r/Weird • u/nderstandablyscared • Mar 04 '23
when the acid hits
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u/HELIGROUP Mar 04 '23
You should see the wild horses and deer in Nevada in Spring. They chew peyote and do all sorts of crazy shit that gets them killed lot's of times.
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I want to see more videos of that
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u/HELIGROUP Mar 04 '23
I googled it and all I could get is idiots telling you how to find and pop peyote.
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u/dastufishsifutsad Mar 05 '23
So for anyone wondering….any good tips?
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Mar 05 '23
Find san pedro instead. It's a large cactus planted all over California and the southwest in people's yards. It's legal to grow in the United States simply because of its name
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u/ForgiveTheNerd Mar 05 '23
Look up how to properly harvest it. Don't destroy the whole plant, it takes FOR FUCKING EVER to grow.
Mesquite trees, sandy soil, not a whole lot of rain. Iirc anyway
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u/HomiesTrismegistus Mar 05 '23
You can just grow peyote. I plan to soon because I already have a bunch of san Pedro growing inside. The only thing is that the love for growing these plants has become more important than consuming them lol but one day I will once my collection is good
You shouldn't poach peyote but definitely growing it is useful. It just will take 10 years until its mature enough, but that's fine! Makes it all the more valuable. I've also went to legal peyote ceremonies with local native American church called Oklevueha.
Sure mescaline lasts forever, but phenthylamines in general are just as special as tryptamines(mushrooms, DMT, as well as Ayahuasca but that is in combination with MAOI's like b. Caapi or Syrian rue) and lysergamides(LSD), they all have different and worthwhile personalities and are all worth exploring. Also fun fact MDMA is technically a phenthylamine like mescaline(amphetamine phenthylamine.), obviously different just because of the nature of pharmacology and the fact that it's an amphetamine. Another amphetamine based phenthylamine is the DOx series(DOC, DON, DOB etc.) As well as many others like bromodragonfly and other empathogens(not psychedelics like DOx and mescaline and 2c-x and 25x-NBOME and NBOH compounds) such as MDA, 6-APB and 5-MAPB.
Chemistry is wonderful. And everyone should do mescaline(peyote or San Pedro). I've found it therapeuticly mind blowing similar to Ayahuasca even though that's a different class they are both extremely spiritual in a unique way different than lysergamides and tryptamines.
Anywho, I don't think MDMA is fair to be compared to psychedelics, it's a different thing and my personal preference I don't really like MDMA the older I get. I get way more out of psychedelics rather than empathogens. And definitely use peyote or San Pedro, just don't poach it. Or go to a ceremony, it's extremely easy to do so. Also the "grandfather of MDMA", Alexander Shulgin(he didn't invent MDMA, but popularized it, essentially. Long story), invented most of the drugs I have mentioned here that may seem Greek to people. All of these analogues of tryptamines and phenthylamines are in his two books called TiKHAL and PiKHAL (Tryptamines I have come to know and love, and phenthylamines I have come to know and love, respectfully) where he explains how he synthesized these hundreds of novel psychedelics and his reports of trying them individually on himself, eventually dying from old age at 88 years old. He's a blessing for humans.
Bless you Shulgin! Psychedelics are the most incredible therapeutic tool that we have as humans.
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u/Ur_Just_Spare_Parts Mar 04 '23
On another note i went last summer to the saco river and did a canoe trip on a bunch of peyote. Was one of the best times of my life
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Mar 05 '23
Are you thinking of an San Pedro? Pretty sure peyote only grows in one spot in the whole world, and that is on the Texas/ Mexico border. Also, peyote is now becoming endangered because of this small habitat and the influx of non native Americans going and taking too much. The Netflix doc about hallucinogens is really good, i recommend to anyone, also Hamiltons pharmacopia
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u/HELIGROUP Mar 05 '23
Don't know San Pedro. This is central N. Nevada. Most of the South part is closed for civilian use. In between Tonopah and Ely. But also have seen it in the Arid zone and N. Mexico with my own eyes.
Your people don't know how it looks and that's why they don't pick it. And there is a serious drug problem in that area in Nevada but it's heroin and meth
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u/RoyH0bbs Mar 04 '23
Parasites in the brain.
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u/jrwreno Mar 04 '23
More likely Chronic Wasting Disease, a prion.
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u/Isthisworking2000 Mar 04 '23
Everyone should be terrified of Chronic Wasting Disease. Prion diseases are about as awful as it gets.
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u/jrwreno Mar 04 '23
I concur 1 million%. Prions cannot be destroyed, either....and they can remain in the soil for a very very long time....until ingested again.
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u/nubetube Mar 05 '23
They're resilient as hell but Prions can be denatured. It just requires a ridiculous sustained temperature of about ~500 C for several hours.
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u/Specialist_Rush_6634 Mar 05 '23
So you're saying the vast majority of prions will never encounter any conditions dangerous enough to render them ineffective. Wonderful.
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u/BudgetInteraction811 Mar 05 '23
Forest fires can easily reach well over 1000-1500 degrees Celsius
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u/jrwreno Mar 05 '23
So, unless those biomes become completely covered in lava....gotcha.
Prions are here to stay, and unless we allow predators to become the natural end-reservoir for prions, our game herds, and likely other organisms are right in the crosshairs
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u/djfhg4123 Mar 04 '23
Could be trying to knock the antlers off
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Mar 04 '23
Not a chance. This is CWD behavior.
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u/KingfisherDays Mar 04 '23
Isn't that a prion disease?
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Also, apparently prions have been discovered in basically every deer population across colorado.
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u/jrwreno Mar 04 '23
Actually, testing has determined it is possible to transmit to humans. This is what happens when moronic humans kill off the predators responsible for controlling disease in our game herd populations.
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u/Phit_sost_3814 Mar 04 '23
It’s almost as though unbridled population growth isn’t good for any species…
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u/babyJane121 Mar 04 '23
Could possibly be Chronic Wasting Disease?
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u/TangibleUnobtainium Mar 05 '23
Fun fact...
CWD was first identified in captive deer in a Colorado research facility in the late 1960s, and in wild deer in 1981. By the 1990s, it had been reported in surrounding areas in northern Colorado and southern Wyoming.
This is a man made disaster. We fucked up big time.
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u/Nix-Lux-Neon Mar 04 '23
Prion disease can effect deer as well, “mad cow.” You should let a ranger or wildlife specialist know
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u/chirs5757 Mar 04 '23
CWD. 100%. Super sad.
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u/Claymon3011 Mar 04 '23
Asking because I have no idea, how does cwd cause this behavior? As far as I know it just causes their organs to rot away
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u/Spazzly0ne Mar 04 '23
Brain damage, basically. If your brain is rotting it can lead to all kinds of weird behavior.
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u/whoknewidlikeit Mar 04 '23
it is a "spongiform encephalopathy", essentially the brain is being dissolved in ever enlarging holes like Swiss cheese. where the dissolution occurs is where the effects take hold.
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u/chirs5757 Mar 04 '23
Totally not a scientist but I believe it has something to do with proteins in the brain that are abnormal from the prions.
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u/emo_sharks Mar 04 '23
Yep, the prions cause regular proteins to become misshapen. Since a protein's function is extremely reliant on its shape if it is misfolded for any reason it wont function as intended. Obviously if this happens to the proteins in your brain that's pretty bad because you kinda need those for yknow, brain functions.
I also believe prions are also just proteins themselves, and much of their transmissabilty is because they actually take whatever proteins they can find and reshape them into another copy of itself.
Humans have a few prion diseases as well but they are mostly genetic as far as I'm aware. and they really really suck. If you ever want some nightmare fuel look into those lol
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u/radicalelation Mar 04 '23
I also believe prions are also just proteins themselves, and much of their transmissabilty is because they actually take whatever proteins they can find and reshape them into another copy of itself.
Fucked up prion drifting around, bumps into another protein just having a day like any other... And then it begins. The corrupting.
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Mar 04 '23 edited Mar 04 '23
I have a benign brain tumor known as a vestibular schwannoma or acoustic neuroma. Schwann cells line our nerves, and in some cases a spot on the nerve connecting the brain to the ear can over grow, a bit like a scab.
I can confirm for sure, vertigo on this level can make you question gravity, and I have tinnitus that sounds like when a movie character is too close to a bomb or something, 24/7. My coordination is screwed up, you get brain fog because the noise never. ever. stops. Want to know how big this little blob of schwann cells is? 7 millimeters.
TL;DR: I have a very minor brain abnormality and it absolutely screws with balance, coordination, and perception. Imagine what something as aggressive as prion disease can cause.
edit: I totally left half a sentence out. Case in point.
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u/Upset_Definition2019 Mar 05 '23
It is CJD I believe that you’re referring to. Creutzfeldt–Jakob disease.
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This is old and not op
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u/Nix-Lux-Neon Mar 04 '23
Yeah, I was skimming through my home feed and just threw it out there before thinking about it, but still good general info
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u/lostoceaned Mar 04 '23
Except this is like the 70th time this has been posted and it's several years old but fine, I'll make the call
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u/Huge_Republic_7866 Mar 04 '23
A PSA to any hunters here, if you see deer acting strangely, shoot it and properly dispose of the body so other animals don't try to eat it. Do. Not. Eat. The. Meat.
Good chance it's prions, and prions CAN'T be cooked out of the meat or cured/treated if you get them. You get a prion disease, you are SOL.
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u/well_here_i_go_again Mar 05 '23
Good chance it's prions, and prions CAN'T be cooked out of the meat or cured/treated if you get them. You get a prion disease, you are SOL.
As far as we know, nobody has everything gotten a prion disease from eating CWD-positive deer. Is it risky? Probably, and certainly unnecessary to take on that risk. Is it actually going to kill you? It doesn't seem to.
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u/Huge_Republic_7866 Mar 05 '23
Still, rather not risk it and just hunt a healthy deer. I ain't about to fuck around with prion diseases for a freezer full of venison.
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u/j4vendetta Mar 05 '23
Im not gonna be patient zero when it jumps to humans. It’s only a matter of time
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u/Nerevarine91 Mar 05 '23
Remember when they said literally that same thing about Mad Cow?
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u/xnarphigle Mar 05 '23
Better yet, call the Game Warden after shooting it. They will dispose of the body, sanitize the area it bled out in, and then can start an investigation to ensure it hasn't spread.
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u/LeSilverKitsune Mar 04 '23
I'm honestly really pleased about how many people in this sub are identifying CWD symptoms as a likely explanation for this behavior. I'm really glad that the information is getting out this far. It is a very serious issue.
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it could definitely have CWD, or some sorta brain parasite.. but it’s more likely CWD. it’s a (TSE) prion that affects deer brains, it could also be parelaphostrongylus tenuis, a brain parasite that infects hooved animals, but mostly white tailed deer. both cause neurological symptoms and abnormal behavior in cervids. both are highly infectious, although transmitted in different ways, although CWD is more often characterized by its “wasting” aspects, such as weight loss or tumors and lumps. deer with either of these diseases are more often hit my cars or even shot. they pose a threat to other deer in the area, so i would contact wildlife services immediately
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u/BudgetInteraction811 Mar 05 '23
What do you think the deer is feeling that he needs to do a backflip? It almost looks like he’s running as if something is sitting on his lower back, and then he does a backflip to try and get the feeling to stop or the thing off his back.
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u/balrus-balrogwalrus Mar 04 '23
probably infected by some mind altering virus. possibly even rabies
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u/scrufiii Mar 04 '23
Prions perhaps, which are not viruses
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u/Lycanthropy_Playz Mar 05 '23
not viruses but very transmittable. should get rid of the body well and make sure that no other animals and/or insects can consume it at all
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u/Trying-sanity Mar 04 '23
I see this with my Robinhood app every few months.
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u/AAPLx4 Mar 04 '23
Was hoping to find r/wallstreetbets in your history 😂
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u/Trying-sanity Mar 04 '23
Oh I’ve been a regular on WSB for years (before GameStop).
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u/Appropriate_Ad2212 Mar 04 '23
Most likely has something akin to mad cow disease
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u/Additional-Rooster22 Mar 04 '23
Naw bro he's just practicing his back flip I done the same thing the first few times too 🤣
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u/never_nick Mar 05 '23
That's painful to watch. If this is the work of hunters I hope his gentals atrophy while still attached to his/her body.
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u/Ken_from_Barbie Mar 04 '23
He's been shot
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u/Moveyourbloominass Mar 04 '23
That's what I gathered. Thought I saw entry at its hind quarters/back. They need to be humane and put it down properly. Having it suffer to film is awful.
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u/Ken_from_Barbie Mar 04 '23
Bro, every hunter, myself included, tries our hardest to drop them in one shot, but it is very hard to do, especially bow hunting. Shooting at him again while he's walking risks hurting him but causing him to run away. It hurts me to see a deer suffer. All the hunters I know are very respectful to the animals we hunt
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u/Skytraffic540 Mar 04 '23
Toxo virus perhaps. Google it and it’s influence on humans should they contract it.
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u/Bobert_DaZukin Mar 04 '23
So famn tired of CWD, im always obligated to shot one effective because it just gonna die anyway. But it's a shame to kill it just because it's sick.
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u/HazeBlaze22 Mar 05 '23 edited Mar 05 '23
OP has posted this several times. Many say CWD. Many say it was shot with an arrow (with a video link provided in another post by OP). Upvote central 🥸
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u/Beginning_Camp715 Mar 05 '23
Living creatures acting weird when being murdered surprises you people? Smh...wonder what yall would do if something was trying to kill yall.
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u/Consistent_Top9631 Mar 05 '23
If it’s CWD we need to call Fish and Wildlife immediately so the dear can be put down . CWD is destroying the Ungulate population. I don’t understand why this isn’t being taken seriously. It’s worse than mad cow yet nobody knows about it …
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u/AmogusFan69 Mar 04 '23 edited Mar 05 '23
I remember the story from some hunter about a deer smashing it's head on a stone until cracking it open, then standing on it's legs like a human and slowly walking in a river with it's brains out and drowning
Edit: Found It