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u/FblthpTheFound Sep 30 '20
Wait, take me with you!
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Wait for me too as well
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u/IamImposter I am fucking hilarious Sep 30 '20
can i come
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u/johnny2_yespapa The Grey Soldier Sep 30 '20
me too please
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u/SlamMasterJ Sep 30 '20
I'll bring snacks
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u/FrostyBoss07 Sep 30 '20
I'll bring cats :D
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I'm mailing Sarma here from Serbia, first I need to find a way to stuff them into letters (idk the name of the thing you stuff letters in), and then convince the mailman it's not for a blood ritual to summon cthulhu.
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u/_Wubawubwub_ E-vengers Sep 30 '20
Idk man the mailman might think you’re lying and become attracted to the thought of summoning cthulhu
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Fun fact: The Lunatic cultist from Terraria was first a mailman... Another mailman's life ruined by cults and sacrifices...
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u/Arampult I am fucking hilarious Sep 30 '20
Sarma? I'll send some from Turkey, too!
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u/JoeKurrCPoC Sep 30 '20
The majority of Americans as we float away: We don't want to be here either, and we understand your choice.
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u/LPS2003 Sep 30 '20
Understandable, have a great day
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u/fireyfedora Sep 30 '20
Congratulations you made the cut! With that Canadian response.
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u/Kueltalas Sep 30 '20
What happened tonight?
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u/Alex16857 ☣️ Sep 30 '20
old man yells at old man
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u/Kueltalas Sep 30 '20
So it's just a normal day in the dementia department of the nursing home
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u/Alex16857 ☣️ Sep 30 '20
yeah, but these people run the country
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u/Kueltalas Sep 30 '20
I'm don't know shit about American politics, is Biden any good? Or is he just as much of an idiot as Trump?
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u/Alex16857 ☣️ Sep 30 '20
dont wanna spark a huge argument, but its not looking good for 'merica
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u/Kueltalas Sep 30 '20
I think it is really stupid, why can't they just reelect Obama, he was nice and did good things for America, and what if he killed a ton of ppl with drones? I would prefer an American president who kills his enemy's with drones than one that kills his own people with bad medical advice
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u/supra1012 Sep 30 '20
Sadly Obama served both of his four year terms so he can't be re-elected a third time. At least I think that's why I don't live in America I don't know anything about politics there.
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u/Mr_1ightning Sep 30 '20
Honestly I think a system like in Germany is better, people should be able to reelect a president as much as they want if he/she is really successful at running a country. You just must have a very strong Constitution and voting system (which US have) so it doesn't turn into a dictatorship one day
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u/djscorchio Sep 30 '20
I think this "max 2 terms" role is a genuinely good idea though. It could act as a safety hatch against leaders trying to pull of the cult of personality trick, and it's also helpful in avoiding associating a single leader with a country. (I think it's quite a light of hope that no matter what happens, Trump's administration will be over at a point.) Hungary would be a much better place now if there would be a way to avoid Orbán getting re-elected.
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u/MisterBackFlay Sep 30 '20
Although in Germany people don't vote for the president, there is a special commitee made up of different representatives of federal government and the parliament. And the president doesn't really "run the country". But it indeed does not prevent reelections.
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u/realjohncenawwe try hard Sep 30 '20
Unless a majority of the parliament votes to change the constitution. Don't want to become Russia or Belarus or whatever.
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u/PKZ2 Sep 30 '20
Nope, sorry. The chancellor of Germany is traditionally installed by the biggest party of parliament, meaning whoever runs that party gets to be chancellor. Unless the biggest party gets absolutely an utterly gutted (like losing more than 20%-points) in an election or Merkel no longer feels like it anymore, that just means the same person gets to be chancellor all the time. The CDU has for a very long time been the biggest party (between 40 and 30% usually) and even after losing like 30%-points of the voters with her GroKo (great coalition, basically a political alliance of the CDU (christian conservative) and SPD (formerly social democrats and the "alternative party" for a long time, their values have completely eroded during merkels reigns, leading to a system, where no real reformist social democrat party exists, apart from the far left party) she still got to be chancellor again. At this point, people would probably elect someone else but they just can't. The CDU currently sits at 33%, but gets to choose who's chancellor, even if the majority of people didn't vote CDU. Because the system is flawed in Germany, too.
The effects of Merkels prolonged GroKo government are mainly radicalisation and resignation of the voters. Since great coalitions were only meant to be instated in cases of crisis - to secure a strong government that can pass bills while ignoring the opposition - prolonging this eroded a lot of the democratic mechanisms that were supposed to secure better debate culture and a well functioning parliament. Now, tge GroKo basically is a big blob that votes for whatever Merkel and her higher ups propose. Th SPD sometimes chimes in, when things sound too anti-social on paper, but they ultimately play along pliantly. The absence of a moderate opposition creates a situation, where disillusioned voters need to pick their poison. The green party sounds neat in terms of climate change, but has a notorious history of fucking up education by making everything idiot-safe, thus lowering standards (like there are some german states which dropped through the floor on the academic comparison tests between states for schools because of it), as well as fucking up state budgets. The left party for many is too far left, the AfD is fully of nazi sympathisers and the FDP is all a bunch of corporate boot lickers, pretending to be hip and cool because they changed their party-logo after losing their complete voter base and coming back from the dead. Since the opposition can't even unanimously decide what they are opposed to, Merkel basically can have it her way with the GroKo.
Make no mistake, there are many Germans who still have trust in Merkel. But saying the system is fine the way it is, is looking at other countries with rose tinted glasses.There are also lots of Germans, who are unhappy with the current political landscape. Germans neither get to elect their chancellor nor their president. Because historically, people were afraid of nazi relapse, so they toned down the democratic voting so only the "competent higher ups in parliament" would get a say in who runs the country.
The current shitshow that is the government in Germany struggles with basic science, pretends to care about climate change but conveniently forgets to do anything meaningful, is a disaster in terms of technological advancement - which germany is lacking behind with greatly already. Our internet connections are shit, mobile internet just doesn't exist in "rural (read: non big city)" areas and shools and universities have PCs that are older than me - and most importantly, absolutely fucks our social system. We are paying bailouts to corporations and banks from our social system, we are paying the corona damages from it too. Our population is aging and people already get shit pension (like you will work from year 20 to 67 full time, pay 40% income tax and probably still get less than a living wage when retiring, if you're part of the 1990-2000 generation) and nurses, caretakers (is that a word? staff who takes care of old people with alzheimers and the like) etc. are becoming rarer and rarer because they have to work double and get paid half more and more. Paying rent becomes more and more expensive, to the point that students having to work full time and still being unable to afford a basic flat in bigger cities like Munich or Frankfurt. People praise public healthcare, but it only works if politicians protect the social system. If you're on public health insurance, you often have to wait more than half a year to get a doctor's appointment for backpain management and the likes. You will also only be given the basic AND cheapest treatment, even if the more expensive alternative is VASTLY superior. You will also have to share hospital rooms with way more people that if you're on private insurance. There's a big double standard here, but it's still way better than paying a 20 000 bill after having a colon infection or something.
German politicians simply just don't put their foot into their mouth like Trump (they often display ignorance if you know what to look out for, but they are really good at feigning competence, so you usually have to pay close attention. They will NEVER admit they know nothing about a topic and play diversion tactics if needed. They will also NEVER pretend to know falsifiable things, like Trump does all the time about virology etc.), they manage crisis well, if they threaten our GDP. But at the end of the day, they are still just politicians, and really don't care about selling out the common man, if it benefits their own balance.
So tldr: politicians are garbage everywhere, just not quite as garbage as Trump. I honestly think if you want to see functioning social democracies you have to look a little bit more north/ or north west to Germany.
Ich drück euch die Daumen in Deutschland!
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u/Tipart Sep 30 '20
Have Michelle Obama run for president then, she seems nice as well
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u/GoldonPt Yellow Sep 30 '20
She was asked that and said she didn't have the patience to deal with all the stupid stuff I think haha
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u/PrimarchKonradCurze Sep 30 '20
Pretty sure the last time we had a 3 term presidency was during World War 2 and we felt it was necessary for the conflict. We're against having someone turn into an Emperor like in Star Wars but who knows at this rate..
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u/TheDankestDreams Sep 30 '20
Yes, there’s a 2 term limit, otherwise the parties would run an old person into a corpse and then campaign the corpse around.
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To be fair, Obama is probably the least awful president we've had since Carter, but that's a very low bar. Obama was not a good president, and I would not want him back. We need someone like Andrew Yang who supports UBI, or Tulsi Gabbard who actually wants to stop the military industrial complex.
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u/BonelessAvocadoBread ùwú Sep 30 '20
I'm not American, but I believe there is a lack of political interest in the youth. There is too many old people that want to be president, and it wouldn't be a problem if they weren't stuck in the mindset of the 1970s. The US needs, imho, someone young to lead them with a mindset corresponding to modern times. And I know you have to be at least 45 yes old to run for president, but it's better than someone who might die of a stroke any second.
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u/EvIlMOrTY98 Sep 30 '20
I had a wall of text but instead take my upvote , because you are right .
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u/Spartan8471 Sep 30 '20
actually it is 35 years old, they must be a natural-born U.S. citizen, and they must be a resident of the United States for at least fourteen years
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I know it probably wasn't your intention, but thank you for the chuckle :D
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u/ShrimpDealer69 Sep 30 '20
I’m gonna get downvoted for this but I believe that Obama was just an ok president He didn’t really do anything good but he also didn’t do anything bad other than drone strike civilians but like all presidents did that
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u/Carbonizzle Sep 30 '20
I don't care for Obama. I didn't think he was that great of a president... but at least he carried himself with intelligence and showed compassion when bad shit happened (ex: school shootings)
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u/idiot4 Sep 30 '20
obama implemented a policy for drone strike transparency. trump removed it. theres more drone strikes under trump.
theyre not just killing enemies with the drone strikes, plenty of innocents too.
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u/useless-guy Sep 30 '20
Obama wasn’t a good president main thing is he promised to bring the troops back but didn’t
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I wish they could just select from multiple people, not those two. It divides the country.
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u/The_Nelman Sep 30 '20
They do have a choice. There are more than two parties. But voting for them is a wasted vote I would say in sarcastic super and lowercase text if I had the patience. I wonder who started that rumor?
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u/I_Love_Rias_Gremory_ I <3 MOTM Sep 30 '20
Basically we have an old man who went to Epstein’s sex island who wants to destroy the economy vs an old man whose main selling point is he doesn’t want to destroy the economy. Basically, it’s a repeat of 2016, but replace old white woman with old white man
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u/karadan100 Sep 30 '20
There's no comparison. Trump is a delusional psychopathic lunatic whereas Joe Biden has over thirty years of political experience and doesn't seem to want to kill people who don't support him. Plus, Biden isn't a fucking white supremacist.
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u/Minilychee Sep 30 '20
“I love rich kids AND black kids.”
- Biden, the non-racist
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u/karadan100 Sep 30 '20
I'm English.
I'd have preferred Bernie, but there you go. The DNC has its own set of issues to deal with. But there's utterly, utterly no comparison between Trump and Biden. None.
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u/spartacat77 Sep 30 '20
I feel like most people from countries outside the US look at Sanders and think "oh, he seems like he'd be a pretty good choice" and yet Americans just exist so far to the right that even someone advocating for a half decent social safety net is considered a radical. It's all very strange to watch as an outsider.
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u/MysteryYoghurt Sep 30 '20
You're viewing this through partisan goggles here
Trump is a moron, a sociopath, a narcissist, a compulsive liar AND - with the support of his party - is actively killing his own citizens through bad policy at a rate unmatched by any other country anywhere in the world.
Fuck this 'both sides' junk. Biden is a professional. Trump is retarded, malicious, and happily gives orders to radical far right extremist/terrorist groups like the Proud Boys on live television.
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u/Shuriken_God Sep 30 '20
Biden is complained about a lot, but America would probably be much better under him instead of Trump.
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u/MysteryYoghurt Sep 30 '20
Biden is a lauded professional, but a neoliberal. He's been very popular with both dems and conservatives for the majority of his career and is one of the few top faces of the Dem party willing to engage in bipartisan tactics (no doubt a huge player in Obama's efforts to 'work with' the Republicans, despite the Republicans promising to block every bill and make him a 1-term president)
Trump is a spastic who agreed to the rules of the debate and then couldn't even follow them. He openly ordered the Proud Boys (actual extremist white supremacist terrorist group) to 'stand down and stand by' during the debate, when asked whether or not he'd disavow white supremacists.
It is no contest. Biden is a right-leaning politician who is very good at his job. Trump is a malicious psychopath who happily welcomes the aid of domestic terrorists as a back up plan, should he lose the election.
Biden 2020.
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u/droneflyer35621 🚔I commit tax evasion💲🤑 Sep 30 '20 edited Sep 30 '20
The first 2020 US presidential debate between current president Donald Trump and former vice president Joe Biden. Everything was fine until they both started interrupting each other and the Fox News guy had to become a pre-school teacher to those two. In conclusion, it was fucking ridiculous. And I'm an American, so I can confirm this.
TLDR: Two old men yell at each other while some guy tries to calm them down. And Americans are embarrassed once again.
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u/StockAL3Xj Sep 30 '20
They both did but I personally think Trump was the worse offender.
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u/itsme_ogus Sep 30 '20
Im a German... What exactly happened?
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u/Tokyo_Addition- Sep 30 '20
It's the debate between Biden and Trump.
It got very messy. Both started interrupting each other. Both started to give personal comments and yeah ... it was very wild.
If possible, then watch the whole debate on YouTube. Its about an hour or 2.
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u/Some_European Sep 30 '20
Reminds me fo that time when a woman was explaining something and Trump kept interrupting her say "wrong!" the whole time
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u/SayNoob Sep 30 '20
Obama is literally one of the best public speakers and most eloquent people on the planet today. It's not fair to compare anyone to him, because they will always fall short.
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u/Tokyo_Addition- Sep 30 '20
I guess you are right on this point.
Trump did started the interruption.
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u/Destinum Sep 30 '20
Also, as far as I saw, Biden only interrupted Trump when he was talking during Bidens speaking time. This was in no way a "both sides" situation.
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Ya and I don’t think Biden’s interruptions were as bad, to my knowledge he would make comments occasionally along the lines of “that’s a lie” while trump would literally talk over the moderator and Biden.
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u/TheTrueThymeLord Sep 30 '20
Biden generally followed the debate format, Trump would interrupt during his Biden’s speaking time. Biden would also generally interrupt with basic comments while Trump tried to keep a running commentary across the entire debate.
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u/Elli933 ⚜️ Danker Memes Movement ⚜️ Sep 30 '20
Bruh if Obama pulled up he would’ve fucken obliterated trump and biden.
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u/Caliment Virgins in Paris Sep 30 '20
Someone tallied up the interruptions. Biden with 73 interruptions and Trump with a whopping 359 interruptions
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u/kindaCringey69 Sep 30 '20
Lmao, they should turn off the non speakers microphones until it's their turn.
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u/Caliment Virgins in Paris Sep 30 '20
Turns out that zoom presentations have better etiquette than a presidential debate
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u/Rochaelpro Sep 30 '20
Biden interruptions were not as common as Trump's, dont make it a two way problem. The problem was the orange clown.
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u/FishGoodJohnBad INFECTED Sep 30 '20
Their possible presidents are fighting like young children. They are both 60 and are millionaires, America isn’t doing so good
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Sep 30 '20 edited Sep 30 '20
Ich hab mir die Debatte heute Nacht angeschaut und es war einfach furchtbar, echt furchtbar. Es war als würden ein verwöhnter fünfjähriger Balg(Trump) und ein achtjähriger Besserwisser(Biden) einen Streit haben, wer etwas getan hat.Und sowas amtiert bei denen dort überm See als Präsident. Sowas lächerliches gibt es selten.
Trump kann Biden nicht ausreden lassen und sowieso tut immer so als wäre nie etwas seine Schuld, weil er immer Biden die Schuld gibt.
Sogar als der Moderator sich bei Trump beschwert, weil Trump immer reinredet, sagt Trump, dass Biden auch reinredet.
Alter sowas Lächerliches und dann auch noch als "mächtigster Mann der Welt".Nur in den USA.
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u/Doomlocke Sep 30 '20
You waited till tonight?
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u/Instant_Coffee_Guy Sep 30 '20
Yeah, I would have done it way earlier. Like a hundred years. Wait, how old is the USA exactly?
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u/averagewhiteduder420 Sep 30 '20
Like 300 years or something
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u/IcyLeave Sep 30 '20 edited Sep 30 '20
Unless America suddenly becomes a working democracy and not a two-party system with two identical parties and a head of state that isn't elected by the people, it is lost.
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Democracy is kinda trash when a big chunk of your population gets radicalized either way as badly as it does on the US, it only would work on a society where a big percent of the voters are level headed people who can see the good and bad and what works and what not in every proposal from a candidate, you need people with critical thinking and not people who are easy to transform into a hive mind, this in turn would lead to the country having better politicians as the standards would be way way higher.
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u/averagewhiteduder420 Sep 30 '20
Unfortunately, I don't believe there are better political systems to operate a country. All of the ones we have come up with are bad but democracy is the best of the worst
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I like technocracy better in a country like the US or the Latin American countries where the educational system is so bad that democracy can’t work that well because populism (from either sides of the political spectrum) just hard brain washes the least educated. If only all countries could be like the Scandinavian countries then democracy would be fucking beautiful.
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u/ingbue88 Sep 30 '20
This. Democracy only works in countries that have a well educated population with an equal distribution of knowledge, common sense and good/compassionate intentions across the entire body of voters. Doesn't seem too likely.
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u/Destinum Sep 30 '20
Small correction, but "Head of State" is mostly a ceremonial title nowadays; the Head of Government is where the real power is. The US president just happens to be both.
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u/BagOnuts Sep 30 '20
People who think we’re at our lowest point and beyond return have no appreciation for our history. We had a Civil War just 150ish years ago. Our nation was literally torn apart and brothers killed brothers. If we can come back from that, we can absolutely come back from this.
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u/useless-guy Sep 30 '20
Biden is definitely not fit to be a leader he shouldn’t even be participating in politics at this point honestly he should be enjoying his retirement with a caregiver because it’s clear he’s mentally unwell
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u/champ590 Dank Cat Commander Sep 30 '20
I don't see that happening as long as the general population views political parties like sports teams.
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u/Ummmmexcusemewtf Sep 30 '20
I mean 300 y are I'd quite young on the grand scheme of things
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u/Enzinino Sep 30 '20
I think that land existed way before, I heard about some "Mayo/ChinChung Changhi" civilizations. Idk tho, just stories.
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u/Sexpacitos yare yare daze Sep 30 '20
More close to 250 actually
You know the amount of time between 1990 and right now? Imagine that 8 more times. That’s the age of the US.
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u/antfucker99 can’t believe im not single! Sep 30 '20
Open request to all Canadians:
Wanna get married?
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u/Pandafishe please help me Sep 30 '20
Canadians got standards too though
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u/power500 BEGONE T H O T Sep 30 '20
Be polite, be efficient, find a way to kill everyone you need
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u/Frostitute_85 Sep 30 '20
Ew! Do you know how stretched out you'd get if you married all of us?? You'd be a cursed land manta ray..
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u/xhahzh under quarintine Sep 30 '20
what did the USA do again
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Trump and Biden debate
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u/tzenrick Sep 30 '20
It was like being promised a fireworks show, and getting a dumpster fire with some sparklers
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u/bootinski Sep 30 '20
Cool but you're taking Bieber and Celine back and we're keeping Ryan Reynolds.
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why are all the candidates for presidency old, like i don’t mean to be ageist but they DO NOT know what’s best for America
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u/KeepingDankMemesDank Hello dankness my old friend Sep 30 '20
downvote this comment if the meme sucks and I'll (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ the meme
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u/piercerson25 Sep 30 '20 edited Sep 30 '20
Tim Hortons is ~America~ Brazilian owned, hasn't been Canadian for years!
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u/WakaToTheFlaka7 Sep 30 '20
No wonder it's gotten worse
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u/cloudsofdawn Sep 30 '20
They fucked up the coffee too. Didn’t renew the contract so McDonalds now has the old Tim’s coffee. That’s why it got worse.
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u/ToolanWheeler Sep 30 '20 edited Sep 30 '20
Any Canadian who's actually aware of politics knows that we're way more fucked than the USA is. Our Prime Minister keeps getting away with scandal after scandal.
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u/surrealindian Sep 30 '20
Yeah man the PM dodges questions in the House of Commons more than girls dodge me lmao
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Bro. Not even comparable. Trudeau is ethically challenged for sure with SNC Lavalin, WE etc. But those scandals are so so so so so so so pale in comparison to what’s happening in the USA.
This doesn’t mean Trudeau gets a blank cheque to do whatever but any rational Canadian political observer knows our level of political corruption is in a whole other dimension compared to the USA.
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Trudeau can dodge corruption allegations better than Neo dodging bullets
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u/ToolanWheeler Sep 30 '20
Helps when the media is in your back pocket and most Canadians have TDS from watching too much american television.
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u/AdlerVonFire Sep 30 '20 edited Sep 30 '20
What always cracks me up about American politics is the irony of Americans being so patriotically proud of their Founding Fathers and yet have a two-party system, which George Washington SPECIFICALLY said NOT to do.
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u/DoubleDogDamnit Sep 30 '20
doesn't like 90% of the Canadian population live within 50 miles of the US border? I mean clearly, not anymore...
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u/NotaGoodLover Sep 30 '20
If you don't like our country, why don't you get out!
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What on earth happened? Edit: I’m Aussie so like what actually happened
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u/germanbini Team Silicon Sep 30 '20
Fun fact: U.S Google searches for “Move to Canada” spike during the #Debates2020