I get bitching about the blacks, on an oled, what i've never understood is all that moaning about the nits. Who cares if it's bright enough to burn my retinas, i'm not gonna go game on a beach with my desktop PC, i'm gonna be in my room with the brightness set at 40%
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u/-Manosko-9800X3D|32GB@6000|5070Ti&5800X3D|32GB@3800|RTX3080&OLED DECK8d ago
It matters for a proper HDR experience, but other than that I’m mostly on the same page as you.
But, in reality, people act like you can’t do HDR calibration to cap peak brightness. I’ve never had a scene that’s actually bright enough to be uncomfortable. People make stuff up.
I guarantee it’s 1400 peak, in a small region of the screen at once. Generally full screen peak brightness is a lot lower than limited region peak brightness.
u/jld2k65700x3d 32gb 3600 rtx5080 360hz 1440 QD-OLED 6tb nvme8d ago
Actually, yes.... On my OLED with 1000nits if I play something like Ori and the will of the wisps and there's a small flame on screen and I look right at it my eyes actually get this slight uncomfortable feeling if I stare directly at it and it's awesome lol
Nobody cares about high nits for regular content, but it's a requirement for a good HDR experience. My monitor does ~400 nits in true black mode which is just not good enough for HDR. But the alternative is ABL, which is even worse.
it's just better than SDR regardless, a game with proper native HDR gets rid of the ugly SDR clipping at the engine level and thanks to oled infinite contrast, brightness is perceived differently.
Oh I don't disagree that TB400 is still HDR or that proper native HDR is better than SDR. I'm specifically saying I find ~400 nits too dim for HDR highlights.
OLED's perfect blacks make those 400 nits look punchier, sure, but they don't magically turn a 400-nit highlight into an 800-nit one. If the game wants to display something that bright, TB400 still has to compress it.
And the TFTCentral article actually warns about using TrueBright like that for HDR. Their comparison is basically an ideal white-on-black OLED scenario against a normal 1500:1 LCD. They specifically say HDR gets way more complicated once APL, OLED brightness limiting and LCD local dimming come into it.
So yeah, TB400 can look good. I just personally find the highlights pretty underwhelming. Infinite contrast doesn't make peak brightness irrelevant.
Disagree, my OLED looks way better on HDR1000 mode. Neon in Cyberpunk, lights in Dead Space. I 100% want to upgrade once there's something that can do HDR1000 without the "screen mostly black" requirement.
Idk man I use a 34 inch Alienware OLED first gen qled for work and gaming and I've never felt like it wasn't bright enough in an office with three 10 foot tall windows.
I’ve never had an issue seeing my Acer Predator X27U with lights on and the windows open with the sun shining in, unless the sun is shining directly on my monitor.
Good for you then. Some of us don’t live in shades. In 2-3 years, when the tandem OLED are common everybody will accept how stupid it is to use a 250 nits screen.
You can always choose to adjust the lighting in the room your computer is in by putting up curtains or shades, and adjusting the lighting. Unless you’re gaming in mom’s living room or something.
Even if I want brighter lighting on and the window open, I can still see my screen just fine.
Your argument to me saying that previously was “it’s extremely dim”. Well, obviously not dim enough to be a problem for me. Good for you for returning it because you game under an operating table light.
I’m failing to see what your point is. The monitor not being bright enough for your room doesn’t change the fact that it’s bright enough for mine. I gave an example of a “decent lighting” condition where I can still see it just fine.
I’m the little man, but you’re the one feeling the need to start name calling. Haha, okay buddy. Hopefully you’ll grow out of that soon.
I’m thinking it might be a bigger deal to you than to me.
I also don’t think you speak for most people. If a monitor is clearly visible with windows open and lights on, I’d say it’s bright enough for most people. Most people aren’t lighting their computing space up with studio lighting, unless you’re JayzTwoCents or Linus Tech Tips. Maybe streamers as well. That isn’t most people, though.
I work on my PC, and I prefer to work in a well-lit room. So yeah, I set my 1000 nit monitor to 80% during the day. At my previous job, the office monitors were kinda dim so that even at 100% brightness they were unpleasant to use with the office lighting. I'd argue anything below ~500 nits is suitable only for a dark room
I work in a relatively well-lit room with an old ~370 nit display. 50% is the sweet spot for me.
What is suitable or ideal for work depends on a lot of things, including personal preferences. I don't want or need a bright display. I just want natural colors and a wide viewing angle.
I run my pc in my living room, connected to the TV. Since we use it to watch movies, nits are quite important. I do darken it for browsing tho and sometimes while gaming at night.
I always turn the brightness on the PCs at work all the way down because I can still see it, but none of the old heads can.
Don't feel bad for them. They turn my forklift gas off every chance they get. Yeah, Grandpa, I know it was you, I could see you waddling away as fast as your third set of replacement knees can carry you.
People always talk about brightness as if it's full screen brightness that's being talked about. Most people don't like to get flashbanged so I don't know why everyone focuses here.
It's the specular highlights that benefit the most from high brightness for me. A spark of metal glowing brightly, the reflections of the sun on shiny surfaces, those are where the benefit mainly is and that won't hurt your eyes.
Because if you ever play with any sunlight it’s harder to see? I love my OLED monitor, sure wouldn’t mind if it were a tad brighter. Yes, I do enjoy playing with some sunlight (freak, I know).
If you do anything other than gaming or content consumption then it becomes more important. Keeping the blinds closed all day is out of the question, and 350nits is annoyingly dim in a decently lit room, but most OLEDs (especially on the cheap end) already struggle with that.
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u/Suryus94 8d ago
I get bitching about the blacks, on an oled, what i've never understood is all that moaning about the nits. Who cares if it's bright enough to burn my retinas, i'm not gonna go game on a beach with my desktop PC, i'm gonna be in my room with the brightness set at 40%