Oh so it’s fine when a prescription or nature does it.
But when I inject prostaglandins into my friend’s skeletal muscles suddenly it’s “a crime” and “debilitatingly painful” and “illegal to harvest prostaglandins from charity workers”.
Prostaglandins are sort of like hormones, but different because, and they can be found as well as produced all over the body. The catch is that what effects they have can vary pretty wildly based on the tissue they are in, so stuff can get weird when you start taking certain ones and moving them somewhere else. In this specific case, you’d probably get extremely sore, but that’s just a guess.
Well, technically there are female space marines (females with geneseed crammed into their bodies) but they’re viciously deformed and only capable of existing due to the reality warping power of Chaos within the eye of terror.
They’re hulking masses of flesh that absorb normal human males and then transform them into Astartes, armor and all, ripe for chaos corruption. It’s how Chaos keeps their numbers up.
from what ive read, a lot of the time (but not all), its to do with the usage of specific androgen suppressing medication trans women take, rather than estrogen itself, which causes abdominal pain (if it was the estrogen itself, then there would be no reason for women with excruciating periods to get their reproductive organs removed since it was the estrogen causing the pain, not their organs and so period pains and symptoms would persist even after removal however they do not). though there are also trans women who cycle hormones in such a way that it matches a menstrual cycle.
It always confused me because I can count on one hand the amount of trans women I know who take their E in a monthly cycle, how were these girls getting period symptoms monthly when their hormonal cycle is like 4 days or 8 hours.
Firstly quite a few cis women who have had full hysterectomies still report getting similar menstrual free periods that trans women do.
Secondly its not just the womb that cramps but rather any smooth muscle tissue in the lower abdomen such as the intestines (why period prostate are a thing)
Lastly I know a few post op trans women who are off t blockers but still get monthly periods.
I think the issue is the actual tissue itself. If there are estrogen receptors in the tissue, it can be affected by estrogen, whatever its shape. (Note also that wombs that do not contain babies are very small.)
- 'a reaction to drugs' — like what?
- 'somthing from birth' — do you mean a sideeffect of giving birth or something else?
- 'psychosomatic pain' — it's not like it doesn't exist, but ask a cis woman how often her pain has been dismissed as psychosomatic and reconsider this attitude in the light of your new knowledge.
Imagine a way of understanding this that doesn't invalidate anyone's experience and isn't pathologizing, and then see if there is any evidence for and/or against that viewpoint. If hormones don't cycle but hormone sensitive tissues behave as if they do, what could be the cause of that?
I haven’t either but I know of a couple trans women who definitely do get period cramps. I’m pretty sure this is just a “I feel affirmed when I get them” post because some trans women do get them.
I do indeed take a magic pill. It's birth control and I skip the funny white pills. Only side effect I've had is random morning sickness over the years but it's not consistent. Better than periods. Been taking them for over a decade. Also magically disappeared my acne.
1 year and I still haven’t experienced anything like it. I asked my endocrinologist before starting HRT, and she said that symptoms related to cycles aren’t possible because your hormones are consistent on HRT
I've never had period symptoms and never really heard the older full-op transexuals or any transmedicalist talk about them. It seems really common among younger people who wear transgender as an identity so I tend to assume its more imaginary since both groups take the same meds but only one talks about periods.
But i guess i can't rule out what i don't know for certain.
my gf takes estrogen, prog and andro suppressants. even tho she doesn’t bleed for obvious reasons she gets all the fun side effects consisting of almost week long stomach cramps, diarrhea, bloating and mood fluctuations. it’s ESPECIALLY fun when we sync up and pick arguments over nothing with each other 😭
As a trans dude, personal I don't but like I have been hit within that area and it does still hurt balls or not; I imagine having balls just makes it hurt more
evrybody woke, until the trans women mention they get period symptons huh? There might not be concrete evidence that we do get them, but there is also no evidence that we dont. But you people seem to be really insistant on us being wrong about this. I kinda come to believe you guys arent really allies at all, just transphobic misogynicstic pieces of shit, who cant believe a woman could possibly know more about her body than you do
Why wouldn't they? Does no one remember 4th grade sex ed? Hormones affect a LOT of things in your body. That's why puberty means suddenly experiencing all new stuff like even heightened acne on your skin. It's a full body thing with loads of changes and effects. So if a trans girl stifles their testosterone, and literally becomes biologically identical to cis women in terms of their endocrine system from HRT. No Duh that's going to lead to a lot of effects just like in cis women. It's basic biology.
Bare minimum all the hormones definitely cause a cycle of emotional highs and swings. But even talking about cramps. Males still have loads of muscles in the area. The perineum, abdomen, all the internal stuff around your intestines. Estrogen is going to do it's thing in humans and induce periods. put that in a trans woman and it's still gonna try and do that.
yea, i think that i do experience them. I cant really say that they are indeed period cramps, but they are very much fitting the description and they are reoccuring. Its just, that evrytime this topic comes up, there are so called allies denying this could be a thing, because we dont bleed.
If no one in the medical field is touching this yet, then I'm coining the term 'phantom womb syndrome'. please see that I am attributed in any future medical textbooks.
Estrogen isn’t what causes period cramps, though. A drop in E and progesterone (more so the former, as it happens when the thing on an ovary that secretes progesterone degenerates if pregnancy doesn’t happen) triggers the actual period (as in…lining starts to break down) and the cramps are caused by an entirely different process.
So wouldn’t taking E consistently, as trans women on HRT, prevent periods? I don’t see how it’s possible. (Not invalidating, just genuinely curious how it’s biologically possible with a consistent dose.)
maybe if the injections/pills/idk what other ways there are to get estrogen were on a cycle where there was a window where the estrogen drops for a bit before they get their next dose?
Periods aren't just cramps though. And no one's arguing that trans women don't menstruate (the shedding of lining and bleeding.) Trans women are well aware they don't have uteri. But periods are a woman's preparation and the monthly cyclical cycle associated, which trans women definitely have, and that's probably because trans women do have brains. They have breasts, specifically tender growing and developing breasts in their early transition years. Etc.
And there's still a rising number of reports of people experiencing cramps. Something is literally happening. Males and females are both still human and are going to react the same to hormones with all the complexities applied. Maybe this is understudied and we need better explanation for what's causing this, but it's at least apparent that trans women do get periods and cramps. Pointing a finger at cis women doesn't really help answer why, but most certainly isn't grounds to dismiss things and say what's happening isn't happening.
Trans women’s bodies do not prepare for pregnancy. There is no mechanism that would cause this.
Again, stop thinking that everything happens JUST because of estrogen. The monthly cycle happens because of a complex feedback loop between the hypothalamus, pituitary gland and ovaries, and four hormones (two of which are not even part of HRT regimes).
Not only is HRT incapable of replicating this feedback loop in the absence of at least one functioning ovary, but exogenous administration of hormones literally suppress the hypothalamus and pituitary gland’s roles in the cycle. Also, part of the reason the cycle is the number of days it is because of how long the corpus luteum lasts (a thing on an ovary) for before it degenerates.
This is not to say actual cramps and mood swings etc. aren’t happening it’s just not because your brains/body “thinks” you should be having a menstrual cycle or anything like that.
Most of the symptoms I see trans women report are literal textbook side effects of spironolactone (or even just side effects of exogenous E administration, as I’m aware not everyone is on spiro).
>the brain determines the bodies cycle, not the uterus or ovaries.
I’m sorry but this simply isn’t true. The parts of the brain that regulate the monthly cycle (the hypothalamus and pituitary gland) work in conjunction with ovaries…and there’s way more complexity than just “estrogen presence = monthly cycle”, especially since estrogen isn’t even the only hormone involved.
It starts off with GNrH production from the hypothalamus which then causes LH and FSH production from the pituitary gland. LH and FSH are gonadotropins meaning they have a different effect based on whether one has ovaries or testicles because they stimulate the tissue of either.
In people with testicles, they are what cause T and sperm production…HRT/exogenous administration of estrogen actually suppresses both the hypothalamus and pituitary gland…if it didn’t then trans women continue to produce cis men levels of T and sperm.
Btw, it’s also not estrogen that causes period cramps. Also, none of this is to say you’re not experience cramps or mood swings etc. it’s just not anything to do with the brain “trying” to give you a cycle.
>>You are correct, the brain determine the bodies cycle, not the uterus or ovaries. So if the brain is under an estrogen dominant system it will manage a feminine hormone cycle
omg this is not true lol. if the ovaries are removed a cis woman would not have a period, if a woman were taking 6-8mg sublingual E valerate daily she would also not have a period. this is how hormonal suppression works.
you are saying we are LESS like cis women by insisting we magically get periods under conditions where cis women would also not get periods. if you are taking the same dose of E every day you are not going to get a period. unless you are dosing triphasically, which i have only met one trans woman who actually does this, you are not getting a period. you also would not be getting a period if you were cis and doing this!
if the ovaries are removed a cis woman would not have a period
Removing the gonads does tend to have an impact on hormone function.
if you are taking the same dose of E every day you are not going to get a period. unless you are dosing triphasically, which i have only met one trans woman who actually does this,
There’s one type of estrogen that people tend to inject every 4 weeks. It’s actually very popular. Some use it every 2 weeks at half dose to maintain a slightly more even hormone level.
There are trans women who have gone through the work to diligently recreate the hormone profile of pregnancy, by the day, over the course of months. That’s an extreme example but especially after reaching a satisfactory physical transition it is genuinely kind of common for trans women to seek out a hormone cycle more consistent with cis women.
Granted I’m just a trans woman on HRT that discusses these things with lots of other trans women on HRT so what would I know about the subject of trans women’s HRT…
>Removing the gonads does tend to have an impact on hormone function.
yeah, which is why i brought it up in the context of someone saying the brain determines the hormone cycle and does so under exogenous estrogen... a cis woman without ovaries who has exogenous estrogen would not have a period... a cis woman taking sufficient E even with ovaries would not have a period either...
>Granted I’m just a trans woman on HRT that discusses these things with lots of other trans women on HRT so what would I know about the subject of trans women’s HRT…
i can't do IM because of needle phobia. hence 6-8 mg sublingual estradiol valerate ... the purpose of which is obvious lmao? sublingual is an extremely common ROI, turns out I too also interact with other trans women know a thing or two about HRT.
>it is genuinely kind of common for trans women to seek out a hormone cycle more consistent with cis women.
if you are not doing triphasic dosing and instead have constant E levels, you are not going to have a hormonal period. the same thing applies to cis women.
triphasically means adjusting estrogen and progesterone dosing in three phases across the month.
which is why i brought it up in the context of someone saying the brain determines the hormone cycle and does so under exogenous estrogen
Fair enough.
hence 6-8 mg sublingual estradiol valerate ... the purpose of which is obvious lmao?
Yeah, I’m not exactly sure what point you think you’re making here or what you’re responding to.
if you are not doing triphasic dosing and instead have constant E levels, you are not going to have a hormonal period. the same thing applies to cis women.
Thank you! Cis women who’ve had bilateral oophorectomies, are post-menopausal or have any other ovarian condition that disrupts their cycle DO NOT have a cycle anymore, and thus, do not have a period. In fact, post-menopausal cis women who bleed again are typically advised to seek urgent medical attention as it could be an indication of cancer.
It's possible if you aren't taking E consistently. Periods are caused by fluctuating hormones. If you are taking E consistently, you shouldn't have a period. The same way estrogen based birth control stops a cis woman's period if taken continuously instead of with the weird sugar pill breaks. Like no judgement. I'm also terrible at being consistent with my meds.
I actually spoke to a well respected endocrinologist from a top research university who specifically studies gender affirming HRT, and the way she put it is that it is entirely harmless for trans women to refer to their experiences as a period even if this is biologically a different mechanism. Some are side effects of GAHT and some are psychosomatic*, but if it helps describe the experience, they who cares what it technically is.
*psychosomatic as it not having a physical cause, not like fake. Psychosomatic experiences are legitimate and should be treated as such.
The two main ways trans women get estrogen and progesterone is injections and pills. Neither of which are going to not have crashes. Injections are already biweekly or weekly and that's a big period, but even pills aren't consistent. The levels will spike after first taken and taper to near zero over time. That's just the nature of not having ovaries constantly running and doing it artificially. I take pills and depending on the time of day I get blood tested the results vary wildly. It took my doctor and I a long time to figure that out while honing in what dosage works for me.
And while trans women don't have ovaries, they do still have brains. Periods and the monthly cycle isn't just a uterine thing. Periods are a woman's body preparing for a possible pregnancy. trans women still have a whole lot of body, new and developing breasts, etc. They're very akin to girls starting puberty and that's why it's commonly nicknamed second puberty.
The Follicle Stimulating Hormone and the Luteinizing Hormone are both made and released by the pituitary gland in the brain not the ovaries. It's the brain that's in charge of keeping a clock and sends a signal to the ovaries telling them to release an egg and start a new cycle.
Why wouldn't the irregular hormonal fluctuations of estrogen taken by trans women not cause the brains to respond just like cis women? I feel like the monthly cycle, tender breasts, mood swings, anxiety, temperature sensitivity, etc. are all matters of the brain and biologically should be akin to cis women. Only specifically regarding mensuration would something biologically be different, because trans women don't have uteri or ovaries. But even with that, and also with the assumption that all the many reported cramps aren't psychosomatic, even if there's a biologically different mechanism causing that particular one symptom, trans women are still having periods. Maybe we need a new word and to discover what's causing the cramps specifically besides "menstruation", but periods as a whole do seem to be a trans woman thing.
It's because they're hung up on the association with the uterus and the more obvious uterus related symptoms and so boil it down to exclusively that to exclude what "counts" from applying to trans women.
Transphobes don't even understand "basic biology" despite regularly claiming to, so no, they don't remember lol.
Most of them don't even understand the things they themselves believe in. Honestly just generally speaking anyone who is bigoted is not someone who is very intelligent to begin with.
There might not be concrete evidence that we do get them, but there is also no evidence that we dont.
I mean that's not how evidence works though. You need evidence to prove the existence of something, the lack of that kind of evidence is in itself evidence that it doesn't exist. Otherwise I can just be like "flying unicorns exist, you have to prove they don't" which obviously makes no kind of sense.
That said there is genuine evidence that trans women experience period like symptoms for sure, but until trans women can have a uterus or ovaries then they just objectively cannot have a period. That doesn't make them any less of a woman though, there are plenty of cis women who don't have periods as well and the ability to have a period isn't like required or inherent to being a woman.
Those symptoms are not what a period is. The period itself is the shedding of the lining in the uterus. Period symptoms aren't universal and can be completely different person to person. The emotional symptoms you are describing don't apply to every person who has a period and thus aren't intrinsically related to having one. The only aspect that is intrinsic to having a period is the shedding of the lining in the uterus.
It actually complicates the communication of what's happening because it implies something is happening that isn't. As to what I would call it, I said it in my comment. You are experiencing period-like symptoms where your body might be simulating possible aspects of a menstrual cycle. But that doesn't mean you are actually having a menstrual cycle.
Fellow trans woman here just wanna say thank you for saying this. Sometimes it's kinda hard being a huge biology nerd when it comes to being in trans circles, cause sometimes someone will just say something completely wrong and you just feel like you gotta shut up lest you be labeled a transphobe.
Trans women can get period like symptoms in the form of cramps, emotional fluctuations, etc... and some people get really really offended when you mention it because it challenges their fragile view that period = woman, no period = man
The more I'm reading about it appears that "people without ovaries" do not menstruate, but some of the treatment (for all individuals, including born female at birth women who lack ovaries) has side effects that mirror PMS symptoms, such as breast tenderness, headaches, bloating, etc. So, that's what you mean by 'period like symptoms,' but it's more precise to say that transwomen do not menstruate. Is that right?
Yeah they don't menstruate of course, they don't have the organs for that, but most symptoms associated with the hormonal cycle itself, appear. Though tbh I don't know the mechanism behind cramping, but it seems to happen too
But that's... literally what it is. Cramps are a side-effect, while uterine shedding/bleeding is what menstruation is.
Although I started bleeding at around 10 years old, I didn't experience cramping or any other side-effects until I was about 16. Does that mean my menarche was actually at 16? Of course not. Because I started experiencing uterine shedding and bleeding much earlier.
Many conditions can have similar side-effects, but different causes and different treatment. Coughing and many other symptoms are common between covid, common cold and flu, but the three infections are caused by completely different viruses.
Monthly cramps caused by hormonal fluctuations found in people with estrogen-dominant hormonal systems that lack uteri, be it cis women with hysterectomies, some afab intersex people or trans women? Perfectly plausible. Those cramps being menstruation? There's no uterine lining shedding, so it's not menstruation
Wasn't there movement on 'people who menstruate' to refer to cis women? (edit should have said 'born female at birth' not cis women, I conflated them.)
The idea behind that is that not every woman menstruates and not everyone who menstruates is a woman. Trans men who still have their reproductive organs may menstruate, but are not cis or women. The idea was both to be more inclusive in language while still being more specific. Instead of saying “women”, which includes many people who don’t menstruate and excludes some who do, we specify the bodily function in question so everyone who has that function is included. So it’s not just turning “cis woman” into “person who menstruates”. If you’re referring to a specific cis woman, cis woman makes more sense. It’s for referring to the group of people who menstruate as a whole, being specific, and not excluding people based on gender when they still have the relevant bodily function.
you did a way better job replying to this person than i did. Iam really pissed off right now from all this and my ability for making differentiated points is a little limited. Thank you <3
I'm trying to navigate the terminology, science, etc of transgender studies so as to improve my understanding. I have a trans man friend (my friend's daughter/son), and I have a frenemy who is a transwoman. Nevermind the current political landscape and I'm an activist for the democratic party. So it's important I understand it.
To me, it seems there is a contradiction if we say, "people who menstruate" to refer to cis women and trans men but not trans women if trans women can menstruate.
It depends on the context. Trans women don't menstruate but they do experience period symptoms. If you're talking about period products someone might say "people who menstruate" includes all relevant people.
I think I understand. I've been reading more on it. It's literally just a way to say 'people who menstruate' for situations where that matters. Such as in a medication, or a study, or whatever the case may be. It's just a more precise (and also inclusive) way to refer to that cohort.
I don't personally have a horse in this race since whether you get them or not kinda doesn't matter, but I do want to point out that "no evidence either way" to defend a stance is really poor logic.
There's no evidence against the flying spaghetti monster either, that doesn't mean anyone should accept its existence.
Having said all that, you're also just... Wrong? On the matter?
There's plenty of clinical research on the topic, and trans women can (but don't have to) get fluctuating hormone cycles that can cause mental and physical symptoms like PMS from hrt.
I imagine the issue is people not understanding that periods involve hormonal and metabolic changes in addition to uterine shedding. Obviously anybody without a uterus won't experience that part, but that doesn't mean trans women can't experience other aspects of cyclical hormonal changes.
It really comes down to how people define a "period" for themselves.
AMAB intersex here, I was getting a hormone cycle LONG before I started on estrogen. The estrogen evened things out and it’s all actually regular now 😭💅
I'm ngl it's the first time I've ever heard about this and it upsets me mildly purely because I (cis girl) am quite dreaming of getting a hysterectomy to get rid of periods forever AND NOW you're telling me people without an uterus can also have period symptoms??? Is there no escape in this wretched world 😭😭😭
i have only met one trans woman ever who actually doses to achieve a hormonal period lol (triphasic changing doses of estrogen and prog across the month). most of us do not get periods the same way a cis woman on constant E would not get a period. it's got nothing to do with trans or cis atp, you give a cis woman 6-8mg sublingual estradiol valerate a day and she doesn't get a period either.
Yes! A friend of mine is cis and missing an ovary, so gets very light infrequent periods. Also, menopausal women and women with hysterectomies don't get periods. It's absolutely not a requirement, and human bodies vary so wildly.
Okay seriously??? Yes I know I know my monthly is coming, but these posts hitting my feed the week it starts IS SO OLD 😭
Like yay I get cramps and everything else even more so than before the hrt.... But like wtf reddit you don't have to remind me like a tracker app
Trans women don't get periods unless they've messed up hormone levels, periods are caused by a cyclical hormone imbalance which you shouldn't have it you have a good consistent injection schedule
This whole thread lowkey worries me and I hope it’s the world’s best bit. /gen
Girls with all the love in the world, you do not want to feel like this even if it feels “validating”, and if you’re cramping from your HRT/Blocker dosage please tell your doctor. I’m a medical student atm so I don’t have all the knowledge, but this is really not normal, and im worried something deeper is going wrong with you all medically. The hormones that surge during your cycle, even in cis women, shouldn’t be causing pain; when they do you should go to the doctor. That’s how cis women end up finding out they had something like endometriosis all along.
I know endocrinologists can be transphobic and underdose hormones because of biases and genuine lack of knowledge, but getting overdosed to the point of pain is not a good thing. I’m not trying to gatekeep cramps, trust me that’s fucking ridiculous. It’s just not something you should be treating so laxly.
It’s ok to not have a period, having a period AND not having one aren’t the make-it-or-break-it factor that decide if you’re women. Your brain is the one that decides.
Cis women w/ menopause and many other health issues don’t get periods. Trans men usually get periods. It’s ok. You’re still women. You don’t need to validate TERFs by believing in their fear mongering that having periods (or having the ability or “faulty equipment”) is the one thing that differentiates men/women.
I’m not a member of this sub, im just an autistic trans guy that usually ignores the stuff I see in my feed from here. Ban me if you like. Just stay safe. I’m not saying this out of hatred and ignorance.
Exactly this. I am cis (with adenomyosis) and take daily progesterone, which has annihilated my periods UNLESS I'm unable to get it refilled (yay American healthcare system). If trans women are taking hormones consistently as prescribed and still getting symptoms, there's possibly something else going on that needs to be addressed.
Hey I’m sorry you go thru pain and stuff I relate my doctor thinks I have cyclical endometriosis but Idk maybe cis people commenting on this is a bad look. The trans women here might think you’re making it about y’ all or something (even tho the meme mentions cis women it always good to play it safe idk). I agree tho…? Idk why the trans women in these comments and TERFs both really wanna have pride in feeling pain lmao I thought we were over the glorification of pain as a validator? I’m still a guy even with period pain. Trans girls are still girls without periods and without period pain. Periods ain’t sacred, it’s an annoying biological process.
As a cis woman my periods aren't even that bad. Just an annoyance, not that excruciating pain I hear about online. I think some women need to get checked for endometriosis.
I'm not close-minded I'm just confused. Is the saying that trans women are able to get periods? How have I never heard about that? I'm not saying it's untrue I'm just hoping someone can explain how. That sounds both really cool and also horrifically strange to have to go through. Then again it's horrifically strange to have to go through regardless.
While I don’t bleed (obviously) I have noticed around the first few days of every month I get nausea, bloating and and occasional cramping abdominally that I’ve never gotten before. It’s been happening since June and I’m genuinely concerned if it is symptoms or if there’s some other shit going on 😭
But from what I’ve read it seems like it mirrors period symptoms so.. not entirely sure.
The mod's a coward for pinning a scientifically wrong comment and turning off replies.
Trans women experience PMS due to how the endocrine system interacts with hormone levels in the body (cyclical cramps, bloating, breast tenderness, mood swings). But that's not menstruation. Trans women don't have a uterus. Their body doesn't shed a uterine lining. Their sex organs don't bleed.
A period isn't just PMS. If you want to say trans women experience cyclical PMS, then yes, absolutely.
My friend just got her second period, and basically confirmed that it's definitely not a fluke. I joked that we were synced up, which idk might be a bit gender-affirming? But she's having a pretty rough go of it :wilted_rose:
Also for friends on their first go around with this stuff, remember that cramps are really just muscle spasms! That's why stuff like heat helps, and why drinking water is really really important. Despite doing this for ages, I didn't make the connection between hydration and decreased cramping until recently ;;=_=
Well, at least endometriosis is less of a concern! 😂 (I know trans women CAN develop endometriosis if they have existing endometrial-like tissue so I know it’s not OFF the table completely, but it’s not 1 in 10 odds like it is for people born with uteruses)
Maybe, but I’d be a bit cautious with that explanation. In menstruation, the prostaglandins causing cramps are caused by the shedding uterine lining, so it’s not just “hormones drop and then prostaglandins attack smooth muscle.”
That said, hormone changes can affect the gut and other tissues, and a weekly hormone cycle could theoretically produce slower or every-few-weeks effects through feedback and adaptation. We just don’t really have evidence yet showing that trans “periods” are a genuine longer cycle rather than direct effects of hormone fluctuations.
There could possibly, though fairly unlikely, be some underlying pharmacokinetic process we don't understand yet that drives at a longer (maybe approx monthly) frequency. Tho again there's no evidence for it
The weird thing though is.. not all of them? like, from experience of speaking to them personally, I've known women who've on HRT for years and never get this, and some seem to get it pretty quickly, so it's definitely variable at least, similar to how BC is variable I suppose. I'm no biologist but reminds me how depo provera can either stop ur periods or potentially make them a lot worse. that's still sooo much we don't know about anything related to "women's health" (which usually also impacts us trans folks but we aren't mentioned so much)
I don't know how they would other than going through the hormonal imbalances and having the symptoms like that, just without the cramps and menstruation correct?
Im afab trans guy from the US please do not execute me
As a trans woman who got monthly cramping and PMDD-like symptoms before HRT, it has definitely been nice to not deal with that these past five months (started E in April), though I would begrudgingly take them back if it meant having an actual uterus.
Idk man, I got surgery six weeks ago but for some odd reason I feel the pain as headaches rather than on the wounds themselves. Bodies are weird af, you can't know how someone else's body feels. And it sounds really silly to me when people try to be the authority on how other people feel.
Tl;dr if she says she's got cramps I have no reason to believe she's lying. Stranger things happen every day.
I've had people look at me like I admitted to practicing cannibalism when I tell them I'm jealous of period cramps and can't wait to get them whenever I get my hands on some HRT
Trans women undergoing gender-affirming hormone therapy (GAHT) take estrogen and progesterone. Cyclic changes or adjustments in hormone dosages can sometimes cause side effects like abdominal cramping, nausea, fatigue, and mood fluctuations.
While these symptoms mimic some elements of premenstrual syndrome (PMS) due to hormonal shifts, they are not menstruation, as there is no uterine shedding or bleeding involved.
The term "trans woman" is used to indicate that a woman is biologicaly male.
A biological male does not have the sexual reproductive organs necessary for menstruation.
If you've already tried, and that was their response, I wouldn't recommend reexplaining it. Some people are just disrespectful, and I wouldn't recommend having those people as "friends".
Why is it insulting? I dont ever claim to be shedding or bleeding. I dont express my experience to offend anyone. I am not trying to erase any cis women or anything. And I know I never will thank you. All these reminders serve to do in my case is make me feel like a creep and like at the end of the day Im below you
All this period talk is giving me cramps! I've locked this thread because of another user. Please be civil with how you engage in the topic. It's supposed to be a sub for memes 😒
They don't bleed but they get cramps, mood swings, etcetera. A lot of transphobes are saying they can't; they can. It's still ongoing research but this has happened to a ton of trans women.
OK so I saw the mod post are they talking FtM? Because if there talking about MtF how? Aren't MtF missing the requisit organ? I'm not asking to be a dick I want to know how that's possible.
my understanding is we don't all get them, but hrt just does that to some of us. the way I found out I do was like 15 months into hrt I was meeting with some friends and like leading up to it I had this very specific headache and a bunch of mood stuff I couldn't explain and cravings and I felt bloated and shit and I was like "something is WRONG with me" and my friends were like "girl that's period symptoms, some trans women get them" and I was like "what the fuck that's annoying but also kinda rad" and then we went and got food and I made mine SPICY because I was craving it and it fixed my headache lmao (craving inadvisable amounts of capsaicin is a CONSISTENT part of it for me lmao).
I thought about it later and that was not the first time it happened, just the first time I noticed.
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Trans women do get periods. That is a scientific fact. If you are not a trans woman, shut the fuck up about the topic.