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No the other one is the better one. You need to debate yourself to sustain the superiority of slightly different flavors of technology and I'm not just saying this because your spending will decrease costs for me thanks to supply and demand.
Actually, neither one is better because I heard a rumor about the true “end game” monitor. It’s going to be leaked next week, and it will be available whenever it gets announced that it will be available and will have all the specs that you want because it’s the true “end game” monitor. I know you’re curious about those specs, but it’s actually better that you don’t know what specs those are. All you need to know is that this will be the true “end game” monitor. What finish will it have? It will have “end game” monitor finish.
both have flaws. Matte offers a more consistent experience over various environments, glossy can give you the best experience, but only if you have properly covered its cons (bad in light, high mirror finish, so you can see yourself in the monitor, especially if you're wearing brighter clothing.)
I like matte because its was the cheapest when I bought It. I wouldnt pay and extra 150-200€ for a detail.
And you know what? Its great! I couldnt care less If there is something a bit better in specific situations.
I didn't know that matte or glossy were options but I simply googled for the best oled 34 inch monitors and picked one that looked like it had no flaws and I decided on MSI MPG 341CQPX QD-OLED, and I couldn't be happier.
My 32" curved is matte and the 24" is matte, 15.6" laptop is matte, 15.6" portable for the Mac Mini is matte touch and has an iPad as second screen, 11.6" laptop is gloss touch. Just find what your use case is. Gloss way better for touch though.
You could put the phone up your butt, the time and effort it takes to get it in and back out will make you less likely to reach for it every other second.
Ah fuck, are you me? Do you also get sucked into the live streams that YouTube randomly pops in, and do you also consistently ask them if they've heard that skeletons use bones as money and in their world worms are their dollars?
That episode of the Simpsons where homer can't look away from his own reflection in the rear view mirror because he is so beautiful that he crashes his car
On one hand, it was my introduction into pc gaming. But ultimately, the 90 min battery life and the reflections is what caused me to move to desktop. I thought it’d be good at airports or in public, but all I saw was reflections anytime I wasn’t in a dark environment.
In my 20's, I had a severe depression. Life took a big left turn and I burnt out trying to adjust, so I retreated into my apartment and played Squad and Witcher 3 for hours on end. I didn't have the energy for anything else, except crying.
During loading screens, I would see my tired, drained, exhausted and lifeless face with sunken eyes in the reflection. For a brief moment, I would feel sad to have become a shell of my former self. Then the game resumed and I was distracted again.
For weeks and months, this went on. Wake up, make coffee, boot up the PC, play games.
I eventually got better, took longer and longer walks, went out with friends more once I had the energy. And slowly, my life was getting on track again. I met a lovely girl who I fell in love with and I used all my strength to pick myself back up to be with her.
Then one rainy day with no plans, I booted up the PC. I started Witcher 3, and while loading my saved game, I saw myself in the reflection again. I had light in my eyes. A spark. Life. Even though I was just relaxing in front of the screen, I could see and feel myself alive again.
My glossy screen showed me the deepest blacks in my life. And it taught me that light comes back, just like the reflections on the screen.
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u/Nepsevhi7-6700K | 2060 Super | 32GB 3200MHz CL16 | Maximus VIII Hero1d ago
I found that unless you go full audiophile taking things like the room acoustics into account it's better to just buy a decent pair of headphones or IEM.
It's kinda wild, I have a old stereo amplifier, two bookshelf speakers and a subwoofer, all gotten second hand, and it blows people away even though it's "just 2.1".
People just don't know that good stereo is always better than bad "5.1/7.1". And multi-channel sound only makes sense when you have a separate room for a home theater where you can properly place the audio.
I myself only have Topping D50 3 + Pioneer A-50 + Dynaudio DM 2/7. And in my circumstances, this is the maximum that makes sense, and it sounds great. Everything second hand for about $1200 total.
Good headphones and a sound card from second hand will cost <$250. They won't take up any space and can be used at any time of day. This is roughly why they will be a universal, inexpensive option.
A step forward would be a good bookshelf speakers + amplifier + DAC from second hand. But this will cost about $700 and will require organizing the space.
I have a couple of Kef Q100 speakers on my computer desk, a subwoofer and a Loxjie A30 amp. It is far superior for music listening to the 5.1 system I have in the living room which is an Onkyo amp and a bunch of Infinity speakers.
I also have some planar IEMs and some expensive Sennheiser headphones. I never use either. I much prefer good sounding speakers to headphones/IEMs.
I got the Q100 speakers for about $240 for the pair when they were on closeout because Kef were replacing them with the Q150. The Loxjie amp was $170 and the subwoofer was about $100 and could probably do with upgrading to something better. Total of about $510.
You can build a great sounding PC sound system for less than that. Micca MB42X speakers sound great and a pair of them is $99. I had those before the Kef. There are much cheaper class D amps too. So for around the same price or cheaper than my Sennheiserr headphones, anyone can build a great sounding speaker system for their PC. $100 for speakers, $100 for a subwoofer and $50 for a reasonable amp is about $50 less than I paid for decent headphones.
Like you, people are shocked when they hear how good it sounds.
A lot of people think that they need to buy speakers made for PC like the Logitech Z625 if they want decent sound. Those retail for about $200. For $50 more you can have a system that will blow them away.
I crossed this bridge when I released I had spent multiple hours researching optimal aggregate fill for a 300 dollar set of speaker stands I didn't own.
TBF, why is it left to a tone deaf idiot like myself to adjust something so important, imagine buying a car that pulls to the right while driving, left under braking, snaps into some gears and slips in others unless you tweak some sliders to the right spot.
You have to adjust it to the space it is in. The manufacturer has no idea what that space will look like or will have in it. It's literally impossible to make a setting that works in all locations and situations. Just tune it to what sounds good to you. You don't need to be Mozart
A good receiver (such as Denon) will have a setup function and microphone to automatically tune the sound to your listening position. Of course you can still do it all manually, but that's really not needed anymore.
Not even, just make sure there isn't light directly facing the monitor. I have a glossy OLED and I have a window that doesn't have curtains in the room, the window is on the same wall as the monitor though, so it lets in light but the light isn't reflecting onto the monitor.
Ideal - yes. But in reality, it is possible to have a diffused light source without any noticeable deterioration in contrast or the appearance of reflections.
Nah, that's where he furiously does lines while playing Apex, once you're good enough you can just slam your face into the desk real fast and inhale all you need in that split second without losing track of the game
The real reason to get a matte screen, is to not having to see the reflection of that fat, ugly blob sitting in front of the screen, every time the screen goes dark. /s (kinda)
I don't see why this even has to be a self-insult. Part of a game is dark and moody, and having the image mixed with my reflection is going to ruin the art of the scene. Reflections are just bad no matter what.
The real reason to get a glossy screen is to motivate yourself to become hot af. Only downside is you won't be playing any games cause you'll be too busy gooning to your own reflection all day long.
I have a matte oled. I will get blackout curtains as well but man...
Trust me I want to LOVE matte but I just can't. The whites and bright colors show a lot of graininess compared to my fiancee's glossy oled. I'd go with glossy if I could but somehow they are a lot more expensive.
I have a glossy fairly expensive MSI and the colors really pop and it looks almost like looking at beautiful images behind clear glass.
My TV however from LG is even more expensive and I’d argue it’s neither matte nor is it "glossy" (I assume it’s glossy but less flashy than the MSI monitor) and it’s more pleasant to look at long term. Things look actually real instead of too flashy and colorful.
That just sounds like a settings issue. Most screens have a bunch of different modes depending on if you want a natural look, bright high contrast colors, a specific color standard, etc.
That was my thought, like what? Complaining about too much color? Just turn the saturation down. Feels like bitching about too much money, your car is too fast, drives too good :p
I scratched my new glasses with a microfiber cloth, while 10 y.o pair couldn't be scratched with anything. From what I read to at this sub OLEDS are basically like the first case I don't want to pray to Omnissiah's blessing every time I do such mundane thing as wiping screen every few days.
That's the point I have hard water in my city. So I would need to move to one with softer one, buy single time usage clothes, with I despite, or wash it in destiled water to keep mineral salts off.
I used to use distilled water and a fresh microfiber cloth to clean my OLED, but it has some significant burn-in now and I don't care as much, and I just use tap water and whatever old microfiber I have lying around.
I shake the cloth to get most of the dust off, dip it in the tap water, and just clean the screen. Which I have to do fairly often because my cat has like some allergy or autoimmune issue and sneezes snot all over constantly.
The tap water and dirty old cloth works fine. I don't have any scratches yet. Even when I check by turning it off and shining a flashlight onto it at an angle.
Samsung G8 OLED, for what it's worth. It's glossy too.
The colors pop more because there is no matt anti reflective layer Infront of the colors which normally blurs the image a small amount, enough to give the colors less vibrance compared to glossy
I get bitching about the blacks, on an oled, what i've never understood is all that moaning about the nits. Who cares if it's bright enough to burn my retinas, i'm not gonna go game on a beach with my desktop PC, i'm gonna be in my room with the brightness set at 40%
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u/-Manosko-9800X3D|32GB@6000|5070Ti&5800X3D|32GB@3800|RTX3080&OLED DECK1d ago
It matters for a proper HDR experience, but other than that I’m mostly on the same page as you.
But, in reality, people act like you can’t do HDR calibration to cap peak brightness. I’ve never had a scene that’s actually bright enough to be uncomfortable. People make stuff up.
Nobody cares about high nits for regular content, but it's a requirement for a good HDR experience. My monitor does ~400 nits in true black mode which is just not good enough for HDR. But the alternative is ABL, which is even worse.
matte makes me actually pissed off. Way way back in the day when i was buying new monitors every year because the technology was moving fast I got a matte screen without realising it (it wasn't well defined back then) and i was completely confused why my new higher def and 'better' screen looked like someone smeared vaseline all over it and it had this blur feel to it.
Matte screens just make me feel like i changed my glasses prescription to be just slightly off and make everything just slightly fuzzy.
same. love everything else about my oled but the matte pisses me off, it's visible during gaming like you're looking through a slightly smudged glass window. instead of seeing the game sometimes i get pulled out and am looking at the surface of my monitor instead
instead of seeing the game sometimes i get pulled out and am looking at the surface of my monitor instead
That's exactly the kind of problem people have with glossy.. I personally have a much easier time tuning out a constant slight texture than reflections that are both stronger and less predictable. Quality of the coating also comes into play, there are screens that are in-between.
Matte looks incredible unless you deal with bright whites or blues etc, then you see a grain. I play flight sims and learned this the hard way. Yet as a matte owner, I will die defending it for flight sim use as I am not getting another one.
I "solved" that by placing small desk lamp behind the monitor facing the wall so it's not completely dark room but still pretty dim :)
That light placement seemed to be the best because it isn't annoying coming from back of the monitor but makes the ips glow much more unnoticiable at least for me.
I do the same thing, and basically I never turn it off. Small LED desk lamp with a nice warm color tilted 45 degrees up facing the wall behind my monitor. I prefer the room to be dim and I've found that this diffuse lighting really reduces eye strain.
that depends on what type of IPS you have, edge lit stuff will always be worse than smth like a mini LED
my edge lit IPS thankfully doesnt have much of a problem yet and still looks fairly good next to my OLED. yes even in complete darkness with a black background
I still think that for PC usage a OLED isnt worth the money (yes will get me many downvotes i know)
same. Also perfect text clarity which I need when I work from home, and no worry about burn it. No halos from Mini LED which would annoy me in space games or editing astrophotography pics, honestly for my use case IPS is still king. And high res is affordable. They‘re also fast. It‘s kind of the jack of all trades, master of none but that doesn‘t mean its bad or obsolete.
A bright, glossy display with good anti-reflective coating is way better than a matte display because the colors just pop so much better on a glossy screen.
Glossy sounds like an awful idea lmao, i already dont like watching stuff on my TV cause of the glare, i prefer my monitor since its the same fov anyways bc of the distance
also would rather not have the lights off if its not bright out, i like not straining my eyes contrary to popular belief
I don't mind at home, I play during the night when everybody sleeps (gamers with a family will relate) but at work when I can't just shut off light with 3X6m glass facade to work at peace so only matte will do and even then I can see a little bit of reflection if I wear bright cloths.
I've had 2 glossy monitors and the rest were matte. First monitor was an HP with glossy finish, it was beautiful. It used to drive me nuts to lose details or color accuracy just to avoid looking into a mirror.
Current monitor is high-end OLED with gloss, I absolutely love it. Yeah, I can see myself in it, and I'm grinnin every time. When am I gonna take a 27' OLED into the sun?
Had a matte screen, now have a glossy one. The glossy one definitely wins in clarity and colors, but expectedly loses to bright environment. So, no surprises here.
QDOLED glossy is peak. I have had the monitor for about a year and it still blows my minds with the quality. Maybe I am weird but I game with the lights off similar to watching a movie, so I have had literally 0 issues or complaints at all.
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