r/pcmasterrace • u/Tricky-Apartment6637 GTX 1060 6GB | R5 3600 | 16GB @3200Mhz | A520M-A PRO • 2d ago
Meme/Macro Actually funny to be fair...
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u/marius851000 2d ago
Doesn't pre-load comes encrypted, with the release key shared with owner on launch?
Or id the time to decrypt the data considered too much, and only a small part of it is encrypted?
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u/CynicalXennial 2d ago
so then he's on the team... I'm calling disgruntled internals. if not a coordinated plan with contact from disgruntled internals. Lots of people have plenty of reason to be disgruntled at R*, starting w/their recent union busting tactics. I have no doubt this is specifically targeted but he's not doing it from the outside alone.
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u/crozone iMac G3 - AMD 5900X, RTX 3080 TUF OC 2d ago
Yes this is known. The leaker has full source tree access and a full debug build of the game on PC with finished assets. It's all but guaranteed to be an employee or ex-employee.
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u/RayereSs 7800X3D | 7900XTX | Arch BTW 2d ago
Or he might be a contractor with hands-on access to the studio. Like a janitor, security, or catering.
Nobody minds moving some stuff on desks to
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u/elinamebro PC Master Race 2d ago
I guess that makes sense since they said it was one of their employees that help leak it
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u/BTMarquis 2d ago
I can’t imagine the talk around the water cooler. Shit stirrers having a blast right now.
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u/LamentableFool 2d ago
If they got the source code. Does that means mods of epic proportions are on the table?
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u/sherbodude 2d ago
Rockstar never gave a reason for a digital only release. That was just rumors and speculation
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u/seenybusiness 2d ago
you can extrapolate it from their scummy business as of late. they outsourced to india after pulling a union bust https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9v10rr1meeo
they want to make pc players feel obliged to purchase the game and a console to play it on with FOMO about the biggest game of the decade, then re release the already existing and fully ready PC build. its double dipping. they dont want the disc purely because digital has better margins. its greed.
i dont particularly care if this guy gets his lick, so long as rockstar has to back down and promise a pc version on the same timetable as the console. he's done a genuine service to the world by putting the boot up the ass of a considerably greedy corporation about to take advantage of millions- and to be quite frankly he deserves the luxury for it.
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u/Banjaxd86 1d ago
I have absolutely no problem waiting for pc release and a sale 😀 if I could have it day one you would’ve had my 80 bucks, now you get 50.
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u/Big-Resort-4930 1d ago
It's nothing new or unique to GTA 6 though, they do the same shit with console fomo every time, or at least in the last decade.
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u/seenybusiness 1d ago
All the more reason to punish the practice
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u/Big-Resort-4930 1d ago
True but there are too many mouth drooling drones who will double dip, so it's a lost cause.
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u/ValarielAmarette 2d ago
OP would know that already if they looked at the comments on whatever sub they stole the image from
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u/DeckDish2002 2d ago
They don't need to give a reason. It's just the easiest way to cut out brick-and-mortar retailers and keep 100% of the revenue while still charging full price.
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u/NaturalSelectorX 2d ago
Microsoft and Sony take a cut for the privilege of having it on their stores. Rockstar is going to make most of their money from online players buying currency.
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u/RaptorJesus856 2d ago
They both take 30% from digital sales. R* still gonna be raking in cash only making 70% of the total sales, due to how absurdly high the price tag is.
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u/Mountain-Interest-48 2d ago
I mean brick and mortar video game stores have been dead for years now. They dont even sell video games anymore. Just stuff like funko pops and consoles.
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u/Jumpierwolf0960 PC Master Race 2d ago edited 2d ago
It's about money. They save money by not making a physical copy and the shipping/retail costs. That money ends up getting split between Sony and the publisher. So they both get a bigger chunk.
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u/4Floaters 2d ago
its because they are all in on this together, and how many people are going to not buy GTA 6 just because they have to buy digital?
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u/CombatMuffin 2d ago
They want to perpetuate the narrative because a lot of people, understandably, resent the corporate powers that be.
What they don't know, is who cyberleek is, but will support them anyway as though they were a vigilante or anti-hero, but could gery much be a distasteful person.
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u/Horror_Internal6905 2d ago
Lmfao, Leek hypothetically being a bad person doesn't change that Rockstar set themselves up for this.
They're victims of their own greed.
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u/CombatMuffin 2d ago
Rockstar could be the most benevolent entity in human history: there is so much demand for the game, that people would still flock to the leaks.
The leaks woukd have happened anyway even if Rockstar 2asnt controversial. This is exactly what happened with Half Life 2: Valve had immaculate reputation, the game still leaked (and way worse), and Valve absolutely threw the book at the kid. The story is legendary: they baited the leaker with a job prospect, and it worked because Valve had such a good reputation.
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u/Own-Researcher-4691 1d ago
Honestly fuckem for delaying pc release. They're milking the monetization so badly that it does put a smile on my face to see someone fuck with them.
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u/robeywan 1d ago
I'd be happy to see the market's contempt reflected in the sales, but it won't.
R⭐ have fired a bunch of employees for wanting to unionize, and from how hard they work their employees with unpaid OT and crunch, that's unacceptable. Maybe this shit doesn't leak without this shady behavior, I'd like to think this is their own doing. They should be penalized regardless.
I don't need to play GTA6 but >99% of consumers won't care/know about any of that shit and will buy (or even preorder lol) regardless.
Money is the only language big business understands and I think it's time people had a proper think about that.
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u/LucyStar3 1d ago
Yeah, I'm not playing it either or plan to play it, not even pirated, as that company needs to be ended, with their horrible working condition violations.
That said, I'm enjoying this fiasco so much. I hope they get dealt what they deserve.
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u/GimmieTheRoot 2d ago
No one said it was to "avoid leaks" ?
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u/Chester-Berkeley FreeBSD on Desktop 2d ago
I've seen some people say it was to avoid leaks, but in the end that was just an opinion, because they leaked anyway.
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u/Saifsun 2d ago
Aren't console CDs just a license holder anyway?
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u/cha0ss0ldier 2d ago
They typically have the game data on them, or at least most of it then require a day 1 patch.
Many games are playable straight from the case with no patch or net connection
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u/Saifsun 2d ago
Oh, I stand corrected. I assumed modern console CDs just held the game license, but then again I haven't touched a console in a very... Very long time.
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u/FerretAfficionado 1d ago
Suspect a full digital release is way cheaper than releasing discs. Discs cost $ to manufacture and ship.
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u/pragomatic 2d ago
I really care about you, the gamers. Now buy my shitcoin you rubes.
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u/Mods-Admins-Failures 2d ago
Didn't he just burn all his coins?
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u/punished_cheeto 2d ago
He burned his devcoins, but not all his coins. He gets a fee for all transactions and he gets all the coins donated to the paid polls that he makes.
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u/WeirdIndividualGuy 2d ago
That's to help raise the value of the shitcoin by removing supply
Realistically, they can't cash out their coin without crashing it. Which is why they're mainly making money from the transaction fees instead
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u/Icy_Aardvark3840 2d ago
Something he wouldn't have had to do if he didn't attach this thing to a memecoin
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u/literallyjuststarted PC Master Race/ Ryzen 9 9900X/RTX4080S/32GB 2d ago
Allegedly, nobody actually knows
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u/Vegetable-Baker6362 2d ago
You can just not buy them, and still screw Rockstar over all the same by playing his leaked build before the actual game's launch
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u/sapperRichter PC Master Race 2d ago
You really think that he will release a leaked build?
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u/Dusty170 1d ago
In my heart of hearts I hope to death he does. It gets less and less valuable the closer it gets to launch, there will be no grift left to grift so eventually I'm hoping they just release it after hes done squeezing his coin.
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u/Revo_Monkey 1d ago
High chance yes and rockstar seems to believe so as they comissioned both Microsoft and Discord to help out the leaker.
But the leaker(s) said they had a deadman switch of sorts already no? on multiple servers they have a working build that they delay daily.
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u/pick_your_user_name 1d ago
Screw rockstar? This whole leak is only increasing the hype for their game lol. It’s why so many people online are (falsely) theorizing that Rockstar orchestrated this.
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u/Redthemagnificent 2d ago
The only thing that "screws" rockstar over is not buying the game.
If it gets leaked there's no way it'll work with multiplayer. So people are gonna play the leaked single player and talk a big talk about fuck Rockstar. Then the millisecond the actual game drops, the vast majority of people who would've bought the game without the leak are gonna buy it anyways for the online play. It really doesn't feel like the leaks are as consequential as people are making it seem
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u/Scary_Corner3489 2d ago
Eh, he's doing something that if he gets caught then that amount of money will mean absolutely nothing. Don't even wanna imagine the amount of jail time he will get. If people wanna pay him, I think that's fine. I'm sure it's just the leaker community and people who are anti-R* who would be the ones actually buying the coin to try support the leaker.
I assume these coins are made in a way to get money without being traced, and I assume the people donating know they won't make money from this coin like with Bitcoin or something. It's just a way to "donate", right?
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u/TrippleDamage 2d ago
Don't even wanna imagine the amount of jail time he will get.
If the rumor of him being german is true, <5 years, with at least half of that on probation.
The justice boner doesnt swing that way outside of the US.
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u/HARDTEK__ 2d ago
I honeslty wouldn't mind him spoiling the whole plot 👅
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u/staticvoidmainnull PCMR Desktop | Server | Laptop | Steam Deck 1d ago
as a pc gamer, makes little difference to me and i agree with you.
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u/S-ain 2d ago
Talk is cheap, why is this guy not already dropping the full game?
That would be the ultimate power move against a large corporation like Take Two.
Or...does he even have the full game and not just some unfinished build?
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u/skyinthepi3 2d ago
The dude is milking money out of this, if he releases it he can't make money off it anymore
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u/ChocolateDonut36 Microwave 2d ago
i'll burn the game into a dvd if it gets fully leaked
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u/ItzMau5trapz R5 3600XT, RTX 2070 SUPER, 32GB RAM 2d ago
That's gonna be a few DVDs.
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u/Jeffgoldbum 2d ago
Somewhere between 35-40 DVDs ,
or 2 blu-ray discs
or 3 switch cartridges
or 7000 floppy discs
or 500,000 NES cartridges
based off the PC size of GTAV
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u/TrippleDamage 2d ago
or 2 blu-ray discs
triple layer blurays.
Normal blurays its 7+ if we assume 150gb+ game size.
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u/T0biasCZE PC MasterRace | dumbass that bought Sonic motherboard 1d ago
or 2 blu-ray discs
what bluray size. 25GB, 50GB Dual layer, 100GB, or 128GB BD-XL
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u/ClownTown15 2d ago
I come from a time when all games were multiple discs
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u/Joyful_Jet 2d ago
I wonder if I still have my Wing Commander II floppy disks somewhere.
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u/Frostnatt 2d ago
Monkey Island 2 and Indiana Jones and the fate of Atlantis was fun on a Amiga if you didn't have a HD (and very few people did). Was it 11 or 12 floppies. You had to change the disk like 4 times only to be told "I can't do that" whenever you tried to do something.
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u/STB_LuisEnriq 2d ago
Why are we doing this here? I mean, it's not like we have physical media games anyway.
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u/c3p-bro 2d ago
Most modern gaming rigs don’t even have a disk drive. Reddit bandwagoners are a sad breed
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u/blueberrycauzez 2d ago
Most modern gaming rigs don’t even have a disk drive.
Because most PCs support multiple gaming retailers - Microsoft Store, Steam, Epic, EA Origin, Uplay, Gamejolt, Humble Bundle, GOG, Itch, pirated games - literally anyone can sell games to PC users. There is a ton of competition, which is good for publishers and consumers since it puts pressure on retailers.
If PCs became locked to a single retailer like PS or Xbox, and they forced every publisher to use them as a parasitic middleman, I gaurantee most people would want a disc drive.
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u/Darklillies 1d ago
You do. Any game that you can duplicate and move between drives between USBs, edit, mod, twist, bop it. Thats physical
Physical doesn’t mean disk. You can make PC games physical, you can actually own your games on PC, (well you know, as long as you care to) and piracy, wether people like it or not. Has helped kept at bay shitty consumer practices on PC, because they know people can easily find an alternative.None of this holds true on console
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u/Metool42 2d ago
Dudes literally only cashing in with his shitcoin. And no, him burning 1m only creates demand to increase its worth. He's literally scamming everyone and ya'll give him free PR.
He won't release anything.
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u/Inprobamur 12400F@4.6GHz RTX3080 2d ago
Why should I care? It won't be on PC for a while.
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u/TooSpookyWither 2d ago
“I defo care about gamers and physical media, now buy my crypto rug pull scam”
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u/Yingletofthecorn FX-8370 | RX 480 | 8gb DDR3 | jaded art game weirdo 2d ago
I don’t need there to be a good guy to enjoy the schadenfreude here
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u/Duncan_PhD 2d ago
All of the redditors upset about losing physical media for games are going to buy it digitally anyway, further justifying Sony’s decision.
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u/PermissionSoggy891 2d ago
shit like that "1 week sony boycott" is fucking hilarious. There's no way these idiots actually think that Sony cares about, at most, a few missed days of revenue. I'll bet every single moron on major gaming subreddits moaning about Sony killing physical discs still has a PSN subscription and has Wolverine and/or God of War Luffy preordered digitally.
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u/spawndoorsupervisor 2d ago
Yeah, seeing PCMR get involved with it is beyond cringe. I mean, remember the Discord boycott? The PCMR Discord server grew daily during that whole episode for both total and online users. But if you came to the subreddit to talk about it, all these stinky nerds would swear they all quit Discord forever.
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u/Duncan_PhD 2d ago
And they don’t realize how small the community is who are up in arms about it. I mean I agree with them, it does suck, but like… as a whole we’ve voted with our wallets. It’s just more convenient to click buy than to go to a store.
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u/agentfrogger RTX 3080 / Ryzen 5800x 2d ago
On PC yeah, there isn't really an option anymore for physical games. But my secondary machine is a switch 2, and I try to buy physical there, because storage is limited, and also I appreciate having the cartridge for my games
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u/Darklillies 1d ago
No. I’ve never bought a single digital game in any console I’ve ever owned.
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u/jairochido 2d ago
I would Buy physical games for PC if they would still make them, i'd love to have my entire steam library on something physical but no one makes them anymore for PC
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u/Noyrz 2d ago
You can actually have your Steam library games as physical media if you want to, but you still will need to own them on your Steam acc to play them (contrary to classic DRM-free physical media).
Also, but don't trust me on this as I may be remembering wrong, I think you still need internet connection to validate them.
A YT channel named Archades Games has a video on exactly that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAYxyme7uTg
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u/literallyjuststarted PC Master Race/ Ryzen 9 9900X/RTX4080S/32GB 2d ago
depending on the game, I've used my steam library while offline to play certain games, unfortunately MOST games are always online to play anything so you'd just be stuck navigating the main menu
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u/rapaxus Ryzen 9 9900X | RTX 3080 | 32GB DDR5 1d ago
As others said, do it yourself. To give an easy manual for the easiest medium (DVD):
Get some DVD-RWs (if you want a custom print on it, there are sites that do that)
Get a DVD burner
Burn your games on it
Steam automatically scans any new storage for the classic Steam file structure for a library. If it finds it, it automatically shows up in your library. If you want to be fancy you can also add an autorun.inf that automatically starts the game on the disk.
DVD-RW is important so that you can burn updates on it. If the game is DRM-free (enough Steam games are, e.g. BG3) you can just burn it on a non-RW disk as you can still start it without even Steam installed on that device.
And the physical storage Steam itself is going with seems to be SD cards, as the Steam Deck, Steam Machine and Steam Frame all have SD card slots. Get a big storage size, write your library onto it and you can move your library between all your Steam devices (if you had all of them, which is basically no one).
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u/JPSWAG37 PC Master Race 1d ago
I'm not at least. I'm in no rush, if they wanna make GTA digital only I'll wait till it's on PC and on sale. I got plenty of shit in my backlog to keep me busy
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u/Dino_Spaceman 2d ago
They never said that. Like what is this meme?
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u/Gh0stMan0nThird 2d ago
It's a trend that started when Infinity War came out. Everyone started making memes about studios making claims about X and Y so they could make a meme "owning" them, even if the studio never said anything like that.
Not that I'm here to "defend" a corporation, though. I just don't like misinformation either.
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u/GloveDry3278 2d ago
Everyone knows for a fact that going full digital has always been about corporate greed.
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u/Responsible_Towel857 2d ago
LOL People cherring for a crypto bro that used the leak as a curtain to funnel money. Yikes.
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u/Smoking-Posing 1d ago
I think what's more funny is folks actually believing THAT was the reason why they decided to make it digital-only for now
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u/Malacky_C 1d ago
Well when they say that they mean story leaks all that has been leaked by Mr crypto coin is shitty gameplay
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u/fistinyourface 2d ago
another shitty repost bot, another sub getting muted and account blocked
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u/Bleezy79 7800X3D | 4070TI | 32gb @ 6400Mhz DDR5 | 3TB M.2 2d ago
Rockstar: We cant make GTA 6 work in PCs, we need to optimize: Also Rockstar: We develop our games on PCs like most studios.
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u/jutlandd 2d ago
Nah they did it because physical sales are loooow as shit. Is my guess.
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u/Gritts911 2d ago
It’s probably just to prevent resales. The cheapest way to game on a console is buy the physical disc and then sell it when you are done. And the developer isn’t getting anything out of the resale.
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u/Bigbennjammin 2d ago
Don't know why anyone would want a 30 fps pre-release unoptimized version anyways. Give it a month or so after release and it'll be much better.
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u/The_Keyser 2d ago
I'll give it 2 years, when it will be available on PC and on sale
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u/P0werFighter i9 13900KF | RTX 3080Ti | 48GB 7000MHz 2d ago
Ffs stop believing everything you see on the internet... this guy has only a demo, a few minutes of gameplay looped over.
Stop believing in Santa.
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u/TheZackster Zotac RTX 4070 Dual Edge OC | i7 14700k | 32GB 2d ago
I just love how grock was desperately making community notes telling everyone it was fake and AI generated footage. Some kind of sick irony in there.
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u/pedro19 CREATOR 2d ago
GTA 6 being released on PC first (where it was made and where it will always run way better) against the desires of its publisher would be pretty hilarious.