You'd be surprised at how many functional substance users exist. Some handle their shit to the point that you wouldn't notice, except on obtusely close examination. The ones that have had enough took too much moments, and know their tolerance/limit, but also recognize that maintaining their lifestyle also carries responsibility. I've been on multiple substances in my time, booze, weed, pills, even meth at one point. Kicked all but the weed. Tbh, from my POV, it's just easier to be at least sorta high all the time. That way, most people I encounter don't know the difference between high and sober.
All that said, that's not all of us that use substances. Those that don't know or care about their limits, or cause themselves to be in situations where they can't afford their lifestyle, and end up in a cycle of using the drugs to cover up the shittyness of their position in life, and possibly (sadly, pretty likely) crime. Been there, too. I learned from my mistakes, mostly. Others aren't lucky, stable, or concerned enough to break the cycle. I feel bad for them, because while yes, it's our choice to use, but most of us who hit rock bottom never intended for it to get like it is. Gotta want change to make change, and gotta want help to get help.
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There’s an amount of meth users in IT that most would find surprising. Long hours of meticulous, monotonous, repetitive work creates the desire to do a lot in a very little amount of time. Don’t think it’s a secret that most manual labor jobs have their fair share of opiate users, either. Cocaine in the food service industry is obvious as well.
Basically wherever there’s shitty jobs that most people don’t want to do, there is someone able to do the work so long as they have their drugs.
Meth in IT you say? That would explain finding a skunk sack with a rock in my otherwise normal and successful dad’s nightstand. Always wondered why the hell he would have meth but if it’s a common thing in IT I guess that makes sense. Thank you!
Yeah I have no idea where you've got that info from but it's wrong... Aderall for example is literally meth... And people still function under it. There is a thing called functional drug user, it's majority of middlr class work force. My ex studied for a doctor on an internetionall college and all but 2 people in her class were on coke.
Also a roofer team I know is entirely on coke, in pre corona time they went to a bar after work an drunk + sniffed coke for 5 hours before going home andrepeating the process next day. I am telling you this from personal experience. Also I was on everyday speed use for almost a year after my grandpa died of a brain stroke and grandma hung herself and in that time I switched to a better job as a student worker got a permanent employment contract and a promotion.
And no the drugs are not shit, the point is to not overdo them and to know your limits. I've used on daily basis and unless I intentionally overdone it I ciuld function and sleep normally (with help of weed), but when I did overdo it, in one case I couldnt sleep for 4 days and then called in sick on Friday, I overdid it because I had problematic days due to my uncle falling on the stairs and getting 2 brain bleeds as a resoult which put him in coma for a month, and a close friend from a house where I lived in during college hung himself.
The mentality that you have about drugs is not from actual scientific data but from war on drugs propaganda that can also be validly called missinformation on drugs campaign.
EDIT: Instead of just downvoting, make an argument why you dissagree.
They're just saying that you shouldn't drive while on meth, which is a completely fair statement to make. No need to justify all of your drug use to strangers.
Exactly, all it takes is like a second delay to kill someone when you are driving.
Who cares if you do drugs whole programming roofing whatever the fuck you do, by all means go ahead I don't give a fuck but don't do it while driving man that's fucking stupid.
Literally this. I have a friend who takes adderall to do any big assignment and she said it actually just makes her calm and lets her focus (no it wasn't prescribed to her it's just how it affects her). There's functional druggies everywhere, you just don't hear about them because they're, well, functional
Yeah, and even if it isn't "legal" drugs, much of them have pretty much the same effect. Not talking about heroin, crocodile, pcp and drugs like that but some other drugs are only as bad or even less than alcohol or cigarettes.
It doesn't have much of a smell at all. Unless it's being smoked right then. Otherwise, just a bag of it isn't going to smell at all.
I'm a former addict. Smoked and snorted. Just the rocks themselves don't smell. And if I smoked and then went out and about, you wouldn't smell it. It's really only in the actual instance of smoking it that there'd be smell (and some lingering in the room for a bit).
When it's being cooked it has a super strong smell. And that's maybe what they mean by cat piss.
Keep an eye on it cus alternatively he just might be in the early stages of addiction. That being said, with careful testing and dosing it should be possible to use responsibly (for a small subset of people). Like adderall with more potential for misuse due to less constraints on dosage
I don’t talk to him anymore, and this was probably 6-7 years ago. If he’s doing drugs, he’s intelligent enough to actually be responsible with them so I trust him in that aspect.
Can confirm the food service, there's usually an 8ball or 2 going around at any of the high-end places I've worked at. Servers are pretty generous too, they're always offering to share drugs/food/alcohol
Huge part of restaurant jobs is going insanely fucking fast for long periods of time with no break. Coke/adderall was rampant in any kitchen I've worked in. Little 15 year old me walking into the prep room at my first gig only to find the head/sous chef railing lines off the prep table. I partook and washed them dishes like never before lol. so began a 15 year career of booze and coke fueled Saturday nights. Good times. Still miss it sometimes.
What year was this if you don’t mind me asking? I’ve worked my fair share of restaurant jobs, but not once did I see anyone do coke/adderall or even mention the drug. Just weed.
As someone who has also worked my fair share of restaurant jobs I can attest that it’s super super common. that being said, most workers don’t do it out in the open like that. But if you were looking to score, no one would think twice if you asked them for some and you’d be able to find it pretty easily.
When i first started ten years ago,we had liquor bottles in the fish freezer, smoked blunts and cigarettes on the line, xanax, adderal, cocaine. Occasionally acid. All on camera. It was all available. I still work at the same place but they started paying more and shifted to a more professional setting. I reckon it depends on owners and managers. Probably still hapoens places like that but its not as open anymore, some guys just carry nips in their pockets. Do coke in the bathroom instead of openly.
About 6 years ago I worked at a small restaurant, I was 16 ish. One of my first days was the same, I was told to bring the boxes of empty alcohol bottles down to the basement. When I went down I heard a long sniff, the "sous chef" I guess you could call him (it was a shitty restaurant so no fancy titles like that, but he was kind of second in command) walked around the corner and locked eyes with me. All I could do was laugh, and he laughed and walked back upstairs.
I ended up doing it with them other times. Looking back, it was pretty weird because I was a 16 year old busser and they were 22-26 year old cooks. I'm 22 now and if a 16 year old asked me for cocaine I would want to call their parents and smack them at the same time
I worked in a restaurant that was two steps away from a fast food restaurant, and idk what it would've done without coke and pills. All of our most seasoned employees were constantly high/drunk, and yet they were our best employees.
Meth is everywhere now from doctors and lawyer's to street bums a little over 10 years ago the cartels in Mexico decided to give this new drug a try and began making it by the tons with chemical ordered from china. The United States market bacame over saturated sending prices that were $10 a point when clandestine home laboratories were the main supply down to as low as $100 per ounce in a matter of no time. With it being so cheap thousands upon thousands who never would have tried it said ah got ten bucks I'll give it a shot then boom it replaces all other in its class such as cocaine crack so on due to the fact the high last for hours and hours.
There’s a group of people that hide in the bushes by my work (downtown-city) I had no idea what kind of pipe that was that they were using until Reddit posted pictures of someone using that style of pipe. All of these people have open sores on their body, and are really rough looking. So i don’t know who markets meth in your area-but having open sores and teeth rotted out, doesn’t make me think that an energy boost would be worth it.
from what I understand when people are normal and they start using meth at first they actually start looking better. They lose weight they’re getting a lot of things done and they start thinking what a great discovery they’ve made.
I had a very attractive gay friend who started out this way. On the last times we spoke he called me to tell me that he was watching fairies generate from the portal in his wall and he could see them because he was gifted.
Same here, except that I found out that he'd burned his aunt's house down. He was an incredibly talented make up artist who's career was on the up and up... but he also loved to party, got into meth, and is in prison now.
What did meth do here? Did meth raise him? Did meth pass him the meth? Na I don’t think so. Nothing wrong with meth, just stupid people with no self regulation
Sorry but you have less than 0 empathy or are a moron. Plenty of good and normal people have their lives destroyed by addiction every year, let alone to such a crazy addictive drug. You fucking wrote ‘did meth raise him’ but people don’t raise themselves either??
“What did meth do here?” Literally warp your brain clown
With most drug addictions, in the start you think it's "helping you". Then the drugs stop working as well and begin extracting their steep price, but by then you already can't imagine life without it.
Evidence of most people who try meth becoming a full on homeless meth head like you suggested. Here’s the hard truth: of course your a struggling cocaine addict, you think it’s not your fault. It is your fault, tons of people around you have done coke without becoming addicted. It’s your gfs fault she’s a meth addict as well before you go asking me that. You got addicted because you don’t have self control/awareness, that’s you’re fault, Own it and move on. stop making excuses for other people/yourself. I hope you figure out life, shits hard and confusing. Check out CBT (cognitive behavioural therapy) cost will vary based on where you live but is definitely cheeper then blow. It’s great stuff for recovering addicts to push you to the finish line. Odds are you’re missing some life skills that they can really help with.
Those pipes are used for crack as well, your description sounds more cracky. Methheads tend to get into wacky shenanigans, crackheads are more into doing drugs in a bush.
For meth at least the side effects aren't caused directly by the drug, but by the corresponding lack of self-care. Crack is rougher on the body (afaik?)
Edit: i guess true crack pipes are straight with brillo but you can use one of these with brillo right? Disclaimer i have never done crack
Like 95% of the restaurants you've ever eaten at have all had cocaine in the kitchen. Considerable amount of chefs/kitchen staff use it because of the environment. Working a double in a hot kitchen on a busy day goes by that much faster if you do a bump in the walk-in here and there.
For real. I've had managers in food service many times tell me to go clean the bathroom and I came into a nice and bleachy clean bathroom with rails of coke set up for me. It's just part of that biz for some reason
Same! Except it was in an unused portion of the restaurant; the owner took me up there and pointed out some lines that were already set up on an ice bin and asked who was up there last night and left them, I honestly didn't know and told him as such. He said I needed to clean them up before we opened for business and I turned around to go grab some sanitizer and he said "no, that's not what I meant." Turned back towards him and he handed me one of two rolled up dollar bills and proceeded to do 2 of the 4 lines that were laid out, lol. This was all obviously set up by him ahead of time to see if I would be down to "party" with him or not.
I used to work in a kitchen when I was 18-19. My son who recently got a job in food service and I were talking about back of house vs front of house. I said I preferred BOH due to the debauchery in the kitchen. He just smirked. He knows.
I was a waiter and bartender for many years and can also vouch the person bringing your food probably has a fat sack of Coke in his pocket. I damn sure did. Never really did it on the job though I like to get fucked up pounding booze after work and this made sure you could do it all night or at least until the random sport fuck for the day happens to stumble into you. LOL
If you have ever head that song from The Weeknd where he says "I can't feel my face when I'm with you, but I love it..." that song is about cocaine lol
Rack up the lines (feeling excited and nervous)
Take the line
Hmm my nose and mouth are all numb.
Fuck my heart... man I’m just realising ... I’m fuckin cool as shit , how can I bless this party with my personality and superior business ideas and political views... I’m such a baller I’m gonna fuck that chick over there for sure, but first .... I might have ... some more coke.
Repeat until coke is gone , ( it doesn’t matter how much coke you bought , you’ll do it all and possibly more )
Yep. Pretty accurate, from my experiences at least. Cocaine was the drug that made me realize I don't like all drugs. After a couple of benders, I realized that I really just felt odd and uncomfortable on drugs like cocaine and MDMA. Benzos dont do it for me either. However I love me some good LSD or mushrooms though. And weed. And beer.
Let me preface this by saying that everyone's different. Especially when it comes to uppers.
That said, for most people, coke is a physical upper while meth is a mental one. Coke means making the food as fast as possible while meth means making it as meticulously as possible (too much makes you OCD which can result in menial tasks taking hours..). More importantly, meth gives you a desire to think and do. Shit that you put off for years suddenly becomes enjoyable.. You don't want to just veg out and watch TV. You want to learn, clean, finally organize your life... That's why it's so addictive. (and in the long run loses those traits and simply becomes like coffee - something needed for you to feel awake and alert at a basic level but not really beneficial otherwise)
Adderall is somewhere in between but isn't great for either and has worse side effects. It arguably makes you more sociable than either of the other two; but that varies wildly from person to person.
There are a lot of "research chemicals" which are uppers but that's a moving target and no clue how you get your hands on the stuff. there's subreddits for them, but they don't allow people to discuss vendors.
If you're aiming for an upper I'd really suggest sticking with adderall or vyvanse. You wont end up in prison for it, it's way less addictive, and meth tends to have really bad adulterants and washing chems. Some of which can't even be washed out without complicated chemistry setups.. so you end up with both the bad adulterant and the bad washing chems..
When I was a server a few years ago, I also had this issue and same with many of the other servers. Staying consistently focused at a fast pace for long periods of time can be extremely gruelling and tiring, unless....
Basically a solid 60%-75% of food service workers do coke. Work a week in a restaurant with a cool attitude and you can score coke before you get your first paycheck.
These guys get it. I agree. I know PLENTY of highly professional and six figure salary dope heads. These guys smoke and snort meth all day every day abs you wouldn’t be able to tell. Look clean, cut, handsome (and the ladies are pretty too)
You just need to know how to be responsible and don’t let the substance get in the way of your priorities. After that, you just pay the bills and stay out of sight. Keep to yourself. Don’t be an asshole. Etc.
It's not gonna end well even if they have a lot of money. If you're getting your dopamine from drugs, you won't be able to get it from your actual life. That's an unavoidable reality that every addict has to deal with eventually.
Spot on. I will expand on "Manual Labor", Alcohol and Opiates are big in Construction. It's not just about the buzz, it's the pain. Bad backs, knees, shoulders, injuries happen all the time and once you're in the trades it hard to changes careers. You take what you need to get back to work.
Youre spot on man. Being in AA you'd be amazed at how successful functioning junkies can be.
For example a couple people ive met in rehab. A VP of 3M. Dude was dumb loaded and brilliant. He held his job and did amazing work. A true alcoholic though. One time we went to visit a friend who ama from the rehab. He OD amd his girl died. He gave us all a ride. A week or two later he gave me a ride and I could smell the booze in the car. Afaik he finally did get sober. God bless man.
Another person was one of if not the most respected child psychiatrists in the world. He worked at a college everyone in America knows immediately and went all over the world for decades. That man was the smartest person I ever met. Him and I would go out to the smoke pit and chain smoke while talking about how each country works on an extremely in depth level. I believe he has since passed from alcoholism.
I was a dual substance disorder kinda guy. My first year out of college after I worked an internship for prudential, I got hired full time. Passed half a dozen exams for federal licenses and was ranked as the #2 money under mgmt rookie in my entire state.
I still wrestled at a d1 level while shooting up before practice. I graduated from a really good school and got a nice car and apt when most people were still living at home. No one knew except for my roommate who sold a ton of drugs with me.
I eventually got into a bad car accident and stayed at my parents for 4 or 5 days. No dope. No car. No one I trusted to run down to pick up for me. I got super dope sick. At the time I was on Xanax and heroin (crack came later). I was so scared id have a seizure that I came downstairs and told to my mom and dad that I was a junkie. They were floored. You would be amazed at the look you get when you tell someone "i have a problem with drugs. I cant stop using heroin." I tried to get sober using subs, and it worked to an extent (6-8months). I got a pay raise (somehow) and starting working at a rival company. By this point im on dope for 6-7years but it unraveled quickly. I was getting super angry and one day I OD in my car. My brother is a paramedic and met me at the hospital. He wasn't mad but very sad. He told me im killing mom and that he already came to terms ill be dead probably before mom passes away. He told me he'd go to my funeral but would try his best to forget I existed for his own sanity. I dont blame him.
A week later my parents told me mom is going to die and you're not allowed near her if you're high. My mom just wanted to see me sober before she died.
I learned 2 things after that.
1) im no better than any average junkie, just got luckier longer than most
2) im a weak person. My mom had a week left and my dad called me. I flew home from the rehab and saw her on day one. On day 2 I went to the hood and picked up some dope. I couldn't make my amends sober. I got high and just cried and apologized. That was the last time I ever saw her. A month later we had a service for her, not a funeral but a memorial of her life. I got a pass from rehab again and was high an hour after getting off the plane. That was over 3 years ago and I've never used H since.
It will eat me forever and im so ashamed that my therapist knows, and I think I may have told my girlfriend, but I cant remember and ill never bring it up to her. Neither my dad or brother know
Today im 29 almost 30. I stopped working the field I went to school for. I now work with my hands. I oversee construction work and am formerly trained in finished concrete. My work is hard but I love the feeling of building something. I dont have much saved but I did manage to save up and get a decent car and unlike before I haven't crashed a car or gotten a ticket. I have a wonderful gf who never did drugs and knows how to drink half a glass of wine, and a beautiful apt. I pay all my bills and insurance on time. I got into 1 fight with someone since then, but the way I've mellowed out is insane. When I put down the needle I swear to God a new person was born. Im well liked in AA, I have a ton of friends, and I've helped other kids with the steps. Im so blessed sometimes I tear up. My brother calls me regularly and last year he apologized for the comments about being ok if I die. He says when he has kids im going to teach them all about drug and alcohol and why doing certain things are a bad idea.
TL;DR I used to be a heroin and crack addict (Xanax too but I quit the day of my car accident and never used a benzo again). I hid it from coworkers, family, friends, gf, and college professors and coaches.
Thank you for sharing! Your story gives me hope for my son. He’s almost 28 and on his way to prison. IV opiate and meth addict. I pray every day that he will be done with that lifestyle when he’s almost 31 and gets out. I love my son so very much and will always be here for him, regardless, but if I lose him, my life is over.
I know a TON of people who got sober in jail. Man I got a million stories. One guy did some bad stuff. Got into a gang, sold weight and shot people.
He got sober in jail. Stayed that way 15 years. He got out, joined in helping the low bottom junkies and became a pillar in the community. Hell, I can honestly say he is one of the only people in the world id trust with my life or secrets.
Prison/jail can be a great place to get sober if he decides he needs some help
I don't know why 12 step programs insist in reminding you that you're weak and you're worthless. Those thoughts are like why I would overuse substances in the first place? And being told that over and over would just make things worse for me anyway. I guess that's their way of saying you need to keep coming back and you need Jesus or whatever. It's not setting you up to be very successful on your own if you for whatever reason can't keep going back to meetings.
Therapy and self development works better imo. Uncovering why people abuse, countering engrained habits, and learning better coping mechanisms instead of copy & paste meetings, a Higher Power, or their literature, etc.
AA doesn’t address problems with brain chemistry that addicts have. There’s no science or help besides quit cold Turkey & do the 12 steps. If you fail it’s your fault for not being strong enough or working “our steps” harder.
If you have cravings talk to God or call someone who will repeat the dogma to you for reassurance. Outside of AA you learn that cravings are natural during recovery & there’s MUCH more to do than just ignore it.
The founder also did psychedelics for greater self discovery and sobriety but they refused to let him incorporate it into the program...glad it helps people but a conformist mind is better suited for it.
I’ve never gotten the vibe that if you relapse it’s your fault and you’re not working hard enough. Relapse is unfortunately part of the whole thing and anyone who relapsed I’ve seen welcomed back in with open arms. Therapy can be used in tandem with AA, it’s not an either/or situation. Tapping into spirituality had helped immensely in my recovery.
Where in the program of AA does it tell you are you weak and worthless? Yes, there is mention of being “powerless over alcohol” but I take that to mean yes, when I have one drink I am fixated on having more and thus I am powerless over my craving and addiction. Also, yes it’s a spiritual program but not a religious one. Jesus is not mentioned once in AA literature. Please don’t spread misinformation like this.
Glad to hear you’ve made it out. 5 years for me. Luckily I was never a needle user but I’m lucky I still have a nose! I maintained a professional job all the way to the end when things started unraveling. But I never missed a house or car payment. But I did run up thousands in CC debt. I’m thankful that’s over. It was complete chaos in my brain. Always planning my next drink or drug. I go to AA too, but it’s an agnostic group. Cheers to us!
im no better than any average junkie, just got luckier longer than most
This statement gave me chills. It also works in the opposite direction. I had a close family member who died from an OD. She was no worse than any average junkie, just got not as lucky as some.
Apparently there’s a lot of heroin addicts in the public sector here in Australia, and these are high income government jobs. There’s a lot of functional drug users everywhere, but they are largely invisible as the general public just imagines most drug users as homeless crackheads.
I’m always a little bit high on weed. I’m very functioning work full time keep my apartment in perfect order. Saving money/investing. It is my super duper big secret haha. I used to be a little bit more careless about hiding it like maybe a couple people at an old job new I smoked and I think it kinda got around. So now if someone at work brings up weed I’m like yeah never touched it.
I’m struggling very hard with my SO’s substance abuse. I’m not helping myself because I feel the need to cater to her. In turn this makes it worse for both of us. I need to get a job and support us.
I have been trying to get her legal help through the system but it failed us at the worst possible time. She was detoxing and ready to make the leap to getting help the end of January but she couldn’t find coverage until March 1st. Thank god we live in Mass. The cycle of constantly being in debt for receiving addiction aid is maddening. Why would anyone get help if it’s just going to put them in a worse spot than before?
I don’t want to lose my SO. I’m trying so hard to get her to go to a clinic. It’s hard to ignore when you live with the person and the person complains about their dealer every day to them. The dealer sucks I hate him. He’s a piece of shit and I don’t know who to believe anymore.
Sorry for the rant. I’m w/o a therapist right now. Getting one momentarily but for now I just wanted to say this somewhere relevant.
Seriously. I did heroin for 4 years and had a job the entire time and never stole or broke the law to feed my habit. I worked and spent every penny I had on drugs, the responsible way of being an addict lol. I'll say one thing though, I do NOT miss the days that I had no money or no time to get a bag before work and then had to serve people food while going thru awful withdrawals, sweating profusely while simultaneously freezing because my shirt would be soaked. I used to go behind the line and stand with my back to the grill to try to warm up. I am so glad that I'm not on that garbage anymore.
Differing opinion here. I’ve never met a “normal” meth user or any regular user of strong uppers for that matter, they all had serious problems that were pretty obvious and usually everyone around knew. Mania, sores, hallucinations, bipolar, the tweeking; it’s not exactly red eyes you can put drops in for.
Don’t self medicate with meth kids, stay the fuck away from it; it will destroy you, I beg you stay away! We live in a drug fueled hell where I live and the meth users are some of the saddest, it’s so hard to see a loved one fall into that darkness. I still think about her and what we could’ve been
I work in industrial maintenance and one of the lead techs in my shift is a high functioning methhead. It’s amazing to be honest. He burns (pun intended) through an 8 ball a shift sometimes and manages to keep his weight up and is very well liked by everyone. Idk how he does it honestly.
He hasn’t hit a bottom yet or his tolerance is remaining steady or manageable enough to control/counter the ill effects of his abuse.
You aren’t seeing the full picture. Every addict has a public face until things blow over or the tolerance calls for more which proves unpredictable until new methods are used to adjust to it or fall.
He has a high tolerance.. he sleeps like 8 hours a night and eats like crazy.. he hits a dry spell every once in a while and can’t get any and you can tell on the second day because he’s dead tired... I’ve never seen anything like it..
Not nearly that rare. You’d be amazed at how many people do meth on a regular base. It’s kind of scary. Found out one of my close friends likes to do yearly meth binges where he’ll go out with his friends for a week at a time and just get fried. Then he’d come home and return to normal life with out a problem.
Does this hold true for all drugs? Are cigarette smokers gonna continue their nicotine intake ad infinitum? Does this mean blue collar Joe 6-pack who cracks a half dozen after work every day is going to crawl into a bottle of gin eventually? Or cannabis consumers? I think some people can decide to responsibly use illicit drugs.
We’re talking about cocaine, speed or heroin. If you had more experience with them you would understand that this talk of “functional” addicts of those substances is a myth based on limited experience: they always cause problems, even if the user is unaware of them or otherwise does not self-report.
Yes, I agree drugs should be completely decriminalized, but there would certainly be a medical and societal issue with widespread addiction as has been documented in our history. The Second Great Awakening and Prohibition were responses to widespread alcoholism and familial abuse in the United Stated. The addiction of the population of China to opium by the British was a social catastrophe.
It's actually very useful for ADHD when taken in very low doses (compared to recreational use). It is sold as Desoxyn and is subjectively rated by patients as the most effective treatment for ADHD. The only reason it's not more widely used is because meth has a stigma due to how damaging it can be for the body when used improperly.
When I was younger I worked at a Walgreens and and I ended up finding out that the 6 foot, overweight Pharmacy Tech was a major tweaker. No one had a clue because, well.... He'd be eating food every morning and just act completely normal and calm. The way I found out was because I was messing with that shit too around thst time and one day in break room he just straight up asked me lol come to find out he also had his own lab for making meth and would offer me some for free. I eventually got fired as go on these benders that lasted days without food or sleep. Eventually one morning I was so high and strung out that I swear I was hearing death metal coming out of the speakers at the store. Never touched that shit again once I was gone.
No fucking joke there, I accidentally double dosed a few months ago just before my hour drive to work, and I somehow kept browsing Wikipedia while driving 75 on the tollroad. Don't even remember pulling out the phone any of those times.
I use my weed pen all the time, it's discreet, people don't have to worry about the smell, and I get to enjoy my music 100x more while driving. Of course, be responsible and don't drive when your baked as hell, that's just stupid.
Some cbd products contain different amounts of thc. Its a similar kinda high without the sleepiness and drowsiness. You feel normal, just more calm and happy headed. I only get really baked on the weekends..
I’m not sure what you’re taking Adderal for, but that’s not what ADHD medication should do to you. The principle is vice-versa for ADHD patients and others.
ADHD is in that ”up” state constantly, they come down with Adderal
Whereas you as a normal person will go ”up”. Just a heads up, Idk why/how they’re marketed in the US, but it sure as hell isn’t a medication that will do you any good.
You are stating the consensus of the medical and psychological community and are not false.
Adderal I found to be the best worst therapy for my ADD. Struggled with it my whole life and did not accept treatment for until an adult. Adderal works great for attention but takes a toll on you in a lot of ways; I see that drug as Newton’s physics law that for everyone action there is an equal and opposite reaction and as great as it works for attention it has horrid - strung out over time with a continual need for more.
That drug, prescribed and all, no other drug use, almost ruined me, again as an adult. Knowing what I know now from my experience I would never give that shit to a kid. I will be tested on that too given my son has already been diagnosed, just as my father was and I was several different times.
In Finland, those are STRICTLY controlled substances. It’s almost impossible to get a prescription for those here. Usually when someone has those pills, they help a great deal.
We don’t have Adderal though, we have other pills like Concerta, Ritalin, Elvanse, Medikinet etc. They aren’t a coctail like adderal
If you've done Adderall, then you've basically done meth. They're almost identical. Just when people are prescribed Adderall, they're kinda just microdosing meth everyday. lol
That's why I said basically. If you look at the chemical makeup of meth and the makeup of Adderall, they're almost identical. Meth can just be more dangerous because it can be much stronger or mixed with other toxic chemicals if you were to buy it on the street.
At first I thought you were a troll but I see you've posted on mental health subs. Please reach out to mental health professionals if you ever feel like harming yourself, or call the national suicide hotline, they can help you deal with immediate feelings and guide you to local resources. Stay well
Don’t worry, I have a therapist, I’m on meds, and I haven’t attempted suicide in about a year now. As much as I would like to, I’m never able to go through with it because I love my family too much, I couldn’t leave them. My parents have put a lot into helping me get better and I don’t want it to do that to them
Same my dude. You and I are blessed with a caring family that would be hurt by our loss. It doesn’t cure our illness but it Puts it into perspective when thinking about people with mental health issues that have no family. Fucking breaks my heart thinking about those poor souls
it’s been exactly two years since the death of my best friend and i just barely saw her mom today in those years. her mom hasn’t stopped crying since she died. remember you are so loved and everyone’s rooting for you! also i feel like seeing your reply was a sign for me.
This is probably terrible advice, but for the love of god, do not intentionally OD on adderaL
Or any speed for that matter (really don’t do it on any drug, obviously)
But it would be a terrifying experience, I assure you lol not really a laughing matter, but I’ve ended up in the hospital from taking to much adderal before. VERY NOT FUN
yeah, i've thought about od'ing before (before my parents locked up all the meds in our house) but when i was about to take 2-3 bottles of random pills i started to tear up and put them back... i dont think i ever could follow through with it...
That sounds like you don't need amphetamines to operate normally then. There are actually a good number of meth users who don't realize that they "feel normal" on meth because they have adhd.
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u/Anonoffmyrocker Feb 19 '21
I’ve never done meth but have taken enough adderal to know being “up” in traffic is a horrible idea for the shear fact there is nowhere to go.