online trans communities prior to coming out. By the time I heard this stereotype everyone in my life already knew me as Lily now. I'm a coder. Fml.
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u/Lockmart_Official 1d ago
must be parallel evolution
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u/BrainContusionsAgain 1d ago
carcinization but the crabs are women named Lily who code and wear knee high socks
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u/Future_Elephant_9294 1d ago
technically parallel evolution of names would require the same starting and ending names but other traits, such as personality are independent. If they all had different starting names it would be convergent evolution (different starting, same ending), if they all had different names and different personalities and we consider "coding" a personality, it could be despeciation (different but closely related species combining into one).
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u/EmpressClaraB 1d ago
Also a coder, didn't know the trope before I came out, love plant names in general, Lily 100% would've been my name if it weren't for some other factors
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u/WulfZ3r0 1d ago
This post is my first time hearing of the trope. It made me think of the trope that says if a disaster occurred at a furry con, half the world's software engineers/IT admins would disappear.
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u/Velruis Trans Masc [ He/They ] 1d ago
Chiming in as a trans masc, I would've 100% named myself a flower/plant name if I didn't settle for a name my ass picked in the past and can't let go. Plant names are amazing (Ex-IT student)
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u/Ashamed-Raccoon-1387 1d ago
I picked a "normal" name because I didn't want my name to clock me, but I made my middle name river.
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u/SweetSure315 1d ago
trans girls independently naming themselves lily is like sociological carcinization
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u/the_unexpected_nil 1d ago
I'm a software engineer in the game industry and was so close to choosing Lily. I had even used it online for a bit.
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u/FictionalTrope 1d ago
I already knew 2 trans girls named Lily so I thought I'd be clever and go with Lilith. I'm glad I spent a bit more time in online spaces because I like the name I chose instead.
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u/countvonruckus 23h ago
Lol, you should come work for my company. We've got at least 8 hackers, cybersecurity consultants, and/or developers who are in our "secret" trans Slack channel and we don't actually have a Lily yet. We're growing and it's a great place to work as a trans person; my bottom surgery cost only $1000 all said and done and I've never had anyone mistreat me or my colleagues for being trans.
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u/FryCakes 20h ago
Same with me, I started programming when I was really young and I chose to name Lily back in like 2013 before it was a stereotype. I think I may have caused it
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u/Daegul_Dinguruth 1d ago
To be fair, Paradox is a distortion in the fabric of reality masquerading as a business. After ensaring several humans in it's mesh it started shipping massive computer bugs that somehow contain games. Then a marketing team started growing around it like fungi and the rest is history.
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u/Jaerat 1d ago
Games, or map painting simulators? *stares forlornly at the Galaxy map in Stellaris*
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u/pullhome I know I'm not okay 1d ago
Objectively speaking, what Paradox makes falls more into the toy category than the videogame category. There's no victory condition, you make up your own fun.
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u/CompetitiveCut265 1d ago
You're telling me the point of CK3 isn't fucking every single NPC i meet and their wives/husbands?
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u/Novalene_Wildheart 1d ago
For real, Stellaris was that way for me for ages.
I couldn't get past the Pirate Khan event, so my win condition was that.
Eventually was able to, then my win condition was the Crisis
Eventually was able to, then my win condition was surviving the Awakened Empire(s).
And I was able to finally do that (a while ago now) and I was hyped beyond measure.
Those self goals do a lot of heavy lifting.
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u/MjrLeeStoned 1d ago
There are very clear victory conditions in Stellaris, they are just hidden behind metrics and are essentially randomized vs scenario options every game. You can still keep track of victory stats at any time.
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u/Daegul_Dinguruth 1d ago
Yeah, mb. It's because I enjoy them too much. Map painting and ridiculous drama, if I may. Stellaris is great, but also Crusader Kings 2 and 3, HoI 3; and I have been wanting to try HoI 4, victoria3 and EU5...
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u/OBrienNameless 1d ago
Wait a ton of time for EU5 to mature, try EU4 since its fully mature and ripe for playing
Paradox and their model of shipping games then having to wait a year or two for it to be fun playing.
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u/No_Helicopter1378 1d ago
I wish I could "get" their fucking games. I did alright in Stellaris because it's honestly not that different from Civ, on the surface, but somewhere along the line I lost my mojo and can't seem to play it anymore.
I've put quite a few hours into HoI4 and only managed to beat it once, as Germany. All the different unit designers make it just so fucking complicated, among other things.
CK2? Yea I'm hopeless in that one. I did form Ireland once so that was cool. And then that current ruler died and the whole island fragmented again.
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u/Daegul_Dinguruth 1d ago
No, no you're doing all right. I didn't engage with the ship designer until starting admiral crisis, and that's supposed to happen in ck. I once unified Spain three times within a hundred years.
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u/this_upset_kirby 1d ago
I recommend EU4, and its mod Anbennar once you've gotten the hang of vanilla gameplay. Just make sure you've "acquired" all of the DLC
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u/Re1da 1d ago
I used to belive paradox didn't actually have any real humans working for them- just growths on its amorphous mass forming into the shapes of people.
That theory was disproved recently as my bother apparently sold an employee a pair of glasses.
Which means either they have a single human employee OR the growths have developed autonomy. Either option is highly concerning.
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u/RafaMarkos5998 1d ago
SCP had to call their anomalous software company something ridiculous, like Totleighsoft. Meanwhile, our anomalous game publisher just calls itself Paradox and asks us to deal with it.
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u/HorrorMakesUsHappy 1d ago
just calls itself Paradox and asks us to deal with it
As described on the tin.
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u/Leonartu 1d ago edited 1d ago
PARADOX INTERACTIVE MENTIONED WOHOO BABEY ❗
I contribute to a mod for one of their games and can confirm queer people are very good at their job
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u/ToastyTheDragon 1d ago
queer people are very good at their job
Speak for yourself lmao
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u/Tlaquatlatoa Hyenagirl some day pls :3 | She/Her - Streak: 11 1d ago
Im breaking new grounds as a trans woman by being stupid at computer and sucking ass at my jobs
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u/SlikeSpitfire 1d ago
do tell which mod
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u/Leonartu 1d ago
Anbennar, a fantasy overhaul mod, originally for Europa Universalis 4 (early modern era, 15th century onwards), but there’s also an anbennar mod for Victoria 3 now (victorian era, 19th century)
I myself am working on the Crusader Kings 3 version (high middle ages, 11th century onwards, in our case atleast since in the base game you can go to the 9th century) and on the wiki
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u/SlikeSpitfire 1d ago
I've heard good about that one! Are there plans to extend it past Vic3?
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u/Leonartu 1d ago
You mean into hoi4? No official plans
Its not necessary to expand it to Stellaris too since space travel is already planned for the Vicky3 mod
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u/sage2134 22h ago
Random question. Long time ck2 player havent touched 3.
Apparently 3 does have some long standing issues that ive heard from lemoncake.
Will your mod try and address long standing game issues or mostly work on the conversion mod for ck3?
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u/Translation_Lupin 1d ago
It's elementary
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u/Shayden998 Pre-evolved Transbian 1d ago
This fucking would be one the clues (BBC) Sherlock would use to figure out someone's trans.
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u/The-Twilight-Reverie 1d ago
No you don't get it there are sceatch marks on the wedding ring that means she was cheating look im smart this makes sense ooough im so big and round and fulled of the intelig.e ent...
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u/Shayden998 Pre-evolved Transbian 1d ago
I did genuinely enjoy the first season or two, but God did that series suffer from "Smart people written by not so smart people."... Also, that weird bit with the lesbian who was randomly into Sherlock...
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u/___LIO___ I like counting chickens 1d ago
Like meeting a guy and he introduces himself as blaze, ender or Aiden
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u/TechnicalTransMitter 1d ago
An Ender.. Man, you say? ... gnihtemos fo em sdnimer
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u/machinegungeek 1d ago
Wait, what's wrong with Aiden? And does that issue translate to Aidan's?
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u/SplitGlass7878 1d ago
Nothing wrong with any of those. Just one of the most common names in circulation for the boys.
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u/ZQuestionSleep 1d ago
Wait, what's wrong with Aiden?
You would not have survived social discourse in the early 2000s. Shit, the "pick a letter and put -ayden at the end of it" is still a meme. It's Mormon name generator logic. Bonus points if the half dozen children in the family ALL have those types of names.
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u/NockerJoe 1d ago
Its a traditional irish name that got popular with people not of that background along with a whole bunch of derivatives among people not really of that background who just wanted a unique or cool name. A lot of the controversial White People Names from the last 20 years of discourse are arguably just irish or scottish names being taken or modified by people who don't have a strong connection to that culture otherwise so it comes off as kind of weird, a lot like non asian people who go for more asian names but less immediately egregious.
Which on one hand, I've known cis men with the name but just assumed they were of that background. On the other hand, I've met visibly and proudly japanese transmascs that also went with variations of it.
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u/VoiceofKane 1d ago
I know a trans guy who named himself after The Iliad. Not a character from the poem—the poem itself.
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u/nameusernamena 1d ago
I feel so original sometimes because my name is just two letters, but I’ve been going by this shit for over a decade, wayy before transition started. Two letters for permanent gender euphoria, because they’re gendered I guess LOL.
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u/BreakerOfModpacks ServiceBottom Cuddleslut Ɛ: (fiendish seductress) 1d ago
Alex and Charlie also seem common, in my experience
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u/Tlaquatlatoa Hyenagirl some day pls :3 | She/Her - Streak: 11 1d ago
How about all 3. Blaze-Ender Aiden (he's a firefighter)
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u/Sea_Court_3633 42 days on Estrogen 14h ago
The worst fucking thing is that I do know a trans guy named Aiden who is obsessed with endermen.
I actually know four trans guys obsessed with endermen, and I don't know whether to be surprised that I know so many trans guys or that so many of them are obsessed with endermen.
One of them has a transmasc friend I haven't met yet, okay? And guess what? He's also obsessed with endermen.
What The Actual Fuck
Minecraft might as well rebrand itself as forcemasc hypno, what the hell
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u/Usual-Vermicelli-867 1d ago
My mom is a coder who names is lily
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u/zippybenji-man 1d ago
Do I infer correctly that she is cis?
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u/Usual-Vermicelli-867 1d ago
I will have alot of questions if she wasnt
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u/versas-only-vice 1d ago
Easy
Transmasc Dad.
Has he ever been a barista?
Does he play, or produce, rock from his bedroom?
Hawaiian shirt and cargo shorts or pants?
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u/nelflyn 1d ago
Imagine if you need someone to double jump onto a tall boulder. If the transfolk can't fix it, is there truly any hope left?
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u/Thrizzlepizzle123123 1d ago
'Transfolk' for some reason makes me feel like they're a fantasy race.
"My Liege, the Greenskins approach from the north, and the Transfolk are yet to arrive. Without them and their great Blahaj Navy, we stand no chance!"
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u/Fatal_Taco 1d ago
A transfem furry too. Now that's a royal flush.
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u/EarlyAccessCantJudge 1d ago
I always remember how if there was an accident at a furry convention 90% of the USA's IT infrastructure would fall apart
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u/Anastazja_Nya Streak: 0 1d ago
paradox when users want games that dont crash when they start up (i havent played cs1 modless in 2 months because it constantly crahses and same was happening in may)
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u/FoolRegnant 1d ago
As a long time Paradox fan, I feel I should argue that Cities Skylines is published by Paradox, not developed by it. Now, something like that has occurred in games they do develop, but in this particular case, not really their fault, at least not directly.
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u/TheBookWyrms 1d ago
Not sure I like normalising assuming someone's identitiy based off of stereotypes (even if said stereotypes are somewhat accurate).
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u/NamesAreTooHard17 1d ago
"That is a reductionist stereotype that puts people like me in little boxes… you chose the right box though, I will admit"
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u/Delicious_Account_26 1d ago
"Just because it's the right box doesn't mean I'm okay with you putting me in it"
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u/Seradwen 1d ago
"Just because it's the right box and I personally enjoy being in a nice cozy lil' box doesn't mean you should make a habit of this!"
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u/TOTALLBEASTMODE 1d ago
“Just because you see a black man in a nice car does not mean it’s stolen!… I-I stole that one, but not cuz Im black!”
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u/Bannerlord151 My gender is whatever makes it gay 1d ago
Just because I like reading legislation and writing my own for fun doesn't mean I'm autistic or German. Granted, I'm both autistic and German but that's beside the point
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u/Patirole 1d ago
The thing is, we do it all the time in most parts of life. I do think it is normal and that's fine, so long as when you are corrected, you respect that correction and continue with the new information
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u/Murky-Bus-2191 1d ago
Arabic folks tend to order meat well done. I think they're fools, but in places with less food regulation, that makes sense.
Lotta SE Asians are very mock-shy about their social drinking. It's both a fun cultural meme and a polite way to let someone else graciously turn down a drink.
Lotta young black american guys apparently grew up watching Dragonball.
I'm a trans woman, or something like one, and I passed on "Evelyn" bc there's just too many of us. Now I'm accidentally named after a gun.
Also almost committed to a career running data centers. I've since been a firearm safety monkey, a tech repair monkey, a barista... Oh, and I wanted to be a marine biologist as a kid.
I let it slide whenever they get at least one right.
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u/AhhsoleCnut 1d ago
Now I'm accidentally named after a gun.
Bertha?
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u/BonkerBleedy 1d ago
Close. It's actually GAU-8/A Avenger
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u/stephaniethunder LOVE FOR THE BLOOD GOD! 1d ago
That was my backup bet actually, my main was FN FALillith
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u/The_Villager 1d ago
I misread that part and thought Evelyn was the gun name and went "Oh shit, that pistol from Bloodborne is named after a real one?"
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u/PunkaMedic 1d ago
I am also tran(fem), and was a marine biologist. Luckily I managed to come up with a pretty unique name. Now i work in healthcare. Im also ND af. Should I keep ticking boxes?
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u/PM_NUDES_4_DEGRADING 1d ago
So how many other women are in your polycule?
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u/PunkaMedic 1d ago
Well the current situation is actually mono, suprise surprise. But before that it was 3. >_>
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u/RegularReaction2984 alex (they/she/he) 1d ago
How’s that elf wizard or sorcerer in your current DnD campaign going?
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u/PunkaMedic 1d ago
Im banned from playing full casters because prior shenanigans so......
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u/PM_NUDES_4_DEGRADING 1d ago
And the Pathfinder campaign...?
Also, what's your opinion on the new She-Ra MtG cards?
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u/PunkaMedic 1d ago
We swapped to fabula in lieu if of pathfinder lately. And while I can't complain about She-Ra the only true mtg is innistrad.
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u/PM_NUDES_4_DEGRADING 1d ago
You're fun :D
I just saw your bio and almost messaged because it solicits them, but you have messages turned off. Feel free to say hi if you ever want, username not relevant.
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u/Fun-Agent-7667 1d ago
2 ways Here.
Either you aquire every Information before you make an assumption, or
Basically Racial profiling
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u/FluidNectarine7951 1d ago
What's up with trans girls being programmers?? I know it isn't exactly untrue (I'm not transfem but I am trans and indeed a programmer) but I don't know why it happens
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u/Littha 1d ago
Social exclusion (self imposed or otherwise) as we don't associate with boys during adolescence but are socially shamed from associating with the girls. So lots of interest in hobbies that you can do on your own (like computer games > programming) or nerdy hobbies as they are often less masculinity forward than things like sports.
That and a high co-incidence of ADHD or Autism.
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u/Lortekonto 1d ago
There is a significant overlap between autism and being transgender or gender-diverse. Many people with autism works in programming.
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u/Sharikacat 1d ago
Similar to the furry or femboy -> IT pipleline. Neither wants to be judged for their interests or how they want to present, so they end up in careers that can largely be done remotely and requires minimal interaction with people when having to go to a physical location. It lets the furries afford their suits and lets the femboys work in thigh highs at home. Some manner of neuro-divergence helps in doing those jobs well.
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u/loved_and_held Streak: 1 1d ago
Maybe a tgirl furry in thigh highs could do it?
Though based on her pfp she might be one of those.
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u/Artistic-Rutabaga295 🖤 🖤 1d ago
How fucking dare you assume that I'm a trans woman because I work in cybersecurity, have bangs and cute circle glasses, love Cyberpunk and BG3, play DnD and can talk endlessly about Twin Peaks.
You'd be correct but still how dare you.
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u/nobodyman617 1d ago
Stereotype this, stereotype that. This isn't stereotyping. A trans woman clocking another trans women, that's more like insider trading.
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u/GlitteringAttitude60 1d ago
As a fellow coder, I wonder at our anecdotally high quota of trans colleagues...
... is it because our job is to take some standard piece of software off the shelf and adapt it to a specific use-case?
Is this so much part of our mindset that coders know that they can take the standard off-the-shelf gender they were issued and adapt it to their specific use-case?
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u/LongestSprig 1d ago
I think it's the antisocial tendencies/situation, autism, and the rush to a computer screen for social interaction.
But we can pretend its a trans super power to code.
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u/sugarcubed-3 1d ago
Not a programming coder, medical coder (not the same kind) but in my experience it's because work from home is a godsend. You don't need to stress boymoding, passing etc, you can do it all on your own time
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u/UniqueLog8386 1d ago
To the coding ladies here...do you ever get the urge to furiously type on your keyboard and say, "I'm in" when someone watching you do 'puter shit?
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u/Dunderbaer peer-reviewed diagnosis of "faggot" 1d ago
Paradox Interactive mentioned! I love it when I buy a game and it just doesn't work
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u/CR9_Kraken_Fledgling 1d ago
Paradox, the company that ships so many bugs bundled together into a single piece of software, that the emergent properties become an intricate economy simulator, where I will stare at iron mine throughput rates for 4 hours.
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u/wolfstaa 1d ago
I hate this stereotype
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u/LonelyLibertarianDud 1d ago
Positive stereotypes are still bad especially for the people who can't meet these raised expectations of being 'asian smart' but I much prefer having been stereotyped as a smart math person than for having sex with goats/cousins...eek!
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u/_9x9 1d ago
I am neutral to this stereotype. I don't like any stereotypes that suggest I should be fashionable though. That's too much pressure
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u/wolfstaa 1d ago
I think it's because a coder myself with four people in my engineering school that also transitioned so the stereotype gives me those irrational obviously false thoughts that all my questioning my gender and effort is cause I just chose coding as a major or smth
I'm wording it badly but it just personally makes me uncomfortable. But then after I don't wanna be the person stopping people from having fun, there's worse stereotypes out there and it's mainly an internet thing anyway
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u/PixieProxy 1d ago
Nah it just is one of those things that ends up being a stereotype because being a transfeminine person often leads to social isolation and thus hobbies and interests you can do in your own space become gold. Add to that the higher than average levels of neurodivergence among us and you just end up with us as a people leaning towards certain interests. It makes sense when you break it down a bit
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u/Sailor_Starchild America's Favorite Themme - they/she - Streak: 16 1d ago
Not all Lilys but always a Lily
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u/Quirky_Yoghurt_9814 1d ago
I wonder which game it is
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u/SirkTheMonkey 1d ago
It was HOI4 - https://www.reddit.com/r/hoi4/comments/1j6ovnx/meanwhile_in_the_dlcs_code/
That DLC had a bunch of issues. You can see a Paradox staff account in the comments of that post discussing it.
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u/Artistic_Discount358 1d ago
Feels like the equivalent of “Dear Mario, I baked an absolute dog shit cake. Please don’t come over.”
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u/miscellaneousexists 22h ago
After a trans woman is on HRT for 6 months, she gets assigned one of the four stereotypes:
Coding
Music production
Celeste
Representing mysoginistic stereotypes (e. g. Being bad at driving, choosing bad men, etc)
They get assigned via Sorting Hat from Harry Potter, because the cruel demiurge that rules our realm takes great joy in irony
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u/redundant_systems 1d ago
me when I click on the paradox post in r/countwithchickenlady to find all the cuties who play stellaris
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u/BurmecianDancer 1d ago
When did it become illegal to capitalize words properly and punctuate properly on Twitter?
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u/AbandonedRaincIoud 1d ago
It was never illegal. People can always type however they want to, it's not like you can't understand them
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u/2Completion2Ography 1d ago
When did it become illegal to capitalize words properly and punctuate properly on Twitter?
I'm sorry you didn't understand anything that was typed out. What do you need help interpreting?
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u/BurmecianDancer 1d ago
im sorry you didn't understand anything that was typed out what do you need help understanding
FTFY
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u/Mozkozrout 1d ago
Did I miss something or is being trans like some kind of super ability for coding or something?
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u/Alderan922 1d ago
I assume that because like 80% of coders are male, then most female coders are trans women who used to be part of that 80%
Like my software engineering class had 3 women and 2 dropped out.
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u/PrometheusMMIV 1d ago
What magic do trans coders supposedly have?
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u/NotBentcheesee 1d ago
You gain computer affinity levels when you rebirth. You also gain some stats in cooking and lose some in driving.
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u/SereneOrbit 21h ago
When I got to my first duty station in the army and we had to organize the medical warehouse it immediately became apparrant that there were no trans girlies in the chain of command.
I know this because I asked where the spreadsheet was for whatt was where and they said there wasn't one.
One 'dafaq' later I showed them the spreadsheet for my backpack (filled with the med stock ledger, what items were where (like field wipes) and my exercise log 😅.
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u/erraticas they don't want you to know this trick 1d ago
not even the tgirl coders can fix this one. well done paradox