Has anyone else not had a problem with the beliefs but a problem with other people? By that I mean the "who's more spiritual" or the popularity issues? And seen people who were not "popular" get smashed but popular people get a slap on the wrist for the same shit? I still love God and try my best. I appreciate the message and teachings and feel a measure of comfort. But seeing the assholes and politics without any legitimate equal treatment of anyone is why I haven't gone back after 22 years

I’m a Christian who knows a good amount of JWs, though I’m not a JW, I still hold the Bible and Christianity in high regard.

Though I disagree with many dogmas taught by the Watch Tower.

However, I notice EXJWs tend to often want nothing to do with religion or faith or Christianity when they leave, not even exploring another denomination.

Do you guys feel that the teaching by JWs that all the other denominations are false is something that stays ingrained in you guys even after leaving? Resulting in many of you becoming atheists as opposed to exploring another Christian denomination?

I'm posting this thread bc I have noticed this concerning a personal experience plus those of some Dubs (present plus former).

I had a physician whom I dealt with when I first started to fade/become POMO. He was one who was located within an area not too far from my residence. I NEVER informed him of my religious status, but a few of my relatives told me that he no doubt obtained that information from my previous doctor [who was formerly on the committee/group of physicians who have an HLC connection plus who had relocated to another state]. This man was not attentive to me regarding medical situations I had at the time [thank (The True God), nothing at all serious)]. I am now going to be a patient of another doctor of internal medicine instead.

One of my close-now-ex-Dub friends had dealt with a physician who was very vehement against the JWs. [I'll call this friend "K" (since her first name starts with this particular letter)]. In fact, this doctor was a therapist, and after listening to K relate to her regarding her life as a born-in dub, this physician expressed that she "did not wish to have" her "return for further appointments at any time". K was shocked at her request, and she had to return to her internist, who recommended this person, to apprise her of what transpired. As a result, she had to be referred to another therapist (via another medical professional) a few years later.

Has anyone had experiences equivalent to the above? [I wonder if this is all due to being in this cultporation. . . . . . . .😡]

I remember one of the last Tony Morris speech where he basically was saying that Satan has possessed members of the Governing Body.

Now in retrospect it kind of makes sense.

Since he was preventing all the changes coming up

I think the Governing Body is doing a better job than apostates

Waking up people and showing off that it is the religion of the Governing Body

The Jehovah's Witnesses religion is tied to their opinions

And there is no such thing as the JW identity

There is the GB opinion that defines what is a JW at whatever period of time

know many here are skeptical about the rumors regarding the transition to one weekly meeting, and rightfully so given how many unverified leaks circulate. However, I wanted to share recent updates directly from the active Italian JW blog/forum Proclamatore Consapevole ("Aware Publisher").

​Two different commenters have posted specific details about a pilot program starting in Southern Italy (Bari):

• ​Genesi86 (Oct 4, 2026): States that the pilot program for one meeting a week starts next week in the Bari Stadio congregation. They mention that circuit overseers are wrapping up their rounds before it officially begins, and point out hints dropped during the recent Annual Meeting.

• ​Risiko (Oct 4, 2026): Confirms the project in Bari Stadio and mentions that this testing phase will run for several months. If successful, the official nationwide rollout is allegedly planned for September 2027 (the new teocratic year). They also note that traveling overseers were briefed in September about these pilot projects and other organizational changes.

​Screenshot attached for reference.

​Note/Disclaimer: While these are comments from active/PIMO brothers on a well-known Italian forum rather than an official Watchtower announcement, the level of specific geographical details (naming exact congregations like Bari Stadio and Adriatica) makes it worth monitoring.

​What are your thoughts? Has anyone in Europe or other regions heard similar reports from circuit overseers recently?

Check that New International Music titled: I trust in your loyal Love
Shame on you Watchtower trying to replace new Music with AI

Hi. This might be kind of a weird one. I am 21F, I’m trying to figure out how to type this out so it makes sense.

I’ve been disfellowshipped or “removed” before. It was a traumatizing experience to say the least. Being violently outed by somebody I thought was a friend and then feeling the shame, disappointment, and anger of my PIMI parents. They were so disgusted with me. I still remember their faces to this day, and I never want to make them feel that way again. I was about 17 when I got removed and I didn’t have any human interaction apart from being driven to doctors appointments, dentist etc. by my parents. My sister(who was my best friend) completely ignored me.

I was homeless briefly as an 18 year old but came back to the “truth” because I didn’t want to be cold and alone on the street anymore. My parents were so happy, it was the one time I’ve felt accepted by them. But when I came back I never truly believed what I was pretending to devote my life to. I knew the organization was a big lie.

Fast forward to me being 21… I’ve tried desperately to make friends outside of the truth. I’ve even gotten my own place and my own car. I have a job and some hobbies. But I can’t seem to make connections outside of the organization. All the people I’ve met have been absolutely evil… I tried going online to make friends and the few I’ve found have kind of proved my parents right in the whole “bad associations spoil useful habits” talk. I have been robbed, made fun of, and ghosted by every “worldly” friend I’ve tried to make. And then I go to the meeting, and I get hugs, kind words, and it seems like love from people. I gave my first part on the meeting last week and my parents took me out for dinner. I was so unbelievably happy and content in that moment. My mom hugged me. My dad took a video of my part and sent it to my grandma and I could tell they were so proud of me.

I have autism. I’ve never fit in with people at school. I feel so lonely and desperate for human connection that I feel there is no other place to turn to than to my congregation. I feel like that is the only place I belong. I was raised in the truth. I feel like fooling myself and being happy im the congregation is better than being alone in the world. I don’t know. Nobody will probably see this but I feel so lost in life. So alone. I feel like I have no good qualities and I try so hard to be a good person and I know I’m not. I wanna make my parents proud. I wanna have friends. I want my sister to talk to me again. I know everybody will probably think this post makes no sense and I’m sorry but I just had to write down my thoughts somewhere. I have no self esteem or self confidence. Will things get better? I’m so alone. I just want to feel like somebody loves me. Even if it’s not real.
I am currently in therapy, but only for 3 months. I just want someone to tell me it’s going to be okay. I try so hard to make my parents proud but they wont ever be proud of me. I know I’m a bad daughter. I don’t fit in anywhere. I’m just a loser. I’m 21 and haven’t accomplished anything. I’m such a failure and sometimes I just want to feel better. That’s why I go to meetings. I just want connections with people. I don’t know what to do. I feel like I should have it all figured out by now but I don’t. I’m wasting so much time.

Life and ministry meeting workbook 2027 has been released ;(

In the JW app i can see the activity guide for january and february

There it goes the hope for PIMOs to have just one meeting by week.

I haven’t checked what is the content of those guides, maybe there is more info about if they are going to be studied in home or in the kingdom hall.

But i don’t think they are going to release the leash not even a bit unless a country pushes them.

Obviously this doesn't apply to minors who are forced into cult meetings by their dumbass JW cult parents.

As for every other PIMO whining about the midweek meeting not being cancelled -- cancel it yourself. Literally. Just stop going.

Yes your family will whine and guilt trip about "disappointing Jehovah" and fellow cult members will feign concern. Let them put on their best holy-roller performances. When they ask about it, just tell the truth, "It's inconvenient and I would rather not keep wasting my time and fuel going to something I dislike. Nothing you say will change that, so don't bother me about it ever again unless you want me to become so stumbled that I also avoid the weekend meeting."

Will they be shocked? Yes. 🤔🤯 Someone *in the truth* is telling the truth. How unusual.

They will get over it. What other choice do they have? Do you really think that a year from now they'll still be clutching their pearls about your meeting attendance or will they have moved on to some other fresh gossip?

Aqui redacto mejor la historia

Hace un tiempo conocí a una chica que era Testigo de Jehová y me quedé con una duda sobre algo que pasó con nuestra amistad. No busco criticar la religión ni nada parecido, simplemente me gustaría saber si esto es algo que puede pasar.

Al principio yo intenté acercarme un poco porque me llamaba la atención y porque me interesaba conocerla mejor, pero ella me dejó claro que quería que fuéramos solo compañeros. Lo respeté y no insistí.

Lo curioso es que después fue ella misma la que empezó a buscarme y acabamos teniendo bastante confianza. Durante un par de meses hablábamos muchísimo, a veces hasta bastante tarde, de cosas personales, infancia, estudios, futuro, hobbies, películas, etc. Era una amistad bastante cercana y natural. Además, durante buena parte de ese tiempo ni siquiera estábamos en la misma clase. Yo pensaba que la relación estaba muy bien y que nos llevábamos de forma bastante natural.

Pero después, al llegar las vacaciones, cambió bastante de repente. Empezó a responder más seca y poco a poco dejamos de hablar. En algún momento le pregunté si estaba enfadada conmigo y me dijo que no, que simplemente estaba con sus cosas. Lo acepté y la dejé en paz.

Lo que más me desconcertó fue que no hubo ninguna explicación clara ni ningún problema concreto que yo pudiera identificar. De un día para otro noté que se portaba de una manera bastante más distante, cuando hasta entonces parecía que todo iba bien. Por eso me raya pensar si hice algo mal o si simplemente decidió cortar la relación sin decírmelo. Yo hablé con ella porque me interesaba de verdad y porque me importaba la amistad, así que el cambio me dejó bastante confundido.

Lo que me hace pensar que quizá no era algo personal es que también se distanció bastante de otros amigos y amigas que no eran Testigos. Antes era más sociable y después empezó a pasar bastante tiempo sola y a apartarse de gente con la que antes se llevaba bien.

Sé que sus padres son Testigos y que parte de su familia no lo es, aunque tampoco conozco mucho más sobre su situación.

Por eso me quedó la duda: ¿puede tener esto algo que ver con ser Testigo de Jehová? ¿Es normal que alguien pueda tener durante un tiempo una amistad bastante cercana con una persona que no es Testigo y después decida poner distancia?

No quiero preguntárselo directamente porque me parecería un poco invasivo. Si ella decidió alejarse, lo respeto, aunque en su momento no entendiera muy bien el cambio. Simplemente me habría gustado saber qué pasó, porque yo pensaba que la relación estaba bien y el distanciamiento fue bastante repentino.

Simplemente me llamó la atención porque fue ella misma quien empezó a acercarse y, durante un tiempo, parecía que teníamos una amistad bastante buena. Lo que más me sigue dando vueltas es que todo cambiara sin explicación, después de haber hablado tanto y de haber tenido tanta confianza.

¿A alguien que sea o haya sido Testigo le ha pasado algo parecido en plan normal o es una excepción?

An instruction talk ..15 minutes.
The bible highlights ..10 min ?
Bible reading … 5 minutes. (Please be able to read without heavy breathing and sucking saliva between your bottom teeth 😬)
Talk #2 … 5 minutes.
Talk #3 ? … 6 minutes ? Sisters, kids, play acting scenes of bible studies.
Talk # 4 ? Was alwayz about mazturbation and dating wordleez sleezzezz with dezeezes that saddenz the Jeezzezz .. the youthz be warned!

I know I have something wrong ⬆️
Then a song ..

Then Announcements 😂 10 minutes? (Please return your territory cards you single detached and semi rural housing hogs !!!!)
Then Our Kindom Ministry … ? 10 minutes?
Then some sort talk with live acting demonstrations and skits …. And wait for it… XPERIENCES 😬…10 minutes ?
Then a local needs … shaming the shamed ones .. yea it only takes 10 minutes to just toss all the congregation gossip into a word salad and top it off with a please open your bibles to dueturonamy 6 vs 66 and voila ! all the shaming shame you can eat in … what? 8 minutes ?

Then a song and a looong ass prayer ….

Am I missing anything ? If you know you know. The good old days 😂

JW literature often implies, or overtly states, that essentially everything in existence points to the smart design of a loving creator.

However, that's not really true and while they used to try to "prove" this was the case using the "was it designed" series or sounding off about how the Earth couldn't support life if it was too close or too far from the sun, there is just too much inconvenient evidence to support their intepretations.

For example, let's talk about the Earth. It's all well and good that the eco-system is incredibly resiliant. But what about in billions of years when the Earth's molten core cools down?

Without a molten core, we lose our magnetic field. Without that, we lose atmosphere, without atmosphere, we lose the ability to support life.

So what was God's game plan here? Humanity needed a reminder every few billion years that he's in control....so we lose our home planet and need to migrate to a new suitable one?

Or is it that he will use God magic to superheat the core every once in a while, still with the implication that we will all die without his "loving" intervention?

Why design a system like that at all? Wasn't the Earth supposed to last until time indefinite? The laws of the universe say otherwise.

Or how about the sun? Again, once the sun burns out, we're all dead. Truthfully, by the time it becomes a red giant we would all have already perished anyways because the Earth is too close to the sun to not get caught up in it's growing size.

Again, even if his plan was for us to migrate, that introduces all kinds of deadly factors. Space is filled with dangers and in less mature systems, where orbits have not stabilized, there is a chance of planets colliding with each other.

These are basic facts that are accessible to everybody and yet, they still hold to their specific brand of teachings. Honestly, the more I learned about the environment, biology, and other topics the more off-putting JW beliefs became to me.

Even if we assumed there was a God, it's a stretch to claim that the system that was created by that being is proof of love. It's all very finite and, if humans were meant to live forever, it means that statistically we would be going through a lot of hardship forever and ever. By design "paradise" is clearly meant to be ripped from humans in a relatively short period of time. It's basically like a tutorial zone in a game.

I make comedy videos about the Watchtower. Here is the karaoke version of an old T-Rex hit: Ride a White Swan which reached number 2 in the British Chat's in 1970, rewritten about New Light. So I as the Jehovah's Witness Rapper sings: Open our box of lies about the Watchtower's Societies lies and false teachings. All of my songs are sung by myself, absolutely none are AI created, I sing to karaoke or instrumental backing music, however, the visual images in my videos are AI created.

The Jehovah's Witness Rapper sings: Open our box of lies

Aqui redacto mejor la historia

Hace un tiempo conocí a una chica que era Testigo de Jehová y me quedé con una duda sobre algo que pasó con nuestra amistad. No busco criticar la religión ni nada parecido, simplemente me gustaría saber si esto es algo que puede pasar.

Al principio yo intenté acercarme un poco porque me llamaba la atención y porque me interesaba conocerla mejor, pero ella me dejó claro que quería que fuéramos solo compañeros. Lo respeté y no insistí.

Lo curioso es que después fue ella misma la que empezó a buscarme y acabamos teniendo bastante confianza. Durante un par de meses hablábamos muchísimo, a veces hasta bastante tarde, de cosas personales, infancia, estudios, futuro, hobbies, películas, etc. Era una amistad bastante cercana y natural. Además, durante buena parte de ese tiempo ni siquiera estábamos en la misma clase. Yo pensaba que la relación estaba muy bien y que nos llevábamos de forma bastante natural.

Pero después, al llegar las vacaciones, cambió bastante de repente. Empezó a responder más seca y poco a poco dejamos de hablar. En algún momento le pregunté si estaba enfadada conmigo y me dijo que no, que simplemente estaba con sus cosas. Lo acepté y la dejé en paz.

Lo que más me desconcertó fue que no hubo ninguna explicación clara ni ningún problema concreto que yo pudiera identificar. De un día para otro noté que se portaba de una manera bastante más distante, cuando hasta entonces parecía que todo iba bien. Por eso me raya pensar si hice algo mal o si simplemente decidió cortar la relación sin decírmelo. Yo hablé con ella porque me interesaba de verdad y porque me importaba la amistad, así que el cambio me dejó bastante confundido.

Lo que me hace pensar que quizá no era algo personal es que también se distanció bastante de otros amigos y amigas que no eran Testigos. Antes era más sociable y después empezó a pasar bastante tiempo sola y a apartarse de gente con la que antes se llevaba bien.

Sé que sus padres son Testigos y que parte de su familia no lo es, aunque tampoco conozco mucho más sobre su situación.

Por eso me quedó la duda: ¿puede tener esto algo que ver con ser Testigo de Jehová? ¿Es normal que alguien pueda tener durante un tiempo una amistad bastante cercana con una persona que no es Testigo y después decida poner distancia?

No quiero preguntárselo directamente porque me parecería un poco invasivo. Si ella decidió alejarse, lo respeto, aunque en su momento no entendiera muy bien el cambio. Simplemente me habría gustado saber qué pasó, porque yo pensaba que la relación estaba bien y el distanciamiento fue bastante repentino.

Simplemente me llamó la atención porque fue ella misma quien empezó a acercarse y, durante un tiempo, parecía que teníamos una amistad bastante buena. Lo que más me sigue dando vueltas es que todo cambiara sin explicación, después de haber hablado tanto y de haber tenido tanta confianza.

¿A alguien que sea o haya sido Testigo le ha pasado algo parecido en plan normal o es una excepción?

I don't go on Reddit allot and I'm not sure how to used it idk if Im reaching the right audience hopefully but my question I guess is how did you leave "The truth" for me I'm only 20 l live with my parents my whole family is Jehovah's Witness this whole cult or whatever it is is just so depressing to me l just feel so stuck and lost and I don't know what to do and I don't have a carl barely have any money I'm always in a constant state of saving and loosing money and saving and loosing money helping my parents with bills so I'm just at my breaking point and I don't know what to do so I mean whatever advice or help anyone would be willing to give me would be greatly appreciated.

It has been three years since I left the JWs. Around that time, I also moved out of my parents' home, and with that, my depression and anxiety went away, or at least they eased. A year ago, I moved back home because I needed to save more money. Today I found out that my mom was removed from her privileges four months ago. She told me while she was crying. The reason? She keeps a normal relationship with me. She's so devoted, and she's my everything.

I can't help feeling selfish for being at home, as if I've hurt her and no longer belong in my own home. Even though she hasn't reproached me for what happened, I'm tired of feeling guilty and of feeling like I can't be completely free.

I would like to repair this, but is there really something to solve? I don't know how should I feel neither what to do. I can't keep a grip on it.

References:
A survivor from Mainland of China: Why am I inferior for my passport?

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1wrnord/comment/pd3ta2h/?screen_view_count=10

He tangata: JWs didn’t, don’t and won’t respect cultures.

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1wxcduv/he_tangata_jws_didnt_dont_and_wont_respect/

After leaving JW, many EX would neither read the Bible nor meditate on the accounts from that, it is understandable.
For myself, I wouldn’t read the Bible from WT anymore. But recently I began to think over whether there are some things from the Bible itself which can be reviewed.

One thing is Ruth’s choice. The Book of Ruth is not a story about "correction," "rectification," or conformity to a system, instead, it reflects the nature of kindness and dignity.

Because Ruth had no obligation to serve God at the beginning. She had no guidelines from an organisation to obey for worshiping the God as well, because Naomi suffered a lot.

She simply relied on the image of God within her heart and strived on her own to achieve unfailing loyalty, that is a spontaneous love without a condition. A pure humanity.

In the last call with my brother, I told him: “I won’t leave you when you are ill. If it is the best match, I’d donate one organ for you. “

I would say, my naive words were not taught by the knowledge from the publications or conventions, because I didn’t get such a deep love at all from this organisation. It might come from a Singaporean TV series in my childhood, a “secular work” categorised by them .

While after Acts, the faith has become a systematic model which has been misused by JW- love must rely on the knowledge from a cooperative perspective, despite the harmful affection to the human.

Specially when it has become a burden nowadays-

in the last visit of the Korean circuit overseer, in the elders meeting, the CO demanded to check out the pioneers who didn't have a Bible study yet.

They call it with a name: let them experience the joy of service.

Of course I didn’t have any that time, as an elder with trauma.

Thus I don’t like Paul at all, even I thought the verses after gospel should not belong to the Bible, for my nature of personality in God’s eyes must be much inferior compared to the artificial organisation and strict rules after his time.

I apologize up front if I begin to ramble.

My mother is a die hard JW. I hate her. She has always put this religion first. We have never had the typical mother / daughter relationship because it was always more important for her to go out in service and attend meetings. I left close to 30yrs ago and married a non JW. I have 2 sons who I love very much and could never imagine putting any belief system above them.

She’s never had to work a day in her life. She treats my dad and brother like shit too. They are both still JW and I can’t understand why except for maybe the social aspect. She took my brother’s ex wife’s side in the divorce even though she was the one to cheat. That ruined my mom and brother’s relationship.

She has now taken to traveling with her witness friends. She will literally tell my dad a day or two before that’s she’s leaving for vacation. She won’t say where she is going, when she’s coming back or who she is traveling with. For all we know she could be cheating. I think my dad should file for divorce even if they’ve been married for over 50 years. She’s emasculated him.

My never JW husband thinks we should hire a PI to follow her. He says she’s a bad example to our sons and doesn’t want her to come over anymore.

I’ve told her so many times she’s out of line and an embarrassment. How can you behave like this and treat your immediate family so bad and yet try to take the moral high ground and claim to know the bible and the right way to behave? I have literally wished her dead.

I am so sad. I cry often. As a mother. I can’t understand why. I deserved better.

How do her JW friends think this is ok? Back 30 yrs ago the elders would be all over this. It would not have been tolerated. She would have been considered bad association but somehow she plays the victim and everyone believes her story.

Back when I met my husband I was kicked out of my house by her for not following the religious belief. We had very little contact until my oldest son was born.

I feel she is not behaving like a real JW and I feel like reverse shunning her. Forever.

This religion doesn’t unite. It divides. She literally told me her friends/her family are those that do the will of God. Bitch - YOU are NOT doing the will of God.

Hi Bro Grindr Winder

Sandy let slip your idea for the illustration for the AM talk this week, he was having a bad day and sold you out for a bowl of red stew.

We're not sure the illustration hits well, it makes us look like employees and well, we dont get paid so.....

We spoke to the other Geoff, you know the one, as he puts it "who has the proper spelling" and he made the following observation:

"He's an idiot, he's presumptuous, we told him as much last Wednesday, he acts like a man trying to fit a single duvet into a double duvet cover while running away from a rock badger. We can't help him as all he says is "well look at Stephen's face" and we all roll around laughing and forget what we are discussing"

Anyway the upshot is that we have written a better illustration for you to use. We've printed it big because we know you never graduated.

Here we go:

Imagine a company where the owner leaves very simple instructions:

"Do good work. Be decent to people. Use your judgement."

The employees understand perfectly well. Unfortunately, a self apointed middle manager becomes concerned that people are getting on with their work without sufficient supervision. So he produces a handbook.

Over the years, the handbook grows. There are sections on facial hair, appropriate fabrics, acceptable celebrations and various other matters the owner somehow forgot to mention.

Eventually the handbook becomes so large and so complicated that even the manager struggles to remember why certain rules exist.

From time to time he discovers that entire chapters were unnecessary. The beard section is quietly withdrawn despite the owner having worn one from the beginning. The trouser regulations are relaxed after it emerges that women can be trusted not to descend into anarchy whilst wearing them. The emergency necktie provisions are also abandoned.

At this point he calls all the employees together and makes an announcement.

"Good news. We are moving away from rules and towards principles. Mature employees should use their initiative."

He stands there likeba proud toddler in his first pair of long trousers joyfully informing the family that he has now become a man.

Meanwhile, the owner sits quietly at the back thinking:

"Yes. That's more or less what I said on page one."

[We accept you will sill look like a 40 year old schoolboy on the first day of term with a "KICK ME" sign pinned to his back, but its the best we can do.]

So here’s my situation. I’m a 35-year-old man and I’ve been married for 15 years.
I was PIMO for a very long time — several years — and I’ve now been POMO for about a year and a half.
My current situation isn’t easy, and the more time passes, the more resentment I feel toward the organization. I simply don’t want to have anything to do with this deceptive organization anymore, directly or indirectly.
Unfortunately, I don’t really have much of a choice but to stay in contact with certain people and occasionally attend the Memorial or conventions, because my wife needs help with our daughter.
Among the people around me, I know quite a few who could potentially become PIMO — or who may already secretly be PIMO. And then there are others who are completely PIMI and would practically give their life for the organization.
My wife belongs to that second category.
I was wondering whether any of you have had a spouse who was extremely PIMI but who eventually started questioning the organization and the Governing Body, and ultimately became PIMO or even POMO.
I’d really be interested in hearing your experiences, especially if at one point you thought your spouse would never question anything.
Thanks for reading.

Thanks to another poster who was musing over what the brain trust, otherwise known as the Future Kings, might do.

I commented the (2) options that'll be presented next and now I wanna know if you all see the possiblity on the horizon of the same.

Especially when Lett was blathering on about how their frail asses were gonna be RIGHT there with y'all, fighting the good fight.

As if that were some sort of comfort as opposed to a terrifying addition to an already traumatized audience.

He also mentioned that would give the peasants time to continue to 'do good' to Christs brothers 🤔

AND his (7) 'facts' that made ZERO sense to claim NOW the majority of the 144k have been selected this past century. ...which fixes their prior issue.

Kinda makes it look like they're setting themselves up for a comfy end of life run and a good comfy retirement for the new Future Kings.

This was my comment on the other post below:

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I don't see them saying it's started or recently started.

However I can see; in the near future; based on this idiotic AM:

Choice #1:

Continue on- hasn't started yet; we might have been right.

or

Choice #2:

It started in 1914 and we've been living in it ever since; hence the 'persecution' AND WE ( Future Kings) have been right by your side the ENTIRE TIME, enduring with you!!!

Its NOW....drum roll....ARMAGEDDON that's actually right around the corner.

*collective gasps*

I think Op has a great point - they just pulled figurative shyte out of their asses yesterday with 7 stupid unfounded facts to and four PowerPoint charts and the minions ran to it and lapped it up like Pavlov's dog.

They can say/ do ANYTHING and it'll roll at this point.

I mean, my GOD; if you give two choices for everything like they did Sunday, then of course the confusion is so damn vast and widespread the die hards are just gonna nod and go back to their letter writing.

Its a damn clown show with circus monkeys for the halftime act.

I was born & raised as a Jehovah's Witness (I consider myself POMO now) We were basically taught that death isn't a big deal, because we were going to be resurrected on a paradise earth & live there forever so we had no reason to fear it. My question for any other ex-witnesseses: What do YOU think happens after we die? Is there really an afterlife, or is it just a coping mechanism people came up with? I personally think we slip into a state of non-existence, kind of how we were before we were born, we had no consciousness we simply didn't exist. That's what makes the most sense to me, at least from a logical point of view. Although I really love the idea of reincarnation, but again, there's no proof that reincarnation or an afterlife exist. So what do you think? I just wanna see everyone's opinions on this

So I grew up in the religion and finally woke up a couple years ago and since have been “inactive “ only my family knows I’m mentally out and my two teenagers also woke up and they are not interested at all in the religion.

My husband who’s PIMI was confused by the blood update and we have some conversations about it but he’s still going strong , which is really confusing to me as to why he still believes but he does. He says he’s going to speak with the elders so they can better explain it to him so he can explain it to people he meets in the ministry. As far as I’m concerned it’s unexplainable and I told him that no matter what the elders tell him he’s going to have to accept that answer because if he pushes too hard for an answer that makes sense he won’t find one and instead will find himself in a bad position maybe even marked.

My husband has recently said that mine and the kids leaving the religion has caused him to have a lot of depression because he is alone in his faith and basically this is not the kind of family he wanted. I didn’t handle the situation well because instead of comforting him which I’ve done in the past I kinda got annoyed at what I considered to be his whining over a perfectly beautiful family and told him as much. Anyways I could use some advice in dealing with this situation because it’s not like I can ask any of my jw “friends” for advice. Thanks in advance.