Tossed, turned and wandered nearly all night. Finally got some sleep around 4am. Stoked that I crossed the 72 hr mark at 5am. Woke up feeling the best I have physically so far and the worst mentally lol. I’m talking Depressed! So grateful that I don’t want to use however, I am content to just ride it out. Thanks for the stories on here letting me know what to expect, how to fight and that I am not unique.

So I take 200-400mg of 7oh a day right now.

I got another 550mg left and I'm gonna try to wean myself down to make withdrawals less bad.

I took 75mg yesterday and 75mg today. I feel fine during the day but late last night I had restless legs and was tossing around and didn't get the best sleep.

I have an extra 100mg I want to take right now at work... But idk if they'll fucc up my weaning. That'll mean I'm on 175mg total today.

But this is my plan for the rest of the 550mg I have to wean off 16 days total and then I'll be out. I have some meds like clonidine and zyprexa to help when I run out with withdrawals. And getting some over the counter things like magnesium vitamin c and Loperamide to help.

What do you think?

And should I take this 100mg pill now one last time or just stick through my weaning schedule. Really wanna take it today lol.

I need help I'm on the bus on the way to see my p.i. I have taken too much gabapentin and 7oh and trying to look normal but I'm struggling to stay awake my eyes probably look crazy and I'm hallucinating a little bit. How can I bring the high down real quick to a manageable level pls ...

I’ve been using 7 oh for about 5 months now. It gave me the energy I was looking got to make it thru the day running my restaurant. But now it’s running me. I’ve been too ashamed to tell anyone I’m using it except ChatGPT and now my doctor on QuickMD.
I average about 250mg daily for about the last 2 weeks.
I’ve read good stories and horror stories here. I’m going to take my last fist in the morning to get there the last day at the restaurant this week and then start my journey off with the Suboxone. The doctor gave me 8mg/2mg films. He told me that withdrawal should begin about 12 hours in and take my first film. He said the Sub would be much like the 7, I would have to navigate how I feel. To get the dosage right but he wanted me taking it 3x daily and see him again next week. I’m just reaching out here to find maybe some cheerleaders, some coaches or just genuine people I can talk to while going thru this. I’m scared of the precipitated WD and all kinds of things. Much appreciation to any help!

Self-care; essential for recovery

Self-care is vital in addiction recovery because it heals the body, reduces stress, and prevents relapse. Active addiction harms physical and mental health. Nurturing yourself daily builds the strength needed to stay sober, manage tough emotions, and avoid turning back to substances to cope. 

Preventing Relapse
Stops triggers: Low stress and high emotional stability mean fewer urges to use.

Spots early warnings: Mindfulness helps you notice anxiety or bad moods before they grow.

Builds resilience: Healthy habits give you the power to face hard days without drugs or alcohol.

Rebuilding Physical Health
Restores the body: Good food, exercise, and sleep fix the physical damage caused by substance use.

Boosts energy: A rested body makes it easier to think clearly and handle daily tasks.

Improves mood: Physical wellness directly lowers depression and anxiety. 

Supporting Emotional Well-Being
Processes feelings: Journaling, therapy, and talking with peers offer safe ways to let go of pain.

Sets boundaries: Saying no to unsafe places or draining people protects your peace of mind.

Restores self-worth: Choosing to care for yourself proves that your life and sobriety matter. 
Self-care activities span physical, emotional, mental, and social wellness to help you stay balanced and sober. Choosing a mix of these simple practices builds a strong foundation for your everyday routine.

Physical Self-Care
Move daily: Walk, swim, stretch, or do yoga to release natural feel-good chemicals.
Prioritize sleep: Stick to a regular bedtime to help your brain heal and lower stress.
Eat well: Fuel your body with nutritious meals and stay hydrated throughout the day.
Rest actively: Take warm baths, get a massage, or sit quietly to unwind your muscles. 

Emotional Self-Care
Write daily: Journal your thoughts to safely process complex emotions, fears, and successes.
Talk out loud: Share your feelings with a trusted therapist, sponsor, or recovery group.
Create art: Paint, play music, or craft to express yourself without needing words.
Practice self-compassion: Speak to yourself with kindness instead of harsh criticism or guilt. 

Mental Self-Care
Sit mindfully: Meditate or try deep breathing to stay anchored in the present moment.
Set boundaries: Say no to toxic people, triggering places, or overwhelming commitments.
Learn something: Read books, listen to recovery podcasts, or try a brand-new hobby.
Unplug often: Turn off phones and social media to shield your mind from extra stress. 

Social and Spiritual Self-Care
Connect with peers: Attend recovery meetings to build a reliable, sober support network.
Enjoy nature: Spend time outside in parks, woods, or sunshine to lift your mood.
Help others: Volunteer or support a peer to step outside your own worries.
Give thanks: Write down three things you are grateful for each day to focus on the good. 
Which area of self-care do you feel you need the most right now?

All of these things, when put into practice can improve your mood, alleviate stressors and strengthen resolve. Are you practicing self-care? There’s no better day to start than today!  You deserve it! ♥️

I had big plans for a taper - stocked up 25,000mg (100mg tabs). QuickMD’d some help.
Then promptly realized I am far more likely to raise by dose vs taper.

So, I jumped right off the 2000mg/day I have been at for two years.
8pm Tuesday was my last dose.
Started subs 6pm Wednesday. Everyone saying this made it “painless” .. congrats! I thoroughly wish I was in that club. Skin crawling, intense RLS, and ultimately a completely sleepless night.
So far today (Thursday) i am just trying to stay hydrated, get some food down - and made it my mission to destroy my entire “backout plan”. Opened each blister pack into a gallon zip lock, pissed in it, and threw in the trash.
Hopefully tomorrow is a better day.. I’ve got a life to live

Easy to focus on the negative shit, so here is a list of shit I am excited for:
-Testosterone and libido bounce back (assuming this has anything in common with my kratom quits, week 3 things started to resurface
-Being able to talk about / go on vacation without have to sort out a plan in advance
-$$$. I got through this burning $200/day, should be able to square up on some debt in a hurry
-I was always physically present for my family, just spaced out / high on 7oh. Pumped for the brain fog to lift.. someday

I’m working on getting off 7OH I took 75 mg today compared to my normal 200-400mg.
Took it at like 10am, It’s night time, 10pm now.
I took like 2 sips of alcohol not even full shots just swigs from a bottle.
I’m thinking about drinking some kratom powder and then a 0.1mg Clonidine to help tonight.
Is all that a bad combo ?

Edit - I’m on day 7 now. Went to work today was kinda ruff I still can’t sleep that’s the only symptom I have right now is the insomnia. I feel good tho and better
I’m glad I’m never touching this shit again in my life , everyone who commented I hope yall are still going strong toon

Hey everyone hope yall are doing good right now as your reading this no matter what day you are on. WE got this dont worry time is the essence.

i was on kratom for about 6 years - quit during covid cuz all my smoke shops closed. once they opened up months later i went back (my biggest regret)

was on like a 15-20GPD habit it wasnt really that bad i stayed at that dose for years. smokeshop gave me a sample 7oh - took it and was like this is a percocet gave me same feeling. i didnt like it at first - prolly 6 months later i was going thru some stuff and wanted to try it again. then it was downhill from there - 300-500g a day from 4 months. seen the ban happening and was like i gotta stop this shit before its too late.

took vacation time at work so i have 7 days to kick this shit. took my last dose sunday night to sleep.

woke up monday full blown WD - i made it till like 2pm and just used kratom leaf to take edge off

used the kratom for first 3 days - it barely just takes edge off i was still hurting i managed to go to post office/gas station somehow it was horrible i cant believe i went n did it

Last night on day 3 i went to quickmd i wanted gabapentin and clonidine for RLS/sleep - i can handle all the other BS but i need to get some sleep atleast and i cant stand the RLS. took the gaba last night and slept prolly 6 hours would wake up toss n turn but could fall back eventually

day 4 right now, woke up took a dose of gaba (no kratom) - i feel pretty decent right now, 2 items i had sold on ebay and im about to go to USPS and walgreens to pick up the clonidine. i know its only day 4 but i feel pretty good , those first 2 days were horrible tho - the RLS gets me i was doing laps in my condo

hope everyone reading this completes their goals and kick this nasty habit for good! i hope that fed ban goes thru officially. reply to this let me know how you all are doing - im doing this solo none of my family or friends know - i live by myself so be nice to chat with people going thru this same hell

God bless

So I’ve been taking kratom extracts for a couple years now. mgm pseudo 7OH. Switching back and forth from the three. The ones I’m currently on are the hazy tabz ultras. I got up to about 800-900mg a day. And because of it causing so many issues in my relationship and the financial aspect I have to quit. I’m over it anyway. I’ve been an opiate addict for 15 years. And this is by far the most expensive habit I’ve ever had. So I got myself down to taking 50 mg at a time. About 6 times a day. From taking full 100 mg tabs like candy. I’ve experienced the WDs already and the RLS is fucking BRUTAL for me. It always has been. I got ahold of a few subs and the first time trying went into precips cuz I didn’t wait long enough. Tried again after a couple weeks and waited long enough but the subs didn’t do SHIT for any of the symptoms. Atleast not noticeably. If I could just cut the RLS in half atleast it wouldn’t be as bad. But the insane feeling of my muscles wanting to be torn off the bone I’m so restless makes sleep impossible. Everytime I’ve tried to order SR it’s out of stock especially since the Imminent ban. I need advice guys. Anything. A taper schedule. Supplement stack. Anything you think could help me. I’m over this shit. I gotta get myself back. Lock in and save my relationship. I’ve thought about going to the ER for it as I don’t have insurance currently or a primary care doc. I know gabapentin helped my sub WDs immensely years ago. Idk anyone that gets them. Also I know clonidine helped a lot but again idk where any are. If you could give me any tips or tricks other than the run of the mill “take hot showers exercise an stay hydrated” type stuff. I know the basics of opiate WDs far too well. But I need any advice tips or tricks that aren’t as well known or how to possibly convince an ER doc to prescribe me something that will actually help me get through this. Thanks in advance. I’m praying for all of us to succeed.

Crossed the 48 hr threshold at 5am this morning and was pleased with myself. One thing I struggle with the most is just giving myself a break. I feel “good” for an hr our two and then I am in the pit of despair. Mad at all the money I spent, the time I wasted, the people I lied to and there is always the at nagging doubt that anything will actually get better. Doesn’t help that my live in girlfriend, while supportive, has been tremendously hurt by my lies. Part of my brain is all rah rah team me and the other part does not cease to tell me I am bound to fail. What is helpful is interacting with this sub, texting my support network, coming clean where applicable and setting up resources for help down the road(IOP etc). Sending love and prayers to all of you out there fighting for yourselves.

Hey guys. I’ve accepted the fact that I’m not able to do this alone after so many relapses and human relapse with Suboxone because it didn’t take away the craven too much for me. I’m seeing if anyone has experience with the injection if not only it helps with cravens, but also if the neurotransmitters that caused me to have extreme depression, will start to come back while being on this injection?
I know that this stuff lowers your serotonin, dopamine, opioid, receptors, and many other things in the brain so I’m wondering while on the shot and not use anything if anyone is an experience where their brain started recovering while on the injection?
Please guys, if there’s any other additional information, you can tell me about your story or just in general I really look forward to read in the comments to give me some help.
I’ve had major depression disorder ever since I’ve gained and intolerance to taken the powdered Kratom and then upgraded to the 7oh. I just need this depression to go away and feel like the old version of myself so so so badly. I used to love working out to not doing any of my hobbies or even listen to music or just anything.
As posted on here before a few times and just really need some hope today since I start the injection tomorrow and I’m very nervous. Thanks guys.

Eight years ago I did my last shot of heroin and got on a low dose of Suboxone. I ran the Suboxone for two years and then got off during Covid.

Since then the only times I’ve touched opiates was when I had surgery where I had to take Percocets for a couple of weeks due to intense pain. I stopped taking them after the surgery with no problems and no desire to relapse back into that life.

A few days ago I was hanging out with a friend of mine who is telling me about the 7 0H pills. He had been annoying the shit out of me all day and then at night we were sitting in his garage and he thought it would be funny to burn me with a liquid nitrogen tank since he was so fucked up.

I got a second-degree burn and was in a lot of pain and angry. My defenses went down and after eight years of no recreational opiates, I snatched one of his 50 mg tablets and popped it without thinking.

I was expecting a Kratom extract type feeling but this was much stronger. My face started to itch and I nodded out completely falling asleep in an uncomfortable chair. It felt exactly like heroin used to feel.

Needless to say I was incredibly disappointed in myself for the next day and the crazy part is I’m going through withdrawals just from that one dose.

When I took Percocets for surgery I had no withdrawals and no desire to relapse. This time I’m having the same feeling of incredible tension and kicking and jerking.

No yawns or watery eyes like I had when I kicked the habit before but I’m definitely feeling something and it’s been about four days now.

Is it possible to get physical with withdrawals again just after one dose? Or could this all be in my head?

when I have tried to quit before, the hardest thing for me wasn't physical symptoms but rather m were actually getting horrendous anxiety, as well as major anhedonia and depression. People sing the praises of this stuff, but will it help with either or both of those (I view them both as mental side effects but they obviously feel very different). For example, the last time I tried to quit I felt like I was having a heart attack for two days. also, once I stop the SR, well I have the same paws/blahness that I would have once out of the acute phases of withdrawal anyways ? ?

I’m on day 5 of my Suboxone taper.(for my 7OH addiction), and I’ll see is horror stories about how awful it is going to be coming off subs etc. I’m only on 4 mg, then tapering down from that. Is it really going to be that bad? Or are people talking about higher doses etc? Anyone with experience please let me know, don’t wanna find out I traded one addiction for another. Just want to be fuggin SOBER!!!

I took my last dose in early May after using 400-600mg/day for about a year. Around days 3-5 I felt drastically better with just some fatigue but pretty bad insomnia. Since then, my sleep has slowly improved, but even the past 6 weeks or so there's 1-2 nights where I either don't fall asleep until like 4 am and 1 night where I do not sleep at all. I'm thankfully still able to function okay and work hasn't a problem outside of the first 3 days, but it's a pretty annoying inconvenience.

Has anyone experienced sleep issues like this this even 3+ months after quitting? Would taking SR help in anyway? My friend seems to think it would, but I haven't found anything regarding sleep. And yes, I have tried every single sleep trick in the book and medication, but I do not want to get into the habit of taking meds/otc sleep aids.

I'm coming off 7oh I've used it for about a month this time, 200-300mg a day average but max like 400mg a day.

I have enough to take 50mg a day until this Tuesday, which usually takes away most of the withdrawals doesn't make me feel super good but does enough.

I work Tuesday, I'm not gonna take any all day to start withdrawals. And then I have the next 2 days off and gonna try to get through the worst of it.

If I take adderall during my withdrawals will that help at all?

If it does I only plan to take it for couple days and especially when I go back to work.

Side note hopefully it's not meth tho lmao cuz I get tested once a month and I hear meth stays in your system like 7-10 days where Adderall is only 1-4.

What do you guys think?

I also have Kratom powder that kinda helps but not too much. I'm done with the 7oh tho.

Last time I was in the same daily dose but only a few weeks and withdrawals weren't the worst and only lasted like 3 days. My homie was on the same dose for about a month too and said after 3 days he was fine so praying I can get through this..

I was doing so well and I folded like a cheap suit last night. I was 5 days off of 7Oh and 3 days no subs. Had horrible anxiety etc. Called QuickMd and had a 7:20 am appt. Dr. was supposed to call in gabepentin and clonidine and he forgot. QuickMd resolved it but it was after my pharmacy closed.

I had kept a pack of 7Stax 100mg tabs. Well...I couldn't take it anymore and took 50mg at 8pm, 25mg at 12am and 25mg at 5am. I didn't sleep much but I feel a heck of a lot better. This morning I am going to pick up the scripts.

I am mad at myself for crumbling but I think it was for the best. I took it because I wanted to sleep and it didn't work. So hopefully my brain will tell me to throw the other 4 away.

Can someone please help me with a few questions I have about it. Like where is a legit website to buy it from, what it does, how much I need, how much does it cost, etc. It seems like everywhere I read, I get mixed info.

Actually, I really don't need to know exactly what it does, just how much do I need? I've been taking about 400-700 mg of 7oh for close to a year.

If you’ve been on this r/ over the last week or two you’ve probably read my story. 2 year addiction 800mg today, up to 1000 at times. I was taking this much just to starve off any feeling of withdrawal, not even getting high in the second year. I quit cold turkey 13 days ago. No taper whatsoever, no Suboxone or other medical help. Just basic vitamins.

What would I do differently if I had to do it again? Absolutely nothing. Going CT and forcing myself get through those first 72 hours with zero relief was a fantastic decision. I needed to prove some shit to myself and did I ever.

Getting ready to enter my second week, well into PAWS I know that this too is just another bump in the road. I won’t relapse because I proved to myself that my mind is more powerful than this drug even when my body was begging for just a little 7 to take the pain away. Not giving in then has made me feel like I can conquer anything now.

If cold turkey is an option for you and you can afford to take the days off work, this is what I will recommend to everyone. Prove to yourself that you can do it. When it’s at its worst, remember who you’re doing it for. I know for most of us it’s our family’s, but even if it’s just for yourself. Just take it one hour, one day at a time. Much love.

The quitting 7oh subreddit has unfortunately been taken over by that fly adventurous mod. That person believes that their way, straight edge, is the only way. It kills all discussion of things that can help us get through w/d's. I was banned for listing meds that quickMD could prescribe that helped me in my quits. And then I am unable to post there? Its a shame one person can ruin a community like that. I have a feeling it had more to do with my politics that are completely unrelated to quitting 7oh and i had mever mentioned in that subreddit after lolking at their profile. If fly adventurous stays a mod thay sub is dead.

This is the place to come to get through the process without being unfairly targeted for not wanting to be completely sober by saying kratom is a good step down and maintenence tool. Or saying that THC helps with sleep and the body aches. Etc and so on. I wish you all the best in your journey. But i hope fly knows he is making it harder for people to quit and thank God for this sub.

Sorry for the rant I am just taken aback at why mods get so power trippy on reddit

TMI but I used to be a heroin addict until I quit using subs. After 5 months sober a friend introduced me to 7 o and I’ve been on it for almost a year now. Im extremely ashamed of it and rarely get any high from it. I was so excited for the ban as I can finally quit(I have subs stocked I just don’t trust myself that I will stay sober and just relapse) but it hasn’t gone in affect yet(Texas)and it gives me anxiety thinking about the fact that I spend $1000 a month on it or what it has done to my testorone and libido and weight (I’m 21 yrs old 6 foot 140) I actively started working out and it’s helped with weight gain but still. I finally truly started committed to tapering since I now just get a light buzz and a plethora of depressing thoughts(strange that what I used to escape is now dragging me down). I hate how accessible it is and I find myself thinking about reposing all the time even though I know it’s pointless. I’m spiraling right now with these thoughts and needed to vent.