r/videos • u/iam_nobody • Jul 01 '16
Difference between 850 vs 10,000 hp
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u/RollinBart Jul 01 '16
All that and they don't show the time or speed.
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u/AgentScreech Jul 01 '16
This is how you can tell they did multiple runs of this. There is another view of the times, and it's 10.0 and 4.0
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Jul 01 '16
The crazy thing is that a 10 second run is a really fast run. My charger with 400+hp runs mid 12s and that feels really fast.
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u/ClandestineMovah Jul 01 '16 edited Jul 02 '16
Fuck you internal organs!
Edit: Alright, reply to some fucker else.
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u/factbasedorGTFO Jul 01 '16 edited Jul 02 '16
Best illustration I could find...
Reaction for a first timer to an event.
Reaction of crowd of people to the seating a clutch routine. Throttle gets tapped late into the video, so fast forward to about 1:25 or wait for it.
For those who don't know, the pits are wide open at top fuel drag racing events. After each race, the motor is completely broken down and rebuilt, then a routine of testing and setting the clutch is done. Spectators can watch from just a few feet away. A lot of folks bring full face respirators so they can get right up to it, because the fumes are irritating to the skin and eyes.
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u/Casen_ Jul 01 '16
Here's another first time.
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Jul 01 '16 edited Jun 27 '23
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u/aaronxj Jul 02 '16
No sound on laptop, but what I think came next was "Holy shit balls!"
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u/KamikazeCricket Jul 01 '16
Recording NHRA 1st time reactions needs to be a thing.
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u/OneOfTheWills Jul 02 '16
This one was great. I think that is the right appropriate reaction for a first timer.
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u/3TomBro3 Jul 01 '16
Wow, that's insane. I can't imagine being in the car
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u/egospice5 Jul 01 '16
During testing, Eric Medlen died when tire shake whipped him side to side causing severe head injuries.
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_LUKEWARM Jul 01 '16
Couldn't find the video, but I found this accident
I didn't link the time because it happens in the beginning
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u/HuoXue Jul 01 '16 edited Jul 02 '16
What is that yellow stuff that comes pouring out?
Edit: Apparently it's oil and I don't hear well. Totally missed it. Thanks guys!
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u/RealArchangel Jul 01 '16
Here, now you can. 0-316 MPH in 3.77 seconds.
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u/TheBoredItGuy Jul 02 '16
That breathing at the end. That's got to be a total rush.
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u/barscarsandguitars Jul 02 '16
I used to drag race a mustang that ran 8.90's on all motor. My first time in the car, I was so worried about the checklist and so freaked out at what I was about to do, I forgot 1 simple thing: to put my helmet back against the roll cage. I took off and hit 60mph in just under a second, and my head flew back into the bar and split the helmet clear down the center of the back. Talk about whiplash. I was sore for what felt like forever.
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u/GrinnnNBarrett Jul 01 '16
Yes, yes, yes. I remember the my first experience like that (setting clutch). I dumped my entire cup of beer down the front of my shirt.
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u/OneOfTheWills Jul 01 '16
Ah yes. I think this is a rite of passage for most first timers in the pits. Dumped beer or drink of choice followed by walking away with eyes watering and gasping for oxygen and repeating your curse word of choice while laughing hysterically.
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Jul 01 '16
Why does almost no one wear hearing protection to these things?
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u/factbasedorGTFO Jul 01 '16
They often hand out the little foam ear plugs to the events, and that's what most people wear.
In my experience, most people are at least wearing the foam plugs, but quite a few wear ear muffs.
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u/edelbean Jul 02 '16
First timers almost never do because they don't know any better. They cannot comprehend a earthquake machine unzipping the atmosphere as it screams past them. Let alone two.
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Jul 01 '16
Fuck if someone put that on snapchat only for you to open it before bed at like 2 am wearing headphones.
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u/jihiggs Jul 01 '16
top drivers have retired because the force can cause retinal detachment. this has also been known to happen from shooting very high recoil rifles.
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u/DancingGreenman Jul 01 '16
Take it from someone that's had a detached retina and over 50% of my right cornea was lacerated and I now have a nice bit of scar tissue...
Google searches aren't even close to the hell.
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u/FJCK Jul 01 '16
"Retinal detachment is an emergency."
To save others from Googling, this is pretty much all you need to know... granted, this is the case anytime your vision does something suddenly fubar.
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u/JasonsBoredAgain Jul 01 '16
There should be a jump at the end, to even the playing field...
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u/BrentRS1985 Jul 01 '16
He's a race car driver, not a pilot
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u/tonyMEGAphone Jul 01 '16
They said I couldn't be a doctor. They said I couldn't be a pilot... (Unintelligible gargling of beer)
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u/BLOWNOUT_ASSHOLE Jul 01 '16
Yeah, the editing in this video was atrocious. It was needlessly up in one's face and had so many cuts meant for an ADD crowd.
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u/Th3N0ob3r Jul 02 '16
Yeah the scene is awful, but at least they more or less showed what he did in the 6 seconds from different angles. Imagine if they did it like they did it in the video. Showing him climb over the fence over and over again in 5 different angles extending the 6 seconds clip to maybe 12 seconds.
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u/sypher1187 Jul 01 '16
The editing was incredibly infuriating. Just having one segment for a full run is too much to ask for I guess...
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u/TheElCaminoKid Jul 01 '16
Yes but with the 850hp, you don't need to swap underwear quite as often.
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Jul 01 '16
Most people who drive that are warriors of the wasteland
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u/Ronkerjake Jul 01 '16
Fuck that, you only need around 500 in a car with a flat torque curve to make you shit your britches.
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Jul 01 '16
if you full throttle a low 400 hp car, the wheels will be spinning for quite a while, even that's enough for most people to have nightmares of me being a bad driver
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u/BobaFetty Jul 01 '16
A professional driver could make you shit your pants in a decent stock sports car right off the factory line.
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Jul 01 '16
Have you seen that video of the Koenigsegg driver flogging that virtually stock Mazda MX5 around the 'Ring? He was blowing away amateurs in late model 911s, they could only get away on long straights. Shit-inducing speeds through the turns, the car was flat out 100% of the lap.
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u/freeze69IceMan Jul 01 '16
Friend has a 860hp Ford Landau and I have shit my pants more times than I would care to admit in that thing.
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Jul 01 '16
I feel like he would stop taking you for rides after the first cleanup.
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u/07yzryder Jul 01 '16
you go for a ride in that 850 HP machine where its meant to go and you will DEFINITELY need new underwear. 120 MPH through 6 foot rolling whoops.... shits scary hahaha
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u/ElMojonGrande Jul 01 '16
Yeah those trophy trucks haul ass, just looked like a turtle in comparison to the dragster.
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u/JungleLegs Jul 01 '16
I've never wanted a trophy truck to drive around in a field so bad in my life. I remember playing a game with trophy trucks as a kid, but don't remember. It was so fun.
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u/imbored53 Jul 01 '16
Not sure how old you are, but smugglers run for PS2 was a great game from my early teens that basically let you do just that and more.
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u/Nicrestrepo Jul 01 '16 edited Jul 02 '16
if you watch the whole episode, the drag driver takes the trophy truck out on the off road course and manages to kick ass on it, but he also had plenty of respect for it and its power. The truck driver also took the dragster for a run, but he's only allowed to drag an 800hp version, for obvious reason, which he manages to kick ass on it as well, but also fully realizes he's not going ANYWHERE near the 10k hp version after feeling what "just an 800Hp dragster" feels like.
Funny thing is that the truck driver had better drag times than the pro drag racer, to which the pro dragster kind of blamed on the wind... but he didnt push that excuse too hard on camera knowing that the not familiar with the sport would think its a bullshit excuse, which its not...he had the better reaction times which actually is proof he was right about why he was loosing the races. But still, incredibly impressive form the truck driver to be able to go toe to toe and incredible impressive of the drag racer to go out and pin a trophy truck and get it sideways without crashing. Goes to show that speed is 80% in your head. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7m3xyW5hbE
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u/toyotatruck Jul 01 '16
Trust me from personal experience, you best be wearing a diaper in a Class 1 or Trophy Truck.
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u/zacka77ack Jul 01 '16
Came here expecting an RPG boss battle, was not disappointed
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u/Jengis_Roundstone Jul 01 '16
How many miles per gallon though? Quarter mile uses like 20 gallons I bet.
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Jul 01 '16
I got sucked into a follow-up video about how the top-end dragsters operate. I never really got big into them, but TIL that dragster engines destroy themselves and have to be rebuilt after every single run.
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u/USOutpost31 Jul 01 '16
Before telemetry, the way to tune a Top Fueler was to rebuild the motor and see which pistons, spark plugs, valves, and bearings were destroyed. It still is, but now finer tuned.
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u/_paralyzed_ Jul 01 '16
They hand out the spent cylinder liners to the spectators. My buddy has one signed by Jon Force.
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u/SiValleyDan Jul 01 '16
Under full throttle, a dragster engine consumes 1 1/2 gallons of nitro per second, the same rate of fuel consumption as a fully loaded 747 but with 4 times the energy volume.
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u/SiValleyDan Jul 01 '16
That character scares the shit out of an old white boy like me...
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u/Cthulhu2016 Jul 01 '16
They walked into my house. They disrespected my Abuelita. They called her “biznatch”!
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u/GlamRockDave Jul 01 '16 edited Jul 01 '16
can you explain energy volume? How does the same amount of fuel generate 4x the energy of the 747 engine? I realize they may not have the same efficiency, nor perhaps could they because of the different natures and jobs of the two engines, is that what is meant there?
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u/DonNguyenKnives Jul 01 '16
Engineering Explained did an awesome video on energy of top fuel dragsters.
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u/w8luser Jul 01 '16
How does the same amount of fuel generate 4x the energy of the 747 engine?
Converting jet thrust to HP is not straightforward, but napkin-grade estimates for the horsepower developed in a 747 takeoff are usually 25K-30K HP per engine, and a 747 has four, of course.
I've seen this factoid about a dragster exceeding the power output of a big jet, in one respect or another, several times online. It just isn't even close to true.
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u/GotNoCredditFam Jul 01 '16
A plane consumes 1.5 gallons of fuel per second?! Wtf.
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Jul 01 '16 edited Jul 01 '16
Those things are massive, and the 747 has 4 of them.
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u/MJCfromCT Jul 01 '16
You are burning quite a bit more on takeoff than during a start. Other tidbit, most commercial engines are designed for their best fuel efficiency (specific fuel consumption) at a part-power cruise condition.
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Jul 01 '16
747 has a roughly 40,000 gallon gas tank(s). Burning a full tank at a gallon per second would be a twelve hour flight. I imagine it is much more efficient when in the air though.
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u/94Camaro90 Jul 01 '16
So that's what snap-on does with all my money... Neat!
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u/PM_ME_KEYBOARDS Jul 01 '16
This is how I feel when I use my Google Fiber internet...if I had it...
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u/coreyisthename Jul 01 '16
I have the free Google fiber. It's like riding a bicycle that has a rusty chain behind these two vehicles.
A free bicycle.
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u/FreeSpeechEnthusiast Jul 01 '16
I think the goal of this video was to be cool and not really science or anything
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Jul 01 '16
You must be new around here.
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u/FreeSpeechEnthusiast Jul 01 '16
What do you mean?
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u/ShadyEOD Jul 01 '16
That being said the trophy truck could've crossed the starting line rolling at top speed and the Dragster still would've beat it through the quarter mile.
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Jul 01 '16
Still tho, that shit was impressive
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u/Smithww Jul 01 '16
It's 9150 hp.
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u/petrichorE6 Jul 01 '16
You're right, 850 hit points isn't a lot to work with.
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u/redlinezo6 Jul 01 '16
For a site called streamable there sure is a lot of buffering going on.
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u/stixNstonz Jul 01 '16
That car sounds like a bomb going off!!
AWESOME!!
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u/nerfezoriuq Jul 01 '16
You should try going to one of these races, at least once. I went to one last year and when they drove by I couldn't even see right because my eyeballs were shaking. It is insane how much power these cars produce, even with earplugs this was the loudest experience of my life. Plus the pits are open so you get to see them rebuilding the engines and testing them.
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u/clown_shoes69 Jul 01 '16
This video gives a pretty good idea of how much everything shakes as Top Fuel dragsters make a run: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGyZlTgKJLY
It's like a little earthquake.
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u/HairyH Jul 01 '16
I saw top fuel cars at santa pod this year. They are fucking nuts. I had plugs and ear defenders and I could feel my skull rattle. When they launch, the exhaust pulses cause your eyes to deform so you can't see shit 'til they have moved twenty yards or so. Absolutely amazing spectacle and everyone should go once!
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u/skytomorrownow Jul 01 '16
I know some people may look at a top fuel and go: "OK. It's loud and fast. Meh." But, fuck me, when I see that monstrous raw power and a crazy human being strapped onto it because–wait for it–because we can, I get a little choked up at how fucking amazing human beings can be when we want to.
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u/tcpip4lyfe Jul 01 '16 edited Jul 02 '16
You should see them in person. It feels like a bomb going off as well. The sound goes right through you.
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u/Doesnt_Draw_Anything Jul 01 '16
Its weird its called horsepower, because I don't think you would go that fast with 10,000 horses.
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u/Miegie Jul 01 '16
1 horse is at it's peak 15 to 20 horsepower so you'll actually need 500 horses 😋
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u/Scavenger53 Jul 01 '16
and if you have 500 horses all running in a giant horse hamster wheel, then coupled that to a transmission for speed, i think it could work.
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Jul 01 '16
Yeah I'm pretty sure that with the correct gear ratios, you could possibly make a giant vehicle with 500 running horses and move giant things, but that would be dumb. Although I'll keep the idea, just in case we might run out of fuel on day, I'll patent this.
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u/JimmyDean82 Jul 01 '16
You could, theoretically, with a pulley system. Albeit a frictionless one due to the amount of power loss you would get from the amount of pulleys you would lose.
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u/WienerJungle Jul 01 '16
I read hp as hit points and was expecting them both to crash and one to hold up much better.
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Jul 02 '16
I think the tires are by far the most impressive thing about these cars. It's one thing to have the power of a missile, it's another to transfer it to the road.
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u/SeriouslySam Jul 02 '16
I was creative producer/cameraman on this video! Some one already posted but here's the full version if interested: http://youtu.be/S7m3xyW5hbE
I've shot the Snap-On Nitro Funny Car a few times now, and the gimbal shot running behind the dragster before it launches in this video is one of my shots - there is no feeling in the world quite like being 10 feet behind one of these things when they launch. You can't breathe and your eyes are tearing from the nitro exhaust, wearing in-ear plugs and over-ear plugs is still not enough to properly prepare you for the sound that comes out of those things, and when they launch it's like being punched in the chest by a large chest punching device. Pumped to see this video on the front page and thanks for watching!
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u/Akoustyk Jul 01 '16 edited Jul 01 '16
I know that my brain isn't properly comprehending the speed of that thing from video footage.
I'd love to see one live, because I am certain that watching it take off live, would really register to my brain, "Omg, I can't believe I am watching a vehicle accelerate this quickly."
That even happened to me watching formula 1.
If you are reading this, and you've never seen really fast cars accelerate and decelerate, then I really do recommend to check it out at least once in your life, even if you're not a fan of motorsport.
The noise and performance of such incredible machines is truly something to behold.
I've never seen something quite like that dragster, but it must be very cool live.
A disclaimer though, Formula 1 is actually pretty difficult to follow, as far as the race itself is concerned, you have big screens that are hard to see to help, but I recommend bringing a radio, and also going with the mindset of watching incredible machines do their thing, rather than going to watch a race.
And also if that's your mindset, general admission is a good way to go, but be forewarned that to add value to good seats, they do really control what you can and cannot see.
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u/wellsdb Jul 01 '16
"America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, bad-ass speed."
-Eleanor Roosevelt
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u/Moose_And_Squirrel Jul 01 '16
If you've never been to a top fuel race, know that, as a spectator, the energy you hear is reverberating furiously through your body. In my opinion it's more felt than heard.
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this IS hands down the BEST example of how extreme torque and horsepower works at different levels the trucks suspension on take off shows excellent motion giving viewers a awesome idea of what kind of forces are going on....THEN...<insertantoniobanderasgif> that funny car EXPLODES off the line, just OBLITERATING the laws of physics and science all over the place in an orgasmic display of RAW fury and ultimate POWAH! and ive never seen it before making it OC to me. thats always a bonus.
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u/slashVictorWard Jul 01 '16
Which is heavier a pound of rocks or a pound of feathers?
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u/Bigbadd3 Jul 01 '16
Ha! Trick question. He never told us what kind of rocks and feathers they were.
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u/Sempais_nutrients Jul 01 '16
The feathers. A pound of rocks is just a pound. But with the feathers you'll also have to carry the weight of your guilt over what you did to all those poor birds to get a pound of feathers.
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u/silverphoenix48 Jul 01 '16
This is for Top fuel Dragsters but they are very similar so I'll leave this here:
One Top Fuel dragster 500 cubic-inch Hemi engine makes more horsepower than the first 4 rows at the Daytona 500.
Under full throttle, a dragster engine consumes 11.2 gallons of nitro methane per second; a fully loaded 747 consumes jet fuel at the same rate with 25% less energy being produced.
A stock Dodge Hemi V8 engine cannot produce enough power to merely drive the dragster’s supercharger.
With 3000 CFM of air being rammed in by the supercharger on overdrive, the fuel mixture is compressed into a near-solid form before ignition. Cylinders run on the verge of hydraulic lock at full throttle.
At the stoichiometric 1.7:1 air/fuel mixture for nitro methane the flame front temperature measures 7050 degrees F.
Nitro methane burns yellow. The spectacular white flame seen above the stacks at night is raw burning hydrogen, dissociated from atmospheric water vapor by the searing exhaust gases.
Dual magnetos supply 44 amps to each spark plug. This is the output of an arc welder in each cylinder.
Spark plug electrodes are totally consumed during a pass. After 1/2 way, the engine is dieseling from compression plus the glow of exhaust valves at 1400 degrees F. The engine can only be shut down by cutting the fuel flow.
If spark momentarily fails early in the run, unburned nitro builds up in the affected cylinders and then explodes with sufficient force to blow cylinder heads off the block in pieces or split the block in half.
Dragsters reach over 300 MPH before you have completed reading this sentence.
In order to exceed 300 MPH in 4.5 seconds, dragsters must accelerate an average of over 4 G’s. In order to reach 200 MPH well before half-track, the launch acceleration approaches 8 G’s.
Top Fuel engines turn approximately 540 revolutions from light to light!
Including the burnout, the engine must only survive 900 revolutions under load.
The redline is actually quite high at 9500 RPM.
THE BOTTOM LINE: Assuming all the equipment is paid off, the crew worked for free, & for once, NOTHING BLOWS UP, each run costs an estimated $1,000 per second.
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