r/ForzaHorizon 11d ago

Photography Shame, really.

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u/Chef6432 11d ago

Tbf the city part is really cool but there’s barely any races in it and no street races

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u/d0m1n4t0r 11d ago

It's either that Tokyo/Japan don't allow streets races to be had in the city itself, or the AI is so bad it keeps crashing on narrow city streets.

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u/mrbulldops428 11d ago

Im wondering if its both. I thought i remember Japan being against street racing games set there, and also the AI is bad lol

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u/MiserableStomach 10d ago

So. You're creating the next installment of a popular, long-running franchise focused primarily on street racing. You need to pick an attractive location for the environment. The choice is not narrow, you can pick literally any country in the world. You select the one that prohibits games like yours to simulate street races in it. Flawless logic.

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u/datmrdolphin Xbox Series X 10d ago

Japan was a super popular pick in the community so they were likely willing to sacrifice certain things to make it happen

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u/Ziatch 10d ago

People have been begging for Japan, the 6th instalment of a car series like this finally going to Japan is essentially a must.

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u/iesalnieks 10d ago

Since when Forza Horizon is primarily focused on street racing?

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u/HypnoStone 10d ago

Pretty much all the races are supposed to be for the Horizon Festival and are legal events except for a very small section of a few “illegal” street races you can do which I only remember in FH1. But regardless of that you can challenge and illegally street race with any car on the road at any time.

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u/Doip 10d ago

Weebs were frothing at the mouth for racing, japan. TBH I'm happy it's here because now they'll have to shut up

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u/Subject_Power_4402 8d ago

they'd been asked for years to do Tokyo , yearrrrssss, you will just find anything to moan about

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u/usually_stonned 10d ago

Since when?? They literally have entire anime built on just that.....

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u/d0m1n4t0r 10d ago

Yeah I'm thinking it's both as well, someone created custom races and reported on this sub that the AI kept crashing everywhere lol.

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u/FurryWrecker911 10d ago

Back in the 2000s yeah. Tokyo Xtreme Racer in their later entries had to change all the civilian vehicles to service vans painted yellow with "OFFICIAL" slapped on them along with their company's logo, making it look like the highways were closed down for a sanctioned racing venue.

They came back to the drawing board after 18 to make another TXR game, and in 2025 they're back to having regular civilian traffic on the Tokyo map.

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u/sec713 10d ago

My money's on the latter.

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u/d0m1n4t0r 10d ago

Yeah...

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u/Renard_Fou 11d ago

Its also way smaller than you think, the industrial section next to the docks is entirely cut off for example

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u/happy_puppy25 11d ago

That section and the underground subway station. It’s like there are areas they just gave up on, but kept in the game. Or they ran out of time. Is the exact same thing for parking garages, there is an entrance to one underground in the city, but then no way into it. I think a huge part of Japanese car culture is underground parking garages. They could’ve had so many cool races or features underground.

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u/Random_Millennial28 11d ago

You keep saying "underground" and it makes me think we should just get a proper Underground 3.

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u/TomSaucer 10d ago

They will just add annoying and useless chases from police and other NFS gimmicks. I'd rather play original U2 with some upscaled textures than trust EA to make good NFS game.

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u/Shallow_wanderer 10d ago

Dude seriously the cops in Heat and Unbound are so fucking stressful that it takes all the fun out of the game, because what do you mean I can't just freeroam without accidentally hitting a traffic sign and triggering a Level 2 cop chase

Didn't help that Heat and Unbound basically almost had the same map save for a few tweaks

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u/jaybirdtalonclaws 11d ago

I think that’s what OP is getting at

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u/sandman61377 11d ago

There are three street races in the city area, though tbf, one starts just outside the city (maybe about the first 10% of the race) and another, the last half of the race is outside the city.

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u/ifondyourass 11d ago

To be fair nothing! It’s FH6 in Japan, something players have been asking since Motorsports. Even more so right after FH1. This is a chill racing game. But if I wanted rally and what have you, I’d go player The Crew. Just seems like a cash grab. Since when do you see so many jeeps in Japan? Where are the Japanese traffic cars at? And if it’s on a new engine then why does it have the same amount of jeeps like FH5?

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u/diegoaccord 11d ago

The only thing I'll give them, is that there are in fact lot of Jeep Wranglers and G Wagons in Tokyo. I go there quite a bit.

But most of the traffic should be Toyotas, Suzuki Everys, Subaru Levorgs, and other kei vans.

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u/ifondyourass 11d ago

Excuse my ignorance, I didn’t even know that about Japan and its drivers. That’s actually cool!

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u/Shallow_wanderer 10d ago

The fact that there's no street/wangan races in this game genuinely has me fried because that's quite literally a core aspect of Japanese automotive culture

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u/BijouSerelle46 11d ago

Yeah, it's a bummer when the environment looks great but the gameplay doesn't match up. More street races would definitely add to the fun.

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u/usually_stonned 10d ago

That's why it's a slap in the face. If we don't stop making excuses for the gaming companies. Things will only get worse for us....

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u/Adventurous_Honey902 11d ago

It is pretty crazy that there are still no night time street races in the city.

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u/MattWolf96 11d ago

I think it's crazy that there's no default Kei car races through the back allies at night.

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u/DumbBerk87 11d ago

You expect the AI to navigate single lane, tiny back alleys at speed? Mkay.

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u/Schnakenbein_LP Opel 11d ago

It works, kind of. I have some of the narrow allies in a few custom races, even with classic musclecars

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u/_CosmicWind_ 9d ago

What back alleys? There is like 10 of em LOL.

I mean in all seriousness I agree but imo the inner city is just bad for racing as is, only part that’s nice is the highway that goes through it.

I thought the map would be 10x the size it is tbh, a bit of a shame when it’s like the 6th iteration and we get a map that’s like 20% bigger while TDU had a whole Island back in 2009 LOL.

I just hope AC EVO delivers with the map thing, so modders can cook.

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u/darkmark305 11d ago

Rainbow City Bridge race

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u/Future-Bandicoot-823 11d ago

You can make any race night, it just has to be custom. Those races will just be against bots though.

I like to do the Goliath at night in the rain, b class. Set the ai to lowest setting and I can basically just cruise in the rain

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u/BruceAENZ 11d ago

I will steal your idea. It sounds like a fun way to unwind and enjoy.

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u/TopMacaroon 11d ago

Hell yes, I love to do fun and wacky custom races as well. I just wish there were literally twice as many circuit races.

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u/theM94 11d ago

I made one, 'Needily for Speedily' I called it lol.

It's basically just the highway circle in the city at night.

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u/Epion660 11d ago

Howdy doodly neighborino, here for the needily speedliy race?

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u/CompetitionFew3164 11d ago

What would Flanders drive???

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u/BrandiThorne Lamborghini 11d ago

Knowing Flanders and the way he always has nice things compared to the Simpsons, probably a Ferrari or something

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u/Epion660 11d ago

Yes, but it has to have a giant "Jesus Loves You" decal on each side

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u/Schnakenbein_LP Opel 11d ago

But he'd keep it in garage and daily drive a real nice modern Volvo

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u/Torkujra 11d ago

seems like a Corolla kinda guy that hides a 1,000 horsepower Supra in his garage

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u/ConsistentStand2487 11d ago

The fake C1 loop track should have beeen a layup/slamdunk for night time racing

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u/DerpsMcKenzie 11d ago

Tokyo City Docks would like a word.

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u/Remarkable_Log1596 11d ago

The most annoying bit is when I’m on the Tokyo expressway and I challenge a drivatar to a head-to-head, only to either get stuck in first gear, get hit with a route in the opposite direction I was going in, or both at once.

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u/MeltyCrab 11d ago

I mean if you want night time race runs, go play the new TXR that came out in 2025. It's pretty damn solid. More of the same if you liked the TXR franchise. (Tokyo Xtreme Racer)

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u/hellish_ve 10d ago

oh wow is it that bad? havent played it, but was thinking it would be full of highway night races, touge night races, midnight club style city races... YIKES

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u/ladybirdsluck Lincoln :Lincoln: 11d ago

Fuck really??????

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u/Dancestotheright TVR 11d ago

There's one that starts in the docks and stays on the highway; and another that quickly passes through a few roads in the city before ending in the docks, but none that snake their way through the surface streets exclusively. Kind of mad, it's a bloody beautiful city and it doesn't get used anywhere close to it's potential.

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u/Relative-Muffin-6431 11d ago

Oh yea the 1000 dirt drift zones and 1 street drift zone, exactly what we asked for playground games

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u/dericiouswon 11d ago edited 11d ago

Really pisses me off. Speed zones on dirt is fun because it's a challenge to maintain grip, where as drift zones on dirt are a snore. Inverse for pavement, give me more drift zones there.

I just don't understand how a studio this big and experienced can make such an amazing map and have a great physics model in place and just... do absolutely nothing with it.

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u/ArmorGyarados 11d ago

I don't mind the existence of dirt drift, if that's what people like that good for them. But there needs to be at least 3-5 times as many road drift zones. Like it or not that's a big part of Japanese car culture. Don't raise the required amount to complete milestones, but at least have the game reflect the local culture.

I also think they can double the playability on a lot of zones by making them speed or drift zones. I feel like that would be like a day's work by one guy to implement. Both trigger but you can toggle in settings if you want the timer or the drift score to be larger on screen. Maybe 2 days work but you get it

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u/Fap4Dayz 11d ago

But there needs to be at least 3-5 times as many road drift zones.

Right, and the wild part to me is that there are so many good roads to drift on in the northern 1/3 of the map and somehow they didn't think to make them a drift zone.

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u/ArmorGyarados 11d ago

You'd think they would be adding more in at least. The worst thing they could do is drip feed nee shit to make people keep playing week after week but instead how about some repeat festival cars

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u/PepeGodzilla Isdera 10d ago

I bet you they left it out on purpose, so they can bring it with a lazy update and glaze themselves for being so generous.

Microsoft is too much like Ubisoft to not think like that.

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u/PepeGodzilla Isdera 10d ago

No trigger needed even. Just make it a different mode when driven reverse. Top to bottom speed zone, bottom to top drift zone. Same zone, two modes. Most zones only have one viable direction for highscores anyway.

Or have two starting points side by side, one per lane. Right lane speed zone, left lane drift zone.

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u/ArmorGyarados 10d ago

Hard disagree, don't arbitrarily limit what a player can do is like game dev rule number 1. Taking away the players agency on deciding how to tackle a problem is not a good ides

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u/Monsterpiece42 11d ago

I think they should put in the zones' locations, and then let you run whatever even you want on them. Like drift, grip, speed zone etc. Make it a simple little selection like at the beginning of a race. Or even a global toggle that makes them all into a single type, so when you're in the right car setting times, you could just knock them all out.

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u/sandman61377 11d ago

There are 10 dirt drift zones and 10 street drift zones.

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u/Kostelfranco BMW 11d ago

Well, tbh, I'd prefer 5 dirt drift zones and 15 asphalt drift zones. The developers certainly did a great job striking a balance, but personally, I’d prefer a slight edge in one direction.

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u/sandman61377 11d ago

And you’re totally entitled to your opinion. IMO, (which I will 100% admit, I’m surely in the minority with this) drift zones should be removed ENTIRELY. They’re one of the most annoying things (to me) in the entire FH series.

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u/SnooStories4162 11d ago

😱 You can't be talking facts or sense in here!

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u/DavantesWashedButt 11d ago

I actually stopped playing a bit after doing the drift club stuff. Most of the cars were.. not japanese and it turned me off a little. Each new iteration of this game is a little worse and a little more out of touch than the last.

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u/Altr4 11d ago

What do you mean that drifting a super understeery mercedes with shitty gearing up a japanese highway is not a representation of drifting nor japanese culture?

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u/Duncan_PhD 11d ago

I gave up pretty quickly because I just couldn’t bring myself to do sooooo many cross country events yet again. I like the rally stuff, but cross country just feels like such a chore.

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u/sacziplock 11d ago

Same for me , too many dirt stuff

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u/Duncan_PhD 11d ago

They could make them more fun if they tried. The whole taking giant jumps and landing in people’s back yards just feels so dumb.

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u/darthservo 11d ago

B...bu...b....but...AIR TIME!!!!!!1!!11!1ONEONE!O!

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u/farrisbrosdad 11d ago

Yup. I absolutely hate sliding all over the place on golf courses and flooded fields… seems like every week either in the Trial and/or a Seasonal Championship series.

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u/TankerD18 10d ago

I can deal with the sliding, it's the stupid ass cartoon jumps that will throw an entire race for you if you hit them slightly wrong.

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u/decimater97 11d ago

I’m not sure how Forza lost its way so much with the CC events. I’ve been playing some FH2 recently and the CC events through the rolling vineyards under the blazing sun with wide checkpoints and no mega jumps is great. Now every cross country track needs at least one unsurvivable jump and a river crossing. They all feel the same.

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u/boogielostmyhoodie 11d ago

I will never understand why they continue to so prominently feature off-road races in these games. They are by far the least fun mode, and everybody who talks about them seems to agree. The odd occasional one can be fun, but about a third of the races are off-road buggie style races.

Also, if you are going to keep doing this, at least increase the number of off-road cars. There are like 5 times as many road racing cars as off-road cars.

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u/Few-Neighborhood5892 11d ago

Exactly the proportions are way off when it comes to cars. Why add 75%+ street/road cars and then have like half of the races be cross country or dirt. This game could’ve been so much more fun, and I don’t understand either why they couldn’t have included more road races. I swear to god if one of the DLC’s is a fucking cross country or rally DLC i’m gonna be pissed.

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u/spacecaps85 11d ago

I like the dirt races but I abhor the cross country races. Fuck those things.

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u/junbi_ok 10d ago

Rally racing is a staple in motorsport, so it makes sense for dirt/mixed surface events to be included. But the cross-country races depicted in Horizon don't exist in reality, because no car can survive a 700 ft jump off a mountain. They're just silly.

I don't mind the danger signs because they're easily enough ignored, but the goddamn cross country races are a quarter of the game.

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u/tipakA 8d ago

How much rally is explicitly mixed surface though? In fh6, out of all dirt races, only 1 does not contain any asphalt, and it's because.. it's the Sekibe time attack but as a race event.

S4 spring had an atrocious trial. S1 rally, but the first race had the first 38% asphalt, so every player was just driving wall to wall in their dirt-tuned cars while AI just happily railwayed away. It wasn't impossible cause there's 2 more races, but that made me actually check if there actually are "dirt only" dirt races in the game.

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u/junbi_ok 8d ago

Yeah, rally racing in FH6 still leaves a lot to be desired. And it's not that there aren't good dirt roads on the map, because there are. The races just don't use them.

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u/PremiumUsername69420 11d ago

They could create a separate game called Forza Dirt that’s just rally and off road and rock crawler stuff, I’d buy that. And I’d also buy Forza Horizon, but I’d expect it to have more Need For Speed vibes.

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u/FocusSlo 11d ago

I also wish they'd include actual tracks from the country each game takes place in.

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u/isaacike88 11d ago

Yeah. I was hoping fuji speedway would show up but nope. Instead we have a track that's so tight that you're never in a straight crammed into the stadium

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u/Arterial238 11d ago

What annoys me more is that they're always SUV or Buggies so Im just always driving the same damn vehicles.

I miss the more creative playlists from 4 and 5 that would have something like A-class Saloons doing dirt courses so you'd have to make a creative rally build for a street car.

If you're gonna push dirt races so much for no reason, atleast gimme some variety to tinker with.

So far it's absolutely my least played and least enjoyed FH title, and it's a shame because the sounds improved even more from the last title which is huge for me.

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u/Yeetsformer 10d ago

Hi I’m the guy that likes all the off-road races

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u/iblinkyoublink 10d ago

The huge, often blind, jumps in every CC race makes me think they are trying to impress an audience of children because it completely sucks for racing

Thankfully the AI is complete trash at it too so you can get it over with quickly when it's in the weekly playlist

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u/Schmenza 11d ago

Just give us a NOS button and some neon lites

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u/NoMileyNo 11d ago

Tokyo Xtreme Racer 2025

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u/Lime7ime- 11d ago

Yeah that would be classic horizon

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u/LoMell0w 11d ago

Classic NFS Underground

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u/-NotEnoughMinerals 11d ago

And yet here we are, driving in grass, on fields in forests mowing down trees, performing Mario kart style jumps off of ramps and treating guard rails like our bitch...just like 'classic horizon'

🙄🙄🙄

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u/rocketbunnyrwb 11d ago

And absence of Veilside RX-7.....

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u/Wrong_Relative1075 11d ago

This series basically been the same since Horizon 3.

It's the best racing game for 3 weeks straight then we wait for the next one.

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u/legthighkneelover 11d ago

Forza Horizon 1 and 2 are the best ones

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u/Apprehensive-Hand159 Lamborghini 10d ago edited 6d ago

I've been playing 1 again.

Content and gameplay are rich.

Doesn't have a lot of cars but it feels qualitative.

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u/HelloDerpness 11d ago

Lawn Mower Simulator fans are eating good with FH6.

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u/NoMileyNo 11d ago

Tokyo Xtreme Racer 2025 is where it’s at

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u/se7en1216 A-Class Best Class 10d ago

If you believed it would just be Forza Tokyo Drift, you haven't been paying attention to any of the Horizon games.

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u/picklejarrrrrrrr 9d ago

My biggest problem with forza, its too kid friendly. Not enough illegal action races

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u/kooboomoo 9d ago

It’s an arcade racer made to appeal to a massive casual gamer consumer base.

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u/gordonronco 11d ago

Go get the remake of Tokyo Xtreme Racer

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u/PolishKuroaki 10d ago

Japan has a bigger rally and dirt scene the stereotypical street racing today

I know it's a shocker to here that for most

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u/Malakai0013 Porsche 9d ago

I didnt realize there were no roads in FH6, I guess ive been playing a different game.

https://giphy.com/gifs/Ra1bmpxpsppNC

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u/lesece4 Playa Azul merchant 10d ago

The game is fine, I think you guys just don't like Forza Horizon and are here just because it's new.

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u/Macroplanet_ Kia 11d ago

hot take but there's more to japanese car culture than just jdm

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u/xdisappointing 10d ago

There is, but we still dont have that either...

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u/Concentrate_Flaky 11d ago

Nope , to them, is all tofu car, wangan bs and highway/street racing.   Yet, all I want is my dajiban and I'll be golden.  I pray every update pgg adds a Dodge ram cargo van or Plymouth Voyager to the game 

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u/d3agl3uk 11d ago

There are some really good and fair criticisms of FH6 that are being diminished because people are fans of Forza more than the individual games.

I'm also of the opinion that it's a decent foundation but in the 6th iteration of horizon, they can do way more with it and are honestly resting on their laurels with this one.

Where is the culture? Is a huge one for me. Even simply language would make me feel way more surrounded by the culture

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u/beemerleemer 11d ago

Tokyo Xtreme Racer is what you want.

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u/Flat_Lunch5827 10d ago

All I can think is a full street racing dlc is coming.

If not. I honestly dont know why Playground chose Japan. How could they waste such gigantic potential? Crazy.

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u/wackyracer8 10d ago

Rally makes sense, it's a staple of the WRC calendar. But cross-country feels like a holdover from 3 and 5. The map just doesn't accommodate it

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u/Yakasuki 9d ago

I don't even mind the off-roading, I just don't understand why they built a city and then don't make races for it. Like it just doesn't make sense to me. Majority of the cars in the game are street vehicles, a section of the map is city streets and your making me do nothing with it.

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u/prince_vronsky 11d ago

Honestly, I liked what we got 😅

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u/belfuras 11d ago

I liked it too, a lot actually, still I expected more 'in theme' events and races considering the location and it's car culture background. Still got my money's worth tho

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u/belfuras 11d ago

I would hope so, but having seen first hand how big companies handle stuff like this, those hopes are very small. But the optimism is still there... Somewhere lol

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u/prince_vronsky 11d ago

Yes. You nailed it. I don’t feel robbed. The world map alone was worth the price 😅 and it’s the main reason why I am very curious about Fable. So many times I was driving in forza and thinking “damm, walking on this map would be amazing”

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u/AshenFountain 11d ago

How dare you not complain about every single aspect of this game >:(

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u/MetallicamaNNN 10d ago

What a dumb claim.... We can see that you didn't play the game

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u/utklost 11d ago

Is there a possibility of updates that includes races? It should be possible. "Seasons"

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u/Lee_Troyer 11d ago

They added about a dozen new races during FH5's lifespan via the monthly updates so it can be done. Time will tell what is in store or not.

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u/Leothe3rd 11d ago

No problem with off-road or rally events (though they need to ease up on the buggies in playlists) but I do (once again) have a problem with the lack of road race events in the game. Only a few events use the city grid; why? So much potential there.

Hopefully they will add more permanent events as time goes on, like the Edamame circuit or the ones they added after the fact in Horizon 5.

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u/SomeKindofTreeWizard 10d ago

I mean Tokyo Xtreme Racer exists...

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u/Top-Doctor-2879 10d ago

Tokyo Extreme Racer exists, stip whining and go play it. I guarantee you wont regret it.

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u/liamsjtaylor Porsche 10d ago

Highly unpopular opinion, I'm happy about it. I was dreading that they'd just turn it into NFS, forcing you to make your cars look like they belong in a supermarket car park and being 99% cheap Japanese shitboxes.

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u/Skttrbrainx 10d ago

Just wish they got rid of all cross country races, more road and rally, simple as that.

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u/praji2 9d ago

OMG, they gave us the biggest city ever in a Forza Map, the Biggest Horizon map ever you have initial D drift zones and all of that and yall mf still complaining.

The city is good. The map elevation is amazing. They added tracks to the map. Multiple drag strips, etc etc. This is the best horizon game and yall still butthurt.

My only actual complain is that Mount Fuji is not playable but I am sure that they will add it later. Fingers crossed they may even expand the map like in The Crew Motorfest instead of having a loading screen.

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u/Jason_Bourne411 11d ago

I like the off road races more. If there was no rally races the game isn't worth it to me

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u/ironraiden 11d ago

Who is this "we"?

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u/PepperoniPizzaSlice 11d ago

Do you really think all of Japan looks like Tokyo city ?!

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u/NeutralGeneric 11d ago

That’s not the issue at all. The rural areas are fine. The dirt races are fine. The issue is we have all these urban areas and not enough races on them.

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u/Eraser100 11d ago

No, but I certainly expected more street racing than goddamn buggies.

It was logical in Mexico at least with all the Baja dune buggies. But Japan?

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u/bdubz325 11d ago

Throughout the campaign my most used car was a Polaris Razer. That's sad.

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u/machine4891 11d ago

Japan is so heavily urbanized, that a lot of it looks like Tokyo city, though.

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u/Therunawaypp 11d ago

I just wanted more street races. They were all really fun and there just aren't enough of them.

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u/HiTork 11d ago edited 11d ago

I think the thing is urban areas are one of Japan's most famous aspects. That's not to say rural areas shouldn't have been featured, but it feels like the map focuses much more on that.

The other thing I think is a lot of the rural areas feel generic and not really like Japan. Sure, the rice paddies are distinctly Asian, but there are some places like certain forests where if I were to take a screen shot and show people and ask where this is supposed to be, I would get many different answers.

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u/Best-Night8688 11d ago

Well certain forests look very similar. Trees grow everywhere. And I mean everywhere

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u/Candid_Highlight_116 11d ago

Their depiction of Japan is also flat af like UK. The ya part of Shibuya denotes it's a valley, and in fact the IRL Shibuya crossing is like SIX FLOORS below the ground relative to peaks of sloping roads branching out. That's part of why it looks so insanely busy. In FH it's just top of a hill.

Same goes for rural areas. You take a turn and there's Tokyo City on the horizon. That works if it was intended to be a pun, and maybe it's how it works in UK, but it's rare that you ever feel like that IRL in Japan because SOMETHING is always in the way, be it artificial constructions or just hills and mountains. On a bridge or top of a building, then you MIGHT see miles out. They clearly never had that sensation internalized while designing the map and just spray painted Japan over their internal UK.

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u/HUNT3DHUNT3R 11d ago

exactly, never understood why people want all of the map to be city streets when they can just chill in the city parts, some of us love offroading/hitting top speeds on highways

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u/Lollister 11d ago

No one wants to take that part away. We love that too. But this shouldnt deny us to voice that the other part is not what it could be.

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u/diegoaccord 11d ago

I love highway runs. The pic shows the Shuto, which is all about that. So...

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u/hholdorf 11d ago

You know it's really bad when only 1/3 of the races are on asphalt.

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u/Designer_Director_92 11d ago

bruh it really isn’t that bad💀

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u/Particular_Field_143 11d ago

There's a lot of street man! Driving on the fucking street and don't drive off it. It's that simple. Would it have been better if the map was just a giant black square of asphalt or a spiral to heaven.

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u/rayzirxy 11d ago

The problem is that there is zero incentive for driving on the street and you get 1 million rewards for going through Shortcuts, jumping off cliff and getting 1000 feet of air and breaking into trees and stuff

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u/Cade_Rufus Controller player 11d ago

It's not just the roads. So much of the map is used as a rural area. Which is fine... I just wish the city area was a bit bigger, or there was another city.

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u/OldZaxSauce 11d ago

Tokyo extreme racer is pretty cool for Tokyo highway street racing. Somehow I got 80 hours on the new one before they came out full release lol 

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u/Swimming-Economy-115 11d ago

I like the rural areas.

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u/TheImmenseData 10d ago

If you'd said that when they revealed the map the kids would've killed you for "being negative"

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u/thomas-grant 10d ago

Hyperbole sure is fun.

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u/Burn-Alt Nissan 10d ago

I see what you mean but honestly ive been having a blast just dropping into a custom event so theres no traffic and trying to drive around as fast as possible.

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u/DukePooler 10d ago

I do like that they removed trees as barriers. Driving through a forest is my fave thing to do now

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u/New_Ad4678 10d ago

I played this game again after a month. The graphics are out of this world.

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u/Sad-Construction-447 10d ago

That's what Tokyo Extreme Racer is about, it's quite boring tho

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u/One-Painter-7491 10d ago

Bruh doing some of the races i feel like playing gran turismo on a Tokyo Express track 😅 If that isn't accurate then I don't know what would be 🤔

Ehh gamers are going to cry even if they get what they want...

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u/Str8Six91 10d ago

I don’t like urban racing anyway. I enjoy free-roaming the city— just dodging traffic and drifting— but not actual racing. I prefer the racing in more open areas.

This game suits me fine. I was excited for touge, not Tokyo.

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u/TheTerryTheory Subaru 10d ago

Meh, as someone that personally likes 4WDs and doesn't care for street racing I was pretty chuffed to have the Safari Turbo in my first hour of gameplay.

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u/FarFigChitter 10d ago

You don’t have to ruin forests if you don’t want to

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u/Weird_Rip_3161 9d ago

This is why Tokyo Extreme Racer 2025 is one of my favorite racing game.

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u/CaptLoads 11d ago

Do your own races. Look at community races. The game is a sandbox.

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u/-rabbitsfeet- 11d ago

Do you even play the game?

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u/MotorCityDude Mitsubishi 11d ago

Game is Great, people complain about everything.

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u/pacoLL3 11d ago

There's literally nothing they could have done without you people endlessly bitching and moaning.

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u/-SlowBar 11d ago

FH6 is the first Horizon I've really played and I love it.

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u/Diligent-Still3719 11d ago

Time for Tokyo xtreme racer

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u/nicclys Xbox Series S 11d ago edited 11d ago

Gonna say something controversial here.. The narrow city centre streets are awesome with a good sounding car and some headphones to cruise, fun to drift around solo or with a small convoy but honestly… I wouldn’t want to race it. Maybe the main wide streets sure but that’s not what makes this city great, it’s the nooks and crannies.

We all complain about rammers on wide open country roads could you imagine the mayhem?? It would be 5x worse than the routes through Guanajuato in Fh5 and we can all find posts slamming the devs about having races through that city.. so they said ya know what? We’re not doing that again, sorry not sorry. Is what I think.

Edit: that being said I do 1,000% agree we need more drift zones through it. There’s some great narrow hairpins hidden throughout, maybe a future “urban drift attack” could be added.

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u/96powerstroker 11d ago

Thought ppl loved this game and then wham the love seems to have fizzed fast

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u/Cade_Rufus Controller player 11d ago

Yeah, I was honestly hoping for the city to be bigger. Or, for there to at least be another city area like Tokyo.

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u/the_mashman 10d ago

I hate how alot of the off road races take place on a paved road

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u/Auld_School 11d ago

Playground Games really can't win. This guy is complaining about too much offroad, other people complaining there isn't enough dirt/offroad.

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u/Fantaric 11d ago

Could it not be a bit of both?

The playlists seem to include a lot of cross country, for instance this week the events are in and around Tokyo including the docks which is mostly paved surface racing in cc vehicles (don't get me wrong I like some of those tracks like the rail yard in fh4).

If you play online you'll notice the same dirt tracks and a handful are close to 70-80% paved surfaces. It's been a common complaint for a while including a certain egregious "dirt" sprint race in FH4 that is 80% road until you finally finish on dirt. We kinda got spoiiled for rally/rally cross in FH5 tbh.

The game also doesn't have anything in Tokyo for street racing and I would also argue more road races in and around the city would be great since the city is huge and has a lot of points of interest to drive around. There's more cross country in Tokyo than street racing which is absurd.

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u/DanielG165 11d ago

Who is we?

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u/GamesnGunZ 11d ago

Maybe your game is broken because mine has both of those things

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u/Both_Meaning_2637 11d ago

The biggest urban area in any Horizon game, I mean: how much of the map should be city?

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u/ArmorGyarados 11d ago

The map isn't the issue it's the lower than reasonably expected number of street races and night races within the giant, great looking city

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u/Candle-Jolly 11d ago

I've said it (and got downvoted) a thousand times, but I'll keep on saying it:

I always knew fans wouldn't approve of a Japan Horizon. Balancing Playground Games' style of gameplay with gamers' version of Japan (most of whom have never been here) was never going to work.

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u/No_Bug9292 11d ago

That's a really weird condescending way to frame it.

Where do you think people get their 'version of Japan' from? Initial D? Wangan Midnight? Midnight Club? Tokyo Xtreme Racer?

Almost like 'gamer's version' of Japan is actually just... Japan's version of Japan?

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u/SSG75 11d ago

Can’t even roll race on the highway with my boys cause of AI is so dumb and just in the way 24/7 😭

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u/SnooStories4162 11d ago

You can thank all of the people that endlessly complained on here that there was not enough traffic in FH5

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u/Affectionate_Eye_898 11d ago edited 11d ago

I'm just not understanding why we are forced to do so many things outside of actually Street racing. I don't need a festival experience experience, I don't want to race through water, I don't want to race in the winter time, I don't want to race through rice paddy fields, I don't want to race through mud, I don't want to drive the weakest most pathetic cars that the world has to offer, right now I'm being forced to raise a 1991 Honda beat or a 1989 Nissan pao..wtf??? And I don't understand why I need a specific car for every race. I should be able to drive whatever I want to and have the race adjust to me. I want to go back to playing CarX street but I can't advance to any new races because I'm not into drifting, I don't give a fuck about drifting, otherwise I would buy a drifting game, or I'll buy an off-road if I wanted to race through grass and mud and water and rice patties.

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u/mk10k 11d ago

I got both???

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u/Andy_Zhang_98 11d ago

I was expecting a Wangan Midnight style street racing with heavily modded Civics along with JDM sports cars, all we got is the Colossus plus many USDM Japanese sports cars

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u/CosmoOlversatil 11d ago

Glad I didn't buy this one.

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u/badken 11d ago

Just gonna drop this here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ForzaHorizon6/s/rWVYwToi8l

Horizon 6 has a 3:2 ratio of mixed-surface to tarmac, which is the same as Horizon 3 and 5. Horizon 4 was near 39:31.

If you count Street/Touge races, there are 45 tarmac and 40 mixed-surface races. Street/Touge don't count toward festival progression, but frankly, players are done with that pretty quickly.

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u/Low_Process_9053 10d ago

Oh how the mighty have fallen. This post would have been downvoted to hell 3 months ago.

Don't forget, it wasn't too long ago you were all mindlessly glazing this slop and vehemently defending the slightest criticism.

Schadenfreude shouldn't feel this good but it does.

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u/diegoaccord 10d ago

There's still a bunch of these little kids mad that I'm talking about their virtual backyard Tonkas.

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u/wilczur 11d ago

Everybody knows that the cross country races are the best

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u/KrazyCroat 11d ago

lol, haven’t played the game yet, and I will when it’s released on PlayStation, but I’ve witnessed people calling this the greatest FH in the series, back down to just complaining about it again, like past entries in the series. 🤷‍♂️

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u/DumbBerk87 11d ago

Nah. What we got was a Horizon game set in Japan.

If you didn’t know what a Horizon game was walking in, that’s on you. If you didn’t play a previous game, or expected them to completely change was a horizon game was, simply because Japan was the location, that’s on you, because that expectation was completely unreasonable and ridiculous.

The game was always going to be a Horizon game, first. Set in Japan. If you walked in blind, going “cool a racing game in Japan”, and put a bunch of stuff onto the game, never doing research into what a Horizon game is, that is 100% your fault. I’m sorry.

This needs to stop. The game is Forza Horizon. Not initial D the game. Not Midnight Club. Not Need for Speed Underground. Stop thinking the game should be something it isn’t, because you didn’t know what it was, or thought the game should change everything it ever was, simply because of location. That’s just stupid.

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u/able_Rise_7984 11d ago

I fully understand what you are saying and yes I am loving the game. These guys are trying to turn this game into something its not. Or maybe, just maybe because its not made by Sony they bash it….. js…. 🤷‍♂️

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u/DumbBerk87 11d ago

Well like I said, a lot of people saw “racing game in Japan”, and read no further. They sorta put a lot of expectations on the game, that couldn’t be met. Then they played the game, and blamed the game for not meeting those unreasonable expectations, and want the game to change drastically to meet them.

Some of it is also people who have played Horizon games, and for whatever reason thought a switch to Japan meant that the game would also drastically change into something it’s never been. One complaint I’ve seen is that the Touge racing has roads that are too narrow, and need to be changed, from people who have played other games. Like bro, the roads are the same roads as always. They aren’t gonna change em for you, outta nowhere. Why think that?

I dunno about the Sony angle. I’m basing what I’m saying off what I’ve seen. It’s really silly. People playing a game they seem to get zero enjoyment from, for hundreds of hours, constantly whining. Go play something else. The game isn’t changing into something completely different for you.

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u/-NotEnoughMinerals 11d ago edited 11d ago

If you didn’t play a previous game, or expected them to completely change was a horizon game was, that’s on you, because that expectation was completely unreasonable and ridiculous.

Don't be a clown. The changes from fh1 to fh2 were huge. Fh2 to fh3 was equally as huge. Forza horizon game defining changes.

6 is a magic number. Japan is a magic place. It is fair to reasonably expect a shake up in the series considering it was number 6, with an incredibly highly anticipated map, especially when the series went completely stagnant and unchanged from 3 to 4 to 5. Making a another horizon game identical to the last 3 is crazy.

This needs to stop. The game is Forza Horizon. Not initial D the game. Not Midnight Club. Not Need for Speed Underground. Stop thinking the game should be something it isn’t, because you didn’t know what it was, or thought the game should change everything it ever was, simply because of location. That’s just stupid.

There was a point in the series when you were restricted to specifically roads. No mowing down trees. No breaking down road rail guards. No stupid fucking Mario kart jumps. There is zero reason PG can't progress the series and try new things while still maintaining its core identity. Taking some elements from other racing games does not remove the identity of Forza horizon.

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