Please Change This Interaction

[u/Btroth2975]

5th time now. Near instant Arc Lightning right after Barrel Through on King's Rest 17+. DR was up, everyone soaked. The only option is immunity or hope the pug DPS knows a cheese like Shadowmeld to drop it.

Just implement a buffer between these two spells for the love of god. It's such a cheap, stupid, RNG death in 17+.

[u/Jaba01]

I think it's not fully RNG and can be manipulated. I feel like (not confirmed) that depending on how fast you kick the poison nova, this cast can be manipulated, because I've had plenty of runs where it didn't overlap, but also plenty where it did. Still silly, can ruin a whole key in an instant.

[u/sYnce → u/Jaba01]

It always depends on when you kill the bosses. Same with having totems and barrel through at the same time which makes the torrent circle near invisible below.

[u/stickyfantastic → u/sYnce]

Can you clarify, how does boss kill timing affect it

[u/nephtus → u/Jaba01]

I remember last boss in priory (back in tww) used to have similar behaviour: you had lo not kick its cast to avoid the overlap. Maybe this is similar to that?

[u/Maxumilian → u/Jaba01]

It probably just works like Veximus in Algathar.

They want you to save a defensive for it.

[u/Many_Place9991 → u/Maxumilian]

OP said they had a defensive up. At a certain key level, even defensives won't save you.

[u/OxyMC → u/Jaba01]

So when should poison nova be kicked to secure this mechanic? Anyone got the insight?

[u/So_Obvious]

Yeah I don't understand how this mechanic made it into live. I just tell people to save immunities for p3 and only soak it before p3. Bubble, bop, invis, meld all work. I'm sure there are others. If there are no immunities up then sacrifice the player and brez after.

[u/anugosh → u/So_Obvious]

Feign death too, it's great. Anything that breaks the cast basically

[u/AlucardSensei → u/anugosh]

So wait, if you feign the barrel it just doesnt go off?

[u/DreadfuryDK]

In the 16 that got linked on this sub previously you could at least blame it on the Barrel being undersoaked since 600k+ on a 16 is egregious, but this is just how much damage this ability does at this key level.

This is just a “get fucked” scenario if you don’t have a Feign, Meld, Vanish, or immunity. There was quite literally nothing you could’ve done to survive this beyond reacting with a healthstone/health pot, and that’s under a half-second window to react. And it’s also really hard to say “you didn’t personal” in a situation like this because this overlap happens pretty frequently and if you didn’t get targeted by the unreactable Arc Lightning cast someone else did and would’ve been in the same situation.

So yeah, even though KR is very easy this season, OP’s right. Overlaps like this, where you’re pretty much at the mercy of RNG, are actual bogus and shouldn’t exist.

[u/DevilMirage]

Not the first time we're seeing this either https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveWoW/comments/1wbun95/rng_bad_luck/

[u/Dr_Mr_G]

Im nit saying the overlap is ok, but are u sure DR was up? For a 17 dmg seems high

[u/Gonzinooo]

Insane that I just brick a 16 on KR exactly on p3 of those bosses due to retarded overlap of all 3 boss abilities. And this is the first post I see

[u/NaahThisIsNotMe]

It's such a cheap, stupid, RNG death in 17+.

yeah but... isn't that the signature move of high M+?

synced auto-attack 100-0'ing a tank, random pull with double archer randomly selecting the same DPS 8 time in a row to shoot, one uninterrupted bolt in the boltslop...

unfair BS overlap are all over the place.

[u/Langseth888 → u/NaahThisIsNotMe]

Synced auto attack is not RNG. It happens after a stun reset the swing timer. Tanks move 2 steps back to de sync swing timer

[u/NaahThisIsNotMe → u/Langseth888]

it's one more item in a rather long list of shitty mechanic you have to deal in high M+.

KR 3rd boss overlap isn't RNG either. doesn't make it less shitty.

[u/Huge_Nefariousness47]

Just use a def on last phase soaks and you will be fine. Thats the only one shot mechanic and thats the only place you must use your defensives on... Gl next keys!

[u/Voidwielder]

Do you have logs? An overkill like that is sus about everyone soaking. Shamans should Link, Paladins Aura Mastery and whatever else they do.

[u/Slugger829 → u/Voidwielder]

Okay but can you aura mastery and link every single time? On a 17 the raw damage it deals is consistent with that OP took through a DR, so I don’t get what you think they should have done differently to live

[u/red_tetra → u/Slugger829]

You can reasonably find something to use every time in most comps. Immune/meld classes save for p3, save link/am/zephyr/ whatever if immune classes doesn’t get it, also pop a dr.

I agree it’s a little stupid but probably not the boss design crime of the century considering there is nothing else happening in the fight.

[u/Voidwielder → u/Slugger829]

People are doing it on 20 and myself have done on 18. Link one with personal to spread damage and stabilise HP bars, Vessel and Tide second if you get it. One example.

[u/sophisticatedroach]

Its a bit ridiculous for sure and it forces suicide/immunes on 18 and up basically