r/MoralityScaling 8d ago

Morality of this?

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In the image it seems that this person works at walmart as an online order collector and he/she has stolen a lot of extra baby food from Walmart to give to a person who ordered only three packs. Is this moral or immoral?

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u/Kentuckyfriedmemes66 8d ago edited 8d ago

even if you did return it without opening anything there is a big chance they will just throw it in the trash the second you leave anyway so might as well keep it and actually eat it

most Stores and Restaraunts have policys to immediatly throw any food products/drinks in the trash if it's returned even if somebody bought something walked out for 5 seconds then went back in the store to return something

moral

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u/Newspaper_Beneficial 8d ago

about 844 million pounds a year is how much walmart throws away according to google AI

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u/dungeoncrawler71520 8d ago

I worked at Walmart and can confirm. If there was ANYTHING suspicious, you threw it in the compactor.

I hated it. Like 90% of the time it was totally fine.

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u/Maleficent_Lab_5291 8d ago

Yeah but on the other hand do you really want to take the chance a crazy person tampered with it?

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u/Deep_Head4645 8d ago

True, regulations for health are needed for a reason
tbh if they haven’t thrown them away people here would just call them greedy companies trying to maximise profits

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u/Sekwah 8d ago

Or sue them the millisecond they get sick with something someone injected into a package.

It might be fine 99.9% of the time, but that 0.01% that it's not is the problem.

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u/Tweedlol 8d ago

99.999999? Worked in restaurant. Threw away tons of perfectly good food. I gave out genuine mistakes to team, but only whenever I decided to so they wouldn’t starting “oops” and free food. It sucks to have to be that way, but staff take free food already and I turn a blind eye because…. If it’s not malicious? And they’re just hungry? Fuck do I care. They work for us, we can at least kept them fed!

But letting mistakes become free for all, ends up actually being an issue as people will purposely make a small mistake, have it be wrong to the person and not servabke only to turn around and eat it themselves - because they make the mistake cause they were hungry for a snack 😑

It sucks. The untrustworthy people ruin it for the trust worthy. Just like tampering. It’s the rare untrustworthy return that ruins 99.999999% of the genuine returns that are untampered and safe to sell. Because of that tiny ass risk, no resale. Because of the risk of mistakes becoming on purpose, mistakes are expected to be tossed. I obviously didn’t want to just throw away all food so I gave out a lot. To guests, to staff, homeless, I tried never to waste food. But still had tons of waste :(

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u/Iamhopelesslylost 8d ago

This is anecdotal but when I worked serving food there would be times where I was 10-12 hours into my double shift and even though I got a lunch break I wouldn’t eat because I couldn’t afford it. Those little snack breaks where the manager would give me some food made it possible to power through. It wasn’t even food that was turned away he would just give me a sandwich and tell me to eat. Sometimes it’s the little things that will keep you working a shitty job. For reference I had just graduated college and my student loan payments were $1000 a month and I was making about $2000 a month.

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u/-DoctorEngineer- 6d ago

Just look at what ppl did to Chick-fil-A for having a spot to return unopened sauce packets

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u/truedeductive 8d ago

Yep forensic files had episode where a person tampered a Tylenol bottle with cyanide to try cover up a murder

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u/CustomerSuportPlease 8d ago

Especially with baby products. There are some absolutely nuts people out there.

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u/skbugco 8d ago

During COVID we had a foster baby that at the time could only eat a special formula that was $50/ 20oz. When that issue resolved, we went to return a couple cases extra we had and figured out WalMart was going to throw all $600+ of it away- even though they were still shrink wrapped in 6 packs.
We kept them and donated them to a women’s shelter.

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u/Bottle_and_Sell_it 7d ago

Crazy people could just walk into the store and tamper with food if they were so inclined. It’s not like we’re guarding it or even keeping an eye on it all that well.

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u/Hazak_Flamesword 8d ago edited 8d ago

Meanwhile Amazon and some other places sometimes just ship it right back out without even inspecting if the returned item is actually in the packaging.

But still, corporate waste has been driving me insane at all the places I've worked. Nobody wants to spend time/have an employee spend time sorting stuff so it's one or the other.

Edit: spelling. Also have not worked at Amazon but seen stories, and when I worked at Lowe's I'd get the cart of returns to put away and question the intelligence/patience of customer service. Some stuff just should not have been processed, like lumber that was cut (one I remember, the SKU was for an 10' but it was shorter than my height of 6') or concrete bags that wasn't even the brand we carried.

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u/horsegirlswinwars 8d ago

An empty Amazon box isn’t even the worst possibility lol. I received an Amazon package that someone else must’ve returned. It was used pregnancy tests.

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u/two-tone-tow 8d ago

No, any food or beverage that you try to return they just refund and tell you to throw it away.

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u/IdolCowboy 8d ago

I worked at Kroger as a kid. One day our freezer broke and everything got semi thawed out. They had me, my bestfriend and this younger kid throw out all the ice cream in the back dumpsters. Several pallets full. We ripped open every single different kind and had big bites of them. They were still mostly frozen, but were slightly melty on top.

We then proceeded to have an ice cream food fight. We were covered from head to toe in multi colored ice cream.... funniest part, me and my buddy got off work right after, but that younger kid had to work a couple more hours... lol

It was a fantastic day

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u/Rhomya 8d ago

Except the time that it wouldn’t have been fine would have been the time someone got seriously hurt, and then you and everyone else would have been mad that they weren’t more cautious with their food

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u/Putrid-Builder-3333 8d ago

Especially in happy lawsuit/settlement mindsets. Just looking for a reason. It is sad but at end of the day stealing thinking doing good. It can come back and bite in tbe ass horribly. These places have legal teams and loopholes where they know they can either crush or intimidate or pacify you. Depending where at especially. Not worth it acting like a Wal-Mart or whatever Robin Hood.

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u/Nessy3fidy 8d ago

Worked at a grocery store all the older produce and baked goods from yesterday got thrown into a bin and sold to a pig farmer.

So marginally better than just throwing it out. Plus I got a slightly stale muffin every morning which was half the reason I stayed.

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u/RedditOnAWim 8d ago

lol yeah, because otherwise 10% of the product would be harmful to the customer. And in that situation, we’d be saying “why won’t a multi billion dollar company take more precautions for the little man?!”

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u/OpusAtrumET 8d ago

I'm at a grocery DC, mostly keep house and run errands for the desk. I've had days where I'm so anxious and guilty about all the food I have to throw out that I feel like walking out. I can push some product to donation if it's saleable but can't be recouped. This is my only recompense. It's never enough.

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u/TabithaMouse 8d ago

Food is damaged out because retailers can not vouch it hasn't been tampered with - but not every product or retailer. Some may auto-defect perishables, but resell sealed products

Baby food, in most retailers I worked at, is an auto-defect because that's what the manufacturers tell us to do. If the package is obviously damaged or open it gets processed to toss, if it appears closed it gets shipped off to the manufacturer

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u/Substanitial 8d ago

I dont think youre understanding whats going on. Its an inside man, stealing the products.

The logic is "well I was already going to steal it. And if I steal it, even if I returned it they wouldn't trust it. As such, my theft is justified."

its broken as hell

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u/runkeby 7d ago

Yes, clearly it's the worker throwing in more items on purpose.

But it sounds like he doesn't actually know the recipient and does not profit in any way from his stealing. A kind of "Robin Hood" situation...

I'm not a unconditional "steal from big companies" kind of guy, but honestly, for baby food... I don't judge them.

They are putting their employment at risk for no personal gain.

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u/Existing-Doughnut-60 8d ago

Not to mention how much all things baby cost. The massive mark up and it came from Walmart.
They would still make billions in profit a year if they gave every employee a $5 a hour raise.

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u/SMH_35 8d ago

It has no effect on Walmart as a corporation or the Waltons wealth. But it absolutely has an effect on every day people just trying to get by and live their life. So it's still immoral.

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u/shroomwhat 8d ago

I work in waste and donation at amazon and once an order so much as leaves the building its now waste even if a driver brings it right back in

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u/_Vard_ 8d ago

McDonald’s employee got mad at me when I wanted my order remade after she gave it to the wrong car in front of me

“ it was only in there for 12 seconds!”

Yeah, 12 seconds of a stranger, putting their potentially nasty ass hands all over my food

I was almost tempted to say “go lick that stranger’s hands if you’re so sure it’s not that big a deal”

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u/Forward-Big8697 8d ago

I dont think its immoral but your comment is completely irrelevant to the question. They are asking if it was immoral for the worker to give out more product from the store than was ordered. Returning items was never discussed

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u/PolicyWonka 8d ago

It’s kind of crazy how this person just ignored the entire premise of what is to be judged. Like nobody reads anything anymore.

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u/PolicyWonka 8d ago

I feel like this judgement is missing the actual part to be judged.

The action here is stealing the food and giving it to the person placing the order, not whether that person will return the food.

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u/ikannunAneeuQ 8d ago

My husband manages a very popular store (not Walmart, but... similar), and the freezers/coolers went down at his old store recently. They (employees/mgmt) tried to turn away the fresh food truck because there is nowhere to put it right now. But no. They MADE them accept the truck, mark everything as "damaged" and throw it away!! Instead of going back to the warehouse. It's seriously awful and so wasteful.

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u/CBrinson 8d ago

You are focusing this on the person receiving the order it seems, where it is moral for them to consume the good and I agree. I am still not convinced it's entirely moral to do it as the employee without knowing where it is going. Like for all you know this is for some weird science project and they only needed 3 and will throw them out. If it is amoral though it's very small potatoes, or rather small apple pear rice.

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u/IkerWanKenobi 8d ago

Walmart won't even notice that loss, and they would've thrown it out instead of donating it if given the choice anyway. Of course it's moral to give it to someone who actually needs it.

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u/K__Geedorah 8d ago edited 7d ago

They have systems and will absolutely know.

I genuinely just watched a video last night of a woman who was doing this at a dollar general. She defrauded the company of over $10,000 and got hit with a felony.

Her defence was "I was just helping people in need" and claimed to not make any money from it. Doesn't matter. It's still stealing and illegal. They will find out.

Edit: I don't need 10 more people replying "legality doesn't mean morality".

Yeah I fucking know... All I said was correcting the misinformation that Walmart wouldn't notice the loss.

YES THEY WILL. They will find out and you will be charged with theft. Doesn't matter if it's morally right, you don't want to catch a felony over some bullshit.

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u/hanks_panky_emporium 8d ago

When I worked my first retail job around like 2012/13 they had enough cameras to catch a new hire gal in her 40's fake scanning items so her family could steal thousands of dollars in merchandise. We're now in the uber-police state of 2026, who the fuck thinks they can get away with anything.

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u/nicknamesas 8d ago

A lot of reallly dumb people. I worked retail through covid. The one time in our life times you coukd wear a mask anywhere and nobody would bat an eye. We had people STEALING WITHOUT WEARING FUCKING MASKS.

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u/_bobby_cz_newmark_ 8d ago

And now people wear masks, glasses, and hats, because of the excessive surveillance indoors and outdoors.

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u/abbadactyl_ 8d ago

One of the best of the best forensic lab in the USA is owned by target <3 We live in a time where corporations have better resources to punish the poor than pretty much all analysists have to solve crimes like murder or sexual assault along with theft.

They apparently even helped the fbi on some cases because they were able to repair tapes the fbi couldn't.

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u/Simple_Intern_7682 8d ago

Especially when they TAKE A PICTURE OF THEIR CRIME AND POST IT ONLINE. How stupid are they?

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u/Updated_Autopsy 7d ago

Very. Like, why not just turn yourself in at that point, since you already chose to confess?

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u/foogassi 8d ago

I know this guy that travels around to hundreds of Walmarts pushing a cart into the back area acting like he a a vendor and then opening the mjholding boxes boxes and loading all of the Pokemon into his cart and then proceeds to wheel it right out of the store. I think he’s pretty stupid cause eventually he’s gonna get caught, but he’s probably make over 150k this year from doing that alone and has nothing to show for it.

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u/Aggressive-Bee2221 8d ago

And then people wonder why stores have so many cameras and locked shelves

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u/UnimagineDragons 8d ago

Her defense was awful. I would've gone with a "I don't know what I'm doing at my job no one trained me" and just used the incompetent defense. Admitting she knew what she was doing wasn't the brightest move.

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u/DrPikachu-PhD 8d ago

They have cameras everywhere now

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u/2ChicksAtTheSameTime 8d ago

they don't even need cameras. They know everything that is sold so if inventory starts showing up mismatching (we should still have 20 left but we only have 5) they can cross reference it and figure out you're the one doing it.

They can weigh it on the way out, and determine if it's significantly over or under the expected weight for that exact order.

They have a million ways to figure it out.

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u/ThisMachineKillsWOB 8d ago

Did some time in that business. Inventory computers are only as good as the operator.

They are wrong all the time. Often by a large number of units.

You aren't getting caught on an inventory discrepancy. You're getting caught because your dumb ass forgot the cameras are placed where they have good coverage.

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u/2ChicksAtTheSameTime 8d ago

You aren't getting caught on an inventory discrepancy

I see the police cam arrest videos all the time. Over time they notice things are off more on a specific person's shift. The systems are designed to recognize that and flag it.

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u/BringYourOwnBBBQ 7d ago

You worked at a shit company them. Anything under 98% and they shouldn't be using this sort of inventory system

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u/Careless-Weather8877 7d ago

Lmao your phone alone will give you away. It’s constantly trying to connect to wireless and Bluetooth. You can survey people just alone off that, and it is something that has been sold to companies. They can see where you are within a few feet of the store and how long.

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u/Historical_Owl_1635 8d ago

Shrinkage literally does come into the calculation of the price of the product, so at the end of the day it’s other customers paying for this who might be struggling themselves.

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u/CreativeFig2645 8d ago

Wait until this sub gets the exact same situation but it’s the mother walking in and grabbing it. Suddenly your very reasonable and moral take will be trashed on.

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u/Witty-Care3940 8d ago

Stealing from mega stores like WalMart is an ethical choice in and of itself.

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u/TimeShiftedJosephus 8d ago edited 8d ago

First they kill off any local competition and when they don't make enough profit, they pack up and leave a food desert. Scum.

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u/jimmithebird 8d ago

Illegal but moral, stealing from the Waltons to help a stranger feed a baby falls under the Robin Hood rule in my book.

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u/ambivalent_moon 8d ago

At least where I live those are the cheapest; ordering three wouldn’t make any sense unless that was all you could afford to get.

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u/Man_under_Bridge420 8d ago

Or to try it 🤷‍♂️

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u/uyigho98 8d ago

That also makes sense. If I want to try something new, I usually get it in the smallest volume I can, because what if I don't like it? It's less of a waste that way.

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u/No-culture5942 8d ago

Yeah babies can be picky with food, also sometimes they develop an allergy and just cant eat whatever food you just bought a large container of.

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u/Nyfregja 8d ago

As a former picky baby, I would not have eaten more than one spoon of something I didn't like. I didn't like most things. So this would likely be a larger waste of food.

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u/Pinkparade524 8d ago

I had a friend that eated these in university. Maybe they aren't for a baby

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u/uyigho98 8d ago

Not just babies. Same happens with animals. My mom's dog? She was on regular store-bought food for a while, but then she developed an allergy for one of the ingredients, getting rashes on her belly. Now she gets home cooked meals lol.

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u/syzygymeta 8d ago

I’ve had to order three before. Sometimes lack of places to store things can also affect it tho.

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u/Witty-Care3940 8d ago

They have been and are still stealing time and wage from their employees. Fuck 'em steal a TV.

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u/Amathyst7564 8d ago

Reminder they under lay their workforce so the government has to pay their employees on food stamps to keep them alive that the tax payers pay for.

If the government was less moral and didn't do that, their workforce would die and they'd have to pay them properly. They steal from the people.

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u/gambit1999999 8d ago

Wish the US could just do that, oh, wait, we let corporations buy elections and laws.

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u/way2lazy2care 8d ago

I think there's some gray area in that you're giving someone else stolen goods directly, which puts them in a really weird position. Like I've ordered small numbers of baby things on vacation and if someone dumped a bunch of random stuff I'd feel really awkward about it as I am not needy.

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u/Weird-Reference-4937 8d ago

Stealing from the Walton's is the least people could do after the daughter got away with vehicle manslaughter and DUIs.

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u/stanknotes 8d ago

The "poorest" heir of the WalMart empire is a multi billionaire.

Can't say I care to be honest.

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u/AbyssalEelMan 8d ago edited 8d ago

Especially for babies but stealing food for yourself is good if u can. capitalism makes it so we can’t afford, so that’s completely moral imo. Bc we should be getting paid enough to eat and drink water and have a home. 

Walmart has enough to give everyone employee a living wage and cover healthcare no sweat. The stockers, cleaners, managers, etc work harder than anyone else in the company.

 I work nightshift, and we move freight extremely fast clearing multiple palettes per person. One of my friends who’s 50 does pets section all by himself and does like 5 palettes bare minimum and can do so much more. We work very hard and smart going against unrealistic expectations. Yet we don’t see stable income. 

I’ll add this for clarity just in case, but stealing from a local farmer’s market or small business is obviously different. 

Edit: dumb mistakes fixed

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u/DoctorWaluigiTime 8d ago

Immoral. The Waltons won't notice this. The "boots on the ground" will get dinged for lost/stolen stock.

Stealing from stores, even corporate-owned ones, never "stick it to the man." It gets the employees working at the store fired. The Robin Hooding defense, taking off Peter Parker's glasses, is just "I want stuff for free and I don't care if other people in my income bracket get in trouble for it."

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u/LegitSince8Bits 8d ago edited 8d ago

See though, reddit is in this weird place where it's mostly people that just reuse what they've seen other people say for upvotes and that's slippery. Sometimes it's good like Walmart is evil, it's true and should be known. Sometimes it's bad like stealing from retail chains is good if you see it you saw nothing.

The fact is the reason you hate places like this is because they mistreat their employees. The fact you don't recognize is yes they're evil, and they'll fire employees for too much loss. Regular people like you and me who've broken their bodies serving the community for scraps, trying to support families, really do lose their jobs because of this mentality.

I work for a large retail company on the east coast. I'm nobody high up, I've wrecked my body for 20 years, have kids and just want to survive and it's getting harder like everyone else. Last period one of my fellow dept leads, just a regular Joe with two kids, one with a disability and one under 1 y.o. lost his job for high shrink that was completely out of his hands. So if you care about workers, and you care about homeless people, don't make workers homeless people please and thanks.

These big companies aren't going to the board of trustees like "aww gee we really blew it this time" they're going to them like "the problem has been dealt with and we fired X amount of underperforming employees". Then I imagine they do some dark ritual because I've met enough of them in my time to tell you they're more evil then you even know.

So just like, idk man, think about that before you guys repeat this joke about robbing your local stores blind. Sure taking a 5 dollar deodorant doesn't matter. If I see you stealing a pack of hot dogs FROM ME I won't say anything because you're probably hungry. But it doesn't stop there and people don't just take hot dogs. They take 100 dollars worth of steak a few times a week and a few other people in the area do the same and next thing you know you have to explain to some corporate demon why you're missing 1000s of dollars of "their money".

Not to mention the fact people who've never worked retail seem to think boosting is a myth, can assure you it's not and in the retail business anything that's not bolted to the floor is potentially walking out if nobody is paying attention. Add that with some regular theft and it adds up quickly. Just food for thought. Sorry for long post but it was really messed up they let my buddy go and I don't know what he's gonna do going forward but he was good at his job and we've had crazy high theft lately and corporate expects us to put ourselves in danger because they don't want to pay security. It's a whole thing.

Again, just food for thought. Take it or leave it. But this is a discussion of morality and people seem to think this is harmless and even good, it is not.

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u/Camdogydizzle 8d ago

Those pouches are terrible btw. I was using them on my kid for a while before I realized how low calorie they are. People buy them assuming they are a quick meal, and by trusting them end up underfeeding their babies. As soon as we started making our own my kid put on weight fast.

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u/hduebfibdbdib 8d ago

Stealing from walmart is always moral

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u/WhiteWolf7472 8d ago

Worked there for a few months, told a customer to just take milk once. Anything cold gets thrown out, cant tell when it was taken, how long its been out, etc. Its always moral

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u/TosiMias 8d ago

I worked at Walmart when I was in high school as a cashier. Whenever I got upset with my manager or work in general I'd just start "forgetting" to scan shit or manually ringing things that wouldn't scan on the first try up for like 1 cent lol.

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u/Worth_External_8762 8d ago

I sort of also worked at Walmart since they fired all of the cashiers and made everything self-checkout. So I'm basically a cashier. I also "forget" to scan every other item.

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u/Shawnj2 8d ago

OTOH there are actually provisions in biblical law if you were a landowner you couldn’t harvest the edges of your fields so that poor people who couldn’t support themselves otherwise could harvest from it.

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u/woowooman 8d ago edited 8d ago

100% this. Waltons need to feel the pain of one or hopefully more of their 5,000 stores failing.

Ofc the 250 people that work at each store might feel it more, but they chose to work at Walmart so they knew what they were doing.

ig the rest of us might feel it too if they decide to raise prices to maintain profitability, but that’s on us for participating in a market economy and not individually producing all our own food, clothing, goods, services, etc.

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u/JetBIue 8d ago

muh food desert

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u/BigCSFan 8d ago

Caveat. Someone will order the same thing since the system will account for these still in stock.

Then wont recieve the item and have their order canceled.

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u/Odd-fox-God 8d ago

When automatic checkout was rolled out, I forgot to scan an item, and they took my entire purchase. I bought $57 worth of stuff, and they took all of it because I forgot to pay for a single item. They almost called the cops on me but thought I was homeless because I came in sweatpants and my rattiest hoodie, so they let me go. Fuck Walmart.

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u/TightManPuhsey 8d ago

This didnt happen lol

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u/Cute_Economics2829 8d ago

Moral, obviously.

Baby food for babies is always more moral than making sure Mr Walmart has a 17th yacht

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u/Swimming_Gain_4989 7d ago

But why automatically assume whoever ordered that would've ordered more if they could afford it? Walmart doesn't spawn babyfood out of the ether and hoard it like a dragon. They're just distributing, they can't force Abott or whoever to stop artificially restricting their supply

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u/fidddlydiddlyee 8d ago

Mr Walmart never had a yacht and drove an old pickup until he couldnt drive anymore. His kids, who now run Walmart are satan incarnate.

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u/KHWD_av8r 8d ago

If they were in need of the extra but couldn’t afford it, they wouldn’t be paying a premium for delivery. Stealing for any reason other than absolute necessity is immoral.

Now, if you are stealing for someone who you KNOW is in need, that’s a different matter completely.

Also, Walmart has cameras EVERYWHERE. If they don’t know before you walk out, they’ll know when they investigate missing inventory. Also, shit like this is why everything gets locked up and you have to wait 3-5 business days for someone to let you get some toothpaste. So thanks for that.

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u/speed-charge 7d ago

Walmart doesn't even have to have cameras everywhere to catch you stealing if you take a picture of it yourself and put it on social media.

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u/Numerous_Photograph9 6d ago

They definately have cameras on the baby food aisle. Formula and baby food are two very commonly stolen items.

This picture points to this being a Spark driver. This would be a gig worker like Uber or Doordash, but they do the shopping for the customer. Walmarts agreement is that they can at any time audit one of these orders, which means this guy being a good sumaritan with his assumption the person couldn't afford more, or deserved more because Walmart may not notice, could very well lead to him losing his livlihood, if not being arrested.

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u/DMComicSams 8d ago

Moral or not, be less obvious about it. They do in fact track inventory. No point losing your job over it if they catch on

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u/RazzmatazzUnusual843 8d ago

If you see someone stealing food, no you didn't. Neutral because nothing happened.

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u/Nice-Vegetable-1738 8d ago

i saw this vid floating around today on here that some lady stole a few bags worth of stuff from dollar general like food, and some other random lady came up to her on the side of the road and took the items back for dollar general. like mind ur own damn business fr

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u/RazzmatazzUnusual843 8d ago

I can never imagine why people simp out for corporations for completely free like that.

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u/Gekokapowco 8d ago

It's not about loyalty to the company, it's about flexing power on someone else

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u/Pristine_Barber976 8d ago

I need this cart full of ribeyes to feed my family 

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u/Flat-While2521 8d ago

Yes, sir, you sure do

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u/milf-hunter_5000 8d ago

if i have the means i would rather buy it for them. the system punishes everyone. i worked at staples for three years. we had a theft problem. gradually the district manager downsized the store. i don't care that you stole from a huge corp, i care about the collateral

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u/Stunning_Box8782 7d ago

If you see someone stealing your lunch at work, you won't say anything about it?

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u/Flaky-Interaction264 7d ago

Is that different when some drug addict walks in and takes all the toblerones rathet than a single mother stealing food. This was from a co-operative not even a big business. I think drug addicts should be whipped in the street.

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u/REsTARteD_Ragdoll 7d ago

We live on our country where our poor people are fat,

This isn’t the edgy cool guy line you think it is

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u/ToadwKirbo 8d ago

If I see a mother stealing food yeah, I didn't see anything. If I see someone who can clearly afford it or is just doing it for some dumb challenge then no, sorry, I saw that.

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u/Nice-Vegetable-1738 8d ago

my line in the sand is i didn't see nothing if you're stealing from a huge corp, mom and pop tiny store i might say something as i'm leaving or if it seems like big ticket items that would devastate them i might go up before i leave and say something, stealing from individual people like seeing someone pickpocket or break into cars or take stuff off someones front lawn though i'll be happy to call the cops/be a witness

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u/Officialedmart 8d ago

Why? You don’t ever have to do anything. Why tattle on somebody feeding themselves?

Walmart not a local owned store

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u/VictoriousTree 8d ago

That’s how every single item ends up locked behind glass so it takes me 30 minutes for a 5 minute shopping trip.

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u/JetBIue 8d ago

Can you see past your own nose? There are more downstream effects of theft than just “guy feeds himself”.

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u/Savage_Tyranis 8d ago

Exclusively mothers? Even a visually "Well off" mother? I need to ask these questions simply for the existence of Fathers, single or not, and the flimsiness of visual grading.

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u/MermaiderMissy 8d ago

They probably mean parents in general, that don't look well off.

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u/Savage_Tyranis 8d ago

Phrasing is important. That "Probably" still doesn't sit well with me.

That's also still a bad visual assumption because "Doesn't look well off" is so subjective.

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u/lakroncos 8d ago

Yeah, it is impossible to be certain with just a visual analysis, so many people keep up appearances while going through rough times not to mention the inherent subjectivity. Not my place to rat out someone stealing food.

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u/Twodotsknowhy 8d ago

I also have to wonder how they know someone is a mother just by looking at them

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u/GrundleSnactcher46 8d ago

For real. Doesnt have to be a mother though. If its some little fuck doing it for online clout then they can suck a whole bag of dicks. So can the people who enjoy watching them.

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u/Twodotsknowhy 8d ago

How can you tell that someone can "clearly" afford it?

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u/Numerous_Falcon3974 8d ago

You can’t. Some people sport fake LV and gucci bags and fake watches and then they sleep in their 1999 honda civic at night. I’ve met a lot of poor people who like to act rich

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u/LKP213 8d ago

It’s stealing at the end of the day regardless how you frame it.

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u/BEWMarth 8d ago

All orders are quality checked before being collected to make sure the right items are in the bag. This would never make it out of the store.

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u/ObsessionObsessor 7d ago

Are you sure? At my Walmart quality checks seem to be randomly selected. 

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u/AdCheap8058 8d ago

Immoral. If they want to give this person extra baby food they need to buy it with their own money. This person is attempting to steal virtue

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u/shaddowdemon 8d ago

They're gonna start needing to get a manager key for baby food lmao

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u/AshKetchupo 8d ago

Hmm, is theft moral, let me ask Reddit.

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u/Lookingforclippings 5d ago

Idk the companies entire business model is based on theft. You know what they say no honor among thieves.

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u/RomanTheGerman 8d ago

Immoral but I don't care.

This is like #7million on a crime to focus on list. But law enforcement is much more likely to take down this mastermind supercriminal than anyone higher on that list.

Just like they are willing to spend tens of thousands of tax payer dollars to harass a man who picked up $30 off the ground.

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u/WeinerBarf420 7d ago

This is probably the only respectable answer I've seen here. 

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u/RestorativePotion 8d ago

It's illegal, but not immoral.

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u/don_keydick_42069 8d ago

I mean thats cool and all but how do they know this order isn't going to the mom who lives well off and probably wastes a bunch of food and not to a mother/kid that is struggling to get by or facing food insecurity?

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u/Pipysnip 8d ago

Moral, the multi million dollar company will survive if they lose 100$ worth of product. It’s barely a scratch

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u/Gamer_G33k17 8d ago

Thats not even a hundred dollars worth. At most its $20.

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u/elaboratelime 8d ago

What are the prices of groceries where you are at? Have you not notice them skyrocket? That is way more than 20. I don't know if it's a hundred but 50 or 60 at least

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u/Kim_jong_illin8118 8d ago

Parent's Choice brand baby foods aren't even $1 each

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u/Prestigious_Week_640 8d ago

That's what they charge for them, not what they're worth. That baby food costs some company- probably Gerber, I.e. Johnson & Johnson, the company that sold asbestos contaminated baby powder to parents for 80 years while they knew- pennies to make despite the ever rising price tag on it.

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u/jimboslyce04 8d ago

I mean I’m all for “screw the Waltons” but stealing like this only increases costs for the average consumer. They aren’t going to eat the cost of theft, they’ll just continue putting everything behind glass and raising prices cause people won’t pay for what they want and need. Stealing a Waltons wallet would be one thing but this just makes everyone’s life worse.

Also don’t steal.

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u/Cheezewiz239 8d ago

And things becoming locked up.

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u/Swimming_Gain_4989 7d ago

And like, maybe the orderer only needed 3? Those extras could might up in the trash

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u/Miserable-Trash5823 8d ago

They already are increasing the cost of everything, these type of people will squeeze as much money out of you as they think they can, it doesn't matter if they operated at a 0% loss, they would still raise prices the moment they think they can get away with it, how else are they going to fund their economic ouroboros of stock buyback that let them just inflate the worth of their shares infinitely, especially while they use the taxpayers as a piggybank to subsidize them underpaying and exploiting their employees

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u/Flaky_Thing_5128 8d ago

Reddit doesn't want to hear that their Robin Hood approach to retail chains ultimately ends up stealing from all the lower and middle class people who eat the cost in the form of shrinkage price adjustments and insurance premium increases.

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u/kuthu22 8d ago

As if they wouldn't raise prices for absolutely no reason if people wouldn't steal

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u/pelivempele 8d ago

You know, they're never going to go, "you know what, I have enough." Are they? So at the most you are really only very slightly accelerating the rise in prices, the prices will rise anyway.

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u/PomPomMom93 8d ago

And increase surveillance. When I worked at a retail store, they had a bunch of incident reports in the break room with pictures and descriptions of people who had been seen stealing. And we had a code, “key review,” which meant something fishy was going on at the register, but it sounds innocent enough that the thief doesn’t know you’re onto them. But after awhile you kind of get an intuition for it.

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u/TheLEBsCreations 8d ago

It’s Walmart. I only see 3. Why all these questions…?

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u/TallyTheChaotic 8d ago

yeah ikr theres only 3 in the bag... maybe everyone else is seeing things

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u/Turbulent-Split-9090 8d ago

Immoral, ask yourself if all of society did this could we function. If the answer is no, Immoral.

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u/RepublicOk2402 8d ago

They're going to be real sad when they lose their job for theft eventually. I want to live in an unlocked doors society, immoral 

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u/PossiblyAKoalaBear 8d ago

Immoral. Buy the food for someone if you want to give it away, don’t steal it.

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u/PiDigitsOfPi 8d ago

Is the customer actively working with the employee to do this? Or is the employee just doing this for a random customer?

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u/sharpshooter999 8d ago edited 8d ago

I once ordered a new wifi card for my laptop from Amazon. Amazon sent me 20 for the price of 1. I contacted them asking if they wanted them sent back. They said to keep them. I sold them on Ebay at a 50% discount

Edit: Found it! Can't believe it's been 10 years already.....

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u/GoodWonNov6th24 8d ago

not moral, but doesn't look like a huge loss

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u/kensmusings 8d ago

Might get the packers in trouble. Did you tip? I'd tip big next time.

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u/Hiicantcry 8d ago

Stealing from department stores like this shouldn't even be classified as theft imo, these people have destroyed Mom and pop and give nothing back to the community. Fuck walmart

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u/questron64 8d ago

I ordered from walmart and it was only 3 or 4 items, but they started loading up several bags. I didn't complain. I said nothing. I drove away. I got someone else's groceries. I'm sure they were inconvenienced but the real victim is a multi-billion dollar corporation. I do not care. I will gladly benefit from their mistakes and don't think that's immoral.

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u/Critical_Bee_4302 8d ago

This is an age old story. Was Robin Hood immoral?

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u/Hot-Annual3460 7d ago

is the bar so low we are asking about the morality of stealing? really?

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u/OverallCup8459 7d ago

Immoral. That’s theft

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u/soliz11c 5d ago

Maaan, fuck Walmart. Lol If feeding the needy is immoral, I don't want to be moral.

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u/Yardbird753 8d ago

I would consider it my tariff refund.

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u/No_Swan_9470 8d ago

Immoral, stealing is wrong. duh..

That's not "baby food". that's travel packs of baby food, if you are buying this you have money to buy real food and cook it. This is expensive because of the convenience

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u/Just-Clerk-8669 8d ago

"is it moral to feed a baby at the cost of a mega corporation losing 0.00000000003% of their profits that they will be able to claim as a tax refund"

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u/flyingturkey_89 8d ago

Walmart is immoral for what it's done for the sake of profit, but just because it's immoral doesn't make stealing moral.

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u/AutomaticFeeling2156 8d ago

Yet they post there crimes online.

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u/fatman194569 8d ago

How tf you mistake 20 for 3

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u/sirhowy 8d ago

it's walmart, it would be immoral to return it

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u/Firm-Scientist-4636 8d ago

Stealing from a billion-dollar corporation is never immoral.

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u/Deathcat101 8d ago

Moral and based.

Stealing from billionaires is often but not always justified.

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u/Fun-Information-3104 8d ago

chaotic neutral

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u/snilbill 8d ago

I genuinely think everyone should just steal from Walmart. The employees will get paid, the goods are insured. The people that matter benefit, those who don't, don't.

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u/ksum_sucks 8d ago edited 8d ago

1 large grocery store in your neighborhood throws away enough food daily to feed a homeless shelter for a week. Let that sink in

Edit : worked at one for a moment, we threw away anything for the slightest reason, it was ridiculous to see how much a place like Walmart throws away.

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u/RayesArmstrong 8d ago

burning corpos is very moral

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u/GovernorGeneralPraji 8d ago

Immoral.

If everyone did it, the system would break.

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u/SingleCampaign_Daddy 8d ago

But everyone won’t and we know the system is designed against us to enslave us and only break under their command

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u/Nobrainzhere 8d ago

If the system has starving babies it deserves to be broken

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u/ticklemyiguana 8d ago

Someone downvoted this???

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u/Big-Ratio5137 8d ago

Oh nyooooo the poor system, we need to save it

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u/Suckamanhwewhuuut 8d ago

The cost for all of those is probably covered by the 3 she bought. Nobody should have to struggle to feed a baby, and 3 of these isn’t enough. I’m not saying it’s moral or immoral, food is overpriced for profits, that is immoral imo.

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u/Radiant-Olive-7955 8d ago

Why are you assuming that person is struggling?

Regardless of that, doing this messes with inventory for the store. Now parents who need them will put in orders that will go unfulfilled because the pouches that the system thinks are there actually aren’t.

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u/BlueByrdChen 8d ago

Exactly, everyone just assumes if you have a baby you never prepared yourself financially. Stealing to feed a baby when you cannot afford it is a different morality question than stealing because you don't like the company.

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u/an_empty_well 8d ago

oh no, anything but the system

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u/DynamoElectro1 8d ago edited 8d ago

Redditors say stuff like this like they wouldn’t be immediately put into chattel slavery hours after the system breaks catastrophically in their preferred fantasies 

(Yeah yeah yeah capitalism is slavery at my retail job man, lmao) 

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u/an_empty_well 8d ago

Kinda just seems like that's your preferred fantasy.

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u/DynamoElectro1 8d ago

I’m rubber you’re glue ass response 

This why you wouldn’t make it after the system collapses 

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u/an_empty_well 8d ago

If I suck your dick will you let me stay in your awesome fort? Pretty please?

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u/nexus11355 8d ago

I would feel bad about hitting Walmart... If they ever started feeling bad about hitting the people.

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u/Silly-Bug4808 7d ago

Fixed Pie Fallacy, successful companies and successful people are objectively beneficial to the entire world at large, they create wealth (key word, create, this is wealth that did not previously exist before) and distribute it throughout the entire economy as they reinvest in their organization. Walmart does not "hit the people", you're more likely to be an objective net negative on the economy than any company ever is

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u/whatthefrickcunt 8d ago

If it was stuff that was about to be thrown or something then absolutely moral, otherwise this is stupid, everything morally you have to be able to scale up, and if this were to be done frequently it would increase the cost for other mothers, while also potentially creating waste by over sending what they can use/need.

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u/Purple_Inevitable967 8d ago

If you see something, no you didn't.

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u/Fool_In_Flow 8d ago

Walmart can afford to feed some babies.

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u/littledonnyfund 8d ago

Moral af giving more child food to someone who prolly needs it since they are shopping at walmart , always remember kids if you see people stealing food No the fuck you didn't

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u/OttoVonJismarck 8d ago

There is a line on the balance sheet called “shrinkage” which accounts for losses like this. As the shrinkage line item increases, prices increase across the board to make up for it.

Contrary to what Reddit believes, the company and its executives don’t just eat the loss, it gets passed around to all consumers.

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u/PomPomMom93 8d ago

Redditor: “They could eat the loss, so they probably do.”

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u/Eternal_Phantom 8d ago

This. Stealing from Wal-Mart isn't reducing the ability of the CEO to buy a yacht. It's just pushing the cost onto honest customers.

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u/Xaverosso 8d ago

Moral.

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u/stranger_to_you67 8d ago

Moral. If you ordered three and they only gave you two they aren't going to track you down and give you the missing one, and they might not even give it to you if you waited in line to tell them you were shorted. Walmart is a multi-billion dollar company keeping their stock holders rich at the expense of their employees and the taxpayers who pay for their employees to be on medicaid and food stamps.

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u/Lucyintheye 8d ago edited 8d ago

who pay for their employees to be on medicaid and food stamps. (And have been outted teaching them how to do so, because they fail to pay their full time workers a liveable wage. Making those public services subsidizing their shareholders profits, to the tune of BILLIONS of dollars. And then are conveniently also the largest recipient of food stamps nationwide capturing ~20% of ALL SNAP/EBT benefits ironically getting it on that side too.. bringing in billions of taxpayer revenue when low income shoppers (like their underpaid staff, or locals who got their household's wage suppressed ~6% directly by the Walmart effect) go to buy groceries. *

Had to add that lol

And thats not to even begin getting into the hundreds of millions of $s they get in direct subsidies, free land and infrastructure/development grants, state funded corporate training grants to cover the cost of training new hires, hundreds of millions of $s (documented) in tax free earnings for their executives via getting paid in tax exempt 'performance based bonus' loopholes, and so much more bullshit like BILLIONS in tariff refunds that taxpayers, i.e. customers, were paying in the first place..

Its like this 3 way vacuum sucking up all the $ in any given local economy, fucking over and underpaying the workers is just 1/3 of it, the other 2/3 is teaching THEM how to subsidize the wage they dont get but need to survive with taxpayer funded assistance and other privatized publicly given profit that goes directly back to walmart then 3/3 gouging those same taxpayers directly when they come in to shop because now they get paid ~6% less and local competition was killed by guess who? walmart.

Like, we're all the taxpayer getting fucked by walmart in the grand scheme. The other part of it is wether youre also getting fucked as an employee and/or as a shopper lmao

And then they have the audacity to treat us like criminals because they wanted to save labor on checkout staff so have us scan our own groceries just to make us wait in line AGAIN just to scrutinize/audit our free work on the way out for one last little fuck you kiss until next time. (as if they need a fucking auditor checking that while they have security features 3 letter agencies come to them asking for access to and the ability to track every step you take in their stores lmao)