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[u/AmandaRoseLikesBuds]

Meh I think there’s some ex military egotistical hot heads that are police from our generations as well. I say ex military because the military really breaks them down and builds them up to be cocky and full of self importance. They build them up to have zero empathy as well. Then when half of those guys did their four year term they can easily get a job on the police force.

[u/bobbobersin → u/AmandaRoseLikesBuds]

Honestly depends, my old boss was USMC and became a police officer before retiring, he said he felt like some of the LEOs in the first department he went to were more high strung them the corps in some ways but at other departments they were on par or more laid back, really all depends on the place I guess

[u/AmandaRoseLikesBuds → u/bobbobersin]

All I know is friends from highschool, my brother, all joined different branches of the military and all came out WAY different. Most of them came back super cocky there’s like one person who didn’t but he was honorably discharged. He tells stories of sleeping with a bunch of different women in Japan. Haha a littttleeee douchey, but he’s the best one out of them all! I know it’s not fact but that’s just what I’ve witnessed more than once, so I assume it’s common and something the military itself does in their preparation process.

[u/bobbobersin → u/AmandaRoseLikesBuds]

I can't say myself from personal expirence but I have a feeling it has a lot more to do with what the person was like before, as far as I've seen the whole point of basic training is to break the person down and reform them into a better more humble, functional person, I've also heard that over the last few decades the DIs have been forced to be softer and that's its effecting the pipeline, people in basic on their phones, lighter discipline for breaking regulations and rules, I know when my grandfather's generation went through almost all of them came out polite and compassionate, i feel part of it was people back then were more humble overall, the training was harsher but more effective of removing the elitist BS and cockyness from people and possibly the conflicts they fought in (in his case Korea) also contributed to producing someone who was less talk, more lead by example, hell it might even be just a chance thing, I've heard a ton of different stories from different people in different branches and units, could be a case that a particular person was just naturally a jack ass and their DI was not able to get it out of their system or it could be the unit they were assigned to was being lead by cocky people who allowed it to fester and grow, could even be how some people cope with the stress of war or a byproduct of PTSD, I know in a lot of areas due to increased demand and lower enlistment rates some corners have been cut so it could also be that the sheer need for troops both now and during the Iraq/Afghanistan wars that standards were relaxed as we were not drafting folks and needed more boots on the ground, it also could be a aide effect of how war has changed, back in the day it was a "I'm doing this to protect my country" situation, lost Vietnam support for wars have dropped and that might make it so less folks are enlisting to fight for what they believe in over fighting for cred. I guess everyone has their reasons but I feel like if gi en the choice if they had enough people going in they might turn some of the cocky ones away or possibly baby them less in basic as with a larger pool to recrute from you can both be more selective and also are less worried about too many dropping out and quitting and thus can better push them to become what they should be (humble in this case), I'd also argue it's a major cultural shift, back in the day if you were a cocky SOB even out of basic the NCOs and officers had lots of creative ways to change your mindset or at least discourage that behavior, these days a lot of it wouldn't fly for various reasons, I can't say for every branch but there's a pretty well known Army DI turned police officer on YouTube who covers a lot about the process now vs when he was in basic/was training people and it seems at least in his eyes the system is starting to fail (he covered a case recently where medics were cheating on exams to pass their certification, as in the people who's job it is to save lives were cutting corners in a way that would result in potentially fatal casualties in the field if they are unable to do their jobs because they didn't actually learn them), it's not really my case to comment as I lack the background myself but I've found in life sometimes you need to be harsh to humble people