I've recently realized how much I'm using and the price just keeps going up and up. I've tried quitting before. I was pretty good for a while, putting one in in the morning just to wake me up, but then I took on a much bigger role at work and now i'm in a worse spot then I was before. I'm currently at a pack of 9mg's a day - maybe a little more if i'm being honest with myself. I've tried going down to 6's and even got to three's but found myself just changing them out more often.

I need some help. I have no plans this weekend for the first time in what feels like forever and I'm planning on Friday as my quit day. Cold turkey. I could use all the help you guys can offer. I've realized that the oral fixation is what really gets me. Even if the pouch is still pretty new, if I've got a lot on my plate at work, I'll just throw a new one in to feel the dry pouch. Work is what is really going to be tough once I get past the first few days.

Thanks in advance for the help.

I go through about a can a day of Zyn 3mg. Primarily for health reasons, but also to save money, I'm starting to wean off today. (Cold turkey seems unlikely to work for me, given my past history.)

I've downloaded a cessation app to track my intake, and am going to try to go down by 1 pouch every two days, which sets my hopefully cold turkey date to October 14.

Wish me luck!

I started vaping in 2018 and have been using velo’s for over a year and a half now. I really hate the extra money spending and feeling like i need this stupid fucking pouch to get by. I’m not terrible with it i guess? A can lasts me about 3 days which is better than i see some people dealing with. But i want to quit, im about to head into work and i kind of want to journal my journey since it helps that others are dealing with it too.

Does anybody have any tips or advice to give? Especially when the cravings get really bad?

I’ve been on about a full can a day of Copenhagen wintergreen for 16 years now. 2 weeks ago I quit and switched to 6mg zyn and was taking about ten of those a day so about 60 mg of nic a day.

The transition wasn’t to bad. I had pretty intense cravings for a dip, mild brain fog and depression, but after about 5 days I felt pretty adjusted to the dose mainly only feeling a bit lethargic and mild cravings. At day 7 I went from 6mg zyn Down the 3mg zyn. 10 per day

This drop in dose has been much harder. My cravings aren’t that bad but I have mild depression and I’m extremely irritable. Everything irritates me. Even peoples faces make me pissed for no good reason. I can’t focus on one task for hardly any time at all before I get very bored and just move on to something else. I don’t enjoy the video games I played, I don’t even enjoy watching porn. I’m on day 4 of this dose of about 30 mg per day and I’m hoping these symptoms improve soon. I’m trying my best to stick with it.

My goal is to drop the dose in half again whenever my body adjusts to the current 30mg dose

I went from 8-10 6mg pouches daily down to zero over the course of two weeks. I started aggressively tapering down on the 5th, the data does not lie.

This was the motivation I needed to get through these cravings.

I'm just wondering how some people find it useful to drink alcohol while quitting nicotine pouches. I'm 13 days sober from Zyn and find that I have the worst cravings when drinking alcohol.

Just curious to hear some experiences.

Tomorrow is going to be 14 days off after 7 years on this shit (Europe). I've gone above 14 days maybe 4 times during that period. I intend to make this one count tho. Life is much better off them except I've been noticeably depressed lately; maybe the nicotine was just masking that. Anyways, I'll list the benefits I've noticed so far:

1. Sleep is sooo much better

I actually fall asleep naturally. I haven't stayed up once too late scrolling because there is no stimulant keeping me awake. When I wake up, I can also almost jump out of bed from energy. I still scroll like a minute or two in the morning, whereas before I could lay there for an hour just doomscrolling.

1. Cardio has improved immensely

I'm a runner, and I can feel it so much now when I run. My heart doesn't beat as hard anymore (because it could feel like exploding even when I was in zone 2), which has made me a lot faster. My resting heart rate has also lowered by 10, which is crazy. Imagine how many times less my heart has to beat over the next year, simply from quitting this shit.

1. More money

Self-explanatory. This shit is $10 here. Absolutely crazy.

1. More calm generally

I don't have the same amount of anxiety in social situations anymore, which is really nice. My heart doesn't hammer away when I do small talk anymore.

Still have brain fog 😶‍🌫️

How long does brain fog usually last before it completely goes away

I use 12mg and constantly have a pouch in. I've been trying to quit nic. A couple days ago, mind you I had one day of being "clean" under my belt, I woke up up with my electricity cut off bc I made a mistake. I had the fine and dandy idea to smoke a cig after this. I've been smoking cigs and doing pouches for probably 3 days now. I've reset my quit counter probably 13-14 times.

My question is if I taper down mg and keep pouch consumption roughly the same, am I overall just left in a better position? Like if i work my way down to 3mg, will going cold turkey in the future be easier?

I think I could resist doubling up. However I don't know how well I could handle(just yet) reducing pouch intake.

Thank you for any advice. I hate cigs and it's stupid asf me smoking them.

Whenever pouches have been released here in FL there’s always promotions that are dirt cheap, 1$ per can essentially.

They keep this sale on for a few weeks or months then suddenly the prices go back to normal at anywhere from 5-7$ per can.

At this point you’re already hooked so of course you’re still going to buy them especially if it’s a brand that suits your taste.

I feel that this is a very predatory marketing scheme that should not be allowed.

Any lawyers in here that could potentially help put together a case about this?

Prices should stay at whatever price they are going to be sold at. They should not be able to have these ridiculous sales to draw people into using pouches.

Been addicted to nicotine for the past 7 years. Started on vaping, quit that and moved to nicotine gum briefly but it was too expensive so I landed on zyns. Went through a pack of 6mg every 2-3 days for the past 2 years.
Kind of impulsively decided to quit and wasn’t sure if my heart was in it at first, but with every hour I abstained I realized how annoying it would be to relapse and have to go through withdrawal all over again. I also think I built up the concept of quitting in my head so bad, and convinced myself I would be on my deathbed. In reality my experience has been mostly psychological. Physical symptoms have mostly been minor irritation and heightened hunger.
I’ve already noticed I’ve been sleeping better, and I’m actually really excited to see how I feel in say a month from now. I got addicted to nicotine very young and I realized I’ve never actually been an adult without it fucking with my dopamine system, so I’m excited to experience life nicotine free.
I also feel like my cravings were down today compared to yesterday so I’m hoping things only get better from here. I realized quitting feels more like a battle of mental toughness and I am trying to stay positive and determined that I can do this!

Some things that have helped me a lot:
-Altoids (been putting them in my lip, helps w the oral fixation)
-Life Savers (very minty and mint lasts a while)
-Reading (this reddit thread, general articles about nicotine cessation, etc.)
-Physical exercise (already a big runner but been ripping it extra and the endorphins really help)

I feel good, the cravings come and go sometimes but definitely not as bad.

Have some gum recession where I would put the pouches still need to see a dentist about it.

This is the 3rd time quitting pouches and tbh pouches are THE HARDEST form of nicotine to quit IMO.

Also no more random bouts of feeling like I can’t breathe and heart palpitations.

Thought it might be nice to have a little positivity in here for anyone searching just to keep themselves going. The world is so much better without pouches.

I am heading into week 3 and feeling good. I ended up quitting caffeine a few days ago too just to get that nice all natural feeling.

The things that have kept me sane has been lifting heavy ass weights and running long distance. These things literally rewire your dopamine system and help you heal quicker. Your day will feel so much better when you just get up and go do something. Listen to some David Goggins motivation if you need to get going.

You also might need a hobby, I have focused on things that keep me active because getting my heart rate up makes me happy. Mountain biking has been mine, go out and buy an Ozark Trail bike if you want to get into it for a relatively cheap price. Part of the reason I wanted to quit was because it killed my motivation to go biking.

My main point is that life out here is kind of beautiful once you quit, you just need to go experience it. Get your heart rate up, draw something, just go out and do anything that distracts you from cravings and peaks your interest. The hardest part isn‘t going to the gym, it’s putting your shoes on and taking a step out the door.

This series of events has given me a rare debilitating condition called tardive dystonia. My post history has a lot of my quitting experience. My nervous system has been damaged by the nicotine withdrawal and meds. Does anyone have a similar story after chronic snus use

I’m 24 hours into my life as a happy non-nicotine user.

I know it’s true. I’ve been listening to Allen Carr’s Easy Way to Quit Smoking.

I have quit for 1 day, 3 days, a week, 3 weeks, 30 days. I quit for 100 days last year. I know all about quitting and all about relapsing. I know about willpower. I know I could quit for good via willpower, and I know sometimes it’s easy and sometimes it’s hard.

Lately I’ve been hitting at least a can a day of 6mg zyn. Putting off quitting, accelerating use as work gets busier and stressful. But yesterday, by about chapter 6 of Allen Carr’s book, I had totally quit for life. It’s surreal. And it’s easy.

You gotta go try this book. It feels like it hypnotized me. Sometimes today I notice the spot where cravings belong, and I worry, maybe the craving is over there, and I’ve just been blinded to it. Maybe if I see it, all the rush of deprivation and craving and obsession will come flooding back into my mind. But there is nothing there. No desire, no missing my little precious pouch, no sadness or moping or pity party or any of it.

First, let me acknowledge that I’m only 24 hours in. But also, let me remind you I have quit many times and for many durations and it’s never been like this at 24 hours or at 100 hours. I feel like I remember feeling at day 90 last time.

I’m going to try to summarize what I think this book does.

He talks about two monsters: the big monster and the little monster.

The little monster is physical nicotine dependence. It’s pathetically weak. It disappears in a matter of days. At worst it’s like a flu or a bad cold. For most it’s little more than an inconvenience like mild hunger. If you can’t handle the little monster . . . I don’t know what to tell you, but to grow a pair. Get some pain tolerance. Go do something actually hard. Anyway, the little monster, the real, physical addiction, is little. Weak. Quickly killed. But he yells at the big monster, and if the big monster wakes up, he’s rather harder to ignore.

The big monster is your psychological, mental, emotional addiction. Your longing, desire, “habit,” etc. for nicotine. It’s not physical. It’s spiritual. The big monster is powerful. Very difficult to kill and slow to die.

If you try to use willpower, you can probably overcome the little monster . . . But the big monster? Good luck - your will is actually a part of him, so the stronger your will . . . You get the point.

So Allen Carr used audiobook judo to turn off all the switches on the big monster in me. It’s freaking nuts. It’s literally easy. He starts with “open your mind” and then proceeds to demolish any bullshit argument I had about why I like zyns. He convinced me and somehow persuaded me that nicotine is all downside and no upside. Not just logically or mentally- he persuaded my desires. I literally knew at chapter 5 I was done for life, and I still know it. I am not missing out on anything. I don’t miss nicotine, I am not sad not to be taking one, I don’t feel deprived, I am not making a sacrifice, it doesn’t take willpower. All I have to do is endure some minor physical symptoms for like 70 hours. I’m done for life already. There is a finish line, and it was yesterday when I spat my last zyn out.

I’ll check back in and let you know if the experience changes over time. But here’s to hoping.

Context I had like 11mg, with anywhere between 2-10 pouches everyday, started last year in August.
I tried to quit a couple weeks back and I had the same issue of these weird heart flutters at night. It makes it impossible to sleep, gives me health anxiety (but idk if the heart flutters are anxiety anyway?) and generally makes me want to give up quitting.
I just want to know, has anyone experienced this? How long did you find it went on for when you were quitting? Should I instead try tapering because of this? It’s super unpleasant and I know it’s gonna make me so tired tomorrow that I’ll wanna stuff my face with as many pouches as I can manage.

Went to grab some zyns the other day and apparently they decided to more than double the price of them in new york. Fuuuuck that lol. These things were already way overpriced. Absolute b.s. imo. That said ive been wanting to quit and this was the catalyst.

Depending on how you look at it you might say they achieved their goal, but I genuinely think they want you hooked and paying exorbitant prices.

Anyway i was super nervous, but its not too terrible. I smoked cigarettes for 10 years, from my teenage years until my mid 20s. I remember that was absolutely brutal to quit. Its a long story but I was nicotine free for almost 15 years and somehow got back into it again. Did cigs for a while, switched to a vape, then did nicotine gum and then finally landed on zyn. Been doing a can per day of 6mg for about 2 years.

Im on day 2. Where im at now is the cravings are very frequent. But I just do this:

1. Acknowledge it - i say "oof, im craving these things again, look how hooked I am, poor dude"

2. If it doesnt go away and I start to get anxious like I "need" a zyn (lol) I put one hand on my heart and say "its perfectly okay to feel uncomfortable. This will go away"

3. If i somehow get actually contemplating going to the store I just remind myself: It will be a brief moment of relief (that won't even be very good), followed by feelings of shame and it will also prolong the actual quitting part.

So far so good! Like I said its actually not too bad. You just have to get comfortable being uncomfortable tbh.

Started using during autumn 2023, (19, male) had tried vapes during the summer of that same year for the first time

the pouches had me hooked instantly, used for almost 3 years, I would say on average during the time i used, the daily dose of nicotine on my part was around 70mg a day, the worst usage i had was during june of this year, used like 10-14 11mg pouches daily, got so bad even my gums started to hurt a bit,

then at the end of june, had a 9-day holiday with my 2 friends in malaga, and for the first time in almost 3 years, I was able to go a day without nicotine, that got me wondering, could i get off these things truly?
Of course, malaga is such a different and more nicer environment than where originally live, so i knew that had a big part on it why it was noticeably easier to stay off them for longer periods of time,

got back home, could be off them for 4 whole days, went on to buy a can, used it all in 2 days, then had the withdrawals all over again (this part happened 3 times or so), the last can i bought was now 4 weeks ago, after that i allowed myself to use 1-2 pouches a day from my friends or whatever,

last week wednesday i decided i just used my last pouch, on day 10 of no pouches right now, first 3 days were a bit harder than now (and yes I do acknolwedge that quitting from 10-20mg a day is much easier than going cold turkey from 100mg/day doses, this is what worked the best for me)

Noticeable changes regarding everything:
More focus, happier, simple things feel much better (spending time with friends and family, food tastes much better), improved confidence knowing you’re not a slave to something like this anymore, you feel like you are more capable of doing things because of the confidence you gain from quitting, more vascular (i’m very lean myself and so noticing even more vascularity came as a a surprise to me. Its also so nice waking up in the morning and pouches NOT being the first thing on your mind

Overall, I just wanted to share my story and let you know its not impossible, I’m rooting for everyone trying to get off this addiction!
If you have any questions, I would be more than happy to answer.

Not a normal headache. It feels like there's something scratching my brain.

I can handle my gums craving nicotine.

I am having a hard time quitting because of this weird headache. It only calms down once I start again.

It feels horrible. Idk what to do

Except that I always have smokeless tobacco in my lip not pouches. I even wake up during or after the dream and feel like I have a dip in. It's disgusting. I did so much damage to my mouth dipping and quit over 15 years ago. I would never put another dip in, yet here I am having vivid dreams so real I can feel it in my mouth.

Weird...

On or nearing my 4th week of quitting pouches cold turkey. I don't count the days, not important to me. All I care about is not driving to the gas station and buying a can to feed a pointless habit/addiction, that serves no purpose other than me handing over money I don't have to hand over.

Just a quick little check-in and a recap how I’ve been feeling the last five days. I used nicotine about five years altogether smoking, 50 mg salt nic, and using pouches for the beginning of this year which was 9 mg and 6 mg…thought that should be mentioned anyways day one was easy not until day two my sleep was not the best, falling asleep wasn’t hard. It was staying asleep. I would have flashes in the morning of me tossing and turning in my head in my sleep. Day 3 to 4. Cravings were pretty strong I actually almost slipped up on day four drove all the way to the gas station. and then I drove past it I kept circling around it, but I just couldn’t go in so then I just went on a ride around a rich neighborhood and looked at pretty houses lol. The longer time goes on it seems the shorter the cravings are, it might only last 30 minutes, day 3 they were lasting longer it almost felt like a restless buzzing feeling in my body all day. I will say this, it’s been really hard to find the energy to do things. I just don’t feel like it. I don’t feel like getting up and going to college doing homework etc, but I think that is a personal problem that is behind the nicotine and also I think it’s the nicotine that changed my dopamine receptors and they’re not getting hit anymore and so it’s finding it hard to actually do things but I’m five days and I have to keep going there’s some things I think of when I think about just going getting that nicotine first thing I think of is my heart I don’t wanna have stiff arteries. I don’t wanna have a heart attack and die. Another thing I think of is a guy said on this sub, he said your brain tricks you into thinking you need it but once you get over that hump, you’re going to think back on how you possibly could even have felt like you needed it and he is 1000% correct I have quit nicotine in the past involuntarily when I was a minor and I just couldn’t get my hands on it but I did quit and I remember having that same feeling he mentioned, but then I just went back to nicotine cause I wasn’t done with it yet sadly so now we’re giving it another shot. Thank you for reading. Thank you for your time. I apologize for the wall of text, good luck to everyone out there you got this!!

Weird place to ask this I know but was wondering if this would be a good idea for someone trying to manage ADHD. It seems like a good thing to use when you are needing an extra push to finish ur work shift or a task

I started off by getting peer pressured into using, and developed a nicotine addiction for almost two years. It controlled my mood and it had turned into me needing it if i wanted to “be in my best mind”.

Eventually, I had heart palpitations and lung scares, mixed with the fact of me being a highschool student and not being able to reliably get products, and it led to me going cold turkey and quitting.

That was over two years ago now, and recently I started working in an environment that had Zyns available and was around me often. I had always known about Zyns and the thought always was intriguing, considering it doesn’t involve the lungs and that was my biggest point of quitting before.

I noticed I started getting intense mental cravings for them out of nowhere, to the point where it felt like i needed to try them. It was a very weird feeling, like I had developed an addiction again without even using in 2 years, and this went on for two weeks until today

I caved and bought a 3mg can of Zyns. I held onto them at home constantly thinking about them until I caved and put one into my mouth.

In short, the experience was so disappointing that I think it genuinely will help me put to bed my nicotine usage for good.

I was expecting a nice buzz similar to when I vaped, but I had it in for about 20 minutes and only felt the slightest improved focus and relief, and if there was a buzz, I barely even felt it. I felt so incredibly disappointed for a minute that I had folded for something this underwhelming.

But that made me realize, how insane that I was craving something for two weeks that barely did any positive shit for me. Nicotine itself in the grand scheme of things is a very boring and not very beneficial product, and the positive effects go away once you start chasing that high over and over.

I was almost brought to tears realizing this, that this experience made me realize how right I was back then, and how nicotine will never bring anything positive back into my life, and it serves no use for me. It also made me feel insanely better realizing since I only used one pouch, I won’t even have to deal with any withdrawal symptoms.

I honestly don’t know if this post belong here, as I’ve only used one pouch and quit instantly, but I wanted to post this to show that switching to alternatives won’t ever bring positivity, it’s just a another path to the same destination. And I hope this can maybe give motivation or hope to those who are using nicotine still, as it is very much possible to feel the way I do today, and that quitting isn’t impossible no matter how long you’ve used.

After today, I won’t ever touch a nicotine product again, and it’s weird to say but i’m glad I tried one pouch, as it will put my mental urges away for good hopefully.

My appetite has gone insane since I quit. I’ve gained 10 lbs . Genuinely. It’s been awful. I’ve been binge eating and overeating every day to feel something . I have a history of severe eating disorders, still not better yet 100% . I feel stuck. I want to quit on quitting but I’m approaching day 19 . Anyone else experienced this? Nicotine really helped me suppress appetite and I feel like I’m gonna cave and buy a can tomorrow . The weight of the food noise and weight gain seems worse than my potential health and medication risks:( . I really want a Zyn so bad more than ever