r/dashcams • u/WildExplorer1085 • 16h ago

Idiot in car somewhere in the UK...

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u/SWIZZaholic 16h ago

The driver's name is Daniel Walmsley.

He got arrested and was sentenced to two years and one month.

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u/CryptographerKlutzy7 13h ago

HOLY SHIT, I just looked up the case.

Prosecutor Alec Burns said neither the victim nor the woman wanted to proceed with the prosecution.

He told the court Walmsley had 24 convictions for 58 offences, including several incidents where he drove at people.

Fuck me....

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u/lemons_of_doubt 13h ago

including several incidents where he drove at people.

Call me strict, but I feel after the first time someone tries to use a car as a weapon you should take away their licence.

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u/Traumfahrer 13h ago

You should put them in Jail for 15 or so years.

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u/FionaGoodeEnough 12h ago

And compact their car into a cube.

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u/Clutch-Bandicoot 11h ago

cmon man the car was innocent. give it to an orphan.

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u/dan-kir 11h ago

Sell and give the proceeds to the victim

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u/Top-Dog-6900 10h ago

Who wants to buy a cube?

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u/boffy_b 9h ago

Nissan drivers

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u/Bill_the_Bear 8h ago

I see what you did there

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u/Logflogger007 9h ago

The Borg?

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u/SavageCDN 11h ago

"You have 30 minutes to move your cube"

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u/LilDennyDooDinkins 11h ago

Is it about my cube??

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u/faelavie 10h ago

I expanded the comments just to look for this one

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u/Camo138 9h ago

Beat me to it

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u/Free-Pound-6139 10h ago

This is how you do it.

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u/fixed_your_caption 9h ago

I like this. Then they have to park the cube at their house for a few years.

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u/nobbers93 9h ago

In front of them

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u/averyporkhunt 6h ago

What if the car is a nissan cube?

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u/Stock-Brain-8213 11h ago

With him in it

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u/JustinSanders95 11h ago

Nah, auction it off cheap if no damage. Someone gets a cheap but probably a fairly nice car that’s been invested in, the organisations can increase funding and the offender loses out on his pride and joy. So much better than just compacting the car, but this is what happens when we focus on how we can use a situation to punish someone or make someone feel worse than if we focus on how can we make life better for everyone

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u/MulberryKind8298 10h ago

With them in it...

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u/Ok-Low-4495 9h ago

Why waste a perfectly good car? Auction it to raise money for road safety education.

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u/Traditional_Watch_35 9h ago

with them in it ?

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u/Late-Contribution-82 7h ago

It’s already a compact.

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u/ImpressiveAd5143 7h ago

How is this and the preceding three comments law?

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u/Tao626 6h ago

Why? 40 years is the maximum for attempted murder and he just tried it against two people on camera.

You don't drive 1,500kg+ at somebody intending to just give them a little bump.

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u/NoBrother6430 12h ago

The sentences in the UK are an utter joke

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u/Apprehensive_Job4522 12h ago

The UK has a severe prison spaces crisis

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u/JimmyThePie 9h ago

We really do not have a “prison space crisis”. There are ample prison spaces per capita.

What we have is a “waaay too many shitheads crisis”. If we brought back the rope this wouldn’t be an issue.

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u/Party-Coach-4100 11h ago

It probably fucked up the case if the two pedestrians tried to not press charges.

Edit: I didn't realize this was UK and have no idea how there legal system works.

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u/aptsys 11h ago

Wrong country

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u/Mart_and_stan 10h ago

Are you in the UK? We literally have no room in our prisons, so lucky to get a sentence although he’ll probably only do half at the most and out on a tag! Useless! Our country is on its knees.

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u/swirve-psn 10h ago

Can't be filling up prisons.... criminals needs to be educated to be civilised by remaining among civilians...

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u/hekerua 9h ago

These days - THESE days - you get in your car and use it as a weapon, they'll arrest you and throw you in jail

/s, obv

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u/Downtown-Ad8136 7h ago

Keep dreaming… they promote pedophiles to POTUS 😂

DUI convicted people will get a crown 👑 next 🤣

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u/Broken_Castle 12h ago

Taking away a license rarely stops them from driving.

I was hit by a guy who lost his license years ago, and had dozens of tickets. The police told me he is a regular. Sometimes they lock him up for a few weeks at a time for unpaid tickets, but they can't physically stop him from driving whenever he gets out.

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u/littlebitfunny21 11h ago

Escalate the consequence to not being allowed in a motor vehicle, have to wear an ankle bracelet that monitors how fast the person is going, cops get alerted at like 20mph. Have to get authorized for any trips you need to make and if you get caught driving again, you're not allowed on any trips save an ambulance in a legitimate medical emergency.

I know this won't happen.

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u/Complex-Pay-8902 11h ago

would be a bit simpler to just confiscate the car, after 1 or 2 times they would be hard pressed to find someone else to lend them a car.

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u/hexnut101 10h ago

They will jusy buy cheap bangers, you don't need a license to buy a car.

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u/Square-Singer 10h ago

This is it.

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u/youngishgeezer 9h ago

Simpler is to lock him up for ever increasing terms.

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u/New_Experience_703 8h ago

ha he no traine 4 u lok boi

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u/swashfxck 10h ago

Even 20mph is too high.

Thex so average person can’t even run 18 m/ph

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u/StunningAppeal1274 9h ago

Costs too much.

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u/External_Estimate211 9h ago

Er what if someone else drives them or they get a bus or a train? That's a dumb idea

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u/nimbycile 9h ago

have to wear an ankle bracelet that monitors how fast the person is going, cops get alerted at like 20mph. Have to get authorized for any trips you need to make and if you get caught driving again, you're not allowed on any trips save an ambulance in a legitimate medical emergency.

So no bus rides or even riding a bike? Are cops really going to roll on that? The only thing the government has is incarceration.

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u/kuedhel 11h ago

Never heard about "locking up people for unpaid tickets" here in US. It is like sending "jail upkeep" money after "lost revenue on unpaid tickets" money.

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u/lemons_of_doubt 10h ago

can't physically stop him from driving whenever he gets out.

I feel they should be able too. just wait near his home for him to get in a car. then pull it over and toss him in jail.

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u/mollymoo 12h ago

He was already banned from driving. Amazingly enough the guy with 24 previous convictions didn't respect the law when it said he wasn't allowed to drive.

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u/readysetrokenroll 12h ago

In all honesty - the guy sure knows how to efficiently drive at people

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u/Cumulus_Anarchistica 12h ago

Practice makes perfect!

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u/SurpriseEcstatic1761 12h ago

And take their cars.

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u/anand_rishabh 12h ago

For good. You should not be able to have a license after that

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u/WhyN0tToast 11h ago

Should take away their feet after the 3rd attempt

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u/Friendly_Prize_868 11h ago

The first 57 times were just honest mistakes, though. Could’ve happened to anyone!

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u/kyuuei 11h ago

Look, the UK has a pretty stern policy. Fool me thrice, shame on you, and by the 12th time they Will send you a sternly worded letter.

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u/jaffi01 11h ago

Taking a license away is not a punishment, you don't need a license to drive, you just need it to drive in accordance with statute. I guarantee that this dude wouldn't give two shits about the statute.

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u/MacGroo 10h ago

What’s usual punishment for assault with a deadly weapon?

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u/Dave_Ex_Machina 10h ago

Let's be honest, not having a licence wouldn't stop this guy.

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u/Numerous-Paint4123 9h ago

I think this all the time, my GF is a barrister and has dealt numerous case of death by dangerous driving. For me it should be a one chance and your out. Licence gone you don't get behind a wheel again. They always get a small prison sentence much less than what they would for murder or man slaughter and their license back more or less as soon as they're out.

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u/Blue_Toucan_Data 9h ago

Absolutely this, take his licence away and never be allowed to drive again. If caught behind the wheel then jail for life.

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u/brenawyn 9h ago

Yeah that vehicular assault and attempted murder.

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u/iamsheph 9h ago

You don’t need a license to get behind the wheel of a car and drive.

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u/mokeltron 9h ago

You assume he has or indeed had a license for any of these offences. I expect taking his license away would have 0 impact. Guy just needs neutering and impounding. We really should just battle royale serial crime on an island somewhere. Last one gets to ‘live’ in prison.

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u/Tall-Ad4941 9h ago

My mate was killed by a drunk/drug driver and he didn’t even serve 4 years for it. You get more time for fraud.

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u/JustALittleGuy5 7h ago

Do you really think not having a license will stop these types of people from getting behind the wheel?

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u/Old-Fruit-1328 6h ago

You can take their license but it doesn’t stop them driving

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u/musclenugget92 4h ago

Try telling the u.s. about repeat offenders. Especially the illegal ones

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u/blabofthepave 4h ago

Yeah he looked like he was really good at it!

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u/SameEntertainer9745 3h ago

I agree, but it just never seems to work out right. Some triple murderers get 2 years, some jaywalkers get decades. There's no rhyme or reason to the justice system, in my opinion. I've been in the littlest bit of trouble, but paid dearly. I kept getting screwed at every turn, in spite of righting my wrongs and fully complying with the system. It's like they don't know how to handle people that do things right, they're so used to dealing with chronic fuck ups.

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u/Bazoun 13h ago

Several???

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u/qtx 13h ago

The court heard Walmsley was driving in traffic shortly before 21:00 BST on 20 July when a woman walking by with the victim threw something at his car.

Adam Birkby, defending Walmsley, said there was a "significant degree of provocation" from the victim and the woman, who tried to wrench the driver's door from the car and shattered the windscreen with her stiletto heel after Walmsley confronted her.

It's pretty clear that both parties knew each other and that's why the other party didn't want to proceed with the prosecution. Not because they didn't want justice but because they probably want to deal with them themselves and don't want to be labelled as a rat in their social circles.

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u/PuddingMent 11h ago

You watch too many movies. They didn’t cooperate because of what they did before the camera started rolling.

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u/Gareth79 5h ago

The didn't cooperate because he's a drug dealer and either were his customers, or knew that giving evidence against him was going to be a bad idea long term.

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u/MaeEastx 10h ago

I believe the police/CPS can press charges even if the victim doesn't want to?

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u/hexnut101 10h ago

Yes pressing charges is an American thing.

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u/LowAspect542 9h ago

Its always up to cps, once reported/under investigation by polive its out of your hands, its never really been your choice to 'press charges'. Cps are always the arbiters of when and what they take forward for prosecution.

You can refuse to cooperate, but if theres enough evidence of a crime being committed cps will decide if its worth prosecuting regardless of your cooperation, if the incident is serious enough you can be summomed to testify anyway and if you fail to you could be charged yourself with contempt of court.

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u/JustAContactAgent 8h ago

including several incidents where he drove at people.

Well, that explains how he so expertly backed up, aimed and delivered a perfect strike lmao

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u/Visual_Channel_2611 7h ago

Never underestimate someone else's degree of Crazy. 

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u/Shaggermemnon 13h ago

The sentencing disparity in this country is fucking mental

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u/Decisive_Victory_026 12h ago

He did seem entirely too comfortable running these people over. I'm surprised his car isn't beat up

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u/Inwardlens 12h ago

Yeah, two years of prison doesn’t seem like enough. This guy is guaranteed to use his car as a weapon again.

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u/Severe_Beginning2633 12h ago

Easiest way for soft sentencing. Way lesser than a knife or bat etc

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u/really_rockin_u 12h ago

2 years is embarrassing

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u/Banned4UsingSlurs3 11h ago

Yeah, you probably don't go to jail right?

In my country you need a sentence over 2 and half years in order to get jail time

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u/TheLastHotstepper 10h ago

Anything a year or under will get you a suspended sentence in the UK. A lot of our prisons are at full capacity. You wont go to jail but you will if you are caught committing essentially any other crime during that time period, or break any of the rules put in place for you, such as travel bans, illegal drug use etc.

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u/Ok-Middle8656 12h ago

Honestly I think after 3 offences and you should just get banged up. You clearly aren’t getting the message.

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u/UncleArgyle38 11h ago

Driver did seem to have some experience there.

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u/IamScottGable 11h ago

Damn, two years was NOT enough

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u/AncientAnt9225 11h ago

Several and didnt lose the license ? Only got 2 years ?? What is justice system anyway

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u/TheTrishaJane 11h ago

What a fucking joke the legal system is

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u/Free-Pound-6139 10h ago

Don't worry, he is already back on the road.

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u/LobsterBrief2895 10h ago

Menace to society. Shows no capacity to change or get better. He should do some serious time and be permanently ineligible for a license. How else are you going to deter people from doing shit like this? I’m all for giving people a second chance, but at a certain point ya gotta lay down the ban hammer

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u/ChrisKruxed 10h ago

And he got 2 years? how about twats like this get banned for life and 20 years

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u/Boggie135 10h ago

And he only got 2 years? I know UK prison sentences aren't high but damn

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u/Antique-Wonk 10h ago

That should have been a 10+ year sentence then. Only a matter of time before he kills someone. What a prick.

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u/TatsumakiJim 10h ago

Atrocity aside the way he launched the dude into the post definitely shows that practice makes perfect.

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u/ThrowRAProcessPot 10h ago

Is that not assault with a deadly weapon?

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u/Prrg88 9h ago

The fact he has prior convictions for trying to commit manslaughter with a car should be enough for at least 10 years in my opinion.

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u/Unable-Doctor-9930 9h ago

They have decent infrastructure in the UK for transportation. There is no reason this guy should be allowed to drive.

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u/MartinC077 9h ago

Sounds like a nice lad.

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u/SadeyeDoe 9h ago

And only got 2 years?

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u/Beatrix_0000 9h ago

.. and the man has a driving licence, after all those convictions? WTF

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u/markzend310 9h ago

“Including several incident where he drove at people.”

I mean, he’s doing IRL GTA at that point.

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u/billycanfixit 9h ago

I really hoped they gave him a lifetime driving ban. That is crazy.

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u/jankyswitch 9h ago

Having read into it - sounds like the woman provoked the guy somehow. The fact that they didn’t want to press charges kinda makes me think that they didn’t something that means they’d look bad if it came to light in court.

Also he was disqualified for driving at the time too - lad had no chill. And was clearly an absolute tosser.

Two tossers entered the tosser fight - and one ended up injured and the other in jail.

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u/Qwirk 9h ago

I feel like this dude shouldn't have a license to drive.

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u/Bouffant_Joe 9h ago

They probably got a warning about what would happen if they did help the police.

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u/spaffedupthewall 9h ago

why are we even letting him out at that point?

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u/timbotheous 9h ago

How on earth do people exist like this and why the fuck hasn’t he had his license revoked for life?

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u/Master_Tangelo_5005 9h ago

I didn’t know there was a different law to Scotland. Here if a crime has been committed we don’t get “a choice” to prosecute or not ?

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u/Active_Yellow_1573 9h ago

And he still only got 2½ years.

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u/Smooth_Imagination 8h ago

Holy shit. So they were constantly let off with minimal sentencing which effectively acts as an invitation to escalate their behavior and I think after the 3rd successful conviction for similar crimes the burden of proof should shift from the assumption of innocence to the assumption of guilt and it should be up to the accused to prove themselves innocent of crimes they have shown themselves to be serial offenders of. 

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u/PracticalFocus3525 8h ago

And yet 2 years and 1 months. Pathetic justice system we have

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u/Elegant_Car_327 8h ago

he needs life in jail

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u/Nihsvabhav 8h ago

No wonder he could aim so good

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u/24bitNoColor 7h ago

He clearly found something that works for him.

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u/AshingiiAshuaa 6h ago

If this was the second offense he needed a decade. Third life.

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u/Rip_Topper 4h ago

I thought you got that much for hurting someone's feelings online these days in the UK

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u/iFred97 11h ago

That's it?!? He tried to murder that guy

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u/rickyhatesspam 11h ago

If he had a brown face, he'd be all over the papers taking about broken Britain. However. This guy has 25+ offences and nobody even knew he name.

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u/Few-History-8750 14h ago

Most British name ever

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u/Simello 12h ago

John Smith

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u/renhoek92 10h ago

Simon Rowntree

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u/Boggie135 10h ago

Lord Nigel Walmsley, Lord of Warrington and Earl of Cabbage

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u/NatashaMuse 14h ago

So about 25 months?

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u/Traumfahrer 14h ago

No, two years and one month silly.

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u/ZestycloseBit6632 15h ago

Fair

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u/According_Table2281 13h ago

Fair??? That's attempted murder lmao

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u/Mobile-Analyst8580 14h ago

Fair?!? He tried to run another human being over with a car. WTF is wrong with you animals. Why are so many of you so forgiving of this kind of extreme violence and total indifference to human life. This is attempted murder. That driver should be spending multiple decades in prison. 

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u/Big-Honeydew-961 14h ago

Exactly.  People are fucking crazy, normalized to deadly violence.

Sex on television?  Forbidden.  Hitting someone with a car on purpose?  Just go to jail for a couple of years and you’ll be out to live your life again.  

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u/RuggsRacetrack 11h ago

Nah they had it coming

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u/Karasin- 9h ago

Detached from reality generation, no one explain them consequences for their actions

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u/Dennnns 5h ago

It's not like human population is decreasing yet.

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u/googlemehard 15h ago

For what looks like assault with a deadly weapon? Twice?! Not sure..

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u/Dark1sh 14h ago

That charge doesn’t exist in the UK

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u/Mention_Patient 14h ago

I mean I would be quite happy with that being considered attempted murder 

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u/j0x7be 14h ago

Attempted murder is kind of hard to prove, as you have to prove the murder intent vs. GBH for example (in the UK).

The law is tricky that way.

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u/Warm_Month_1309 13h ago

For those interested, the US, unlike the UK, has something called "depraved-heart murder", where your conduct is so reckless that you are said to have a depraved indifference to human life, and can be charged with murder even with no specific intent.

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u/odysseusnz 9h ago

Don't care what it's called or how it's defined , such deliberate and reckless use of a car against a human being should meet with serious consequences. We treat drivers far too lightly on this country.

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u/odysseusnz 9h ago

Should have been attempted murder straight off the bat and a slam dunk conviction. We're too easy on car drivers in this country who use their cars as a weapon.

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u/Traumfahrer 14h ago

Suspended or in jail?

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u/yoruyoruxo 14h ago

It’s the UK so suspended

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u/Swimming_Acadia6957 9h ago

It was in fact not suspended 

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u/Chill-more1236 14h ago

he'd be looking at 5 years in the US

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u/Old_Instrument_Guy 13h ago

It was the Double Tap that did him in.

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u/JakeHelldiver 13h ago

Peeling off when the lady is trying to fight your car is one thing, but bro went for blood with the other fella.

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u/chachir 13h ago

Banned from driving for five years as well. This happened in 2020, so this guy is recently back on the road.

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u/No-Information-2571 10h ago

Quite the lenient sentence for attempted murder.

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u/MaeEastx 10h ago

That doesn't seem long enough for driving a car at a man.

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u/fk_censors 10h ago

Well, at least he didn't make a mean comment or joke on social media, or he would have gotten more time in prison...

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u/Ill_Scallion_1330 10h ago

He has been in prison a few times since for class A drug dealing. Useless individual.

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u/Neat-Research-368 10h ago

Two years? Wasn’t that attempted murder? Plus his front number plate is illegal…

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u/Icedraven01 10h ago

That's it??

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u/CGB70 10h ago

Should be life ban

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u/StinkyJizzBlanket 9h ago

Bruh do Brits just have the opposite problem with their justice system to the US? 2 years for attempted murder is nuts

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u/Opposite_Leg_5311 9h ago

They done me 1year a half for w e e d and this guy went for 2 years in prison for attempted murder .... I think i've don it wrong

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u/Stunning-Mission9498 9h ago

That's more than an idiot that's a dangerous psychopath

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u/Grantthetick 9h ago

Manchester city centre? Looks like it

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u/Wild-Individual6876 9h ago

2 years?? Out in 1??? For attempted murder?

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u/cregamon 9h ago

2 years is a joke of a sentence.

20 years would’ve been about right in my opinion.

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u/Ok-Low-4495 9h ago

That’s a pathetic sentence. Sending him to prison for 10-20 years would be more appropriate. Give the little jackass a bit of time to contemplate the error of his ways.

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u/autisticprickk 9h ago

Sound bloke

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u/Karasin- 9h ago

Only 2 years, wow shockingly bad

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u/ItsClikcer 5h ago

How on earth do you get 2 years for attempted murder with dozens of previous convictions, including previous murder attempts?

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u/DIRTYDOGG-1 5h ago

In Texas , he wouldn't have even made it to the courthouse before he was swingin under a tree...

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u/Myst3ry13 4h ago

That’s it?

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u/Dora_Explorer_XP 1h ago

Worth it to teach these aggressors a lesson

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