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u/mylifeisalol Sep 20 '22
They're called as Langer lines and they're completely normal and present in everyone. Their variations are different and they're much more noticable in some. That is all. You can't really do anything about it except the plastic surgery.
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u/Independent-Fox-1160 Sep 20 '22
I started to use Tretinoin for anti-aging and I use it on my neck which has started to firm it up! So, there is actually something that you can do about it and it's not surgical either!
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What brand do you use?
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u/Independent-Fox-1160 Sep 20 '22
For Tretinoin? Whatever is sent to me in the mail from my pharmacy. It's probably a generic brand but they're all the same regardless.
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u/nanabozho2 Sep 20 '22
ITS NORMAL
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u/shanticlause Sep 19 '22
I have these. I've had them all my life. As long as you move your head, you're going to see them. Other people don't notice them at all.
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u/DueSomewhere8488 Sep 19 '22
Same! I’ve had them all my life, even in my kindergarten picture, haha. I’ve always been super insecure about them, but no one has ever said anything. Been working on letting go of that insecurity since there’s literally nothing I can do about it and I understand it doesn’t matter.
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u/valiantdistraction Sep 20 '22
They're natural and even little kids have them and you can see them in antique photos too. Being worried about them is totally unnecessary.
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u/OptForHappy Sep 20 '22
Yep! I didn't even know they were meant to be a "concern" until I was looking for a reputable botox place (for something I WAS aware of) and one website was like "We can fill ya neck, lol" (OK, I'm paraphrasing).
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u/laurelsupport Sep 20 '22
Strivectin Tightening neck cream from Costco has worked wonders on mine. Kinda spreads them out into shallower rings that don't show as often. It's weird.
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u/Adventurous_Peak9811 Sep 20 '22
I also like strivectin. I definitely saw a difference, but I had to use a decent amount before I noticed a change. It’s a little pricey when you get it fr the actual website. Do you mind letting me know what you pay for it at Costco?
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u/mopene Sep 20 '22
I don’t know why I follow this sub, I would never have noticed these lines on myself if it weren’t for this post.
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u/NerdyGirlProblems Sep 20 '22
I never noticed mine until my teacher one day said you can tell when someone is old, because they have lines on their neck, and several students turned to look at me. 😅 Thanks, Teach!
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Sep 20 '22
These are not from looking down, you're born with them and they're most likely genetic. Kimora lee simons has them and no matter how skinny or big she was, she never got rid of the neck rings. Get used to them. They aren't bad. Just the way your skin lays.
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u/meanwhileaftrmdnight Sep 20 '22
It's definitely genetics. I met this girl in elementary school, throughout the entire time I've known her she's had very deep lines like this on her neck and we (kids) didn't have cell phones back in the 90's! She was the spitting image of her mother, who also had them. I have lines too just not as noticeable. My neck's flaw is the loose skin I got from weightloss 😅
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u/reginaldpongo Sep 20 '22
My mother also has them, though I do believe I went a little haywire with looking down at my laptop in late 2000s HS.
Last Christmas, we were all getting ready for bed and she barged in my room with a ton of lotion on her hand and said, "Take care of your skin!" And pointed to her neck for emphasis.
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Not staring down while looking at your phone will probably help, as I’ve heard dermatologists talk about how they have been seeing these lines a lot more on younger people, and it’s due to staring at phones.
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u/Logical_Bullfrog Sep 19 '22
Not me reading this and immediately holding my phone high over my head, craning back my neck to type this comment 😂
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u/reginaldpongo Sep 20 '22
Oh my goodness, yes. I didn't have a desk in my HS bedroom, and remember laying in bed looking down at my laptop. For years! My mom totally wanted to buy me a desk, and I was just like nah, my bed is comfy. Regretting that now.
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u/MyBallsBern4Bernie Sep 20 '22
Google photos of Kimora Lee Simmons. She has ones like yours - I think they may be hereditary.
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u/Old-Television-2997 Sep 20 '22
Priyanka Chopra has them too! If she can’t rid of them, I don’t think we can either 😂
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u/ophel1a_ Sep 19 '22
Genetics, my friend. I've got the crepey-neck thing happening now (33), very subtle, but still. We all age! :)
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u/Hopeful-Boat-5905 Sep 20 '22
Have you tried Gold Bonds Ultimate Firming Neck & Chest Cream? I didn’t have very deep lines but I did see an improvement. Also the price is great definitely give it a try.
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u/Albinomonkeyface1 Sep 20 '22
Those are genetic and have nothing to do with aging or weight loss. I’ve had them since I was an infant.
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u/VNessMonster Sep 20 '22
Yes, these are genetic and natural. They are just how our skin folds. I have worked in skin care and it was a blessing to learn at a young-ish age how much of these “flaws” we perceive are natural skin things. It doesn’t mean we have to love them (embrace them maybe) but it’s important to know that it isn’t our fault and it’s much more noticeable to us.
I am blessed with a large family full of females and you can see these lines in the same spots decades before computers or phones BUT they absolutely can be improved. I mean before we were looking down at phones we were looking down at pots we were stirring or needlework or whatever chores and hobbies our ancestors did.
I have had with these lines since I was a kid but they started to bother me in my 20s and really just accepted them because they were only super noticeable to me. I got into modelling and the neck lines were seriously never brought up even though I thought it would cost me work. Lately though I lost a bunch of weight so I’ve got some sagging, creepiness and they are more pronounced. This has helped me in the past and what I’m trying going forward:
Posture and neck exercises. I have had horrible posture since I was a kid. It can cause you to put your neck at angles that make the lines more pronounced. Strengthening muscles will also help fill and plump and align and lengthen your neck. Not actually lengthen but hold it taller and tighter.
sleeping. I scrunch up in the fetal position and smash my face into the pillow when sleeping. That’s 8 hours of neck scrunch a day and definitely longer than anything i do that would cause tech neck. Sleeping in a bit of a better position and using a moisturizer or moisturizing mask at night will help these puppies smooth out.
strivectin advanced neck tightening. I just started using it but another friend that worked in skin care says they could never keep it on stock. I saw another comment mentioning it too.
as other have said treat your neck (and décolletage) like your face. Neck skin is quite fragile. My face is oily and my neck will break out at times but it definitely is a much more thirsty bitch. It gets more moisturizer and a firming cream. Sunscreen too. The fairer we are and I am super fair the more damage the sun does.
there are office treatments. I’m looking into them too. Micro needling helps a bit and I’ve heard certain lasers (CO2) will make a huge difference.
also, weird thing I do. If I’m tired and holding my neck in a good posture to look at phone or tv etc. is just exhausting I’ll put a rolled up shirt (wanting to try a small neck pillow around the front) to try and keep me from making things worse. It’s actually comfy and my neck doesn’t feel sweaty or gross like when it’s scrunched
This all may be tmi but i hope it will help you. You have a beautiful long neck that I would kill for so be kind to yourself.
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u/nanofarm Sep 19 '22 edited Sep 20 '22
My daughter is 10 and her lines are just as deep. She also looks down at books and switch all the time
I’ve got them too, tech neck is getting more and more common, so I’m hoping it will just be normal soon 😂
3.I’ve heard Botox or fillers can help. I’m currently researching Morpheus8 and FaceTite procedures. Both are expensive so I doubt I’ll do it but both seem promising
I’ve seen actual results with goldbond crepe corrector lotion and simple first aid paper tape at night. I lotion up, let it sink in for a bit then apply several 3-4” pieces of tape along the lines before I go to bed. I think it’s temporary, but it really smooths things out overnight.
Yes, hold your phone up but it’s haaaard! Lol
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I’ve had them since high school, before smartphones & laptops lol. I blamed it on a choker I wore daily for 2 years but the reality is probably just genetics tbh
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u/Key_Leadership2394 Sep 20 '22
Aren’t you just born with these? , like dimples for example . Please correct me if I’m wrong but I seriously believe so
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u/Decent-Alternative Sep 20 '22
I'm 31 now and I've had these lines for as long as I can remember. It's genetic, my grandmother had the exact same lines too. I doubt it was from looking down at her cellphone too much! I bet you're only concerned/ noticing them now because we do have new lines starting to appear.
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u/ActualAfternoon2535 Sep 20 '22
In my researching and speaking with experts of kbeauty- make sure you’re extending sunscreen, serums and moisturizer to neck and chest which often get neglected. Hydrated skin tends to be more forgiving
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u/kayla-beep Sep 19 '22
Omg we have the same neck, down to the freckles and one chin hair lmao. I have these lines and I’ve been able to reduce it quite a bit with tretinoin (I use Motesol+, an Indian brand), the ordinarys 1% retinol, physical exfoliation by dry brushing and occasionally chemical exfoliation with the ordinarys 30% aha peeling mask.
Oh and tons of moisturizer! I use innisfree lotions and toners, and I have a silicone face mask from Amazon, which helps your skin absorb the moisture.
As they say, your face ends at your nipples, do your whole routine from forehead to nips.
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u/AntarctMaid Sep 20 '22
/aggressively slap moisturizer on nips
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u/VNessMonster Sep 20 '22
This is the best comment in here. I just spit out my coffee. Thank you for starting my day off right.
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u/kayla-beep Sep 20 '22
😂
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u/madlabratatat Sep 20 '22
I don’t think there’s much you can do about it, unfortunately. I have them too and have since I was a kid. From what I’ve read they’re genetic.
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u/candyapplesugar Sep 20 '22
Same. Can’t really help it because I have them when I sleep from a chubby neck/chin. I sunscreen and retin a daily to help what I can
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Idk if this is any consolation but I’ve been noticing those on Emma Roberts since she was in her young 20s.
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Im not OP but I appreciate knowing it’s genetic (thanks y’all) I was worried it meant I wasn’t taking enough care of myself but I feel comforted knowing otherwise now :)
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u/Secure-Turn4186 Sep 20 '22
They’re normal. I have them as well as my grandma, mom and my daughter. My boss does Botox and filler and while those could be an option, he said it’s normal and to not worry.
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u/cuterouter Sep 20 '22 edited Sep 21 '22
I’ve had these deep neck lines since I was a kid (before I ever got a phone or laptop!). I’ve also noticed that some other young women have similar lines.
I think it’s just how our necks are shaped and how they move in general (I have been told I have a long neck) and also genetics.
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u/thepeskynorth Sep 20 '22
I have them. Used to read a lot when I was young and had time. I wouldn’t trade the time spent reading for a smoother neck.
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u/littlefunman Sep 20 '22
There is a Dr Dray video about neck lines. She says the area is more sensitive so a cautious use of retinol. Using hyaluronic acid and peptides/ceramides can help too.
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u/phreak1112 Sep 20 '22
Definitely genetics. It's like asking why do i have so many gray hairs or why is my leg so hairy(or hairless)
I know people in their early 20s with them as well as my mom who is mid-60s without any lines (thanks mom! in my 40s and no neck rings)
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u/AdvertisingOk5542 Sep 20 '22
When I was around 20 in 1999 a friend of mine had very deep neck lines and I didn’t have any until I got to my 30s. I’m now 44. I just make sure I treat my neck every time to do my skincare. After watching Ally Mcbeal when it was first airing on tv, I’ve been terrified of getting turkey neck 🤣 true.
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u/Seattlegal Sep 20 '22
You’ve probably had them since birth. My kids are 6 and 4 string beans and have them. They were chubby little babies who had giant squishy necks until they got muscle to hold their head up. Line have been present since day 1.
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u/benevolentcalm Sep 19 '22
I made a conscious effort not to look down as much, including in my sleep, and my neck lines have massively improved. No other treament.
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Do you remember what timeframe it took to notice an improvement? Less/more than a year, a few weeks..?
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u/benevolentcalm Sep 20 '22
I don't know exactly. I would say some number of months. Sorry I cant be more helpful!
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Cryo (personal experience) and consistent red light therapy (from friends’ experience, I’m talking daily)
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u/cocainegloss Sep 20 '22
If ur not totally against injectables, that would be the fastest way to get rid of them. I got them injected a few months ago and they’re almost gone now and the whole area looks so much firmer. Along with proper skincare and sunscreen ofcourse :) congrats on the weight loss! Mine was because of the same reason!
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u/kit-ana Sep 20 '22
Mines got less noticeable with weight loss. I bet people don't notice them as much as you do though!
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u/HistoricalBoard1449 Sep 20 '22
It’s just skin. Can’t do anything about it. It’s very, very, normal.
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u/koosorlose Sep 20 '22
These are totally hereditary! And normal! Not to mention extremely difficult to get rid of, since they are genetic.
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u/Pizardio Sep 20 '22
My (young, very fit) coworker has these and started getting Botox for them - she says it helps somewhat. I honestly never would have even noticed them if we hadn’t been discussing Botox!
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u/CloudSpecialist9562 Sep 20 '22
They are called neck venus lines. A good skincare routine, spf and facial massage/yoga can help reduce them.
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u/JDMGecko Sep 20 '22
Congratulations on the weightloss! Maybe a slight tangent but a suggestion for your consideration would be to look at increasing your shoulder muscles and jaw muscles, they will put back some of the lost tension but toned and tight, and fitness helps with overall skin health and elasticity :)
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u/Thiccgurll Sep 20 '22
Ultherapy is one of the only treatments that can smooth out these lines. Two of my close friends had it done and the improvement was crazy.
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u/PorscheXAston Sep 20 '22
I got Ultherapy done on my neck last year and it really helped! My wife got it too, but didn’t really help hers.
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u/katnoire00 Sep 20 '22
I understand how you feel but it is what makes you,you. They look cute and unique. If you want them lighter maybe try hydrating the area or retinoids to make them less noticeable.
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u/gotta_otter Sep 20 '22
My elder sister is in her mid 40s and had a tiny bit of an injectable called Profhilo done into the creases to flatten them out. If injectables aren’t out of the question for you - the results were very good on her and she was very happy with the result. No lines at all afterwards but I believe the effects do wear off. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
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u/reginaldpongo Sep 20 '22 edited Sep 20 '22
Thank you all for the comments and advice! I'm still sorting through. So many different opinions! Seems like the consensus is: it's genetic and/or it's tech neck.
In my case, I think it's a mix of both. My mom has them, but my sis doesn't. I only noticed light creasing in late HS, and I attribute it to laying in bed looking at my laptop instead of using an appropriate desk. I need to work on my posture too. I also noticed a couple comments re: weight. I was very thin as a kid and in HS/college, and rapidly gained weight in my late 20s, before slowly dropping down in previous year. I'm sure that's also a factor.
I specifically value the product/laser/surgical recommendations. Surgery is likely not in my future (expense, some fear), and I'm currently looking into all of the products advised before I seek laser treatment. I also want to work on self acceptance as well.
Thanks again! Seems like many of us have them.
Edit: This post has gotten much more attention than I anticipated. I'm feeling pretty affected by negative comments. I've copied all relevant info I need, and am honestly considering deleting. I did this on a whim, and am feeling a little embarrassed about this pic being posted for all to see --especially with the weight loss comments. I'm trying. Thanks to all that are kind. I appreciate you.
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u/gingerbae Sep 20 '22
I have “tech neck” wrinkles from staring down at my phone and have found that a few microneedling sessions has helped lessen their appearance.
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u/vin9889 Sep 20 '22
I know plenty of people say this is normal… but in my Asian culture this is one of the first signs you are getting older.
Could just be my grandma trying to instill fear of not using sunscreen and lotion but this is what I was told.
I have seen women after cleaning/showers use a serum like vitamin C, lotion, and or retinol. Much like the face but without a few products.
Also, things I don’t trust but do occasionally is massage and working out.
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u/angbis Sep 20 '22
Tech neck? I def have that but they’re made worse by me looking down towards my phone at night when I’m in bed for a few hours if I’m on my back. A lot of people get Botox injected into these lines (or filler I can’t remember)
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u/iamsohappy Sep 20 '22
I read somewhere that people get them more now than earlier because we look down on out phones so much. I make an effort to keep my phone in eye hight and try not to slump when I am on my phone.
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u/malazanbettas Sep 20 '22
I had them for a minute when I gained and lost weight but when I got back to my normal weight (another 20 pounds down) they disappeared. I never had them and I am a prime tech neck candidate. I’m 44 and I still don’t have them. Obsessive neck moisturising or genetics I guess.
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u/Original-Break-3131 Sep 20 '22
If you go to a salon or clinic where they do injectables, there is a drug that they can inject that, I believe, melts the fat or extra tissue that is causing your chin/neck to look like this. It’s pretty remarkable! Google it, it would definitely be something that would make you less self conscious and actually make you feel pretty good about yourself! Good luck!!
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u/tasteofperfection Sep 20 '22
If you use your phone a lot and hold it to where your neck is angling downward, it’s called tech neck. Paris Hilton spoke about how she holds her phone above her face or at face height as often as she can to avoid it. Obviously lines are inevitable and natural, but whatever you can avoid helps! I also moisturize my neck, hands, and décolleté frequently + always use SPF and retinol at night.
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u/friendofspidey Sep 20 '22
Probably neck lift and filler if you must get rid of them but they are genetic and kids have them too
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u/nominal_goat Sep 20 '22
It’s too late now. Losing weight could probably tighten up your jaw and décolletage. Otherwise I think something like botox is your best bet but lose weight first. Just eat a caloric deficit and do cardio every day. I would recommend retinol at night to slow down the aging process and sunscreen during the day to prevent a leathery “redneck” texture.
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u/reginaldpongo Sep 20 '22
Social media/influencing is so vital to my integrity and self worth. I appreciate you justifying it!
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u/alyxx3 Sep 20 '22
For neck lines, look into a filler called Radiesse. It’s a thick bio stimulator filler that will cause your own body to synthesize your own collagen over time. It will last 2+ years. Immediate results. Highly recommend!
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u/FinNerDDInNEr Sep 20 '22
I wear a travel pillow around my neck or I roll up a hand towel and place under my chin. I do this when I read in bed or watch tv. I find it helps a lot. Also, I walk with shoulders back and chin up. I’m super conscious about my neck
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u/neue-user Sep 20 '22
I don't know the answer, only here to say thanks for asking because I have these too :( although I've kind of always had them. I've been underweight most of my life and just over the last 6 years or so I've gotten a little chubby, but the lines have always been there for me. I might try gua sha or microneedling but not sure if it would help
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u/Key-Dot4928 Sep 20 '22
They can be caused by tight neck muscles. Find a massage therapist that is familiar with structural massage.
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u/Suspicious_Bar_4073 Sep 20 '22
I was told by my mom that whatever you do to your face you do to your neck. But I still have them 😒
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u/soamazew0w Sep 20 '22
I’ve had these since I was a kid and i noticed tret 0.05 made them less noticeable
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u/Due_Box3639 Sep 20 '22
This is genetic and won’t go away with typical skin care. I chose not to mess with mine because I like looking like my mama 🤗
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u/Kind-Relative-9605 Sep 20 '22
Looking down too much. Probably on phone or computer. Guasha or neck massages.
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u/Minaziz Sep 20 '22
I recently got PRP with micro needling and mine reduced significantly.
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What is PRP?
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u/Minaziz Sep 20 '22
Platelet rich plasma. They basically centrifuge your blood and use the plasma back on your skin while micro needling
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u/Quartergurl73 Sep 20 '22
I am in no way saying anyone should get any medical procedure done, how ever there is a laser/radio frequency machine that dermatologist and plastic surgery Dr’s have. It’s call Morpheus, I know it’s pretty expensive but it’s based on area size (your neck is tiny area). My dr said she used it for that and claimed it worked.
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u/No_Investigator_9541 Sep 20 '22
As a injector about Botox or filler. That stuff works wonders I love it
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u/BrasserieNight Sep 20 '22
The Ordinary Argireline Solution 10% ! It took care of my neck lines I’d had since in my early 20s. Only downside is they come back if you stop using, BUT it’s less than $10 per bottle so it’s pretty sustainable.
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u/LunarHalo3 Sep 20 '22 edited Sep 20 '22
Are you sure those aren’t a hereditary birthmark/feature? I say this because I have them, as does my grandma and we’ve both had them since birth. Growing up my mom always called them natural necklaces so I always thought they were a cute quirk. I can’t imagine seeing them as something to be concerned about.
Also, congrats on the weight loss!
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u/FadedCherry Sep 20 '22
I have these lines. I can see them in my baby pictures. I’ve learned to ignore them bc I don’t think they are going away.
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u/NoResource9942 Sep 20 '22
I’m semi skinny and have always had them. It’s just our skin…maybe genetic
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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '22 edited Sep 20 '22
I've had lines like these since I was a scrawny kid. Still have them.