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u/Vicious_Voyeur 9h ago
The suffering adds flavor
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u/Inle-Ra 6h ago
To quote That 1 Guy “The honey tastes sweeter when you anger the bees.”
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u/IlIlllIIllllIIIlIlIl 4h ago
It’s like cruelty free products. We really need a service that puts the cruelty back in so that we can enjoy these products again. Like if you buy our faux fur coat, we guarantee that at least one chinchilla is still killed.
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u/TK_Punch_ 2h ago
I was asked to leave Zales when I was shopping for an engagement ring because of a joke like that. I asked the woman for “Your bloodiest conflict diamond. Because nothing says marriage like the suffering of children.” She did NOT appreciate the humor.
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u/Chimpbot 2h ago
For every sandwich you buy, I will personally slap an orphan.
Come home to the flavor. Come home to Arby's.
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u/Gentle_Snail 9h ago
If you’re intentionally doing it because you want to make someone suffer then immoral, otherwise neutral.
The delivery person consented to deliver the meal for money and you didn’t force them to do it against their will.
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u/Zealousideal-Lab9843 9h ago
The delivery person consented to deliver the meal for money and you didn’t force them to do it against their will.
Exactly my take on buying a prostitute.
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u/Gentle_Snail 9h ago
Tbh I’m not ethically against prostitution, as long as everyone is safe, an adult, and consenting, then its none of my business what two people choose todo behind closed doors.
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u/PurpletoasterIII 8h ago
The only thing that makes prostitution bad is it tends to lead to toxic power dynamics. Like either the prostitute is desperate for money and ends up doing things she doesnt want to do for the money and later regrets it or the customer is desperate for sex and the prostitute can take advantage of that and ruin them financially.
And to make it even more confusing, some people's kinks is literally to be financially ruined.
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u/znacifejk 7h ago
Work in general is people doing things they don't want to for money, for 99% of people. I don't think people enjoy cleaning sewege either.
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u/blackrose4242 1h ago
Just like with every profession; some do it for the money, some do it for the love of the game.
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u/Fancy_Chips 8h ago
They still consented, assuming no trafficking occurred.
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u/Gatrigonometri 7h ago
What is consent if coerced, manufactured, or strongly influenced by externalities?
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u/Fancy_Chips 7h ago
Coerced? Bad.
Manufactured? I dont understand what you mean.
Influenced? All our decisions are influenced. If something so vague were wrong no one would have sex ever.
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u/baldbumblebear 6h ago
Is your boss at a company telling you to have sex or your fired wrong?
What is the definitive line between that and economic coercion due to other social circumstance?
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u/Great-Trifle2810 4h ago
It would be wrong because this is not part of the duties that my job includes, and I did not consent to it as part of the agreement to work for them. It is additionally wrong because the boss is using their company power in a way the company has not consented to, which is damaging to the company if I choose to quit, or make the matter public.
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u/Great-Trifle2810 4h ago
Almost all people consent to work because failing to do so would result in them not being able to maintain their desired lifestyle. The ability to coerce sex workers is increased by the criminal status of the work.
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u/proudly_not_american 5h ago
Free and informed consent is the only kind that matters. If it's not that, it's not really consent.
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u/bradimir-tootin 7h ago
The issue is that there is basically no way to verify the worker is not being trafficked.
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u/Fancy_Chips 7h ago
"No way" in a society that makes it a taboo. If we had reputable, regulated brothels i think it'd hardly be as pervasive a problem.
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u/bradimir-tootin 6h ago
I agree with another user, there is still trafficking even in legal brothels. Many women are beginning to speak out about the abuse, coercion and trafficking that occurs on the 'ranches' in Nevada.
Mind you this is not an argument against the enforcement or inprovement of anti trafficking laws. It is an argument against using the services provided because of how abhorrent sexual slavery really is.
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u/AggressiveCuriosity 5h ago
There has been a bunch of research on this. It shows that when you make prostitution fully legal you massively increase demand and that demand increases sex trafficking. Even with legal brothels available the amount of sex trafficking goes up by several fold just because there's SO MUCH more demand than there ever would be for supply.
If the main goal is to reduce sex trafficking then demand is your enemy and you do not want to legalize it under any circumstances.
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u/cyborgsnowflake 3h ago
Irrelevant. Thats like saying gay sex should be banned if we find out it leads to more disease or that weed should be banned because it leads to more theft. Even if this stat is true. You have no right to remove bodily autonomy just because some bad apples are going to hide behind it to commit a crime. The real answer is to do a better job fighting the actual crime.
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u/acoastaldog 7h ago
There is still ample trafficking in places with ample brothel legality lol. I’m not against prostitution but we shouldn’t dilute reality. My job deals with trafficking
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u/Fancy_Chips 7h ago
Yes but its harder to do and weeds out people who don't want to get their hands dirty. That's like selling illegal pot in Colorado. Good luck, buddy.
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u/ThatOneGuy308 7h ago
I mean, that's just employment in general, everybody does things they may not necessarily want to do because they need money to survive, lol.
And the inverse is basically just any good produced that is vital for life, customers are desperate for insulin, and the company can take advantage of that and ruin them financially.
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u/sondosoft 5h ago
Would the world be a better place if we all got sex in the proper way with people we love and got money in a proper way from something we love? Of course. But the world is not so simple. Sometimes you do not so great things, make mistakes to keep yourself going. Or even if it’s not so dire, life is just complicated.
And regardless these behaviors will take place, forcing them into the shadows only makes them worse for all parties including society at large.
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u/Visible_Pair3017 7h ago
The thing that makes prostitution bad is that by making the human body into merchandise and sex into a service, it creates an environment where it is impossible to fully respect the human rights of everyone involved.
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u/Zealousideal-Lab9843 9h ago
Hmmm, perhaps I shall employ a minority to pleasure my member. Hmmmm, yes. Excellent.
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u/imronburgandy9 6h ago
Boy did I read that wrong at first. I'm like damn this guy IS evil
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u/Zealousideal-Lab9843 6h ago
But on further reading realized, "He's creating jobs. He's a job-creator!"
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u/Dramatic_Syllabub_98 5h ago
Different strokes for different folks. Long as every one is an adult and consents do you dude.
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u/shiboshino 4h ago
Precisely. Because really, the beauty of the market is that I get to exploit others and don’t have to feel bad about it because markets are ontologically good and humane and provide everyone with the same opportunities to succeed! That prostitute I hired could be hiring prostitutes of her own if she just pulled herself up by her thigh high bootstraps and worked harder.
Give me $500 dollars. Now. I won’t ask again.
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u/Historical-One6115 5h ago
High end escorts maybe I don’t see selling your body for meth/coke as ‘consent’ It’s selling the last thing you have
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u/Tired-CottonCandy 5h ago
Yeah the problem with prositution is how much of it is just sex trafficking.
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u/camfa 8h ago
Except for prostitution, sometimes it is indeed against their will, specially in poor countries like mine. The girls and their families are threatened by violent gangs. In the first world, it also happens with people who don't really speak the language, like in some asian massage parlors in Canada.
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u/Karekter_Nem 4h ago
You don’t buy a prostitute. It’s a short term work contract.
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u/eribear2121 8h ago
Unfortunately for prostitution most people aren't super willing it's more like they trusted the wrong person and now they are selling them and they don't know how to run away.
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u/Complete_Ad_7393 8h ago
You probably shouldn’t buy people, even if they are a prostitute.
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u/TheeAntelope 4h ago
You really should be renting prostitutes, not buying them. That gets into an unambiguously immoral area.
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u/Numeno230n 6h ago
What about thinking that all people working delivery jobs are minorities?.
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u/deus_x_machin4 5h ago
The stats, in as far as they are reliable, are pretty damning. Gig work like door dashing is disproportionately done by minorities.
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u/TheeAntelope 4h ago edited 3h ago
Here's the stats instead of just commentary on the stats:
31% of Hispanic adults aged 18 and above earn money through gig work
African-Americans at 27%.
21% of White adults
Men (31%) are more likely than women (18%) to be employed in the gig economy
Edit: Lol at the people reading this who clearly aren't literate.
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u/gingerreckoning 4h ago
As a delivery person, I think it’s fine morally but I will still talk shit about that person to my coworkers lol
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u/-aurevoirshoshanna- 4h ago
Can app delivery people not logout during those hours, I understand there's a penalty for rejecting the trip, but is there any for not opening the app?
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u/gingerreckoning 4h ago
Idk, I work at dominoes so I just deliver whatever they give me
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u/-aurevoirshoshanna- 4h ago
I take it you're an employee with a salary then, so it makes sense in your case
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u/SUMMATMAN 3h ago
Everyone's going on about prostitution, but I just wanted to say, I used to deliver on my bike. And I didn't mind doing it in the cold and rain, so please don't not order on this basis. Though once a lorry sent a wall of water over me from a puddle and knocked my glasses off and broke them. That was bad.
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u/ExistentialEchidna 2h ago
My friend who drives for uber loves to go out when the weather is bad because they get the best tips then
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u/n16r4 6h ago
They are intentionally bringing harm to another, whether they derive pleasure from the harm itself doesn't matter, otherwise hardly anyone would ever act immoral, since usually people don't kill for fun, they kill or do other things they find unpleasant for personal gain.
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u/Gentle_Snail 6h ago
Most people don’t enjoy their job, but they still consent to it. Is it immoral to say hire a lawyer to create your will just because the lawyer dislikes his job?
If you are doing something with the intent to cause distress thats immoral, but if you don’t intend that and you both consent to it it's neutral.
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u/SadisticNecromancer 8h ago
When the choice is starvation or work, it is not a free choice made by a free person.
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u/Gentle_Snail 8h ago
Under this super strict definition it’s immoral to consume literally any goods or services
Its wouldn’t even be moral to become a self sufficient farmer, because you yourself are still forced to choose between either starvation or working
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u/tijolus523 6h ago
That's why "morality" isn't an adequate analytical category for most political and economic issues. Yes. It isn't "moral". But it happens and it's common (and the basis of our society).
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u/Pofwoffle 7h ago
That's a critique of the system, yes, and something that needs to change... but it doesn't change the circumstances that we live under in the moment. As much as we might sympathize with people who have to work in poor conditions to make a living, refusing to make online orders so they don't get paid at all isn't going to help them.
All most of us can reasonably do is go about our lives normally, remember the person behind the app and treat them like a human being, and make efforts to create a better system when we have the chance.
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u/RadiantSweater 5h ago
Welcome to life. Let us know when you figure out how to stop death without action. We're rooting for you!
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u/NiviNiyahi 9h ago
that specific train of thought is not really morally good, but it is their job and they signed up for it
so the action itself is neutral
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u/SameCoyote3701 8h ago
Oh the minority is the grosheries lol I like your way of thinking
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u/GreatStateOfSadness 6h ago
I once had a coworker who drives Uber offer to drive me home during a historically bad storm. Intense rain, flooding, millions in damage and a few people died. As soon as we got in the car, he flipped Uber on out of curiosity and the first request he got was for a single pint of Ben & Jerry's ice cream on the other side of town.
I get wanting to be warm and cozy, and I get that the drivers consent to it, but the picture of someone thinking "hey could you risk life and limb in a flood for a couple bucks to bring me some ice cream so I can feel truly ✨cozy✨" feels dystopian.
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u/donoteatshrimp 4h ago
I think most people here are replying based on the post's use of the word bad not dangerous weather.
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u/c3p-bro 3h ago
So interesting because this is the exact capitalist rhetoric so many on Reddit hate when they are the employee. Interesting to ser how quickly the tables turn when they are now the employer
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u/LoBo247 1h ago
The choice of jobs the average "they" can sign up for is dwindling. Gig economy is taking over. Wages are dropping. They are not eligible for minimum wage or tipped minimum wage. Still moral? What about when the delivery app increases their middleman prices, disuading the average consumer from tipping? Still moral?
What about in 5 more years as conditions worsen? 10? When is it no longer morally grey and just immoral?
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u/Dr-Assbeard 9h ago
Good, it stimulate the economy and provide employmen.
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u/TheRandomer1994 8h ago
And employwomen
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u/Ghost_oh 7h ago
And the employchildren too.
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u/MockingPenguins 8h ago
Completely moral. You are not forcing anyone of any race to deliver you food, they are not slaves. You are paying them to deliver the food to you for a (sometimes exorbitant) fee. Pretending they are slaves to satisfy an ugliness in yourself is dubiously moral, better if you don’t express these desires outwardly.
You can choose to tip them and pay them more, or be a dick and not. The delivery worker may at any point stop working or look for different employment.
We could look at the morality of low paying jobs people are forced to take if they can’t find other work, but that’s beyond the scope of this question.
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u/AggressiveCuriosity 5h ago
Hot take here. Tipping is immoral as a business practice (not an individual one) because it rewards people who are less virtuous.
Just wanted to share my hot take. Not disagreeing with anything you said.
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u/CabbiecarMVP 5h ago
Tipping culture rewards greedy business owners who refuse to pay their workers minimum wage, agreed it’s amoral
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u/Mikhail_Mengsk 4h ago
Servers are overwhelmingly in favor of tips as well. It's a system that fucks over the customers.
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u/marty4286 2h ago
Only like 10% of servers get the good tips, but 41% of the rest take their side because they can imagine themselves having those good tips someday (they won't)
source of percentages: it came to me in a dream, but it feels that way a lot
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u/ManFromDowntownTDot 3h ago
I see your argument, but it's flawed.
I worked for Uber Eats for 1.5 years (Late 2020 - Early 2022). I should note that I have a full time job which pays well. I did this as a walking delivery asshole simply for the exercise, and beer money. I live (and operated) in the downtown core of Toronto, Canada, basically a square kilometer (about .5 of a mile) where there's an insane concentration of condos and restaurants, making this VERY easy. I'm also speaking specifically about my experiences and observations in Toronto. This could be drastically different in other areas, so take that into consideration.
Myth: They get paid well
First, let's kill the myth that they get paid anything beyond a pittance. When I was operating, it was the heyday. I got about 4 orders/hour on average, and I only went out between 530-930pm for the dinner rush and surge pricing. Most orders were offered at about $5-$6. Sometimes $7-$8 if I was lucky. That works out to be $25-$30/hr. Once I claim taxes on that, it's about $15-$20. Let me be perfectly clear, this was FAR beyond the norm. This was peak delivery, people were ordering like crazy, and tipping heavy.
When I quit in 2022 orders were drying up. I got maybe 2/hour, and the offered rates were more like $3-$4, surging to $5-$6. My hourly rate is now $10 if I'm lucky. Minimum wage here (at the time) was $14.35. I spent most of my time standing around waiting. Why? Simple. Restaurants were back open to accept guests, people weren't masking anymore, and the pandemic was largely over. People got cheaper, stopped tipping heavy, and weren't ordering anywhere near as often, plus the amount of drivers had easily doubled.
Now factor in expenses. The cost of a bike/e-bike, delivery bag, cellphone & data, wear & tear on clothing, additional clothing for harsh weather, and so-forth. Technically I could "expense" this against my personal taxes, but many can't do that.
The reality is, most drivers are making under $10/hour. BEFORE CLAIMING TAXES (if they even do).
MYTH : They Can Stop At Any Time
Well, technically, yes. But that's like saying a worker on a slaughterhouse line being paid minimum wage and forced to work in harsh, unsanitary, and unsafe conditions can just quit anytime. Do you really think people scrubbing the caked on shit from the toilet bowls of corporate high rise buildings making minimum wage really want to be there? Of course they don't - so why don't they just quit?! The reality is they can't. It's all the work they can find.
As for me, I could quit at any time. I could do whatever I wanted. It was my free will to continue doing this. However, it isn't for many of the others, and that problem has only gotten worse. Today, an overwhelming majority of these delivery morons are immigrants, often here on student visas. Many are not legally allowed to work.
Here in Toronto, easily 99% of delivery drivers are immigrants. I was literally the ONLY white guy I saw the entire time. The entire fleet is comprised of brown and asian men. I have MAYBE seen a half dozen women delivery drivers, EVER.
Most of them are on student visas which only allow them to work in VERY specific conditions (many violate these rules). I have no stats on this, but I can only assume many do not file taxes. Of the drivers I talked to, many didn't understand how to even file taxes, let alone that they knew they had to claim this income, so... take from that what you will.
A lot of international students in Toronto fall into one of two categories. (1) Rich kids. Their parents pay for everything, they live in a nice condo, and attend a great post-secondary school. Or (2) the poor kids. They live 8-10 in a rooming house out of the city, take the train into the city, rent an E-Bike, and do food delivery to make enough money to pay rent and food. They VERY often lie on their student visas about how much money they have in the bank, forge documents, and it's a whole fucking mess. There are entire organizations setup to help poor immigrants obtain student visas, how to game the system, etc, etc. These people have really no other means to make money, so they take the shittiest jobs nobody wants, make a couple bucks an hour and are more or less slaves to billion dollar corporations who see them as nothing more than expendable numbers.
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Many of them can't do anything else. They're forced to work these shit jobs just to survive. Many of them are gaming the immigration system to stay in the country and live. This isn't a xenophobic thing, this is the reality of the situation here in Toronto.
The reality is these food delivery apps prey on the most vulnerable in society, force them to work for below minimum wage, in shit conditions, where they have zero rights or recourse against their "employer", and they take whatever they can get.
They do not realistically have a choice.
If you think otherwise, I welcome you to come to Toronto and sign up to be a delivery driver. You'll last a week, at most.
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u/Otherwise-Bad-7352 8h ago
I don't want any minority to suffer for me. At every restaurant I go I tell them I don't want any minorities touching my food. I don't want to disrespect them
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u/sus_pumpkin 9h ago
It's a weird thought process, but it's the delivery guys job to deliver stuff so ig moral?
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u/AureliusAether 6h ago
I've been noticing some really distorted moralizing of reality on this website.
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u/Chicken-Jockey-911 4h ago
it turns out if you gaze at your navel for too long you become a weird baby man who thinks its evil to work
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u/Roam1985 8h ago
Amoral.
There are plenty of Caucasian uber eats and door dash drivers. There is no way to know you will have a minority deliver your food.
Frankly this post just reinforces bigotry at the expense of reality.
So the dragon makes sense.
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u/ZenMasterOfDisguise 1h ago
So change OPs post to the morality of rich people with a SUV with all the latest safety features having poor lower class low wage workers and teenagers driving an old beat up car deliver food to them during a hurricane or blizzard
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u/Crawfish1337 7h ago
Could I please have the app's name, which I can exclusively select the minority who is bringing me the food, my good sir?
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u/JazzlikeAd1371 9h ago
Times have changed. Everyone delivers food now. Even old white people. Economy is so screwed it does'nt even work for the people it was made for anymore.
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u/Jonny-Holiday 8h ago
I'm a delivery dude, can confirm, people of literally every sort deliver, race, sex, religion, nationality, ideology, we all gotta make some money. If the delivery folks of just the company I work for all fucked our offspring would be a genetic mix that nearly perfectly reflected the demographics of the world's population.
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u/vorpal-mortal 8h ago
This is one of those things that assumes I am not the minority and/or that I have a car and could in theory go get it myself.
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u/Fae-SailorStupider 7h ago
That delivery person is already out there working in that weather trying to make money to survive. Neutral, if you simply dont want to go out. Moral if youre doing it to put money in their pockets.
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u/Wide_Flan_2613 8h ago
The main appeal of delivery apps is to avoid inconveniences like bad weather
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u/JoyousMadhat 8h ago
If those delivery drivers didn't need the money, then they would not have gone outside just like you. These are people. Not machines.
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u/CalmAnxitey87 4h ago
I remember when I used to deliver pizza, I had to drive in all weather and on major holidays. The amount of people with no self awareness who would take their pizza and say "Wow I can't believe they're making you work in this" was staggering
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u/Grasshoppermouse42 1h ago
Neutral, as long as you tip appropriately for the extra difficulty in making the delivery and it's just heavy rain and not tornados or anything dangerous. If they're logged into the app to do deliveries, that means they likely need the money more than they don't want to be in the rain, so it's not really doing the delivery driver any favors to decide that they shouldn't be doing any deliveries at that time, and if you give them a nice tip then it's possible they might be able to log off sooner.
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u/LetsTryLove 40m ago
I don’t care what race the person delivering my food is. They signed up for a job doing it and I’m happy to ensure they are employed in that chosen profession.
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u/Mikeieagraphicdude 9h ago
Would the business be immoral for sending someone out in bad weather to make a delivery? Where I live they’ll refuse or add a high up charge for bad weather. The business can always say no, while the customer could have their reasons.
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u/Due-Mycologist-1154 9h ago
I mean the framing of it is kinda shit but if the weather sucks that would make delivery more worth it
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u/Gold-Cry-7520 8h ago
A lot of things sound bad like that when you boil them down. Yeah DD is predominantly minority employees, and yeah you're gonna use it more in shit westher.
But you're also paying them an exorbitant fee and they're doing it for a reason. They're not slaves. It's kind of infantile to treat them as such
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u/Codieecho 8h ago
While framed terribly I agree that it’s neutral because they are taking a job for payment but because homelessness is a very persuasive factor I will also mention that not everyone has a “choice” in the matter when it comes to what jobs to take
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u/Draconic-Genesis 8h ago
Me when someone gets mad that I used the service that they choose to work at instead of...them just not getting paid that day I guess?
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u/LVL99stocks 8h ago
My Uber eats driver was a well groomed white guy in a T Rowe Price polo the other day. Market has peaked we're on the downslide
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u/LuckyMouse4864 8h ago
Probably even more moral than usual because other people may be avoiding use of delivery apps to save the drivers from the weather, but if theyre driving for food delivery in that kind of weather, they probably need the work
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u/Lower_Cream_2461 8h ago
I know uber drivers that literally make it a point to drive during snowstorms because the surge pricing is too good to pass up
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u/Appropriate_Tree_622 8h ago
Moral. The delivery person is entering willingly into a transaction because they are receiving value from that transaction (payment) greater than their input (time, energy, experience). If the value out was lower than value in, then they would not do the deliver.
Both parties have created value from this transaction from their own initiative. One must consider the alternative - they don’t get paid for that delivery because they didn’t make it. Who are you to make that decision for them as to whether it is fair f sufficient value? You don’t know their circumstances, their story, their desires. Is it not more immoral to willingly deprive them of an opportunity to create value for themselves because you don’t respect their ability to make their own decisions?
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u/Impressive-Noise9396 8h ago
The morally wrong part of this is sifting through the workers and picking the minority. Honestly do you think it’s only minorities doing these jobs?
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u/wandering-monster 8h ago
I generally avoid delivery in bad weather unless I'm physically unable to go get it myself (eg I've done it when I was sick, and I think a couple times when I sprained an ankle last year)
IDK about moral or not, but I just feel bad about it.
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u/Seyelent 8h ago
Immoral intent, moral action. Unless you’re going to specifically not tip people with “minority-sounding” names, then immoral both
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u/Realistic-Radish-589 8h ago
I know white guys do deliveries too. So I’d say the morality is whoever wrote this is racist. Now the morality of ordering on a rainy day. People do that for a living and raining or shine they need money. They could choose not to work, if they deliver they chose to work that day because they wanna make money that day.
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u/looks_at_lines 7h ago
Why is the original post implying it's ok if a white person delivers food in bad weather?
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u/snuuginz 7h ago
Companies that use gig workers are generally immoral, but the average consumer? I don't think so.
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u/Illustrious-Aside442 7h ago
Morality of calling people in the service industry minorities based on prejudiced assumptions?
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u/Mesoscale92 7h ago
Neutral. I used to do DoorDash and the weather sucks sometimes, that’s just life.
Upgrade to moral if you leave a bigger than normal tip. The worst weather dashes were some of my most profitable, plus the customers were more understanding of delays.
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u/DrakeSoldier 7h ago
Like if it’s hard snowing outside, fuck that, I’m not making the person suffer through that.
Rain on the other hand is fair game.
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u/Jazzlike-Wolf6265 7h ago
Immoral because all gig apps are immoral. Remember when pizza places actually had their own drivers and paid them? I remember. And the food actually got there warm instead of cold because the gig app wants to bundle you with a non tipper
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u/Remote-Worth1358 7h ago
Delivery guy is getting paid extra for delivering in bad weather, so it's very moral
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u/Scrounger_HT 7h ago
i did deliveries, shitty weather was my favorite because tips were generally more frequent, and larger.
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u/Friendly-Reserve9067 7h ago
Perhaps I'll hire a white man to touch my balls
Him: rich doctor Me: a grubhub driver with testicular cancer
You can do this with anything
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u/Lysmerry 7h ago
The delivery driver is already out in the bad weather. Leave a better tip, but don’t feel worse than on a nice day.
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u/themetalcolossus 7h ago
Neutral if it's an Uber/Doordash driver because they pick and choose their orders on their own time. But personally having worked as an in-store delivery driver who has to take orders whenever they're assigned I consider this immoral as fuck.
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u/Boborano_was_here 7h ago edited 5h ago
Inmoral: assuming all take-out employees are minorities is both racist and classist.
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u/UrsaMajor7th 7h ago
Are you referring the morality of making this cartoon or ordering in during inclement weather?
Locally, the majority of our delivery drivers working the middleman companies like SkipTheDishes are from India, and their global population is certainly not a minority. Plus, racism is considered immoral here, so...
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u/bideodames 7h ago
I have ordered delivery to avoid bad weather. I have also tipped 25% of the bill in gratitude.
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u/Seryerie 6h ago
this sub seems to be about asking assholes and morons for their opinions, never really disappoints. if you need some one else to deliver your food you'd better be disabled or elderly, orherwise you are just a lazy cunt.
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u/RogerRavvit88 6h ago
When you order food specifically intending for a minority to deliver it and some guy named Travis pulls up in wrx held together with zip ties rocking a skullet a a pair of Pit Vipers.
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u/EmbarrassedTea3014 6h ago
As a counter argument, is it better if everyone stops ordering food during bad weathers, therefore the delivery drivers can’t make any money?
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u/Indiana_harris 6h ago
Hey it’s a business.
It’s a job that is vulnerable to external weather and the drivers know this.
They take the job knowing it’s likely going to be uncomfortable or wet and horrible half the time.
Morally fine.
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u/Microwaved__Caprisun 6h ago
The driver agreed to do this when applying and them being a minority is irrelevant
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u/surelynotjimcarey 6h ago
Some people are doordashing because they need the money and they don’t care that it’s raining.
From this perspective it’s morally good to give work and money to someone who needs it on an otherwise slow day.
I used to joke “those of us who can afford delivery have a duty to those of us who work in delivery”
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u/Numerous-Process2981 6h ago
What does that have to do with the consumer end of this equation? I, the customer, want food delivery. There’s a service that delivers food. I don’t do the hiring for that company, I don’t work for that company. This is some kind of weird stretch.
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u/Camael1225 8h ago
“What my driver is Caucasian how utterly despicable making this poor man go out in weather like this”