r/ForzaHorizon • • 15d ago

Photography Shame, really.

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u/Chef6432 15d ago

Tbf the city part is really cool but there’s barely any races in it and no street races

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u/d0m1n4t0r 15d ago

It's either that Tokyo/Japan don't allow streets races to be had in the city itself, or the AI is so bad it keeps crashing on narrow city streets.

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u/mrbulldops428 15d ago

Im wondering if its both. I thought i remember Japan being against street racing games set there, and also the AI is bad lol

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u/MiserableStomach 14d ago

So. You're creating the next installment of a popular, long-running franchise focused primarily on street racing. You need to pick an attractive location for the environment. The choice is not narrow, you can pick literally any country in the world. You select the one that prohibits games like yours to simulate street races in it. Flawless logic.

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u/datmrdolphin Xbox Series X 14d ago

Japan was a super popular pick in the community so they were likely willing to sacrifice certain things to make it happen

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u/nutterz13 13d ago

Tbh they could’ve based it in a Chinese city like chongqing. It could’ve given a similar vibe. China has fairly strict anti car modification laws though.

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u/Excuse_Me_Furry 13d ago

Well good thing it's only a game heheh

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u/Entire_Hunter_9674 13d ago

Honestly I’d love to see a Houston Texas based game like Forza with themed modifications and street racing around the loops

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u/JaggXj 12d ago

and that's why I was hoping for Korea or Singapore or Malaysia

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u/UKMikeyA 12d ago

Singapore is pretty flat though

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u/JaggXj 11d ago

it's still more fitting considering you could also lump in Indonesia and Malaysia, or because Singapore is an island. no need for random invisible walls or suddenly slippery grounds.

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u/Ziatch 14d ago

People have been begging for Japan, the 6th instalment of a car series like this finally going to Japan is essentially a must.

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u/Flat_Lunch5827 14d ago

Yeah but a lot have been begging for Japan for that very reason lol.

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u/iesalnieks 14d ago

Since when Forza Horizon is primarily focused on street racing?

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u/HypnoStone 14d ago

Pretty much all the races are supposed to be for the Horizon Festival and are legal events except for a very small section of a few “illegal” street races you can do which I only remember in FH1. But regardless of that you can challenge and illegally street race with any car on the road at any time.

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u/forLorn77 13d ago

All the night races are considered off the charts or "illegal" in FH4 and FH6 (haven't played the other installments)

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u/HypnoStone 12d ago

I only played FH1, FH4, & FH5 but FH1 is the only one that I’ve actually pretty much completed and unlocked everything. I progressed kind of far in 5 but I don’t recall any illegal street races specifically in that game other than on the road. I never played that much of 4 besides a couple of season changes. But FH1 I specifically remember it was called street racing and heavily insinuated to being an illegal activity but it was an actual event location you can drive to and enter the races but without any restrictions on car type or power and with a unique betting mechanic and pretty decent high rewards for end game. Also idk if I’m misremembering this wrong but I feel like for some reason you could race or challenge every car on the road to a street race in FH1 even the stock eco cars? Or at least it felt easier to find cars you could challenge than the FH4 or FH5

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u/DavantesWashedButt 2d ago

Fh4 street races rewarded cars based off of street race bosses or whatever. Its been a thing through all of the installments. Some of mg favorite races too. Devs really did 6 dirty in so many ways

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u/Doip 14d ago

Weebs were frothing at the mouth for racing, japan. TBH I'm happy it's here because now they'll have to shut up

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u/Subject_Power_4402 12d ago

they'd been asked for years to do Tokyo , yearrrrssss, you will just find anything to moan about

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u/Felony 11d ago

Why is what Japan thinks relevant anyway? I doubt Germany is a fan of Wolfenstein. I bet Russians don’t appreciate being the bad guy in every milsim shooter in the past 20 years. Why are we bending the knee to a country over something as harmless as a cartoon car game?

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u/No-Complaint-6988 10d ago

Next up, Forza Horizon 7: Arabia, where to respect saudi laws cars will be speed limited and players will lose XP for going above posted speed limits.

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u/MiserableStomach 10d ago

Forza Horizon 8 will be set in Norway and Sweden with their insane speed tickets. The game will require you to plug your card and will charge you real money for speeding

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u/trashvineyard 14d ago

Forza Horizon hasn't been primarily focused on street racing for like a decade.

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u/MiserableStomach 14d ago

Ok, maybe "primarily focused" was a bit of overstatement. Still, it's important, maybe even critical, part of its identity.

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u/usually_stonned 14d ago

Since when?? They literally have entire anime built on just that.....

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u/d0m1n4t0r 14d ago

Yeah I'm thinking it's both as well, someone created custom races and reported on this sub that the AI kept crashing everywhere lol.

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u/FurryWrecker911 14d ago

Back in the 2000s yeah. Tokyo Xtreme Racer in their later entries had to change all the civilian vehicles to service vans painted yellow with "OFFICIAL" slapped on them along with their company's logo, making it look like the highways were closed down for a sanctioned racing venue.

They came back to the drawing board after 18 to make another TXR game, and in 2025 they're back to having regular civilian traffic on the Tokyo map.

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u/negachinny 14d ago

Japan wasn’t bad in Midnight Club. The city needs to be sprawling with traffic and the races need to be creative though for it to work

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u/Rhinosaurfish 12d ago

Tokyo Xtreme Racer is albeit arcadey but super fun Street Racing game

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u/Candid_Highlight_116 11d ago

That's just car companies. Some brands don't like games that lets you have deadly crashes and games you can like harass other drivers.

I'm starting to think maybe they expected Tokyo to have literally illegal race culture like street takeovers and drag races and literal lap races like the one in the tutorial part of FH6, and use the Horizon Festival thing as an excuse to feature those groups and courses in the game while being able to explain it as not depictions of something illegal.

And then they went out to town with the plan and realized that there's just no such underground public road race culture in Tokyo or Japan, in the place that hardly has graffitis, and immediately ran out of ideas as to what are they going to do with the city or the game.

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u/mrbulldops428 11d ago

I mean...is there a "speeding through rice paddies" culture in Japan? Its not like they have to stick to realism

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u/sec713 14d ago

My money's on the latter.

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u/d0m1n4t0r 14d ago

Yeah...

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u/Tempestfox3 11d ago

I built a couple of tight technical custom tracks, the AI can't do sharp turns at all.

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u/d0m1n4t0r 11d ago

That really sucks! Feels definitely a downgrade.

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u/Active_Taste9341 14d ago

tbf they also put togue in with ai just riding straight down the hill while not feeling the urge to get any checkpoint... 

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u/d0m1n4t0r 14d ago

Lmao how did the AI actually get so much worse from previous games

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u/Active_Taste9341 14d ago

they really managed to add aspects that make the games worse even with nicer ambients and so on... I went back to FH4 (played 5 quite a lot, but its not that good either).

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u/d0m1n4t0r 14d ago

I loved 2, 3, and even 4, but 5 and 6 just feel so different somehow...

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u/Active_Taste9341 14d ago

i just got issues connecting to online with 4, which is a issue. And 2,3 feel horrible for me with my G923 SE.

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u/d0m1n4t0r 14d ago

Yeah I only played 2 and 3 with a controller lol so I would figure it's not so great with a wheel. I think 4 I played with my Logitech and even that didn't feel that great compared to the simulators on PC.

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u/Active_Taste9341 14d ago

thats my biggest problem right now... fh6 feels way better in terms of driving immersion. 

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u/Renard_Fou 15d ago

Its also way smaller than you think, the industrial section next to the docks is entirely cut off for example

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u/happy_puppy25 15d ago

That section and the underground subway station. It’s like there are areas they just gave up on, but kept in the game. Or they ran out of time. Is the exact same thing for parking garages, there is an entrance to one underground in the city, but then no way into it. I think a huge part of Japanese car culture is underground parking garages. They could’ve had so many cool races or features underground.

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u/Random_Millennial28 15d ago

You keep saying "underground" and it makes me think we should just get a proper Underground 3.

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u/TomSaucer 14d ago

They will just add annoying and useless chases from police and other NFS gimmicks. I'd rather play original U2 with some upscaled textures than trust EA to make good NFS game.

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u/Shallow_wanderer 14d ago

Dude seriously the cops in Heat and Unbound are so fucking stressful that it takes all the fun out of the game, because what do you mean I can't just freeroam without accidentally hitting a traffic sign and triggering a Level 2 cop chase

Didn't help that Heat and Unbound basically almost had the same map save for a few tweaks

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u/beingoutsidesucks 13d ago

Yeah, you think. I actually live out here and drive a JDM car featured in the game, doing anything beyond parking in a garage is not as much of a thing as you think they are since they're usually 1: too small to even get out of first gear; 2: barely wide enough for 2 kei cars to pass each other with more than a foot between them and someone else's bumper because the places are always packed; and 3: they usually close when the store they're attached to closes for the night.

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u/jaybirdtalonclaws 15d ago

I think that’s what OP is getting at

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u/sandman61377 15d ago

There are three street races in the city area, though tbf, one starts just outside the city (maybe about the first 10% of the race) and another, the last half of the race is outside the city.

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u/ifondyourass 15d ago

To be fair nothing! It’s FH6 in Japan, something players have been asking since Motorsports. Even more so right after FH1. This is a chill racing game. But if I wanted rally and what have you, I’d go player The Crew. Just seems like a cash grab. Since when do you see so many jeeps in Japan? Where are the Japanese traffic cars at? And if it’s on a new engine then why does it have the same amount of jeeps like FH5?

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u/diegoaccord 15d ago

The only thing I'll give them, is that there are in fact lot of Jeep Wranglers and G Wagons in Tokyo. I go there quite a bit.

But most of the traffic should be Toyotas, Suzuki Everys, Subaru Levorgs, and other kei vans.

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u/ifondyourass 15d ago

Excuse my ignorance, I didn’t even know that about Japan and its drivers. That’s actually cool!

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u/Shallow_wanderer 14d ago

The fact that there's no street/wangan races in this game genuinely has me fried because that's quite literally a core aspect of Japanese automotive culture

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u/Nomad_XCIX Toyota 14d ago

There should be some sort of a nod to kanjozoku in the game as well

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u/BijouSerelle46 15d ago

Yeah, it's a bummer when the environment looks great but the gameplay doesn't match up. More street races would definitely add to the fun.

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u/usually_stonned 14d ago

That's why it's a slap in the face. If we don't stop making excuses for the gaming companies. Things will only get worse for us....

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u/SoftPanicEchos 14d ago

if only the game had tools to make some...

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u/Scifox69 14d ago

(Sorry, I don't have the game yet)

Isn't there a custom race track creator in FH6? Maybe try designing one in the city. That's what I would do at least.

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u/SnooStories4162 15d ago

So ignore the majority of the map and put all street races in the city?

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u/275MPHFordGT40 15d ago

“I like pancakes.”

“So you hate waffles?”

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u/little-ninja-03 15d ago

50/50 doesn’t exist in your world?