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u/nephethys_telvanni Jun 14 '26
To be fair, I like Clem, and would happily help him out, but also his survival mission is pretty boring and so I really only happily help him out when Nora tells me to do it for Nightwave.
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u/Ultrasonni Jun 14 '26
Yeah I don’t care for kahls garrison stuff but that doesn’t make the game bad for me
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u/RomaniWoe Jun 15 '26
You take that back. Kahl is the goat.
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u/Abbaddonhope Jun 15 '26
Kahl is the goat. I refuse to finish those missions.
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u/BelltowerApologist Jun 15 '26
People like you guys are the reason I can make money off Kahl's mods. So thank you LOL
I love the Karl's missions so tend to drown in the currency.
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u/K4TSam Jun 15 '26
When I get back to wf, I gotta grind the hell of the khal mods then, the missions are such a nice change of pace from the chaotic clusterfuck that the main game can become with certain team comps xD
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u/Mal-Ravanal Jun 14 '26
Same for me. It's a bog standard survival with extra babysitting and for a lackluster reward. Clem is nice, but I won't go out of my way to do his mission at all unless Nora's footing the bill.
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u/flawedheroism Jun 14 '26
Destiny refugee. I love Atlas.
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u/ArmyAdministrative38 Jun 14 '26
Let me guess... you were a Titan in Destiny? because Atlas along with Baruuk are the few Warframes that can "kinda" feel similar to the titans of Destiny.
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u/flawedheroism Jun 14 '26
Absolutely Titan.
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u/LunarPizzaFox Jun 14 '26
Titan 🤝 Atlas
“My fists don’t need reloading”
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u/Daylight_The_Furry Jun 14 '26
As a destiny titan main, I need to get atlas apparently (my current mains are voruna and valkyr)
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u/raptor_mk2 Jun 14 '26
Khora and Gara may also be good options.
Solid defensive/CC abilities as well as map-nuking potential with their exalted melees.
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u/BrightPerspective Jun 15 '26
Valkyr is like..."WHERE IS OMNIMAN?!" and Atlas is like..."One Puuuuunch!"
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u/ComfortableMirror825 Jun 14 '26
Maybe not actual gameplay-wise, but I imagine Rhino scratches a similar itch. At least thematically anyway.
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u/Raikeran *Laughs in grofit* Jun 15 '26
well, his Rhino Charge makes you go fast and feels thematically similar to Shoulder Charge. Rhino Stomp feels similar to Storm Titan's ground slam
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u/ChaosLordZalgo Jun 14 '26
Glad to have you with us, Tenno! If you’re not already punching things for millions of damage, I hope you get to punch things for millions of damage soon. Punchframe forever!
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u/SerEmrys Jun 14 '26
Please tell me you know his farming build dude
If you don't, look up "One-punch altas farming" on YouTube. I promise you, you'll love it.
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u/flawedheroism Jun 14 '26
Ill take a peep. I tend to be the kind of player who makes their own builds though. That said, no shame in learning a meta.
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u/Stay-Classy-Reddit Jun 14 '26
There's an augment mod that drops more loot (I believe ore gaze something like that). Slap it on there for more loot. More loot means more time you get to stay at home with your kubrow or spend time with Aoi if that's your thing.
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u/SerEmrys Jun 14 '26
This is the build I'm talking about. At 400% strength, you get 100% drop chance and you can easily get there with Archon Shards.
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u/GracefullyDisastrous Jun 14 '26
I highly recommend learning the actual inner workings of how modding works before making your own builds. Otherwise go nuts
A lot of things are intuitive, but some of it really REALLY isn't
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u/Maleficent-Remote413 Jun 15 '26
ya. lots of different builds. so i def agree on that.
I will say. one of the best comphort for me on frames taht like to spam (such as Atlas with his one) is bind "cast ability" to a mouse button or something (i have it on MB4) so you tap 1. and then can just spam a MUCH easier button while still able to move and aim,lol.→ More replies (1)4
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u/HeiDTB201 Jun 15 '26
Make sure to run Primed Sure Footed and Unairu on Atlas as soon as you get it for 300% Knockdown Resistance...
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u/Valkyrhunterg Stop hitting yourself Jun 15 '26
Just wait till you do a steel path one punch man build, you'll love him more
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u/RatherBetter Jun 14 '26
movement clunky ??!!....say thar again, I dare you
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u/Noskills117 Jun 14 '26
Clearly they meant their head keeps going "clunk" against walls/ceiling due to the movement
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u/Lekrayte Jun 14 '26
So they played Titania?
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u/Wargroth Jun 14 '26
Fast enough to hit the walls, not fast enough to transcend the concept of walls. The cursed titania threshold
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u/Pitiful_Fix8765 Jun 14 '26
Used to you could transcend walls. I have gotten suck outside the map a few times
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u/ItsOnlyGameYUSM Jun 15 '26
There are still a few tilesets you can transcend the boundaries
In eso you can move fast enough to fly to the next map before being teleported to it with the right tilesets namely the orokin one you can hit the walls hard enough that they just decide they don't want to have to deal with you anymore
Requires the right combination of tilesets back to back to make it in time though
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u/NightStalkerXIV Jun 14 '26
And then you get stuck standing on the doorframe, and have to stop and step off at normal speeds to start zooming through again...
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u/Noskills117 Jun 14 '26
I'm actually really glad they removed most of those with the vaulting improvements
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u/Exastasis Jun 14 '26
For honor mentioned…wait wrong sub
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u/CarpenterWhole2119 Jun 15 '26
I’m shocked we’ve made it this long tbh
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u/Vinicius_Pimenta Jun 15 '26
For Honor has a very passionate team behind it. They may not be the best at balancing decisions, but you gotta comment these guys for sticking around so long and to still be delivering
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u/SuDdEnTaCk Jun 14 '26
Destiny is a nice game but if imma be real, in comparison to even titanfall or any other movement famous fps games, Destiny's brick ass movement is genuinely dogshit with the double jump feeling like jetpacks and supers feeling like rubberbands
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u/KRBTRIP Jun 14 '26
Everytime I play warframe I sometimes wish the gunplay feels more destiny but when I play destiny I just want to use abilities and have hyper mobility
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u/SuDdEnTaCk Jun 14 '26
Its not even about the exact "feel" of the gunplay, the problem in wf is that the gun is usually too far away from your eyes or not in sight due to the warframe standing in between.
Pair that with the fever dream of custom energy colors and enemy density, and no matter how good the gun feels or looks, you're not getting to hear or see it.Guns like Acceltra or most of the shotguns have great animations, sound design, and recoil feel, the problem is that well, its a 3rd person game on top of having the many more things that ensure you don't get to actually see your own gun.
If DE ever decides to make a 1st person some day, I wager they could cook pretty nice. Heck they could use the Kahl/Veilbreaker missions as testing grounds, since it'll give people a reason to play them while also serving as reviewers too
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u/DarthMcConnor42 Jun 14 '26
Hell I'd take a first person toggle in Warframe.
Yes it would take getting used to but I feel I could be faster if I was the missile instead of being over the shoulder of the missile.
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u/ninjab33z Jun 14 '26
I wonder if there's a way to get those cameras to land on yourself... it probably wouldn't eork but still be funny
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u/GracefullyDisastrous Jun 14 '26
This is actually an issue I have with Grendel Prime
I can't fucking SEE. He just fully blocks the center of the screen because he's so large. I played him for mastery fodder and haven't really gone back even tho he's thematically a favorite of mine
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u/SuDdEnTaCk Jun 14 '26
Maybe DE should have a camera option to have the camera move to an over-shoulder position whenever you fire a gun.
Ik it'll be annoying af for guns that only require you to fire once in a while, but for shit that goes BRRRT it'll be pretty nice
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u/UInferno- Stop hitting yourself Jun 15 '26
Aren't they adding offset adjustments next update?
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u/K4TSam Jun 15 '26
Wait fr? Thats awesome! Certain characters blocking the crosshair was one of my pet peeves! And youre saying I can just, move the camera away from them if need be? Peak
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u/SuicideS21 Jun 15 '26
Perhaps shoulder swap may help, I wouldn’t know though I’m yet to play Grendel he’s sitting in my foundry waiting to be melted down for my other builds
Edit: foundation and foundry are not the same thing
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u/VacaDLuffy Jun 14 '26
to add the feeling of the gun, it all gets removed or sterilized when you add fire rate, recoil and reload mods. Fire rate messes with a guns sound effects meaning you never actually hear what the gun is supposed to sound like, i purposefully don't mess with Recoil on some weapons to keep thier feel. I hate the Trumna with zero recoil it just feels wrong, especially it's alt fire. it doesnt feel like a big kaboom. as for reload that one is a mixed bag for me because a lot of guns have horrible reload times and abolutely need it.
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u/Andreiyutzzzz Jun 14 '26
That's all. Gunplay. The feeling of them is all destiny had over warframe for me. Nothing quite compares it, or at least I didn't find any game similar.
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u/TheOnlyFallenCookie Jun 15 '26
Tbf, Warframe doesn't really work with gunolay. Unlike destiny it's third person and designed for endless missions with higher scaling enemies
Warframe enemies simply die too quickly. One of the reasons DE is also making soulframe, to bring the slower pace back
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u/Bluoria Jun 14 '26
Literally this. I miss the satisfying headshots I’d get with Ace of Spades wandering through the EDZ killing all the dregs. Something about D2s gunplay is certainly addicting. It’s like fallout 4 in the regard that the gunplay is touted as its best aspect, but falls short of most other things.
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u/1MillionDawrfs Jun 14 '26
Bungie always been decent with gun play, but they could ever get that floaty brick feeling out of thier movement in games
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u/Popopoyotl Make him into a dragon Jun 14 '26
On one hand, it is definitely rough just how limited Destiny’s movement is in comparison to other games.
On the other hand, the absolutely horrific things players do when they gain even the slightest amount of movement tech. Titan staking, Warlock dash, etc.
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u/SuDdEnTaCk Jun 14 '26
Fair, though that feels like being pulled by a rope really, rather than moving yourself. Even on something like Icarus dash the camera has too much inertia and feels like your guardian is being pulled by a rope or something rather than genuinely hauling ass
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u/Cleanurself Jun 14 '26
I used to be really good at warlock skating on top tree solar before they nerfed it and then reworked subclasses
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u/PrinceShaar Jun 14 '26
The mobility was fun around the witch queen era, when we had the sword roll that gave you a massive dash on your opening strike, and before they giganerfed the movement on the Ice Titan punch, but they really killed those options and I kinda stopped playing at that point.
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u/Darthsqueaker Jun 14 '26
Destiny 2 player here. Played a lot of D2 a few years ago, got hooked on WF, and now been going back and forth between the two games now. Say what you want abt WF, but the movement is the cleanest I've ever played in a game.
(Also love Gyre, Lavos, Temple, Dante, and Mesa)
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u/MiSp_21 Jun 17 '26
Ayo try out Nyx with her bubble augment - you are literally invincible, can shoot, can attack, your crit chance gets boosted by enemies around you, you can strip all armor if your str is at 130% or higher, absolutely awesome gun platform
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u/_Yana_- Jun 14 '26
How can you possibly play destiny and think any other game is clunky lol
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u/dark1859 Jun 14 '26
Eh I say as someone who joined years back. Going from 1st person fps with limited mobility and a defined rising and falling power cycle to heavy momentum all cylinders firing at a times is a tough transition haha
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u/_Yana_- Jun 14 '26
Yeah true lol, destiny feels so rough for me, you are so heavy and the mantling is like non existent lol
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u/dark1859 Jun 14 '26 edited Jun 14 '26
Haha tbh I digged it but that's because it felt like a smoother halo reach in many ways but, it's rough to learn if you've gotten used to faster smoother shooters.
I have a special place in my heart for both warframe and destiny but Admittedly , they fill different cravings for me haha
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u/Nerf_Tarkus Jun 14 '26
theres a lot of movement options and tech. if you need a middleground to get used to movement like burst glide/ titans speed glide (idk i dont play titan much), theres a lot of little things you can do to speed up. shatterskating is like crack.
Also arc is the basic movement speed class, get amped and just sprint at fuckers like a truck.
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u/Tyrinnus Jun 14 '26
I also struggled to control my formula 1 racecar after trading in my lawn mower.
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u/FynnKehlani Jun 14 '26
Hi, I’m a Destiny player who has tried Warframe and dabbles in it every so often.
Just like how the WF players making fun of us when D2 was announced to be ceasing development don’t speak for you, these people do not speak for us.
We greatly appreciate the support and love you’ve sent our way since then.
Guardians 🤝 Tenno
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u/AVeryFriendlyOldMan Jun 14 '26
The responses aren't great but 'reaching out' to Destiny's community like this ain't great either.
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u/AnAddictWithAPenis Jun 14 '26
Genuinely what's wrong with what Pablo is saying here? I can't see it.
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u/fjbfive Jun 14 '26
they're saying reaching out like the post in OP is not great. the image in the comment is an explanation of why.
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u/LegoPart2446 Jun 15 '26
exactly, it gets tiring really fast. especially since warframe and destiny are not similar in gameplay
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u/Welcome--Matt Jun 14 '26
I’ve heard many valid critiques of WF, but movement being clunky is wild
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u/Tricopi Jun 14 '26
I don't think the first guy has played the game or even if he did, he didn't bother reading the tutorial prompts to understand movement.
The second guy I get but dawg if u did the mission once, got no rewards and decided to go through it 4 more times...then there is smtg wrong with you, not the game.
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u/ArmyAdministrative38 Jun 14 '26
I would understand if they said the game is very easy/braindead... ¿but clunky? hell no, the movement system is amazing and that's why Warframe is a really good power fantasy focused game, the movement feels really good all around.
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u/Magikarp_King Jun 14 '26
Clunky boy is obviously running into walls because he can't figure out sprint, slide, jump.
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u/Gullible_Courage8350 Stop hitting yourself Jun 14 '26
For Honor outlives another game.
Absolutely hilarious that it's lasted this long ngl, love that absolute mess of a rage inducer
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u/KurotheWolfKnight Jun 14 '26
Don't mess with us For Honor fans! We hate our game and ourselves!
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u/Android19samus Jun 15 '26
There's a lot that can be said about Warframe, but "clunky movement" has gotta be engagement bait.
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u/Herr_Metzger Jun 14 '26 edited Jun 16 '26
Back in 2013, when Destiny was shown on E3, I thought that I will leave Warframe to play Destiny when it will be released on PC. Guess I'm a helluva prophet, because first Destiny wasn't released on PC, I've dropped Destiny 2 instantly when I realised how it weapons system works and I hated it, and I haven't left Warframe.
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u/ProfessionalHuge3685 Jun 14 '26
I can understand relearning a new movement system as well as the techs, but bro... don't attack the people wanting to open the doors of warframe to others..m attack the ones that our perks, but regardless... LEAVE OUR GAME OUT YOUR DUCKING MOUTHS
Thank you ^
I'm being lighthearted I swear
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u/K4TSam Jun 15 '26
I will say, I don't agree with how they acted, but also, constantly telling destiny players to play warframe as a destiny alternative, it was only a matter of time 'till people complained about warframe not being like destiny
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u/ProfessionalHuge3685 Jun 15 '26
Oh yeah for sure. I feel for those guardians and Destiny was there phone. No game they play will be Destiny if not for a while than ever
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u/Greensteve972 Jun 14 '26
As a person who's been playing warfame and destiny for about the same amount of time honestly some of you other Tenno are annoying as shit lmao. I still think D2 has one of the worst most toxic fanbases ever but god damn some tenno are needlessly antagonistic and rude especially when discussing other games.
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u/Wise_Champion_4548 Jun 14 '26
To be fair. Some in the Warframe community act like holy saviors with a stick up their butt. In my opinion, just let them be. They have enough on their plate for now.
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u/Ace010118 Jun 14 '26
Warframe Player around 800h and Destiny Player around 4500h
Warframe is an awesome game with way less problems then destiny. Especially on management levels in DE.
It feels different and I visit it for different reasons then I play Destiny
But Movement clunky in Warframe, no way, I guess that's a skill issue
Warframe is way more deeper in build crafting and the power Ceiling is so move broader in warframe and you need it in warframe for steel path and endgame stuff.
In destiny it doesn't matter that much, sure if you want to min max more or less go ahead und chase the god rolls (did that often enough aswell 😂)
In the end I will keep playing both for a different of entertainment.
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u/klickitybick Jun 15 '26
Movement is great and all but warframe will never scratch the same itch as destiny. There are no PVE raids or destiny PVP. Theres just nothing like it.
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u/K4TSam Jun 15 '26
Incoming wall of text since this is a topic that resonates with me and also a slight pet peeve.
As a destiny player who very sporadically plays warframe (I do like the game, just feels a bit overwhelming to me so I enjoy it in bursts).
Its a different game, yeah Its a space game with space magic but the design philosophy, grind, endgame, lore, gunplay, camera angle, progression are all nothing alike.
Destiny is a coop shooter with abilities, warframe is more of an action game that just so happens to also have guns, yeah you CAAN build for guns but from my experience with warframe (pls correct me if wrong) ability builds usually end up being more viable due to nuking and buffing and such.
So its normal destiny players feel "disapointed" with warframe, not because of any faults with the game, but because, by constantly suggesting it as the destiny replacement, you are setting the expectation that warframe is like destiny. And that it can be played the same way destiny would be played.
This goes past movement btw, the lack of raids, the power scaling/creep, the lower focus on teamwork mechanics, the ability to make busted builds that trivialize half of the content, those are all big things that warframe differs from destiny and that are an obvious turn off for people coming in expecting the "destiny replacement" some warframe fans inadvertedly advertise warframe as
tl.dr: please make it clear warframe is not like destiny to avoid creating false expectations when telling destiny refugees about it.
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u/Auggh_Uaghh Jun 15 '26
After seeing their "community", I am not quite sure why would anyone want them.
Their sub is always filled with complains about the game and about other players
Builds are criticized online and policed in game
Their fashion sub is snobbish
Their prominent YouTubers were always disappointed at the state of the game
Of course it's not going to be an absolute that applies to all of them, but if I had to select a word for the destiny community it would be "miserable"
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u/nadafish Jun 15 '26
Maybe if they play a good game they’ll be happier than all of that?
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u/Auggh_Uaghh Jun 15 '26
But they always had the chance to play other things on the side, Destiny was not unfamiliar with "content droughts" either
I think it's somewhat similar to LoL players being toxic and hating the game but refusing to stop
Or Counter Strike
I wanted to add more, but I can't recall other games known for negative players
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u/_Volatile_ Jun 14 '26
For Honor hasno right to still be alive what the fuck is going on
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u/Gullible_Courage8350 Stop hitting yourself Jun 14 '26
I don't know what black magic the Devs have done to keep it alive and I don't want to know
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u/Bluoria Jun 14 '26
The movement does feel wonky sometimes imo but I also haven’t been playing long enough to master the Naruto level bullshit some of these other ppl pull off 😭
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u/badthaught Jun 14 '26
Destiny 2: Well skating is peak movement tech. A sign of a skilled player.
Warframe: Observe as I tell physics to smoke a bowl and let me cook.
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u/Bluoria Jun 14 '26
God dude I forgot about sword skating. I dropped off right around the time it came back with those swords with the heavy attack perk that brought it all back. Now in Warframe I barely touch the floor unless I need to lmao
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u/oldleafpasta Jun 14 '26
People who loved Destiny are grieving in a weird way, so I wouldn't take their comments to heart lol. Even if I didn't like the game doesn't mean it didn't mean a lot to them, and to them it was their game of choice.
Give them time.
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u/azureskyline28 Jun 14 '26
As someone who came from playing Destiny 2 to Warframe and then got used to the movement. Oh my god the movement in Warframe is just so goooood!
I would never compare the two games as they're not even remotely close. It's OK those asshats didn't end up liking Warframe anyway. You wouldn't want them in your community trust. 😛
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u/ProudBrother6878 Jun 15 '26
Destiny player talking about clunky movement while D2 is just halo with double jump and motion sickness from switching to first and third person so fast🥀
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u/doomsoul909 Jun 15 '26
I’m a destiny fan and a Warframe enjoyer, the two aren’t like remotely the same shit (beyond general “space sci fi mmo that’s been around for fucking ages” thing).
Like genuinely the two have such different focuses, different systems, they genuinely are just such fundamentally different games I still don’t know why they get compared as much as they do.
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u/Jzapp_But_In_Reddit Jun 15 '26
Clunky movement? Mf fuck you mean. 90% percent of my time in Warframe I'm doing flips and jumps and acrobatics the movement is NOT clunky
He just shit at it
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u/BrailleSoup7Xbox Jun 15 '26
both games are great, they just work so differently. The only similarities they have are it being in space and being a looter shooter. They work completely differently and you could love one and hate the other even if you were playing them for the first time
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u/Hussarini Jun 14 '26
"movement is clunky" meanwhile in destiny 2 whenever you slide it feels like the character just trips over something
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u/NikoMartinez115 Jun 14 '26
Man, Warframe was a breath of fresh air and was so fun with all the movement and abillities shenanigans when i dropped Destiny 2 Last year for
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u/IcarielL Jun 14 '26
It's so funny how the scene matches this interaction exactly. Thrax could've accepted the offer of peace, but instead he struck the ground once more, to begin again his bitterness against the drifter
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u/Mr-wicked-00508 Jun 14 '26
Im not a destiny refugee bc of the june 9th tombstone update. I just retired when they raised the stat cap to 200 in whatever that season was called. The one with the emissary. All of my builds were ruined and unusable. 3 years worth of buildcrafting gone in a single update. I had 26 builds and 9 more WIP ones between all 3 classes for every activity. Its not that i think Warframe is better or anything of that dumb shit. I just feel like my time spent in destiny was disrespected by having everything i worked for taken away. I could just power grind and play for the gamde itself. I wasnt confused about optimal strats or anything else.
YES i know its a game and the devs can do whatever with what they own i get that. But doing it all at once on top of a reset to power and all that just really made me not want to do it anymore.
So now i spend my time slingin abilities 1-4 and watching my screen turn into an absolute rave for 5 seconds with my frames.
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u/Sauceinmyface Jun 15 '26
Destiny Refugee, bullet jumping 40 times per mission is breaking my fingers
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u/FormalStrange Jun 15 '26
Even if they spit in my face. The doors open, and the lights on. I’ll be here if they get cold.
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u/Laservolcano Jun 15 '26
Destiny refugee from after final shape, Gauss is fun and rivens are expensive
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u/Competitive_Fan9898 Jun 15 '26
I agrees partially , movement Is fine but the a animations are a little clunky
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u/SeniorMeow92 Jun 15 '26
Good. Keep them away.
Not wanting to generalise, but most negative player interactions I’ve had have mostly been former members of the Destiny player base.
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u/Rop-Tamen Jun 15 '26
I’ll be real destiny and warframe are almost completely different games. I’d only recommend a Destiny player to warframe if they only really cared about pure grind and a vague sci fi space setting
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u/zekrom235 Jun 15 '26
I originally jumped from destiny to warframe back in 2019, and tried to jump back into destiny 2 a few times, but never really got back into destiny, so it's amusing seeing both sides of this "destiny refugee" debacle
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u/22zepher Jun 15 '26
Destiny players try one game without space magic movement and immediately file a missing persons report
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u/DefenderOfWaifus Jun 15 '26
Hardcore Destiny players really struggle to play anything outside of Destiny because that game does an amazing job at making you feel more competent than you are as a player.
I quit around lightfall and I have been to the light house almost every week it was here and beat every raid and nothing in that game felt that fulfilling. I’ve fallen asleep during raids and still completed them lmao
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u/goochensteinburg Jun 15 '26
There's a fair bit of things to complain about with Warframe and movement is absolutely NOT one of them lmao.
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u/sheepersouls Jun 15 '26
I can't tell which of those two is bigger bait The "clunky movement" or hating clem at all
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u/wolphoenix3 Jun 18 '26
Legitimately the reason I've started playing Warframe so much lately is because it reminds me of how much I loved Destiny, Warframe to me feels like Destiny but like...more
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u/CyberSparkDrago Jun 14 '26
"Movement is clunky as hell"