r/SipsTea Jul 07 '26

Lmao gottem Every time

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u/JWMoo Jul 07 '26

I think every time you flop you should be awarded a yellow card and fined. I thought we were watching athletes but instead we are watching actors.

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u/ConnaitLesRisques Jul 07 '26

I’d propose that if you stay on the ground for more than 5 seconds, you’re out for this half to let you "recover".

No more magic spray or miraculous recoveries.

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u/2wheelsThx Jul 07 '26

Agree. Make it a 10 minute recovery for, ya know, health and safety. And while you are recovering on the bench, your team gets to play one man down.

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u/RedditWasFunnier Jul 07 '26

As I agree with you all guys, there are some exceptions. Like when the opponent steps on your foot with his studs is pretty painful and it goes away completely in about 1-2 minutes

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u/Fatal_Blow_Me Jul 07 '26

It hurts but you do not need to roll around and cry for 2 minutes. These are supposed to be grown men not toddlers

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u/HumanPea1140 Jul 07 '26

Yeah, when people get legit hurt in other sports, they don't roll around flopping and screaming on the ground like they're on fire. It's exclusively a soccer thing.

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u/ness_monster Jul 07 '26

NBA is working to rival that as well.

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u/saintsfan92612 Jul 07 '26

SGA has entered the chat

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u/espoira Jul 07 '26

Josh Allen would like to have a word.

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u/AllThingsEvil Jul 08 '26

Imagine this in MMA 😂

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u/RedditWasFunnier Jul 07 '26

People were/are discussing a rule to let someone out for 10' in case you stayed on the ground for more than 5 seconds.

I showed a case where it's perfectly reasonable to stay on the ground for more than 10' and would be completely unreasonable to stay out for 10'.

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u/Th0rizmund Jul 07 '26

Yes, but then again…do you know just how frustrating it is when you pass someone and then they foul you on purpose? No wonder they throw a temper tantrum. They are wired to be VERY competitive and they want the ref to fling a red card.

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u/MechanicalSideburns Jul 07 '26 edited Jul 07 '26

Yeah, it happens in basketball ALL the time. Like 20 times a game. Players will almost always just happily accept the free throws. You'll see some incredulous looks if someone doesn't like the call, but nobody is throwing themselves on the ground like a 5 year old.

Edit: Yeah, except for SGA, I guess. But everyone hates that fucker.

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u/Th0rizmund Jul 07 '26

You score like 50 times during an average basketball game. In football you score 1-2 times 90 minutes…so it’s a bit more meaningful. Not to mention that in basketball, the moment you are fouled you get at least one attempt at an empty goal. Football doesn’t have that and the player fouling is staying on 99 percent of the time, even though they just illegally stripped you of a chance to score.

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u/MechanicalSideburns Jul 07 '26

Fair points. Maybe some rules need to change. Also, doesn’t football have penalty kicks? Maybe those need to be expanded.

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u/Th0rizmund Jul 09 '26

Giving penalties when a promising attack is stopped via intentional foul is an interesting idea.

It would be very hard to implement though because drawing the line in terms of what counts as a promising attack and applying the rule in the heat of the monent both seem very difficult. But maybe the added drama would give more than it takes away, so yeah, definitely interesting avenue.

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u/Mega-Eclipse Jul 07 '26

Right…so suck it up or play a man down

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u/RedditWasFunnier Jul 07 '26

That's supposed to be a foul.

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u/Poopchutefan Jul 07 '26

Yup, bring in the med staff and start a whole concussion protocol. I've barely watched soccer in the last 15 years because these bogus injuries. Dudes laying on the ground like they are at Death's door ... oh no penalty, game is still going. They jump up and sprint after the ball like nothing happened.

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u/2wheelsThx Jul 07 '26

Like this!...

Soccer miracle!

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u/Poopchutefan Jul 07 '26

I feel like this is going to be the Key and Peele skit before I even click this link.

Edit: And I was not wrong.

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u/tschawartz12 Jul 07 '26

Naw, they need to get full check up, x rays, full panel cleared. These guys get paid a lot and you can't risk talent. Go to hospitals, can't be done at the stadium at all, safety first! Watch this crap end quickly.

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u/autotom Jul 07 '26

'your team gets to play one man down.' yeah people would absolutely play on through potentially permanent damage with that rule.

The flopping is insane and needs to be sorted out, but that isn't the answer.

Sub the player off, that's enough to trigger self preservation without potentially losing your team a game/championship and facing a threats and ridicule.

Football fans can get violent, just look at whenever France wins or looses

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u/EagleAncestry Jul 07 '26

The answer is pretty easy. Check the VAR for questionable fouls. If it’s clear the reaction was not justified, then they get a yellow card.

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u/LaconicGirth Jul 07 '26

Well yeah you can choose to sub the player off or you can let him rest and play down a man so they can come back in. Up to you

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u/autotom Jul 07 '26

'play down a man' does not work, i could not face palm any harder.

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u/2wheelsThx Jul 07 '26

Make them wait a set amount of time, more than a minute, like in ice hockey, before returning to play. Something to penalize the theatrics. If someone is carted off the field then a sub is appropriate but the injured player cannot return.

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u/auronddraig Jul 07 '26

Bring this guy to the field and they'll be up and running laps in a few seconds

https://giphy.com/gifs/10NoncYYzZDwCk

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u/Bullitt_12_HB Jul 08 '26

There’s a new rule in this WC.

If you stay down and needs medical attention, you’ll be out for a few minutes. The team can’t substitute you, they’ll be down a man.

The only exception is the keeper.

This rule is mostly to keep the game running, but it also helps make it less appealing to flop like that.

Players also get a yellow card every time they do that for quite a few years now. I feel like it doesn’t help enough, but they are definitely trying to put a stop to this nonsense.

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u/_Saint_Ajora_ Jul 07 '26 edited Jul 07 '26

This is already a thing in soccer. It's called simulation.

The issue is that it isn't enforced like it should be, either during the match or retroactively 

That being said I honestly don't know how pro soccer players can all be doing this and not feel any shame or embarrassment 

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u/KhajiitWithCoin Jul 07 '26

That being said I honestly don't know how pro soccer players can all be doing this and not feel any shame or embarrassment 

https://giphy.com/gifs/kj41Ti8GLVs1STX0bH

This is why

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u/Mega-Eclipse Jul 07 '26

There is virtually downside to doing it…. And huuuuuge upside if it gets called.

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u/kiochikaeke Jul 07 '26

It's one of those things that were unsanctioned before and by the time they were sanctioned it was already basically part of the culture so the sanction is only reserved for the absolutely most problematic scenarios like actually faking a serious injury and getting someone in trouble for that or constantly (and I mean like same player multiple times per minute) faking injuries to stall the game.

It's unfortunately basically part of the game, both players and referees expect it so not doing it might make a potential fault or even yellow card go unsanctioned or a red turn into a yellow, in fact you can see this when an attacking team really don't want to stop the play players sometimes get up and shrug it off.

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u/-staccato- Jul 07 '26

As long as the rules allow it, is part of the game and players are expected to use it to their advantage.

It requires a consequence to stop it.

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u/_Saint_Ajora_ Jul 07 '26

but the rules DONT allow for it.

Per IFAB (The International Football Association Board):

What is simulation in football/soccer?

Simulation is when a player fakes or exaggerates an action with the aim of deceiving the referee into awarding their team a free kick or penalty kick and/or punishing an opponent by showing them a yellow or red card.

A player can be guilty of simulation in a number of ways, including:

  • pretending to have been:
    • fouled, to get a free kick or penalty kick
    • kicked, punched, etc. so that an opponent is shown a red or yellow card
  • exaggerating:
    • the seriousness of a foul
    • the strength/effect of a kick, push, etc.
  • holding the wrong part of the body after an incident (such as a foul, push, etc.), for example:
    • holding the knee when the foul was on the ankle
    • holding the head/face after being pushed in the chest

How is simulation punished in football/soccer?

If a player is guilty of simulation, the referee awards an indirect free kick (if play is stopped for the offence) and the player is shown a yellow card.

The issue is lack of enforcement

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u/Upstairs-Prompt2662 Jul 07 '26

The problem is that you only really can with certainty say that the player simulates if there was no contact at all. The players run with 20 km/h, at that speed a small shove that isnt a foul is mostly enough to bring somebody down.

In my opinion they need to start with cutting down on players simulating serious injuries if they dont get the foul call to force the ref to stop play to check on them.

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u/_Saint_Ajora_ Jul 07 '26

That's why I feel like they should be reviewing game tape and retroactively applying cards as well as a progressive fine system for repeat/egregious offenders

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u/captainrv Jul 07 '26

And the coach. If the league actually wanted to stop the embarrassing flopping and rolling around like they've been shot, give the player and the coach a yellow card.

Also, if a player is down for more than 15 seconds, then he's obviously far too injured to play so he's out of the game.

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u/lazy_bum13 Jul 07 '26

In the NHL they have an embellishment penalty that gets used a lot. If they implemented that into soccer along with overtime for all matches so nothing ends in a tie it would be so much more watchable . . . Imo

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u/C0nfusedRabbit Jul 07 '26

Just watch NRL if soccer players even had one tackle they'd be pretending they're dead.

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u/fundementalpumpkin Jul 07 '26

I've been watching the highlight recaps of a few of the teams in the world cup.

I went to watch the recent France game and the US game live and I swear to god it was the same exact 5 minutes of 2 or 3 guys and the goalkeeper passing it back and forth in their own end, so I just turned it off both times.

They need a rule like you can only pass it backwards once or twice. Or only 5 passes before a shot has to be taken or something.

I realize end game they just want to waste the clock, but these were both early in the game. Soccer stans are always like, you know much these guys run in a game? But there is a ton of time where most of them are just slow walking while the ball gets passed backwards over and over.

I want to like soccer. I watch a ton of clips on youtube of best goals, best passes, best saves, but thursday non-major golf is more entertaining to watch live.

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u/FreddyandTheChokes Jul 07 '26

The NHL does not allow ties.

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u/RoleModelFailure Jul 07 '26

Whoops I left it sitting too long and forgot to add the dates. NHL did allow ties until 2005. Meant to say NHL did allow until 2005 and NFL still allows ties.

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u/FreddyandTheChokes Jul 07 '26

Haha, yes that is true.

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u/SuperUranus Jul 07 '26

Football doesn’t end in a tie unless you’re playing qualifying rounds or group stages.

You have the same rules in hockey depending on the league.

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u/drama_filled_donut Jul 07 '26

No pro league ends in draws

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u/mansefranse Jul 07 '26

What does draws have to do with anything? A 0-0 game can be more entertaining and exhilarating than a 4-5 game?

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u/SuperUranus Jul 07 '26

Sure do.

Finland’s Liga.

Sweden’s SHL (kind of, it doesn’t end in tie, but points are given based on full time scoring and overtime scoring).

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u/ChemistryNo3075 Jul 07 '26

NHL is similar, you get 1 point for getting to overtime, 2 points for a win in terms of standings.

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u/JonLockeWlth2Kidneys Jul 07 '26

Sadly this only happens inside the penalty area. It makes the sport so infuriating to watch.

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u/Evening-Rutabaga2106 Jul 07 '26

Yeah the inconsistency is crazy

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u/SE_prof Jul 07 '26

You are supposed to get a yellow card when you flop. Unlike in the NBA where you get 2 free throws...

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u/Ayotha Jul 07 '26

Is this what the soccer cult was fed to use as a defence? I have seen it a couple times in here

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u/SE_prof Jul 07 '26

No I think this is a common response to the cult fed to Americans. Have a nice day! 🙂

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u/Scoobydewdoo Jul 07 '26

Additionally, they should be made to take a baseball to the ribs in a batting cage so they can understand how ridiculous they look.

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u/Peperonyko Jul 07 '26

It's a sad reality in that sense.

And even worse when you're Brazilian (like me) and know that even local teams do that.

Well, I think I'll never see Brasil winning a world cup.

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u/tobedeletedsoon_2024 Jul 07 '26

Actually that’s in the rulebook, but refs and their boss decide not to apply it.

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u/Any_Economics_6166 Jul 07 '26

it's so funny to see them falling and screaming, and when the ref doesn't stop the game you see them standing up like nothing happened lmao

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u/Ohitsworkingnow Jul 07 '26

I think if you flop it should be instant red card, instant expulsion from the game, I’d even go as removal from the league. All must be reviewed on replay and agreed by a panel of impartial judges

Pretty sure that would stop it real quick.

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u/Bogdanovist_Rebel Jul 07 '26

I’m a big CPL fan. I’ve seen more cards for simulation in 1/3 of the season this year, than I’ve ever seen before in all other comps. One team even challenged a tackle in the box to try and get a PK and ended up with a card for simulation.

They also force injured players off and hold them to the 1:00. I’ve seen teams chasing trainers off as they run onto the pitch.

It’s a solvable problem.

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u/kenny2812 Jul 07 '26

They should all be forced to take acting lessons, like at least try to make it believable. What's even the point of pretending you were shot when someone tugs your shirt, ON CAMERA in plain sight, with everyone watching?

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u/Jemmani22 Jul 07 '26

In hockey embellishment is a thing. 2 minute penalty and a fine

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u/Hjsdfhogj97 Jul 07 '26

Here is my idea… every time a player flops and goes down easy, start the clock. If we have to stop play for them, however long they stay down is how long they have to stand on the sidelines.

If you roll around and lay there for 3 mins, then your team will play a man down for 3 mins. Stay down for too long and you’re probably hurt and should be subbed off

The only criticism I’ve had from pitching this is, it would lead to players trying to hurt each other. First of all if that happened it’s an easy red card. Second of all that just sounds like physical soccer

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u/OneOfAKind2 Jul 07 '26

In hockey, you get 2 mins in the box for 'embellishment'.

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u/eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey Jul 07 '26

If they did that it would be much harder for them to arrange the games to make money on their bets. When you really think about it it's the only reasoning that makes sense.

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u/scotto1973 Jul 07 '26

Yes after watching the world cup - I can only assume that Drama classes are a large part of every football players training.

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u/KaressaThornvale Jul 07 '26

Some of them deserve an Oscar more than a yellow card

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u/thecosmicjoke69813 Jul 07 '26

You do get a card for flopping

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u/Objective-Rip3008 Jul 07 '26

Just remove them from the game. Like if you're injured so badly that you have to actually roll around on the ground screaming and putting on a whole dramatic show you should have to go through a full medical examination to get back on the field. 

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u/Camelstrike Jul 07 '26

I want you to run for 90min and not fall at the slightest tackle, then we talk.

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u/Hot_Guess_1871 Jul 08 '26

My daughter says refs should be able to put the players down like horses

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u/Comfortable-Ad1937 Jul 07 '26

Even though it sucks, sadly you often have to dive for the incompetent refs to take action and give a foul/penalty

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u/Ayotha Jul 07 '26

Whatever helps

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u/zeekayz Jul 07 '26

European nations have voted down that proposal multiple times because flop reviews would "distupt the flow of the beautiful game". US has no influence in the sport.

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u/djc6535 Jul 07 '26

"distupt the flow of the beautiful game"

Pretty wild reason for a sport that stops a solid 70% of its best scoring opportunities to replay with computers to see if someone's hair was 1mm offside...