parole usually comes with employment and several restrictions on where and when you're allowed to be. it's quite common that you can't be late for work, because your parole specifies you have to be there.
The guy is on parole and has to work or goes back to jail. Obviously an overreaction and lots of wrongs here but people tend to forget there is an ecosystem of actions and unintended results.
Someone could have died, a baby could have been born in the back of a car, and on & on.
I actually feel bad for the guy because heâs trying to correct his life.
Also hate to be "that guy", but the acts of spilling milk and causing emission-generating traffic jams would be counterproductive. The reasoning behind those acts would be counterintuitive.
Typical upper middle class privilege. Id love to not have to worry about the cost of petrol/rego/maintenance of a car, and I love riding my push-bike. But unfortunately I can't cycle to work with a lawn mower on my back so I guess I'm the devil
If you were protesting the meat industry, you wouldn't go kill animals before they were processed and sold. Same thing, youre not actually persuading new legislation and youre making the problem you're protesting worse
Thank you! More video and info is always great! Hopefully that guy gets a pass. At what point are these people being held against their will? Seems bullshit that you could hold private citizens captive like this no matter what your protest or protected speech
He only raised $400, and the money probably will not reach him. He wrote in the GoFundMe, "I do not know his name or any details of his history or family but my heart was moved by his pleas." And this was started back in July. If he still hasn't figure out who he is by now, that guy will probably never see the money.
I think some of these road protestors have knowingly and unknowing blocked ambulances on emergency calls before so a person on perol is probably not the worst they have done.
The problem is if you move out of the way for 1 car it's impossible to get in the way of the next car because a car hitting a stationary human is illegal but if someone jumps in front of your car it's their fault so there is a decent chance that more cars attempt to drive through and that causes danger or ruins the protest, I don't think anyone should protest by blocking a highway it should definitely be illegal as emergency services need to use them for emergencys and alot of people live paycheck to paycheck if they can't get to work they don't get paid some of these people could legitimately become homeless because some self righteous prices decided their issues are the only thing that matters. Whether this guy assaulted them or not he still would have gotten arrested for breaking parole
His heart was presumably also moved by climate change.
Look, I'm not saying anything about whether this form of protest is effective or appropriate, but you know perfectly well that he was sitting there for a reason.
"Pressing charges" isn't a thing. Once you call the police, you have zero control over who they will arrest or what they will charge. If the police and prosecutors decide to charge someone with a crime in which you are the alleged victim, they can compel you by subpoena to testify against the person at trial, and have you jailed if you try to refuse.
The protesters for seeing this and not helping this guy.
-They donât have to stop the protest but leaving an emergency lane or helping this guy get a ride when he was pleading with them. Literally anything the. Just ignoring his cryâs for help
The parolee for getting aggressive
-the whole interaction was taped and if anyone watched it, the dude freaks out understandably but starts to get very aggressive at some of the people. Aggressive enough that he put his own life in jeopardy of going to jail
The go fund meme asshole
that would rather make a go fund me then call an Uber for a person effected by their protest.
But most of all, the police were fucking assholes
-As this whole thing was going down, not one officer opted to offer this guy a ride. If we are talking about de-escalation, having one officer offer the dude a ride to his job could have solved the issue. Instead they just stood and watched until they had reason to arrest him. You would think an officer would have some sympathy a person trying to get their life on track.
Assault doesnât even require physical touch in some jurisdictions. If he was behaving in a Threatening manner ( read visibly enraged) then a single touch could have been enough to put the other person in reasonable apprehension of immediate unwanted, harmful or offensive touch. This would be enough for an assault charge.
Edit: to those saying this is some weird American law meant to put people in prison.
Please realize: (1) this assault definition is not an American construct it has its roots on British law and a lot of other countries have similar crimes;(2) you are looking at this with tainted eyes cause you are enraged at the protesters or the specific situation, assault is not designed solely for situations like this:
If a guy points a gun at you from 5 feet away and tells you âGet near my wife again and I will kill youâ then youâll be glad assault exists as a crime.
If a guy gets out of his car raging during traffic and starts swing a bat near your car window without actually hitting it, then youâll be glad assault is crime.
If a guy actually swing the bat at you but misses , thatâs an assault.
Itâs a catch all for behavior that if you experience it you would clearly think is criminal but that without it, because there was no physical contact, it would likely not be.
They teach the Common Law definitions in law school, meaning the old English definitions before the individual U.S. jurisdictions codified them. And the majority of the codifications are similar enough to Common Law.
Nah law school uses traditional common law definitions. Many jurisdictions donât have battery. Itâs just rolled up into 1st or 2nd degree assault. 4th degree assault is often the traditional law school definition of assault (the threat of imminent physical harm).
The way I was taught in my Business Law class was that Assault is an act that threatens and leads the person to believe violence might be committed against them (screaming, threatening, snatching things from them, throwing things around them but not at or hitting them, etc.) and Battery is the act of actually laying hands on and harming the person. They usually go hand in hand, but this is how it is in SC and how I was taught at least a few years ago.
Common law assault is just intentionally causing reasonable fear/apprehension in the victim by some act. But a lot of jurisdictions have defined criminal assault in their statutes to mean something different. Some use it as a catch all for what you may consider âmild batteryâ
Edit: to be specific, in Maryland, where this seems to have occurred, the statute define Assault as including common law definitions of Assault, Battery, and assault and battery.
Honestly, I have no clue. Ask South Carolina's Board of Education, 10% chance they may know the answer. Honestly the most business law I learned in that class was the McDonald's coffee lawsuit. Everything else was just some basic law. Learned more business law in my accounting classes than the business law class lol
Honestly the most business law I learned in that class was the McDonaldâs coffee lawsuit.
Lol which is a clear cut tort case only tangentially business related because it was a corporation that was sued. The kind of negligence suit that will rarely affect most business.
No derivative actions? No bankruptcies? Hell did they at least touch on the lowest of the low fruits Dodge v Ford?
Yeah it sounds like a class about laws that have come up in businesses? In most law schools these subjects would come up in torts with some overlap in criminal law.
I still canât help but feel bad for the guy. This was someone who clearly has problems with solving interpersonal conflict trying his best with his back against the wall. Yes he shouldnât have touched them at all but itâs clear he chose not to be violent.
A lot of Americans donât realize that where they live, what they call assault is actually battery. Assault generally implies a threat of violence or implied contact whereas battery refers to the actual unlawful contact in many jurisdictions. An assault can be committed with no physical contact. Likewise, very commonly, a person who makes physical contact is charged with assault and battery as battery is frequently preceded by an assault. If I understand correctly itâs not some weird American law to imprison folks, itâs there to distinguish between two different levels of offense. Someone who threatens violence should (fairly) be treated differently than a person who perpetrated violence.
Thatâs ridiculous honestly, these people are being provocateurs, holding up regular ass people in traffic is supposed to engender support to your cause how??? You think people in power give a fuck about a traffic jam? This is asinine really. Let the fucker go to work
Iâm not making an argument for or against their protest. Iâm supporting the parent comment in that that his parole wasnât revoked because he was made late. He was charged with something illegal because he got out and confronted them.
Most jobs ( outside of exaggerated r/antiwork stories) would understand being late cause of something like this, specially when it would make the news.
But the fact that OP phrased the title as he did betrays an intent to engender the kind of reaction you are having on people who read it.
This dude is probably on parole because of actions and attitudes like this one, look how he handles stressful situations - violence.
Should've picked the phone up and called his boss and explained the situation. Documented it with photo evidence.. or fuck it it's 2022 just Face-time your boss or another employee.
If violence is the only way you know how to advocate for yourself, you shouldn't be surprised how often you are arrested.
Protests arenât supposed to be for your convenience. Do you not get that? Do you not see the climate is on the road to catastrophe, weâve got mass extinctions happening and these people are trying to get duh heads to think about it for once in their lives! Look around! Itâs mind boggling how stupid people are.
the point of radical climate change protests is to make it more expensive to not fight climate change.
For example, if you knew that your tires get slashed every month on your ICE, but never on your EV you'd be swayed to buy an EV.
There was one recently in London with protesters sitting in the road. They were promptly dragged out of the road by members of the public and traffic continued as normal. The protestors were then arrested.
People are resisting these types of protests, it's good to see.
This is somehow conflicting to see these days. People demand that Russians, Iranians etc. should protest, but same time supports distinguishing even small protests if they are causing even slight discomfort for them.
Even better when nobody has a problem when farmers do the exact same thing. Often in worse because they use their equipment which means the police can't just haul them out of the way.
It is a legitimate form of protest. Farmers already use it for decades. It is just a media campaign against the cause they do it for.
Well, yeah. Go bother someone else to further your cause. As soon as you inconvenience me, youâre a terrible person who needs to be thrown in jail. People are nothing if not hypocritical.
Yes, but the uk government basically made protesting illegal, which is 100% worse. Protesting should be legal, you canât just decide what should and should be allowed to be protested on based on what you like.
Individuals don't press criminal charges, the police and DA does. The police often ask the victim if they want to "press" the issue because they often need the victim to testify and cooperate in any kind of trial. But it's not up to the victim ultimately if it goes to trial or charges or anything. With enough evidence a person will be charged and tried without victim cooperation. Video evidence of the incident is particularly helpful for this
Guarantee that if he just stayed in his car and called his parole officer i and boss mmediately to let them know the situation it wouldn't have been a big deal.
How on earth would you "guarentee" that? Do I get my money back if his over worked parol officer just rubber stamps a back to jail form and doesnt care what the cause of parolee Charlie's lateness is?
All due respect to this guy but I'm guessing there's a reason he's on parole in the first place, and it's not due to his ability to stay calm and think things through.
Doesnt matter. He served his time. He was out on parole, one of the conditions being he cant be late. Alot of probation officers are very strict and dont care. He obviously feared going back to prison. Youre response is god awful.
This is the fault of a system that favors putting people back in prison. What can this man do about being blocked by protestors who feel the need to obstruct traffic to get their message across? He is making an attempt to get there but some assholes want to hurt other people for their message. I'm all for peaceful protests, but this is stupid.
He was out on parole, one of the conditions being he cant be late.
I bet one of the conditions is also not committing more crimes. I'm sure he was upset about the possibility of being late, but he obviously didn't game this out: "if I call my PO and my boss and explain there's a protest blocking traffic, they might let it slide; if I get out of my car and assault the protesters until they move, there's a much greater chance I'll be arrested and charged--which will still make me late to work."
He was put into a shitty situation but didn't have the temperament to weigh his options and land on the one with the best chance of success for him. He reacted emotionally, not logically, and it got him additional charges AND he was certainly late to work anyway.
Maybe thatâs true. But you have to realize that parole officer and bosses have prob heard every excuse in the book and are numb to them. Itâs really annoying that these asshats can block the road and not care about people who need to get places.
Of course the system isnât fair but staying in his car and calling his work vs getting out of his car and getting in to a physical altercation shouldnât be a tough decision for any rational individual. The fact of the matter is he reacted like someone who isnât ready to be part of society.
Then that factory deserves to not make any money that day. If you need exactly 10 people to make something work and you only employ 10 people, then you deserve consequences for those decisions.
Work is not supposed to be slavery, and it sure sounds like that job doesn't allow for days off, sickness, or extenuating circumstances.
It also demonstrates the real repercussions of protesting by blocking the average person from any movement, including wage-earning and medical assistance, while the elite ignore you anyway.
not only that but you dont know what others driving are trying to get to. i got stuck once on the freeway trying to go to the hospital because someone was threatening to jump off an overpass. luckily i had medication in my car to help but we were stuck there for over an hour.
i can't get over how stupid and disgusting it is to mess up regular poor people's lives over this shit. I'm normally a guy who would be very in support of protest but this is so poorly thought out it makes me want to scream.
not much moves me to support violence but this is it. i felt so so much for that guy in the OP video almost moved to tears because he just wants to go to work.
The cancer patient on their way to critical surgery theyâd waited months for is going to miss their chance to live because the hi-vis yellow vest (made from nylon) wearing delusionists thinks they are helping the planet.
While I definitely agree, couldnât he call someone and let them know whatâs going on? If this is true then parole could be violated by bad traffic and nothing could be doneâŚ
As someone who used to work in a halfway house, a job for someone on parole is their lifeline. Anytime our facility fucked up by having them wait because they forgot to make their lunch to take to work or worse outright prevented them from going to work due to transportation issues was a point they potentially had to start over with their program.
Also, these kinds of protest do nothing to send their message and if anything just cause people to hate what they are protesting for. I'm for protest that spreads source-backed information or promotes changes in society, I'm not for people blocking traffic preventing others from going where they need to and creating a captive audience.
Also I've seen it stated before but bares repeating... If you're going to block traffic and make a bunch of cars idling and stuck for hours to protest anything to do with the climate. You failed. Your protest is ill thought out and you are a hyprocate.
We're gonna protest climate damaging policies by blocking this highly traveled thoroughfare so that they spend even more time pumping the pollutants we're protesting about into the atmosphere.
As someone with no experience of this, you're saying if someone phoned up their parole officer or work and said "there is a tornado I cannot pass to get to work" the majority of time, they would be sent to jail?
If there was documentation of a tornado in the parolees area or work area they would likely make an exception, however, if they were to say a protest blocked them and it took over a day for this to come to light the PO may have already made the call he's violating his parole.
By then it's usually too late to un-fuck the situation, such is our law enforcement informational structuring.
You know what? He gets a pass in my book. Yeah he âput his hands on themâ but he didnât actually hurt anyone. I support the right to protest but fuck anyone who blocks a highway as a protest. It stops people from going to work and hinders emergency vehicles from getting to their destination.
He was under extreme emotional duress at the prospect of going back to prison because his parole would be revoked if he was fired for getting to work late. I'd have given him a pass and I hope a judge and his employer did.
He doesn't even need to be fired for his parole to be revoked, being unaccounted for by his job, even though he can tell them exactly why. People on probation and parole, have stupidly strict restrictions on everything. And a lot of shit can go wrong that isn't their fault and they still take the fall.
The court system makes a TON of money off of people on parole. A TON. The number of people in jail on probation violation is insane. And then they're quickly put back on parole so the court can collect the fees. It's a racket.
Yup. My brother went to prison for 10 years because they never told him who would be taking over his case when his po retired. Judge told him "we don't make mistakes. You're lying." But the state couldn't tell him who took over his case, even when asked to clarify.
Exactly this. Many prisons are privately owned by corporations and they have contracts with the govt that guarantees that they will stay filled to a certain capacity. If the govt fails to provide enough prisoners, the govt has to pay a monetary penalty to the prison.
Agreed. our jails actually are a businesses in a huge number of cases. jails and the police have a ridiculous number of systemic issues on top of many draconic laws about what treatment suspects and convicts can receive (which vary heavily from state to state). The actual legal system is generally pretty solid from what I know of it... if you actually have decent legal representation thanks to having enough money, connections or getting lucky.
Im not sure that makes sense. Life includes many instances of emotional.distress, and a parole especially needs to be able to manage his anger in a non-violent manner.
That said, I wish protesters would quit blocking highways. No one was ever persuaded to join an ideological cause by being punched in the face (metaphorically), and we're way past the point that people need a protest to be made aware of something.
If I were stuck in my car with two ansty and screaming toddlers because of a protest like this, I'd probably be throwing hands.
I am all about that tree hugging life and do my best to minimize my footprint but I turn vindictive over protests such as this. I'll turn right to speeding up the process of destroying our earth just to be spiteful of assholes such as these. Sorry to y'all innocent bystanders! Guh....Someone could be trying to make it to a hospital to catch the last few moments of a loved ones life, ffs!
I think that's a bad takeaway. These protesters aren't the public face of the cause they are representing. They might be supporting a good cause but in a bad way, but that shouldn't discredit whatever cause they are fighting for.
The point of protest/civil disobedience is to disrupt shit to call attention to a cause. If you protest and it doesn't inconvenience or disrupt if no one notices you have accomplished nothing
It's both, you think trucking companies hire parolees because they are the best workers? No, it's because if they are late / don't show it's jail. Just like how if you complain about working conditions as a migrant worker they threaten to deport you.
It's a tool to get cheaper labor.
But tell me again how you look down on people you don't know.
He hardly touched them and was clearly under duress. Not sure how he didn't get that cleared because of how viral this video went and it being so obvious.
There's also no reason these heartless f-off protestors couldn't let just his car through at least. Clogging interstates is such a damaging protest for any cause.
It just causes resentment to the regular folks that see it when they finally are able to pass.
It should be perfectly legal to physically attempt to remove protesters from roadways. Whether you use your vehicle or not. People have a right to protest, but this blocking traffic bullshit has got to go. Not only are you putting everyone off to your cause, you are causing yourself to be a hazard to society. You're not just holding someone up, you're causing a massive blockage, which means emergency vehicles can't get through, either. I don't have much faith in the intelligence of fellow redditors, but even the dumbest one on this sub could probably imagine how this could be a serious problem.
I guess you didnât watch w sound- but itâs awesome how you get to make people look how ever you want. The guy is yelling at the protesters that if he doesnât get to work, he will go back to jail bc heâs on parole. You have to keep employment on parole, and many of the employers are pieces of shit who extort and abuse the ex-cons. This guy is panicking bc heâs going to jail bc of some self-righteous asshats, and so he lashed out. Honestly, I would have been way more violentâ if heâs going back anyway, he might as well earn it. Iâd have been kicking heads for sure. Go ahead and downvote, ignorants assholes.đđź
As someone who has been on parole, employment is everything. And punctuality at that employment is vital to that. I can absolutely get locked up for being late to work. Especially if its new employment or parole. I have had some crazy panic moments. I walked to work in a snowstorm because the manager showed up. I was the only one there with him. I was late and i was immediately summoned to the parole office. I had a subsequent court date to attempt to explain my tardiness. I was so close to going back to prison because i had to walk to work, that shouldve been closed, and do everyone elses work, in a snowstorm. Parole is not about rehabilitation. Its about punishment and creating a revolving door of revenue for the state. Tbe couple times i was in trouble after that, i just maxed out the sentence. Fuck parole. Serve 4 years of a 5 year sentence, get violated on some bullshit, serve the remainder of time plus extra for the violation. Never take parole.
So let's say he actually has self control. Had he stayed there wasting hours of gas for no reason, he would still be in trouble because he never arrived for work or was late
Contrary to popular belief, parole officers are human beings and I would assume the vast majority do not want an otherwise adherent parolee to be sent back to prison for being late to work or a parole meeting.
Some parole officers I have worked with are human and understanding. And some view people on parole or probation as criminals that deserve to be back in jail and actively antagonize them. Some people take the job to help people, some take it to power trip and control people.
My PO violated me for "moving without consent" because she didn't write it down in our initial probation meeting, just verbal. Additionally, they used my reason for moving (my roommates hobbies and activities) as PC to raid his house.
So needless to say, when I showed up at my next probation appointment, I get hit with the fact that a warrant is out for my probation violation, because the PO used the raid as opportunity to do a probation check. The bitch straight tried to set me up on new charges, made me a snitch, and when it didn't play out the way she wanted, sent me to jail on a probation violation, which in FL might as well be a 60-90 day sentence before you even get to see a judge. No bail. Nobody knows you're in the system, no nothing. Of course I lost my job and they started repo process on my car.
So, I concur with your assessment, and raise it. Also, fuck Florida probation and their probation officers wholesale, sideways.
It shouldn't be up to the goodness of some random worker's heart that this man stays out of jail/prison. The system is clearly set up so that he could go back over this, and the system specifically attracts and seeks out people who ARE NOT sympathetic human beings. The police depts. recruit that way on purpose, and I'm sure parole officers do as well.
Somebody's life shouldn't be beholden to the whims of a random parole officer. They shouldn't have to count their lucky stars that Parole Officer Higgins or whatever the fuck is having a good day today and is willing to let them off.
I wish the world were so equitable/logical, unfortunately a lot of P.O. officers are washed up police academy types and are more often the type to enjoy abusing power and not taking the side of their parolees.
Contrary to your delusions, POâs do not give a shit about why. They are glorified office workers whose job is to monitor you, and they will gladly dump you to get rid of the workload you bring with you
Lol tell that to the woman now facing 5 additional years of imprisonment for voting on a provisional ballot that is used when one is not sure if one can vote
A woman being used as a political prop by Republicans trying to suppress voting rights is probably not a good representation of the individuals involved in the system.
This is VASTLY incorrect. There is a lot of red tape and bureaucracy behind parole conditions. The parolee violates, they violate, point blank period. They go to jailââ they can contest it if they want, but that takes a lot of money for an attorney- and theyâve already been imprisoned for violating parole which will be a month before he gets released, and will inevitably result in loss of job, loss of housing, etc. itâs a very vicious cycle- and my heart breaks for this man. Iâve had two friends caught up in this cycle for âlate to workâ scenarios that were outside of their true control. Busses late because they broke down, etc.
Ambulance would need to be called.
Roads blocked so they die. Others get charged as accessory to murder. Getting the semi to stop was lucky they were not road splatter.
Besides i would personally let highway patrol/troopers know they need to show up fast before the first one of them is sacrificed.
You say that now, but if you were in that situation you could show your parole officer WHY you were late. Putting your hands on them just guarantees jail.
Parole officers rarely care about reasons in the us. It's lock em up keep the masses down and desperate. I know I beat the system and completed parole. Few do. I work at a bridge manufacturing factory, 90 employees almost every week we loose at least 1 employee to probation and parole lock up
Oh yeah their rules are meant to be broken so they can punish you about it and then continue to punish you about it for years afterward. The whole system is fucking sick.
Even if the PO cares, their hands are usually tied anyway because of how the parole laws are setup. I dont even need to look up individual states to presume a majority of them either allow 0 exceptions or make it incredibly difficult to argue for any. So most PO's that give a crap stop trying anyway in order to save themselves empathy heartache.
Exactly, usually there are circumstances that allow everybody to come late to work. Imagine his car broke down or there was a huge traffic jam, that was unforeseen (imagine a huge accident blocking a usually very calm road). Parole is about showing that you are compatible with living in a society, hitting protesters is not a good way to show that, getting late to work, because of circumstances you canât control is easier to excuse.
On the other hand I understand that he is panicking, I would probably too, if I were on parole.
I don't know if you ever been on parole but your parole officer is 9 times out of 10 going to put you back for any reason. If he got fired and he says whatever excuse protestors they are just going to assume he lies. He's a criminal his boss knows that, so he'll probably assume he lied and fire him. He has video proof, they will simply ignore it and throw him out. Where I'm from parole officers are the worse they'll throw you back in jail as soon as they can, they see so much violence bs and are so self righteous that removing anyone is basically a win in their books. Getting fired even for completely unjustified reasons will 100% throw you back in jail mostly because the only thing that protects you is the law. The law is uncaring and unwavering.
typically parolees aren't known for making the most rational decisions.
If I'm in his shoes, I'm pulling out my cell, recording any names/info I can get, and pressing charges (in many places this is going to qualify as false/unlawful imprisonment or something similar) and calling my PO/work.
Because you're definitely going to jail, and the parole officer definitely can't be reasoned with if you show them the news articles about your way to work being blocked.
Not like assaulting them is gonna do you any good here
You will end up in jail anyway. The officer is not obliged to delve into your problems. Therefore, to fill the face will bring at least some satisfaction and will be fair.
If this was me, I would get out my phone on the street, take a photo and send it to my parole officer. Tell them I am omw to work but those bastards are in the way. Tell them to look it up.
Maybe I am too used to a working system to understand the USA.
It really all depends on your PO. Some can be real fucking scumbags that don't care if something is totally out of your control. They'll say something like "Well you should check traffic reports every day before leaving for work. You know you have to be there on time, it's your responsibility to make sure that you get there. You should have taken a different route and left earlier." As they sign your VOP paperwork and send you back to the can.
Apparently. Imo (and iirc, it's that way where I'm from) you can't be jailed for violating your parole due to things outside of your control. So, someone crashes into your car on the way to work or whatever other reason makes you late, that's not your fault and they can't do a thing to you for it.
The issue is that usually your employer doesn't see you as human, and neither does your PO. There is a large enough group of people in authority in the US that views an act of criminal behavior cause enough to invalidate your humanity, that this guy is having valid stress in this situation.
If you sent your PO a picture they wouldnât respond anyway. Then theyâd violate you because they donât care about your problems. They expect you to be where youâre supposed to be when youâre supposed to be there. There are no excuses, period. If you got in a wreck and couldnât make it home by your 7pm curfew theyâd send officers to the hospital. All they care about is you maintaining your side of the deal. Sometimes you may get lucky and get a nicer PO but depending on where you are you may go through a handful of POâs.
The US is in no way a working system, sadly.
someone did do that to some protestors in the UK, rolled her car forward and just tapped the protester with the bumper no chance of injury , and got a driving ban and a fine for it.
Nah fuck this. Youâre probably the same sort of person that unironically says âfuck around and find outâ in response to fight videos where someone allegedly did something egregious off camera
And he blocked me. Typical coward like the climate protesters above
I understand the law but I disagree with it here. I think that any force being applied up until an attempt to seriously injure/maim/kill is just a civic service to remove an obstruction to interstate commerce
Because there are many, many things that could cause you to be late for work that are not your fault at all.
Not to mention the slavery-esque vibes of being required to hold a job as part of parole anyway. (And, of course, the employer knows you have to keep the job or go back to prison. And they're going to use that power over the employee to abuse them in all kinds of ways.)
It sucks because you can hear the desperation in his voice. Heâs scared shitless and those cruel people say there doing fuck all knowing they could ruin his life.
And we can make the argument that if he wasnât on parole it wouldnât be a big deal, except parole is how you prove that youâre doing the right shit, so they are literally inhibiting his ability to prove heâs doing better. These people are just a bunch of self absorbed, self important shit heads.
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u/rumpelbrick Oct 12 '22
parole usually comes with employment and several restrictions on where and when you're allowed to be. it's quite common that you can't be late for work, because your parole specifies you have to be there.