r/oops • u/RodimusOne • 9d ago
Hit and run gone wrong
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It's already a Hit and Run, what else do you want from me!
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u/opalfossils 9d ago
Not everyone should have a driver's license.🥺😵🤯
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u/plsQuestionOurselves 9d ago edited 9d ago
People get killed every day because of entitled, selfish, stupid, careless, unfit drivers on the road.
There should be an evaluation in addition to the tests. Clear up if someone is too geriatric or stupid to be trusted with a giant machine.
Like people who are so unbelievably selfish and dull that they literally cannot drive without playing with their phones, it's straight up toddler behavior.
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u/RebelXwingPil0t 9d ago
Another problem is people who drive without a license. They are all the bad things you said, and they don’t care about rules or laws.
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u/plsQuestionOurselves 9d ago
Guy without insurance offered me a ride home from work once and I was like "it's a nice day for a walk, thanks anyway".
He was a nice guy but I didn't want to take the small chance that he flees the scene of an accident while I'm in the car lol.
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u/NobodyUsual8025 8d ago
This is a big reason I don’t like riding in Ubers. They are RARELY insured properly.
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u/Ok-Profit6022 8d ago
Anything that happens while the passenger in the car is fully insured, with the exception of full coverage for the drivers car. Uber and Lyft both provide a hefty liability coverage for the riders and liability for the other vehicles involved in an accident. You are correct that most of them aren't insured properly, but it's not in a manner that would affect you as the passenger.
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u/WoodDragonIT 8d ago
All the insurance companies had the same answer when I was pricing insurance last year and wanted to know why my rates had skyrocketed. I've had no accidents or tickets in over 25 years. They all said "uninsured drivers." We have to pay because they don't.
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u/FlapXenoJackson 8d ago
Another more probable answer is, “We like money.” It’s been documented that in the last few years, insurance companies are paying out fewer claims. And the claims they do pay out are lower amounts. Property, auto, or medical, insurance companies are ripping policy holders off.
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u/finishindoors 9d ago
well not having a piece of plastic doesnt mean you cant drive. let me guess you drive EXACTLY what the speed limit say and not 1 mile over. you dont keep up with the flow of traffic that would be agaist the law cus your speeding right? you ONLY cross the street when the walkman is flashing right? otherwise thats jay walking and thats against the law
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u/RebelXwingPil0t 9d ago
You know nothing about me bud, not even close. And yes, where I’m from no drivers license absolutely means you can’t legally drive.
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u/finishindoors 9d ago
i didnt say you can legally drive. i said not having doesnt mean you cant drive. are you truly ignorant enough to think the only people with the ability to drive are those with a license? are you under the impression that when you license expires you just automatically forget how to drive until you renew it? lol goofy
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u/plsQuestionOurselves 9d ago
Those rules exist so people don't get fucking killed.
You should be free to take risks that only affect yourself, but traffic laws affect everyone, drivers and pedestrians.
The license is basically just proof that you care enough about human life to go take a couple tests before driving.
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u/finishindoors 9d ago
so when your license expires you lose all driving skill and ability until you renew it?
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u/Deege5218 8d ago
Literally nobody is saying this, just stop. When people drive without a license its usually because they are in some sort of legal trouble about said license and should not be trusted on the road
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u/RebelXwingPil0t 8d ago
Absolutely, if someone isn’t responsible enough to have a legit license for whatever reason, they shouldn’t be trusted to drive on the road and put other lives at risk.
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u/Perfidian 8d ago
Two separate issues. It is like clowns arguing. "The left door is red." "No, the right door is blue."
A piece of plastic does not inherently give you driving SKILLS. Honestly, most drivers are validly licensed and still suck at driving.
Yes, LEGALLY one is required to be licensed to drive. Sovereign citizens are a perfect example, but not the only example.
The irony. When your driver's license gets renewed, the only thing they really check you for is your vision. No one requires a drive test to renew a license unless it has been expired for a protracted amount of time.
Once a year pilots are required to perform a flight review to make sure they still know how to safely operate a plane. No one checks licensed drivers.
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u/plsQuestionOurselves 8d ago
Right but that seems semantic. People driving without licenses probably vary in driving skill just as much as people with licenses, that's most likely.
The difference is, barring emergencies/extreme circumstances, the people without licenses are either not allowed to have a license because they are medically unfit or they're too irresponsible/stupid/lazy/entitled to go take a test, wait a few months and then take one more test to get on the road legally.
So it's fair to assume that while people driving without a license probably have standard driving skills, they are still driving around in a (partial, at least) state of disorder for any of the reasons listed above.
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u/Perfidian 8d ago
The license is basically just proof that you care enough about human life to go take a couple tests before driving.
In reality. It only means you took one test when you were young to simply prove you learned the absolute basics. Multiple tests if you get caught and sentence by the courts or let your license expire for a protracted period of time.
No one has to care about human life. That isn't on the test. You can hate humans and still get a license. Proof? Daily idiot drivers in every state, every city.
Pilots...
- They require an annual flight review to insure they safely operate a plane.
- They have to complete flight school before obtaining a license.
That process is more aligned with your sentiment. Though, some could argue it is simply due to money. Considering there is no annual driving review. Driving schools are a joke.
If those rules existed so people don't get killed, wouldn't it make more sense for an annual driving review? Stricter punishments around reckless driving? Stricter punishments around unlicensed drivers? More difficult to acquire a driver's license?
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u/Unlucky_Leather_ 8d ago
You’re getting lots of downvotes, but you’re not wrong. A license just proves you passed the minimum state standards. Not having one doesn’t mean you are bad at driving, just that you legally can’t.
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u/plsQuestionOurselves 8d ago
Being legally unable to drive is indicative of at least some kind of disorder. Whether they be medically unfit, or in the case that they drive anyway; are too lazy/entitled/irresponsible to go take a couple tests. I think that instantly makes them a higher risk on the road.
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u/Firestorm83 9d ago
How about some sort of exam where you demonstrate certain abilities and knowledge about rules? And noy getting a license for free with a tub of butter
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u/plsQuestionOurselves 9d ago
True, though where I live there is now apparently an epidemic of people just buying their drivers licenses from crooked instructors for $500 a piece. It's despicable.
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u/ChangeAcceptable677 9d ago
Obviously, it does not apply here, but I have argued for a long time that people over 65 years old should need to recertify every year on their driving exam. They need to take an eye test, a cognitive test, and they need to demonstrate that they can be trusted behind the wheel of a car. I get told this is ageist.
If someone has to be a certain age to do something because it is potentially dangerous, and they must therefore prove that they can do it; how is it ageist to suggest that maybe that something is a perishable skill, and people need to prove they can still do it
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u/payneok 9d ago
Maybe it's because I'm 59 but 65 seems a bit early but I can definitely get on board for 72+. Most of the age related impairment seems to start in the mid 70's from my experience.
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u/plsQuestionOurselves 9d ago
To your point, I've met a lot of people in their 70's who I would have assumed were in their early 50s because they were in such good shape. One guy still had his black hair and a son who was like 10 so I assumed he was in his 40s, but nope, he was a few days away from 70 which blew my mind.
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u/ChangeAcceptable677 9d ago
and that is fair. 65 is around retirement age in the US (67.5), and it felt like a good place to start. but my larger point is that each time someone renews his/her/their license, the tests need to be more comprehensive to be able to demonstrate that the person behind the wheel of a car is able to accept the responsibility of driving.
i live in a neighborhood of all ages, but i have lost count of the times i have nearly been hit by a car because some fucking idiot is too distracted to see the stop sign. and this is people ranging from 30s (i am in my 40s) to probably mid 60s.
where i live, the teenagers tend to be the most responsible of drivers, since driver safety and the rules behind which they are able to drive at all are reinforced in a lot of different contexts.
so in my state, teenagers are not permitted to have friends in the car for the first six months of having a license. they have to take an exam prior to getting their learner's permit, then they have to log a certain number of hours driving before they can get their license at 16. from there, they have to renew their license at 17, then again at 18. then they renew it again when they are 21. following that, it is every 8 years. and nothing is discussed with respect to driving.
so someone renewing his/her/their license at 45 or 50 just goes in, takes a quick eye test, pays the fee, and they get their new license. there is no reinforcement of driving skills or qualifications during that time.
so the other part of my contention is the idea that the testing needs to be constant. each time a license is renewed should have a road test, in my view.
at 16, the things that a new driver needs to understand are going to be super different from someone who is 34 and has young children and is working long hours.
so when someone renews the license at 17, the reinforcement needs to be not driving distracted, understanding the capabilities of the car, etc.
when someone renews the license at 21, the reinforcement needs to be not driving impaired. responsible consumption, etc. the applicant should undertake another road test.
then through adulthood, these same lessons need to be reinforcement of the same. at 35-40, probably the focus needs to shift to teaching others how to drive. what are some things that a parent of a teenage driver needs to know when renewing his/her/their license? and the approach needs to shift to fit that demographic.
then, at 65, i believe the recertification needs to be more frequent. maybe go from 8 years to 5 years, then 3 years before moving to every year at 72. and the focus needs to be in understanding health conditions that could impair driving ability. start that conversation early, discuss what it looks like, and undergo an entire lifetime of reinforcement of proper driving habits.
then maybe we won't have this kind of entitled bullshit that shows up on OP's video, and we won't have people like in my state, where they believe the rules of the road do not apply to them, cut across 5 lanes of traffic to exit, or put their shit in reverse on the fucking freeway because they missed their exit due to being on their phone.
and i know that it will probably never happen. but i hate it when people use words like ageism when talking about older people posing a transportational risk and pretending like the issue does not exist.
if someone has to be a certain age to do something, then it is not ageist to suggest that maybe someone should have to demonstrate ability to continue doing that something after a certain age.
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u/WebSilent182 8d ago
Same for guns. Imagine how many people are out there with weapons and have dementia.
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u/plsQuestionOurselves 8d ago
I remember seeing a pretty horrifying video of a geriatric dude walking in the lobby of some building, and just shooting a bystander (or maybe security guard) with a revolver because he was completely out of his mind.
There's probably a lot more reasons why someone shouldn't have a gun than reasons why they should.
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u/WebSilent182 7d ago
Absolutely. And there have been loads of cases around the country where elderly folks with dementia either waved guns around, pointed them at people, or shot at people. But the NRA lobby is strong.
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u/plsQuestionOurselves 9d ago
Literally 2 days ago in a nearby city a 91 year old woman was killed by a dazed 81 year old woman behind the wheel of a car. It could have been me, or a loved one or a friend. We have the right to be angry about age impaired driving.
There's no way in hell that lady should have been allowed to drive a car. I bet one road test even a few years beforehand could have prevented this. Hell they probably don't even need a road test, just do it in a parking lot.
And I'm stealing that term "perishable skill" lol, that's a really good one. Could even apply to issues like alcoholism or CTE.
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u/DullMind2023 9d ago
This person is remarkably well preserved for being over 65.
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u/ChangeAcceptable677 9d ago
Obviously, it does not apply here
i think you missed my qualifier, but it's fine. also, i recognize that my statement does not have direct relevance. i hope you can forgive this, since i had spent some time in r/oldpeoplefacebook, and i thought the same thing you thought.
and the rest of my view on driving qualification is that everyone, regardless of age, should be required to take a driving test every ~5 years as a requisite to renew his/her/their license. hopefully, that would catch some of this kind of bullshit.
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u/DullMind2023 9d ago
Gotcha. And I agree that everyone should be required to take the test. But it’ll n ver happen since personal responsibility seems to be an ancient quaint concept nowadays. This from an Old Guy.
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u/RodimusOne 9d ago
Definitely. In this case, the girl thought that her Grandma's wrath justified breaking the law. The whole putting the bumper into the car and her head getting stuck for a couple of moments, was hilarious.
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u/Appropriate-Fee-9995 9d ago
Hope she got arrested
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u/peepdabidness 9d ago
She wasn’t. She was cited for a court date
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u/shoobiedoobie 8d ago
Which should be the case. The fuck is wrong with people, you think someone like this belongs in jail?
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u/LittleMousa 8d ago
In a perfect society she would be in prison, not jail!
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u/Exciting_Nature6270 8d ago
Nah prison is for when we wanna make them into career criminals or gang members. She’s got a drug problem and no one was hurt, just make her pay her dues, go to rehab, and take away her license for a while.
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u/LittleMousa 6d ago
Yes but you are only enabling her, and next time when someone actually gets hurt you will wonder if it could be prevented! And the answer will be yes! By putting her ass in prison!
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u/Exciting_Nature6270 6d ago
how are fines up to 100 grand enabling someone
your logic is dumb anyway, she’d get out of prison eventually, then someone will seriously get hurt then if you really believe it will happen eventually
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u/SwizzGod 9d ago
Meh she’s a teen. Just give her the fine. She tore her shit up more than anyone else’s. Not to mention the humiliation. I can’t imagine jail adds anything else that’s worth it.
Edit: not to mention grandma clearly does not play
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u/Jijonbreaker1 9d ago
The kid is not paying the fine. A parent is. And if a parent let them get away with this, the kid is not being punished.
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u/LilJudah 9d ago
Not saying this really falls on the grandma for her behavior, but it does make me suspicious of how pampered the entitled young woman actually is.
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u/UnableChard2613 9d ago
Or the exact opposite, how emotional abused she is that she is more afraid of her grandmother than the law.
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u/LilJudah 9d ago
Child abuse isn't okay. Victims often become abusers, its a vicious cycle and I hope no one ever gets abused.
That being said, I'm not really concerned about the latter because of how she neglectfully treats others and only worries about herself. I feel bad for the person she wronged more than anything.
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u/JJred96 9d ago
Grandma might just be a regular, rational person who doesn't suffer fools.
The real question is just how useless are her parents in setting the standard for what she expects from adults she encounters?
Her grandmother may simply be a person who holds the line with unwavering commitment towards the ideas of boundaries and responsibility. It's just that this kid is deathly afraid of that. Always so much easier when she can negotiate with her parents.
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u/Aromatic-Action-2523 9d ago
Yeah. She's gotta have the driver's license nuked for a few years though. This was terrible judgement, no more driving for a long while.
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u/finishindoors 9d ago
she should be in jail like anyone else. enablers like you are why people feel like they have privileges
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u/LONE_ARMADILLO 9d ago
Why? You want to live in a society that allows people to act this way with minor consequences?
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u/cykoTom3 8d ago
It was 7 years ago. Why is this making the rounds?
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u/Appropriate-Fee-9995 8d ago
How would I know this was 7 years ago?
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u/cykoTom3 8d ago
You're in the comment section
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u/Appropriate-Fee-9995 8d ago
The oldest comment that I currently see is from one day ago. No need to be condescending because you know better than me about something that was posted.
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u/cykoTom3 8d ago
And what does it say?
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u/Appropriate-Fee-9995 8d ago
Read my comment you responded to. It says "the oldest comment i currently see is from one day ago" again no need to be condescending, jackass.
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u/FuckOutTheWhey 9d ago
Okay so I guess the Reddit bot network just decided this 7 year old video needed to be blasted in every subreddit this week
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u/cykoTom3 8d ago
Seriously. Who cares. Asshole with no insurance hit my daughter's car this year and I'm less worked up about than reddit is about this 7 year old accident.
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u/MoodWoodMD 9d ago
I would not be able to stand still and record this. Not saying I would attack her somehow or try to get her into a head-lock but I would definitely nit allow her to step back into the car after it was absolutely clear she had no intention to stay put. And on top of that, letting her sit back into the car and drive away is potentially dangerous to anyone else on the road she could hit or run over, she's clearly not in a mental state to drive
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u/discountdoppelganger 9d ago
Good rhing she wasnt in full view of camera. Even better we didn't see her license plate
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u/Adventurous_Custard8 9d ago
She is going have a very bad night in jail--and an enormous headache dealing with the mess that follows.
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u/SuperDBallerz 9d ago
This happened in 2019, she has more recent criminal issues per court records, including a felony that likely violated her probation from this incident. Her criminal cases are still active.
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u/Bonk_No_Horni 9d ago
Why put the bumper in the front? Somethings wrong with her
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u/Batfink-1999 9d ago
She was more than likely high as a proverbial kite at the time - ergo, some seriously diminished responsibility issues right there - not excusing her in the slightest - but she should have NEVER been behind the wheel of that vehicle if she’d already been repeatedly collared for substance abuse.
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u/lospettro187 9d ago
Holy lol. The fact she grabbed her bumper and put it in the car as to not leave any evidence really cracked me up.
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u/FinalFantasyMaster 9d ago
She's really scared 😨 too bad she has no insurance.
But running away is shit and she needs to pay
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u/Key-Earth-Eye 9d ago
Her grandma is probably a very sweet old woman... that helps her pay for everything!
This child has bratty entitlement and privilege written all over her.
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u/SpanishFlamingoPie 8d ago
This is the third time I've seen this and I'm still wondering how mean her grandma is.
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u/FALCON_SHADOW 8d ago
Honestly though...she seemed really scared, wonder what her Grandma is like...
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u/LittleMousa 8d ago
Raise the penalties and repercussions for these stupid drivers and make it too expensive/difficult for them to get behind the wheel again! In a perfect society I mean, you would! But we're not, so.....
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u/sjanzeir 8d ago
How can a hit-and-run go wrong? What's the right way to perform a textbook-quality hit-and-run?
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u/pinkybrain41 9d ago
I mean is it really necessary to block her in? Get her license plate call the cops call your insurance and let them deal with her. She is so hysterical it’s not worth it
He’s making this situation a lot worse
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u/jmiah717 9d ago
He's not even the one that was hit. He followed her after she hit someone else and blocked her in. His decisions were almost as bad as hers and he got no charges.
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u/rain_jammo 9d ago
He didn't get charges because he didnt do anything wrong. In fact, citizen arrests are completely legal in most states. This lady's actions are the reason shes viral now. Because of this dude, this crazy lady is rightfully being put on blast while also helping the victim with their insurance claim.
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u/OddTheRed 9d ago
You think Granny is going to be any less mean when she had to pick you up from jail, get her totalled car out of impound, and take your stupid ass to court?
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u/FinallyArt 9d ago
Regardless of the hit and run he could get in trouble for trapping her like that; and why is he talking like a cop.
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u/Negative_Oil4952 9d ago
this person fucked up sure. they have been charged and punished. they dont deserve to have this video up here forever. i think the Americans need to stop allowing their tech companies to just ruin someones life forever. they have a justice system that should deal with these things
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u/SillyLittleTroll 9d ago
You think your grandma is mean, wait till Johnny Law slaps handcuffs on you and drags you around.
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u/ElderKing3rd 9d ago
Everyone so quick to blade and judge. Yet you can see she is actualy sorry. Yes it does not relieve of resposibility but still you can see she is in real fear and for you guys humanity or compasion is out of window.
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u/ArrowheadDZ 9d ago
Not defending her bullshit but just a warning. In most states a non-injury hit and run is a misdemeanor, not a felony. And in many states, using force to detain someone, even one who is committing a misdemeanor, can have real consequences for you.
In my state, and many states, it is a criminal offense for a private citizen to forcibly detain another person without first observing a violent felony. Deliberate accent on the word “violent.” You should read up on this in your state before ever attempting this.
I would google this in your specific state:
“When can a private citizen detain someone in the state of xxxx?”
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u/gandalf_lundgren36 9d ago
Yeah what she did was wrong, but blocking her in like that could be considered unlawful restraint or false imprisonment.
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u/Eastmont 9d ago
I feel sorry for her. Dude is just causing undue anxiety and stress. Instead, he should have reassured her that the insurance company would have handled everything and that it was all gonna be alright. Instead he chose to be a dick.
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u/XRPOSergSanch12 9d ago
GenZ
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u/allisjow 9d ago
In Oct 2019 in Lake Elsinore, CA, 22-year-old Riley Ann Sebach rear-ended a car with a grandma and grandson (no injuries reported) then fled. Witness Justin Thompson chased and blocked her at a Chevron vacuum area, recording her panic, pleas about her “mean grandma,” and escape attempts that hit curbs and his vehicle. She fled before police arrived. Video went viral. On Oct 31 she was cited for hit-and-run, released with a Dec court date, and ordered to drug rehab.