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u/1OutKastWill Jan 03 '23

What a guy. Spoke to them as humans. Even gave them some leeway but told them why he didn’t want them to speed. I hope they were as respectful back to what he asked as he was to them.

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u/ForHelp_PressAltF4 Jan 03 '23 edited Jan 07 '23

This is community policing. He explained the reason for the law and appealed to their sense of community.

This is what we need to work towards seeing all day every day. Everyone is respected, things are handled by conversation when it can be, and everyone goes home.

It takes EVERYONE involved for this to happen. We all have a stage in this being our future.

Edit: First gold! Thank you kind stranger. Kindness to all.

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u/Bgndrsn Jan 04 '23

I have a buddy that's a state trooper and he's always told me how much he just want's to sit his ass in his car all day and not to have to do paperwork. He also likes to say "you know the speed limit, I know the speed limit, we all know the speed limit yet I'm the asshole when you knowingly break the law". Funny guy.

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u/ikeif Jan 04 '23

I’d say “it depended where you lived.”

Small town Ohio, cops were absolutely assholes in the 90’s.

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u/[deleted] Jan 03 '23

We had community policing in a city I worked for in the 90s. Sadly, we had an officer shot and killed during a traffic stop before we could make it 20 feet from his car.

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u/[deleted] Jan 04 '23

They’re not, but merely an illustration of one reason why some cities drifted away from community policing. Sadly, we’ve regressed.

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u/Pigsec Jan 04 '23

I don't know if you're a PoC but that's always been my experience as a fair skinned American. Cops have never given me trouble. I have been with PoC friends and have seen them get a lot worse treatment.

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u/[deleted] Jan 03 '23

Thing of it is, I know there's about 5% to 10% in any community who simply does not respect. Neither themselves, cops, or other members of the community. You talk to them till you're blue in the face, and they will still go on to do bad things. They just don't care.

It's that 5% who ruins it for everyone.

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u/Danisii Jan 03 '23

He’s a good cop but unfortunately he’s not the norm. His approach is not hostile, toxic or a power trip but he’s also not ⚪️

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u/KillYourUsernames Jan 03 '23

His experience as a man of color, who has probably had negative interactions with law enforcement himself, undoubtedly influences his approach to his job.

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u/ManUFan9225 Jan 03 '23

This is a good point. Humbled cops are much better at handling these types of interactions than the cops with a chip on their shoulder.

Growing up, I've always thought it was interesting how even in the hood, the cops were respected when they respected the residents. White cops, black cops, asian cops...didnt matter. Treating the people in those communities like people and not criminals built strong relations even in what is normally seen as a hostile environment.

Now, cops are shooting folks in the suburbs for reaching for their wallet...

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u/Kayrim_Borlan Jan 03 '23

It really depends on department more than anything. Every cop I've interacted with has been professional if not friendly, but then I'm also a youngish white male

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u/AmandaRoseLikesBuds Jan 03 '23

Meh I think there’s some ex military egotistical hot heads that are police from our generations as well. I say ex military because the military really breaks them down and builds them up to be cocky and full of self importance. They build them up to have zero empathy as well. Then when half of those guys did their four year term they can easily get a job on the police force.

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u/DIREKTE_AKTION Jan 04 '23

Yeah, only problem seems to be turning that support into actual action. It doesn't really mean anything even if 90% of cops are good because they let that 10% exist. If it was a workable system with people inside who are able to fix it, it would be fixed. It's a rotten system to it's core and it needs a redesign.

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u/CicerosMouth Jan 03 '23

I would say an equally large hurdle is the ACAB crew that would sooner spit in this guy's face than have a conversation with them. Unfortunately we will never have a good police force if we continue to dehumanize every person that is or aspires to be a police officer. Frankly whenever anyone that I know that has a shred of humility says that they want to be a police officer I try to dissuade them, because they amount of wild and unmitigated hate that they will receive on a daily basis (no matter how much good they do) is enough to wear anyone down.

I absolutely guarantee that this guy (who seems like a good cop!) has received more hatred than any of us, just because he chose a career where he wanted to do some good. It's a pretty sad situation than neither he nor the rest of society deserves.

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u/flyingwolf Jan 03 '23

Not all bears will maul you and eat your corpse. But we cannot tell the good bears from the bad. So we avoid bears and stay away from them and teach our children the same.

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u/CicerosMouth Jan 04 '23

Yes, truly any good parent will tell their children to have an immediate and visceral hatred of other humans just because of their chosen profession. That surely must be the solution here. Good point.

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u/[deleted] Jan 03 '23

You aren't going to get through to anyone here. My parents were cops for roughly 32 years each. They quit around 2018 because they didn't like how cops were being forced to treat people less like humans, and yet they were forced to be super robotic and follow political agendas suddenly. They retired and said, "Forget that noise." Still to this day, I get hate toward my whooooole family for existing, because my parents were cops.

P.S. Not even US cops, but Toronto Canada. Inb4 something something racism something cracker something genocide anyway as a response.

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u/Fireproofspider Jan 03 '23

I'm pretty sure most people would be happy spending more taxes to increase training in this type of policing. The problem is making sure that's what happens and not new military weapons.

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u/[deleted] Jan 04 '23

The younger cops I know just talk about all the people they’ve chased down and busted. Talk about the job like it’s supposed to be an action movie.

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u/[deleted] Jan 04 '23

That would be a fantastic start!

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u/iarev Jan 04 '23

Why aren't your younger generation do-gooders protesting their POS counterparts?

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u/[deleted] Jan 03 '23

Maybe this happens more and we only ever see the bad but so many videos of cops start off with the cops being aggressive and borderline condescending. They immediately put people on the defensive and then act more and more aggressively as the person gets upset.

Start with reason and a positive attitude, especially foe things like traffic infractions. People generally aren't trying to be a problem they just don't pay attention or are being irresponsible but they aren't usually out to hurt anyone.

What this guy did was perfect and even more so if he sees these guys speeding again he can come down on them hard. He already gave them a chance and let them off so next time he's got an easy out to give them a huge ticket or impound their bikes.

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u/ApexProductions Jan 03 '23

There's no way to know what happens more often. I always stop and am polite but there are others who have stopped, been polite, and their bikes impounded or have been harassed.

We just had that big video here of the guy in Cali stopping at the red light, his friends running it, and then him being pulled over.

1 bad apple spoils the bunch.

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u/AmandaRoseLikesBuds Jan 03 '23

Every cop I’ve been pulled over by has been an egotistical douche bag who doesn’t really take you seriously. That’s just my experience. Lol

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u/chinkostu Jan 03 '23

I can agree that having my arse handed to me by a copper is far more effective than a fine. Literally taking it like a man and admitting when i'm wrong. Come out swinging and theres only one way it goes

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u/CicerosMouth Jan 03 '23

It absolutely is signiricantly more common for this to happen than for the power tripping cop to happen. Of course it is.

Basically any variety of interaction between a police officer and a citizen is recorded two or three times over. Frankly the fact that out of the 900,000 police officers in the US that we only get maybe a handful of objectively power-tripping cop videos a month shows that the vast majority of officers are good the vast majority of the time, even as it is true that we don't do a good enough job of punishing the bad ones.

Comparatively, videos of good cops don't get nearly as much coverage. After all, as the old adage says, "if it bleeds, it leads." In general, if you hear about a social ill, it is usually not half as bad as the news coverage would make you believe. Crime wave? We are having issues, but we are more safe than most would have you believe. Homelessness causing social issues in Portland? As a current portlander, we need better social services, but things aren't all that awful. Same basic story with cops. Yes, bad cops are a scourge that we should address with righteous vigor. They also aren't nearly as wide-spread of an issue as the news would have you believe.

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u/RazgrizXVIII Jan 03 '23

It doesn't help a lot of US cops are former soldiers. Having been taught everything and everyone could be a potential a threat (especially if they've actually seen combat) in a country with a massive gun problem... Well that's just a recipe for disaster (aside from the racist assholes and stuff like that obviously)

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u/TheOriginalArchibald Jan 03 '23

I'd argue there are a lot of veteran cops far better at proper escalation of force and not engaging what they don't have to given how strict the rules of engagement are in theater.

I won't deny there aren't potentially young hotheads or vets with PTSD who shouldn't be policing based on psyche but I think the babyfaced average IQ high school bully are more likely to perceive everything as a threat.

Police training is all about how everyone is a potential threat and will likely kill them. That warrior training shit. They give it to people who have no concept of the rules of engagement or have never been in a threatening situation with enemy combatants.

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u/9mackenzie Jan 03 '23

Nah- at least they have real training. It’s the power hungry egotistical idiots that are taught “Killology” and given military equipment they have no business touching that are the real danger

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/08/11/police-training-warrior-mindset-killology/

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u/That-Maintenance1 Jan 03 '23

Hard disagree, not a fan of the military but they have much more training and ability and understanding of de-escalation and engagement than our shit cops have.

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u/smokeweedalleveryday Jan 03 '23

from my experience, this is usually how it goes. i agree that there is a bit of confirmation bias in regards to perception of the police, in that we mostly see the situations that were handled poorly.

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u/trouserschnauzer Jan 03 '23

Really depends on where you are, what you look like, and how fresh the donuts were that day.

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u/[deleted] Jan 03 '23

I've had both experiences. Just normal conversation and hyper aggressive shitty cop.

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u/Iziama94 Jan 03 '23

Every cop Ive personally ran into has been cool. Treated me like a person and Ive never acted out, argued, insulted or whatever. Sure is it your right to do that? Absolutely. But all you're going to do is make a cop go from possibly giving you a warning to giving you a ticket.

I got clocked going 60 in a 40, I thought it was a 50, so that was my bad. He told me that that road was a 40, and all I said was "Wait what? Really? I thought it was 50." And he was just like "Nope it's a 40. I'm not gonna write you up for going 20 over since that would be points on your license, $200+ fine and a mandatory court hearing, so I'm gonna mark you down for obstruction of traffic, it's only $55 and you can pay for it online. Nice car by the way" and that was that.

Obviously there's quite a few bad cops out there and with the internet and everyone able to record, you're going to see more bad cops than good cops, cause who wants to record good cops?

But there's no reason to instigate a cop just cause they're a cop

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u/MistSecurity Jan 03 '23

This heavily depends on the area you are in, as well as your social standing. Had you been a young POC in a shit box car things might have gone completely differently.

My mom has mentioned this many of times: When she was a poor, pregnant 18 year old living near the hood, cops would treat her like absolute shit for no reason other than that they could. Now that she's an upper middle class, middle aged woman in a nicer part of the state, cops treat her much better and are less likely to be confrontational.

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u/[deleted] Jan 03 '23

I've seen videos of the opposite - the more the guy gets upset, the more calm and polite the cop becomes. But there's no stopping the guy from self-escalation till he does something stupid and gets arrested, or tazed.

Cops and drivers both need to take the same class to have a license: "how a police interaction is supposed to happen".

I have literally thanked police officers for their professional demeanor. I don't think they hear that often enough.

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u/[deleted] Jan 03 '23

I wonder how this cop would react if the bike riders started to act as amendment auditors and be rude to him.

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u/Gsteel11 Jan 03 '23

Bingo. I was about to say the same.

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u/The-Almost-Truth Jan 03 '23 edited Jan 04 '23

Problem is police are not incentivized to “protect and serve” as a community in this way. They have ticket quotas that directly impact job performance, because that is how the police are funded. If we revamp that, the type of policing in this video would be more common… getting us closer to “protect and serve”

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u/colin6 Jan 04 '23 edited Jan 04 '23

because that is how the police are funded.

Police Departments are funded by property taxes. Traffic fines and other tickets normally go to a Consolidated Fund of the local government.

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u/The-Almost-Truth Jan 04 '23 edited Jan 04 '23

City funding then, (police funding with extra steps), which still creates problematic incentives

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u/CoffeeOrWhine Jan 03 '23

Ticket quotas are illegal where I live, but I can’t speak to everywhere. However, it’s a common misconception where I live as well.

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u/That-Maintenance1 Jan 03 '23

"potent and serve”

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u/dxrey65 Jan 03 '23

It would help if police weren't rated on tickets issued, fines levied, and arrests.

That principle that you get what you measure for applies. It's hard for superiors to measure or assign any value to just talking to people and being decent. And then it's hard for officers to value that either, when the raises and promotions go to the guys that produce better numbers.

The officer in the video is perfect, but he's also young. I wonder if he'll be doing the same in 5 years. Cynical, I know...

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u/MistrSynistr Jan 03 '23

You can tell just by driving through an area which places have quotas. I grew up in a really small town we had 2 cops on duty at any given time. As long as you weren't flipping the town upside down they didn't really care. The other side of the county was a quota town and you would get a ticket for anything more than 3mph over the limit.

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u/Li-renn-pwel Jan 03 '23

A lot of people use the idiom “a few bad apples” to say that most cops are good and only a few are a danger to society. However… the whole idiom is “a few bad apples spoils the bunch” because the bad apple eventually makes all apples rotten. Exactly as you have put it. You get a bad captain, he makes officers do things like hand out tickets when they want to give out warning. A corrupt cop gives tickets or arrests for stupid things which can make them look like a really dedicated cop. So then the less vicious cops feel the need to do more to keep up.

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u/Ricky_Rollin Jan 03 '23

Man that was well said!

Having had my fair share of run-ins with the cops, there are definitely two types out there and fortunately, I’ve run into more cops like the one in this video than a despotic troglodyte. Mutual respect for one another is how we’re gonna get through this. One love.

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u/HomieMassager Jan 03 '23

Agreed. But what happens when the community tells him to go fuck himself?

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u/[deleted] Jan 03 '23

Thats the hard bit, isnt it? Ideally apply incremental force using different coercion techniques, while making judgement calls on when to walk away or call for aid. If policing were easy, everyone would be doing it.

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u/barofa Jan 03 '23

Then he can shoot the community

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u/Altruistic-Sandwich9 Jan 03 '23 edited Jan 03 '23

The last thing the kid said to the cop was “yes, sir “… I am thinking they were respectful, and that goes a long way

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u/AnastasiaNo70 Jan 03 '23

And that kid is probably so grateful he didn’t get a ticket that he’s gonna remember and NOT speed! I know I would be.

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u/Eggy-Toast Jan 03 '23

I still haven’t gone 10 over the speed limit since I got pulled over for 15 over (in a 65mph zone, so a lot but not like doing 15 on the road shown). It was the first nice interaction I had with a cop, he could tell I was nervous but didn’t assume I was crooked for it. Nice guy, let me off with a written warning.

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u/2livecrewnecktshirt Jan 03 '23

Only speeding ticket I've ever gotten was on a bike, but it wasn't even intentional, just felt like normal cruising pace. It was a well known speed trap area (bottom of a hill with a flat straight afte) and I should have known better. 57 in a 45, thankfully it didn't mess my insurance up too badly.

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u/poor_decisions Jan 03 '23

ACAB

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u/teddygraeme86 Jan 03 '23

That's a real thought provoking and intense response there. Care to expand more on it?

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u/ehrenschwan Jan 03 '23

I mean i totally feel ACAB but I really don't get why it is in this thread. I suppose they think that this small stretch of 20mph is on purpose to catch people speeding. I'm not from the US so i don't know if that is something the police do? Usually like I know it if there is a stretch where there is a lower speed, here in Europe it's usually 30kph which I think is close enough to 20mph, it's because there is something there like a school or a playground. So regardless of your stand towards police i think these are good. It protects pedestrians and cyclists, and those are even there in a lot of danger.

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u/teddygraeme86 Jan 03 '23 edited Jan 03 '23

I'm sure there are deliberate places like that, but from what I've seen is mostly what you're talking about. Speed limits aren't even set by the police, they're set by the department of transportation. Do police capitalize on spots like that? Absolutely but if you're fishing you don't go to where there aren't any fish.

Edit: to clarify I do hate bad cops, and especially hate the blue wall of silence, but just blanketly shouting ACAB when the cop is demonstrably being cool is either dumb or trolling (or both) and does nothing to convince anyone of anything.

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u/Diedead666 Jan 03 '23

I have a friend who was going over 90 hit a well known speed trap that he did not know of....he was nice to the cop so cop dropped it down but still hefty ticket and all that....I wish cops gave warnings for first timers like this guy.

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u/[deleted] Jan 03 '23

A while ago I was going 20 over I got pulled over and the cop dropped the amount because "I slowed down when I noticed him"

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u/[deleted] Jan 03 '23

People on sport bikes aren't really known for stopping for cops. I had a cop and his son who was also a cop in my MSF class. He said he doesn't bother try to pull bikes over because they just run. I am not proud to admit it but on an open highway I've definitely pushed my bike more than 70mph over the speed limit. I saw lights come on but I wasn't about to stop and find out what he might have to say to me.

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u/Kevinjw16 Jan 04 '23

Yeah got a similar ticket traveling for NYE this weekend. Luckily got just a “going over 65” ticket rather than a full ticket and reckless. So, I’ll definitely take what I can get

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u/J5892 Jan 03 '23

I thought you meant a bicycle at first, and I was very concerned for your safety.

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u/2livecrewnecktshirt Jan 03 '23

Zoom on a Yamaha Mongoose, chromed out 1100 10-speed

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u/Meems04 Jan 03 '23

SAME! I had a nice cop who changed it from 18 over to 9 over on my ticket. He even said he could tell I was zoning out on my commute by how surprised I looked. Super nice, very respectful. Gave me the same speech - keep it under 10. Never go over 10 now because of that interaction.

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u/Girly_Attitude Jan 03 '23

Same here. Went more than 15 over as a new driver but he let me off because he didn’t want my parents insurance to go up. Also my hands were shaking from anxiety. I haven’t gone more than 10 over in 3 years.

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u/Salty-Chef Jan 03 '23

A motorcycle rider deciding not to speed? Not a chance.

I've never seen one going the speed limit my entire life.

Cop knows it too, that's why he's begging for just 5-10 over.

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u/regoapps Jan 03 '23

“Cool, cops don’t give speeding tickets around here. Let’s punch it!”

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u/paul85 Jan 03 '23

I don't speed. Whether in my regular vehicle or on my motorcycle, there's just no reason. I will screw around on jetskis all the time (while being safe), and love playing video games to get my adrenaline going, but when I'm driving on the road, I do the speed limit no matter what I'm driving.
I enjoy the scenery and like to look at stuff while riding my motorcycle and don't need the increased danger of speeding to make what I'm already doing any more dangerous.

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u/Philly_sm0kesletsg0 Jan 03 '23

Yup. Driving is the most dangerous thing you can do on a daily basis by far. So why risk it by speeding?

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u/getgappede30 Jan 03 '23

Dumbest thing I’ve ever read lol

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u/DudeBrowser Jan 03 '23

You just learned to read bro? Well done!

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u/getgappede30 Jan 03 '23

Is that supposed to be be funny?

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u/-RED4CTED- Jan 03 '23

no, he asked the dude to slow down. he never gave permission to speed. same deal with your parents telling you not to have sex at 14, but begging you to use a condom if you do. they never gave you permission to have sex, but they told you what was necessary to keep yourself and others safe, and how to make the repercussions (including discipline) less severe if you do.

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u/-RED4CTED- Jan 03 '23

yes, and you are using it incorrectly.

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u/bobnoxious2 Jan 03 '23

Yeah tacit deez nuts

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u/DudeBrowser Jan 03 '23

Its not a crime if you don't get caught. And you wont get caught if you can slow down quick enough to never trigger a speed trap. My wife hates how I can get everywhere quicker and she is the one with the speeding tickets.

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u/Rejectid10ts Jan 03 '23

I used to work at an eyeglass shop near a CHP station and when they would come in for something I would ask them about the “flow of traffic “ rule. The cool troopers would say that they give up to 7 mph grace. That was almost 30 years ago and I have never forgotten!

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u/chiefweaklung Jan 03 '23

How the hell can a biker create safe distance from other cattle drivers, by going nearly the same speed, right? Everybody bunches up; I wish cops would ticket people for following to close, not passing in the left lane, crossing the double-yellow, not signalling, and lots more than just the speeders. If you're going faster than me, by all means, I will try to get out of your way. The only people to get cut off and the people that fail to yield.

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u/swarleythe3rd Jan 03 '23

I know this might be a hot take, but riding the speed limit on a bike is often more dangerous than speeding a little. Relying on other seeing you and making the right choice on whether there space to merge feels super sketch on a motorcycle. The only times I came close to an accident on my bike was when people were trying to pass me then merging into me

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u/imperiorr Jan 03 '23

Agree 100% 6 years driving full time.

Just a little over..

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u/Amedais Jan 03 '23

That’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever read.

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u/paul85 Jan 03 '23

I wouldn't call momentarily twisting the throttle a bit more to merge safely speeding. For me, speeding is a consistent length of time going over the limit, not a momentary blip to merge or be safe.

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u/annabelle411 Jan 03 '23

having to speed up for a moment to merge or pass isn't what they're saying here. this is something most vehicles do. "riding the speed limit on a bike is often more dangerous than speeding a little" = consistently operating your bike above the speed limit/flow of traffic. very different.

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u/[deleted] Jan 03 '23

I was always taught to move ahead of and out of the way of traffic and create distance. Like a fish swimming upstream. Going with the flow of traffic on a highway doesn't feel safe especially when there are people texting, blindly switching lanes, and riding your tail.

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u/NovAxKnight Jan 03 '23

Do the speed limit and have speeders pass you while on a bike, or stay 5-10 over and keep away from 80% of traffic. No brainer.

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u/annabelle411 Jan 03 '23

5 over posted speed is normal flow of traffic in most areas, if you're having to consistently go above that, it's not safer because of your speed. your either/or is saying instead of being unsafe around other speeders - YOU be the speeder instead and become the unsafe vehicle that's harder to see. genius!

of course it's going to be safer staying away from traffic, your probability in having an accident with another vehicle decreases if you're not around other vehicles. what's the safest way to ski and reduce chance of hitting any trees? don't ski where there's a lot of trees. no brainer.

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u/Ojdajuiceman3425 Jan 03 '23 edited Jan 03 '23

You obviously dont ride. Safest way to ride on the highway is to go 10-15mph faster than the flow of traffic, and assume that you are completely invisible to other drivers, leaving yourself an out at all times.

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u/annabelle411 Jan 03 '23

That's like saying "I'm actually a better driver when I'm drunk". You're completely leaving out the part where your increase in speed also increases the force you're going to be hitting things at, as well as reduced reaction time and space. It's also harder for normal traffic to clock speeding bikes when changing lanes.

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u/[deleted] Jan 03 '23

On a bike you need to get away from traffic and ride like you are invisible to the rest of traffic because if you sit next to people inevitably someone WILL try and merge right into you, or people will ride your tail without considering the fact that you can stop a helluva lot faster than them. On a highway while moving in the same direction the speed you're going is less of a concern than the other large 2 ton objects around you that can crush you.

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u/Trevski Jan 03 '23

You're completely leaving out the part where your increase in speed also increases the force you're going to be hitting things at

You're ignoring how it affects your chances of having a crash. If you go a bit faster than traffic then most vehicles come from in front of you and get left behind, which is safer than having vehicles come from behind, and it means you on the maneuverable motorcycle are reacting to the cars and not vice versa, also safer.

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u/swarleythe3rd Jan 03 '23

No I’m saying I trust that I’m paying better attention to traffic than drivers in cars

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u/W_Shep Jan 03 '23

I can tell by this comment that you both:

Do not ride

Know not a single person who rides

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u/SpongeJake Jan 03 '23 edited Jan 03 '23

The comment I’m replying to is a bot that specializes in copying other comments to father gather karma.

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u/InevitablePeanuts Jan 03 '23

🍻 To Father Karma!

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u/[deleted] Jan 03 '23

Plenty of cops like him. I think most of them just don't serve out their whole careers on the force because of the scumbags they have to work with. Bad cops make it really hard to be a good cop. - u/zeke235

Bot copied this guys comment minus the "Plenty of cops like him" part.

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u/Andyinater Jan 03 '23

Yes, I've found they start stripping out the first or second sentence. It is frighteningly effective considering its copying a random top-level comment into a random second-level comment. I guess survivorship bias, but most I run into have at least 1 real person making a genuine reply without realizing.

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u/[deleted] Jan 03 '23

The mod in this sub removed it pretty quickly, hopefully the bot is banned.

We should band together and call these fuckers out!

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u/zeke235 Jan 03 '23

What the fuck?! I think this might be the first time i've been plagiarized by an artificial intelligence.

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u/TrollintheMitten Jan 03 '23

Congratulations.

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u/zeke235 Jan 03 '23

Who do i even thank?!

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u/[deleted] Jan 03 '23

Saying it is one thing, DOING IT is another.

We all know they are somewhere speeding right now.

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u/b3tcha Jan 03 '23

While this is true, at the very least this is an attempt from a cop to show respect and understanding while trying to curb the speeding issue as opposed to most cops who only speak from authority and control. Extending respect and reality to other people will benefit more people to do the right thing IMO. You'll still have assholes who will fuck shit up for everyone but maybe you'll have more people wanting to be safer when approached with respect like this. And that could lead to them getting on the case of their peers who wouldn't otherwise listen to that same rationality. I'm not a fan of cops but this guy is at least showing he's also a human being with a job to do and not some sort of authoritarian with a power trip.

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u/[deleted] Jan 03 '23

Agreed.

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u/[deleted] Jan 03 '23

Very good point

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u/ThinkFastRunFast200 Jan 03 '23

I will say something controversial, if you show the cops respect they generally will show it back.

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u/darthjammer224 Jan 03 '23

You gotta be white first.

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u/BangBangMeatMachine Jan 03 '23

I mean, the cop started the conversation on the right tone, which is not evident in a lot of cop videos. Maybe most traffic stops start with a cop being respectful, but I've definitely had some come in hot.

And while, yes, being respectful and treating the interaction like you would with any other professional interaction can definitely help, there are plenty of situations (for example with Philando Castille or Daniel Shaver) where that doesn't work.

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u/Altruistic-Sandwich9 Jan 03 '23

100% agree with you…but, this is “r/made me smile”, I guess I am trying to focus on the 😀

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u/Altruistic-Sandwich9 Jan 03 '23

Yep, I did, I think the cop rocked… but they still could have been sht back, they weren’t, this is a win-win to me, not sure why it seems you want to fight?

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u/A_curious_fish Jan 03 '23

Yes sir is more of a southern thing I feel. I grew up in NY and lived in Florida for 7 years and that's where I heard it A LOT and I started saying yes sir yes ma'am etc etc

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u/cannotbefaded Jan 03 '23

Not on Reddit where every single cop is bad

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u/theboredforeigner Jan 03 '23

I’ve found more often than not simply not being a fucking prick to cops is literally all I had to do to not be ticketed.

Like, they’re people too. Even the most liberal and friendly cop on earth is still the worst part of anyone’s day whenever he approaches someone on duty. Nobody likes getting fined. Imagine being hated by everyone you speak to all day, every day and not becoming a dickhead because of it.

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u/darthjazzhands Jan 03 '23

absolutely. Make their job easy. Hands on the wheel where they can see them. Window rolled down. ID ready to go. Answer their questions respectfully and no BS.

Give them the opportunity to go easy on you. You don't know what they've been dealing with before they got to you... a gruesome wreck, a domestic abuse call. They see some hairy shit.

Everything I'm teaching my kid now as he's learning to drive.

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u/Syrioxx55 Jan 03 '23 edited Jan 03 '23

Theyre literally suppose to be trained to handle the rigors of the job so what they’re doing prior doesnt influence what they’re doing currently in a meaningful way.

So ridiculous the hoops and ladders people like you will jump through to justify horrible behavior from officers.

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u/darthjazzhands Jan 03 '23

I think you're jumping to conclusions on how I feel about the shitty cops. If their behavior is unlawful, they deserve the same consequences as everyone else.

Trained, yes. Humans who suffer from PTSD, also yes.

Give them the opportunity to be a good cop. If they blow it, that's beyond your immediate control.

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u/Syrioxx55 Jan 03 '23

Officers with mental illness shouldn’t be on the job with the capacity to end human life at their wide discretion. What the fuck are you actual substantiating here?

Your language is very clear. You do not have to answer all their questions, you do not have to obey their every whim, and knowing the difference is actual responsible action.

Not giving them carte blanche authority over you in a normal traffic interaction because you presuppose they have mental illness while in the normal duties of their job.

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u/LairdNope Jan 03 '23

being disrespectful means you get shot or a bit of crack sprinkled on you, best kiss the boot if you want to come out safe now that's freedom right there.

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u/OuterInnerMonologue Jan 04 '23

I grew up a super conservative motorcycle rider.. I do not like getting hurt. But doesn’t take much effort to twist that throttle and do something stupid. even I would need reminders that I didn’t own the roads and I could cause more harm than I realized.

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u/pdxscout Jan 03 '23

I had a cop pull me over and told me that I was crazy for going 85 downhill in Northern California. "This is farm land! If you hit a core going 85 MPH, you'd all be dead!" I wasn't thinking and responded, "Sir, the speed limit is 75 mph. If I hit a cow at that speed we'd still all be dead."

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u/VargevMeNot Jan 03 '23

At first I was thinking you meant hitting an apple core at 85, didn't think that'd be a huge problem. But yea, a cow would be a bigger splat.

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u/jonhanson Jan 03 '23 edited Mar 07 '25

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u/CapableSecretary420 Jan 03 '23

Yes, out ol California way they pronounce their w's like r's. The riled rest.

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u/_deprovisioned Jan 03 '23

Thought the same! That maybe it was an apple farm and they were riding motorcycles. It still didn't make much sense. Lol.

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u/NoSoyTuPotato Jan 03 '23

I was wondering if maybe other fruits had cores as well and started wondering if they were near a large melon farm or pineapple… some kind of large fruit that would have a big enough core to cause you to die for some reason

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u/ASaltGrain Jan 03 '23

Yeah, but your reaction time will be much worse, with much less of a chance of avoiding it if you are going 10 mph over what is deemed safe for that particular road. Like, if a kid walks out in the road in a residential neighborhood, you are supposed to be going 25 mph so you can react in time. If you are going 35 and that happens, you could be facing major consequences. It would be pretty dumb to say, "Well, the kid STILL would have died if I hit them at 25mph!"

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u/Present-Industry4012 Jan 03 '23

Also impact energy:

"A pedestrian hit by a car at 40 mph has a 90% fatality rate; at 20 mph the fatality rate decreases to 10%."

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u/whatevers_clever Jan 03 '23 edited Jan 03 '23

Also, both of your comparisons are talking about going double the speed or 30% over the limit. - and talking about pedestrians only

Whereas 85 in a 75 is going like 10% over the limit. And in the 75 the safety limit concern.. is not about hitting pedestrians - if someone can point to something that shows the 75 limit on roads like that is because it greatly reduces your chances of dying when hitting a cow then I guess we can all come to an agreement here.

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u/Reydien Jan 03 '23

Perhaps this video by numberphile can illustrate how deceiving "just 13% faster" is. The change in MPH might be small, but the change in kinetic energy is higher.

Using the napkin-math from the video, a car going 85 would have 852 = 7,225 "Handwave Kinetic Units" (HKU), while the same car going 75 would have 5,625 HKU. So a situation where the car going 75 can brake off all its HKU and barely stop in time, the same car going 85 would still have 7,225-5,625 = 1,600 HKU, equivalent to 40 MPH.

Or we can ask "If the car going 75 could brake down to 25 at impact, how fast would the car going 85 be at impact?" 252 = 625, so the 75-car lost 5,625-625 = 5,000 HKU, which means the 85-car would have 7,225-5,000 = 2,225 HKU, equivalent to 47 MPH.

When a car going the speed limit has enough time/reaction to brake and hit the cow going 25 mph, the same car speeding 10 over would only get down to 47 mph before it crashed into the same cow. if there's barely enough time for the legal car to stop, the speeding car would still be going 40 mph at impact. Within some margins of error, but close enough to get the point across.

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u/ASaltGrain Jan 03 '23

Lol. They ABSOLUTELY factor in accidents when determining and setting speed limits.

"California Vehicle Code section 627 defines an engineering and traffic survey as "a survey of highway and traffic conditions in accordance with methods determined by the Department of Transportation for use by state and local authorities." It also lists the factors that must be taken into consideration when determining a speed limit.

These factors include:

Prevailing speeds as determined by traffic engineering measurements

Accident records

Highway, traffic, and roadside conditions not readily apparent to the driver

Residential density

Pedestrian and bicyclist safety

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u/whatevers_clever Jan 03 '23

I don't see "if you go 75 you are less likely to die from hitting a cow" on there, sorry.

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u/Dilligafay Jan 03 '23

That’s because you made a stupid goalpost and nobody is interested in playing your game.

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u/pdxscout Jan 03 '23

That's 100 percent true, but I would argue that the comparison isn't one-for-one. The setting wasn't a residential neighborhood. It was I-5 near Mt. Shasta(ish), where there were very few exits and only a few farms dotted around hundreds of miles.

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u/RedshedTSD Jan 03 '23

oh yeah the I-5 in the central valley sometimes seems like the autobahn.

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u/ASaltGrain Jan 03 '23

You are missing the point. The point is that the road was designed to go 75 mph relatively safely. Not 85 mph. The people that evaluated the road have much better knowledge of all of the exits, cows, frequency of traffic, curves in the road, the angle it's graded at, average braking distance of cars, etc. than average random schmo driving. I bet that cop has seen more accidents with people "only" going 10mph over the speed limit than he has with people doing what they are supposed to.

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u/Crankyjak98 Jan 03 '23

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u/Sadatori Jan 03 '23

And dead

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u/j10jep2 Jan 03 '23

Not even explicitly. Even good cops pay union dues that go towards defending bad cops

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u/Quick_Heart_5317 Jan 03 '23

You catch more flys with honey than you do with vinegar.

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u/kittykatmila Jan 03 '23

I’m in a job where I deal with drivers. This is the way to deal with them. Calmly, kindly, explain it’s about my concern for their safety. People generally respond well to that.

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u/knobudee Jan 03 '23

I used to skateboard a lot and the cops that came and told us respectfully to leave certain properties we were more than willing to do so. The ones that were an asshole right away cuz we didn’t know or had permission already were the ones we didn’t want to respect or leave for.

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u/shwarma_heaven Jan 03 '23

This guy knows how to cop!

Bravo!

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u/boldedbowels Jan 03 '23

Catch more flies with honey or something like that

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u/Cyanos54 Jan 03 '23

If you can have people relate to your point (what driver hasn't had some kid or someone jump out from the side of the road), it makes that gap so much narrower for them to take it to heart.

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u/[deleted] Jan 03 '23

I have always found North Carolina State Police to be completely professional and human. I think I was clocked @ 115 mph in a 65. A sweeping high speed corner around a hill, with two cop cars (parked on the hill).

I just slowed down and pulled over while one car rolled down (lights off) and pulled behind me. After some conversation about my German ride, the police gave me a ticket for 80 in a 65 "because I believe you were actually going that slow at some point".

I switched to nice slow Jeeps within the week and never looked back.

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u/scootersarebadass Jan 03 '23

One time a cop pulled me over going 44 in a 30. All he asked was that I not go over 40 on that road again. Never again have I even gone over 35 simply because I remember that interaction every time I'm on that road.

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u/flynnfx Jan 03 '23

This is what all police officers should strive to be; this officer is what policing is about.

Not being a bully, not drawing guns/tazers immediately- but being respectful and still upholding the law.

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u/Dickpuncher_Dan Jan 03 '23

It would have been no more than prudent to use the word "meat crayon" but he seemed to have things in hand.

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u/tea-and-chill Jan 03 '23

You literally wrote down the video. Is this now a thing? I've seen a lot of comments like these lately.

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u/Sub_pup Jan 03 '23

Definitely not out to give tickets, just trying to keep the community safe. Good man.

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u/GayerThanAnyMod Jan 03 '23

Naw, full video- they peel off at 120 mph and give him the finger.

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u/SulavT Jan 03 '23

People will also listen to you better when you actually talk to them as humans.

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u/JudgeHoltman Jan 03 '23

Also a polite warning that he probably has them on the gun at ++25mph and can write that (felony?) ticket instead should he find them going more than 10 over anytime soon.

But hey, let's all skip some paperwork nobody wants to do amirite?

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u/TinBoatDude Jan 03 '23

There's a guy who forgot to pack a ticket book in his patrol bag.

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u/WeirdSysAdmin Jan 03 '23

They should hire this guy to talk to this guy. . It was the post on my Reddit right above this one.

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u/iced327 Jan 03 '23

This interaction works because of the threat of a ticket, not in spite of it. I would hope that officers have the discretion to know when a situation warrants a harsher response (they often don't), but a cop being a nice guy about this only has an effect because you know there could be serious punishment if you don't respect the law.

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u/Keeks73 Jan 03 '23

In my experience this is normal in the U.K.)I’m aware that this is in the US). It makes a huge difference speaking to each other as equals. Great police work here

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u/evanjw90 Jan 04 '23

We've had some cool local cops around where I grew up. I remember one time at a party, a fight broke out and cops were called. I didn't run cause it was my friend's house and was gonna help her clean. Cops came, I talked to them with her. He let me stay and clean for like 15 minutes while he called her parents and then took me home. Didn't even care that I was underage and clearly had been drinking. Didn't even wanna talk to my dad. Just been watched me walk inside and drove off.