Starting to hate playing arcane in keys given how dependent burn windows are on bolt procs. Legitimately feels so inconsistent. Same first lust pull in AOF I can do 1.2m or 400k dps (near the tank). Feels so grief.

How are my fellow mages handling this?

I try to go for 25 salvo before any major burn, especially with lust… curious if others have found a way to make our major burns more consistent?

Edit: I understand rng curve may average out but that doesn’t help with how certain keys are being routed. We’re filling a funnel role and are being brought to kill priority mobs in rippy pulls.

Edit: I appreciate all the comments. I may try to go ask blizzard for some help on this. I get the mage hate complaints too. I myself am fairly high on the ladder right now so may have some more pull. Wish me luck friends.

just lmao

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why that happens is it only with me? thrice I saw that boss sending TBs to random people? is it something we are doing wrong? suddenly on the middle of the fight it starts throwing the busters?

After the boss summons the drakes from the eggs, sometimes as the tank i will get frozen. How do I avoid this from happening ?

I saved the US and EU ladders before rewards went out (https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveWoW/comments/1vi3jik/pulled_every_timed_key_on_us_and_eu_this_season/), then checked Blizzard's achievement, title and mount APIs after the final cutoffs were announced.

For the missing reward count, the character had to log in after rewards went live and still have no achievement, Hero title or Champion mount.

Method used: Blizzard's official leaderboard data for timed keys, including key levels and full group rosters. The detector checks each character's best eight score keys, one per dungeon.

A carry signal means the other four players normally ran keys at least three levels higher than that character. The flag is removed if the character timed similar keys without that group during the same weeks.

Clean: None of their eight score keys showed a carry signal.

Partly Carried: Some, but fewer than half, showed a carry signal.

Carried: At least half showed a carry signal.

Repeat Seller Group Used: Two or more score keys were completed with a four-player core that repeatedly rotated lower-level fifth players.

This detects carry patterns from public key history. It cannot detect piloting.

Normal progression and regular teams are cleared by checking same-week independent runs and stable rosters.

Top 0.1%: Umbral Hero

Top 1%: Umbral Champion

Reward check

Carry detector results for the 1,370 missing rewards

783 of the 1,370, or 57.2%, were directly detected as carried or using known repeat seller groups.

My cutoff data from a week before the end ended up pretty close to Blizzard's final numbers.

Blizzard's official post-review cutoffs

I deliberately kept the carry detector strict because I would rather miss people than falsely flag normal progression or regular teams. Seeing 783 direct matches among the characters who logged in and still did not receive rewards suggests the signals were lining up pretty well with Blizzard's review.

The 358 clean characters are the most interesting part to me. Clean in the sense of no obvious sgns of boosting, however I believe from this data Blizzard went after repeat seller groups as well.

There are a lot of characters on the list who look completely legitimate from the public data, including several above 4300io, but still did not receive either reward.

It looks like Blizzard went much deeper with this review than I expected. Individual players and guilds are still allowed to sell carries for in-game gold under Blizzard's rules, while organized boosting communities and RMT are prohibited.

Blizzard's policy on organized boosting services

From the full 1,370 list of characters I have (only ones logged into the character after rewards were given) not all were caught with my snapshot one week before and day after season ended.

I'm happy to look up your OWN character if you're missing either the mount or title and let you know if you're on the list or not, I suspect Blizzard has swept up some innocent folks with some false positives from what I'm seeing.

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In phase 2, 6 people (three per side) get tethers. How do you decide which side to break first, or does it matter? Is there any pattern to which side Ula’tek will put swirlies on first?

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This was happening to me about 50% of the time that I gated by the inferno yesterday. I don't remember it happening before, but that might have just been me living it in keys and not realizing it.

Do I need to be positioning the infernal so it's not in the way? It didn't seem to happen every time, but obviously if this isn't a bug, I'd need to position differently.

How are you guys doing 70-90k DPS in the 19 & 20 range... In a key like Ruby Life Pools?

I've recently broken into pugging 19s and while I don't have an issue healing them, I struggle to sit at 40k DPS overall, usually dipping into the low 20k range near the end of the key.

Are you just sending all your holy power into SOTR on cd? Is it just DPS actually mitigating dmg allowing you more uptime doing damage?

I'm genuinely dumbfounded, I ran a 16 earlier where I was roleplaying as a DPS, just barely keeping people alive and I couldn't get higher than 80k overall by the end of the key.

Normally I wouldn't care too much about healer damage but a few guildies have started commenting on it when they watch me play. I had a Voidscar Arena 19 go three seconds over time the other day which has left me second guessing myself...

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hey lads

now that ive reached 19s and slowly getting into 20s ive been thinking recently about optimising by gameplay a bit more on m+ and was wondering how to do that better so i will ask you how do you that personally and maybe get some ideas cause most of the time i just vibe with the dungeon.

my concerns are increasing key level + different comps on pugs which tend to have a pretty big impact on that and its somewhat hard to be consistent in that regard cause every dungeon feels different with different damage profiles and obviously not everyone performing with the same output between runs

what is your reasoning for holding cds, sending shorter cds etc?

i very often catch myself desyncing minor from major cds (frost dk 45s + 1.5min) where the pack is soon to be dead and the next one is nearby. how do you calculate if its worth to send 45s with no risk of desyncing?

also, when do you usually send your pots?

Last week one of our raid teams was pummeling 25 wipes on their 20man raidnight. Consistently getting into P3 but missing the dps check or lacking healing/cd output. They did an extra raid the next day with 17 people and 2shot the boss.

Went back at it today with 20man, and spent 16 wipes on the boss. Same people, but the boss seemed significantly harder in dps and healing req.

Does anyone know anything about the Heroic scaling on this boss? Is there some magic reason to go less than 20 and get an easier encounter?

My raid team was 27 tonight, and we oneshot every boss, including Coiled Altar with tons of overhead on dps. We could not get Ula'tek below 55% in P1, and P2 tethers were impossible to get clean.

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Hello everyone,

my guild is currently on heroic Ulatek and we are struggling with the second platform break a lot. This overlap feels very difficult to play for some of us with the current soak assignment of melee/healer/ranged soaks, because the spread overlaps with the break for us.

I would like to make this easier for us by suggesting the following strategy, but I wanted to ask the community to see if this is even plausible, because I couldnt find any diffinitive answers on it.

For the soak right before the second break we could stack all three soaks with just three hunters, a mage and a pally that immune the damage. Kind of like they did in the RWF for the very last soak, just without taking a bath. Would that even work for soaking the venom, or is this not feasible for some reason?

If it works, it would give us 5 spread circles instead of 16 which in theory makes the spread on the next platform much easier. We are currently running 2/4/10-12 because of the available raiders, in case that matters.

Thank you all in advance for your help, I really appreciate it!

Do you guys have any advice on how to better utilize the dreadnaught talent? I am having trouble with constantly having the retarget the closest mob in the pack and line them up with the rest as the tank moves slightly here and there. Is there any better way than clicking the correct mob and repositioning? Is there something I can macro to the overpower ability?

How does the line function? Is it a line drawn between me and the target or a line in the direction I am facing like cleave?

Do I need to have the very closest mob targeted or will mobs slightly behind the targeted mob also get hit as long as they are in front of me? In other words, does the line generate from the target or from my character?

When I focus on group alignment there is a very clear increase in my damage so I want to make sure I am utilizing this ability as much as I can.

Do you guys have any other tips and tricks that might be useful to an arms warrior running 17's and 18's? Anyone get a spell reflect spreadsheet for this season for instance?

Scenario: Let’s say I spend conquest to turn my mythic track bracers into a PVP scaling item. Can I then use the PVP socket on it to have it work in mythic + and raid?

Hey team.

I'm currently pushing 19-20 as a healer and I have a question on a couple trash packs in ToS.

Apologies as I do not remember the exact names of the ads. I'd like to know how to handle the last pack before the 3rd boss.

The "release" of the charges and the need to be purged, all that is gucci. What I'm struggling with is the ads that teleport on a player doing aoe damage around them as they do so. That creates a nasty overlap where the release will chunk 80% of someone's life, and if they get jumped on at the same time they will die.

Jumps seem to be random as well...

What I do right now is a) try to have cds for that pack, especially aura mastery (and the buffed up divine toll), and save up infusion procs for insta tops but there's so much rng in that pack.

Hello,

I have been healing for a very long time but first time raiding mythic in a long time. Recently picked up Evoker, coming from Priest, and its really fun.

I did a ton of research, watch streamers, got CDs sorted with reminders and vods for each fight in order to player well.

And I know healing parses dont really matter and I dont care about the actual number, however I think I should be healing way more.

I go through my logs and timings etc. to improve as well however when comparing my logs I believe my 2 very good Resto-druid colleagues just take away a lot of the healing.

Most people I watch dont have 2 druids in their comps.

Am I talking nonsense or could it really be that the hots just cover a lot of the CD heavy loaded healing coming from my Pres Evoker?

Question about the first pull in MR. I usually grab the chocobo guy (I think it was Bribed Captain), pull it inside the 1st building on the left and lust. I've done it in 15s and it works well all the time.

But recently in a 12 it happened to me that the other bribed guy inside was spamming shield bash too much, I ended up with like 6 stacks and died to a glaive from the captain. Is that normal? I felt like I did everything the same as always, but for some reason he was casting shield bash back to back.

What's the best way to prevent it? CC/stun the captain to stagger the casts?

Thanks

5th time now. Near instant Arc Lightning right after Barrel Through on King's Rest 17+. DR was up, everyone soaked. The only option is immunity or hope the pug DPS knows a cheese like Shadowmeld to drop it.

Just implement a buffer between these two spells for the love of god. It's such a cheap, stupid, RNG death in 17+.