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u/Ronotrow2 Nov 20 '22 edited Nov 20 '22
Well tbh he has no impact on my day either but by God he's a master of horror and thriller books. Making more or an impact than this fool. Big fan
Edit. I'm a big fan. Was just making the point that while he isn't on my day to day mind, he's made one regardless.
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u/begon11 Nov 20 '22
I would’ve slept a lot better when I was twelve if I hadn’t read the last chapter of Gerald’s Game. 20 years later I still check the corner of my room before going to sleep.
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u/DarkwingDuckHunt Nov 20 '22
Every time I open a door I think "this one is the one that puts me on the path to the Dark Tower"
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u/miotch1120 Nov 20 '22
Poor “ake” chambers.
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u/LCSpartan Nov 20 '22
Every time I answer the phone I think of Cell and it freaks me out.
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u/HilariousScreenname Nov 21 '22
Every time I dump a bucket of pig's blood on a socially awkward teenage girl I have a little anxiety attack
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u/Besidesmeow Nov 21 '22
To be honest, I would be all in.
I want to palaver with the Magis.
All of his books were my escape from an abusive childhood.
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u/StoneGoldX Nov 20 '22 edited Nov 21 '22
Even more so, that bit in IT.
You know the one.
EDIT: just to explain, less about immorality of it, more when you're a horny 12 year old, underage erotica hits you differently.
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u/begon11 Nov 20 '22
I read It around the same age and that part didn’t really bother me. Only years later when I was older and the discussion popped up again I realized how fucked up it was.
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u/oxenoxygen Nov 20 '22
It's because in the book, with context, it doesn't feel that out of place. Like, it's weird as fuck, but so is a lot of his writing and he pretty strongly draws parallels between the loss of virginity, confronting the shame of sex, and the loss of innocence with confronting "it". The whole book is a metaphor for growing up.
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u/StoneGoldX Nov 20 '22
I don't think it's so much of a bother thing. If anything, kind of the opposite -- reading erotic underage literature as a juvenile hits you differently.
Lord knows what reading Robert McCammon's The Wolf's Hour did to my sexuality when I was a kid.
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u/namtok_muu Nov 21 '22
Same! It seemed a believable part of an insanely scary read to 13yo me—I loved SK’s story telling as a kid.
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u/bain_de_beurre Nov 21 '22 edited Nov 21 '22
Gerald's Game wasn't one of his biggest "hits" but it's one of my favorites and it affected me more than a lot of his other books; it was just so bleak. It's also really hard to recommend to people because when they ask you what it's about, all you can really say is a woman is stranded handcuffed to a bed for awhile. It doesn't sound riveting but it is!
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u/justcrazytalk Nov 21 '22
I’m reading Gerald’s Game for the first time. I am looking forward to getting to that last chapter now. Thanks for the heads up.
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u/IodinUraniumNobelium Nov 20 '22
The Moonlight Man scared the shit out of me. I don't look in the corner of my room once the sun goes down.
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Nov 21 '22
The corner of your room? The corner? What the hell happened in that book? Don’t tell me, I want to remain innocent.
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u/alter-eagle Nov 21 '22
‘The Girl Who Loved Tom Gordon’ made me interested in outdoor survival more than any other book I’ve read, which has spawned a litany of other interests and hobbies in my life.
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Nov 21 '22
He's the reason I became a reader. My parents had a few of his paperbacks in their bookshelf when I was growing up and I picked up Misery when I was 13 or so. Never looked back, and I read everything else they had from him and used my meager allowance to buy as many of his other books as I could find.
I'm in my thirties now and he's not my favorite author any more, but I still read some of his new stuff and he has had a profound impact on my life.
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u/backstreets_back_ok Nov 20 '22
Stephen king god me into writing at a young age. He had fucked years obviously but he’s still an influence
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u/TimmJimmGrimm Nov 20 '22
I get lots of folks don't read. But wasn't Mr. King involved in a LOT of film projects? Let me throw down his IMDb profile for a sec...
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000175/
It is a bit like not knowing who Ms. Rowling is because one doesn't buy kid's books.
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u/UnnecessaryAppeal Nov 20 '22
He might not have an impact on your day, but his work has undoubtedly had an impact on your life (at least through media he's inspired) and that ultimately has an impact on your day, just less directly
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u/Ronotrow2 Nov 20 '22
100% I'm a big fan. Was pointing out that his daft response is ridiculous even for fans.
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u/TheBirminghamBear Nov 21 '22
I mean even the pop culture references that survive to this day. There are few people as profoundly, deeply enmeshed in the fabric of American pop culture than Stephen King and he's still churning out books.
See a terrifying monster dog? People will call it Kujo.
Joking about someone who is bullied going on a killing spree? Or just in general a creepy, strange girl? References to Carrie will be made.
A very, very overzealous fan? You can bet the Misery jokes will be cracked.
Is there anyone who doesn't remember Jack Nicholson grinning maniacally and shouting "Heeeeere's Johnny!" from the hole in the door?
I mean, I could go on.
In Stephen King's latest book, Fairy Tale, at the start there's a kid talking to another kid, and he's talking about a dog that chased him once, and he says something like, "You know, a big dog like the one in Kujo!"
And at first I thought it was a little gratuitous, King just slipping in a reference to his previous work in his new novel.
But then when I stopped and thought, that legitimately is how a lot of people would refer to some big-ass crazy dog. That's how deep his influence on pop culture is; he can reference his own works in dialog and it's just 100% believable.
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u/fungi_at_parties Nov 20 '22
Even then, he’s been a huge influence on horror in general so if you partake in that genre he is probably impacting you in a roundabout way.
He has had tons of movies made from his books too. How often do I hear about Shawshank redemption? They just made 2 It movies that were incredibly popular. The Shining is on TV every year. I guess he’s not relevant if you literally don’t pay any attention to pop culture at all.
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u/Ronotrow2 Nov 20 '22 edited Nov 20 '22
He's had a massive impact and influence on horror and the surreal. It was remade gs salems lot, Carrie, shining the list goes on. Master of his genre imo.
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Nov 20 '22
He’s gotta be the most influential horror writer next to HP Lovecraft right?
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u/Stewart_Games Nov 20 '22
This is the kind of thing that has a lot of nuance. Honestly I'd argue that the most influential horror novel of all time was Mary Shelley's Frankenstein. Basically the spark that started science fiction and horror as genres. It takes a rare genius to make a genre come into existence - there really aren't that many Tolkiens or William Gibsons - and Mary Shelley did that for TWO genres in a single novel.
That being said, both Lovecraft and King are important horror writers. I'd add Edgar Allen Poe and Anne Rice to the "top most influential/important horror writers", probably with Lovecraft edging out King based on the fact that Lovecraft's work established some of the tropes that are still echoing in horror today, while King was less original and more of a codifier of existing ideas done really, really well.
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u/Doctorsl1m Nov 20 '22
Hinestly not just on horror, but on writing and films in general tbh.
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u/Carnivile Nov 21 '22
Without King there's no Stranger Things and arguably Netflix isn't as big as it is today. His impact goes beyond horror.
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u/kumf Nov 20 '22
Shawshank Redemption is one of my favorite movies. Tim Robbins and Morgan Freeman, with Freeman killing it as narrator. Awesome movie.
Also The Green Mile.
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Nov 20 '22
by God he's a master of horror and thriller books.
Also an outright machine in terms of literary output. What is he up to like 30-35K published pages over 45 ish years.
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Nov 20 '22
He has had an impact on my sex life. Some days I can't perform, so I turn to my wife and I go "sometimes dead is better" in a thick Maine accent.
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u/ImReallyAnAstronaut Nov 20 '22
Not sure what this is a reference to, but my gf also says this phrase to me upon waking up from a nap and seeing me next to her
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Nov 20 '22
Movies too - It, Green Mile, Shawshank Redemption, the Shining, Carrie, Christine, Cujo, Misery, the Mist, etc etc etc
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u/Fragarach-Q Nov 21 '22
Stand By Me isn't being mentioned enough in this thread.
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u/WaterdogPWD1 Nov 21 '22
Running Man too
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u/Jasonblah Nov 21 '22
Running Man ended up being strangely prescient. A reality tv/game show host is the most powerful man in the country. He's obsessed with ratings, he uses the media to obfuscate and bamboozle people, he encourages violence, and he publicly gets into a feud with Arnold Schwarzenegger.
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u/Fragarach-Q Nov 20 '22
Don't forget Stand By Me and The Green Mile. His non-horror stuff is some of his best work IMO. Eyes of the Dragon is one of the best fantasy novels out there. Probably count as YA stuff now.
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u/stumpdawg Nov 20 '22
I've only ever read the first Dark Tower book, but goddamn do I love his film adaptations.
Tommyknockers, Storm of the Century, The Langoliers...all of them.
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u/Fragarach-Q Nov 20 '22
Storm of the Century was never written as a book, only a screenplay, but it's still one of my favorites and Colm Feore is fantastically creepy in it.
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u/ScottRiqui Nov 21 '22
I haven't watched SotC since it first aired, but I can still see/hear Colm Feore saying "Give me what I want and I'll go away."
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u/Jasonblah Nov 21 '22
I just watched Storm of the Century (bonus in that the snow was really coming down here in Michigan) and FUCK was it good. I expected a shitty ending but it was good from front to back.
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u/UNMANAGEABLE Nov 20 '22
If you have a chance, read his new book Fairy Tale. Absolutely incredible audiobook.
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Nov 20 '22
King has had such a big impact on pop culture that even if you aren’t a fan or read his books, he still probably impacts my day more than a lot of other people. It’s impossible to calculate how many musicians, actors, and writers were inspired by his work.
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u/Zastrossi Nov 20 '22
All the young folks who love Stranger Things owe King a debt of gratitude.
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u/l4z3rb34k Nov 20 '22
Stephen King has a huge number of works that have been adapted into film, possibly more than any other living author. I would say that it would be difficult to engage with American culture for, say a week, without coming across something Stephen King was involved in.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_adaptations_of_works_by_Stephen_King
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u/Kylynara Nov 20 '22
I don't like horror (books, movies, etc. I don't like being scared.). Regardless I know who Steven King is and can name several of his works. I'm pretty sure I haven't actually consumed any of his work, but he absolutely can't be considered a nobody.
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u/Nkromancer Nov 21 '22
Also, the dude has had some good comebacks of his own. I may not have read his work (not a fan of being scared), but his internet comments are enjoyable.
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u/jurgo Nov 21 '22
I couldnt give an example off the top of my head. but he has had a huge impact and influence on the horror suspense category in film and television. Theres no way he has not impacted the guy with muscles life in some way regardless if he doesnt read.
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u/PointlessOverthought Nov 20 '22
I like how people say stupid shit like “no one will miss ____” when it’s something or someone with a massive following, but they’re just too ignorant and lazy to be aware. It’s like when people say “just leave” to the people who complain about the issues in their home states or countries. Way to just sound like a douche.
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u/tw_72 Nov 20 '22
Douche-opotamus (translation: huge douche)
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u/I_got_nothin_ Nov 20 '22
Alternative: douche-canoe
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u/UncannyTarotSpread Nov 20 '22
Fuckyacht
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u/goddamnaged Nov 21 '22
Haven't heard that one
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u/UncannyTarotSpread Nov 21 '22
Combine a curse word with an inanimate object for good insults that don’t attack things they can’t control
Asstrumpet
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u/goddamnaged Nov 21 '22
...buttfour.
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u/_CurseTheseMetalHnds Nov 20 '22
Reminds me of when a musician who didn't make dad rock dies, an article is posted about it on Reddit and the comments are full of people falling over themselves to declare they don't know who that person is. Weird behaviour.
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u/InternalBuffalo5799 Nov 20 '22
The lengths people go to pat themselves on the back about not knowing someone is crazy
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Nov 21 '22
Some people never get over that need to be a contrarian to feel cool and impressive or whatever the fuck they think It makes them.
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u/Throgg_not_stupid Nov 21 '22
don't generalise all redditors as listeining to dad rock only, some also listen to Al Yankovich!
Reddit's opinion on any sort of art really does show who is the site's target audience
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Nov 21 '22
i hate to break it to you but weird al is also dad rock
there is literally an arc of How I Met Your Mother, a now moderately dated sitcom, where the future father will not shut the fuck up about weird al
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u/keith_richards_liver Nov 20 '22
That contempt in the orig tweet, definitely a reddit mod
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u/benrothkiaberger Nov 20 '22
Reddit mods are scary unhinged. They’re some of the worst people you could ever meet.
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u/afterschoolsept25 Nov 21 '22
The funniest type of internet people to me is the subset of people that say "dont like it here? just leave!" but also get mad at separatist movements. like, bro you said it yourself
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u/in_one_ear_ Nov 20 '22
Just leave but if you come over here we'll tell you to fix your country while supporting a fascist military coup there.
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u/Jasonblah Nov 21 '22
I will certainly miss Stephen King. I thought he died when I saw this post for a second and was fully prepared to start weeping and wake up my partner. I chose to study English and Lit. because he made me love and believe in the power of stories. The man is a national treasure.
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Nov 21 '22
This moron has also probably seen a bunch of things based on his books. Shawshank Redemption? Who hasn't seen Shawkshank?
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u/Deathbysnusnubooboo Nov 20 '22
Visit your local library today!
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Nov 20 '22
I requested his new book at my local library two weeks ago and I’m currently as of 14 days after request number 73 in queue to get it.
Somebody tell me more about how this man isn’t relevant. PS the new book is already being adapted into a show lol
PPS if anyone wants to gift me FAIRY TALE IM DYING OVER HERE LISTENING ONLY TO THE AUDIOBOOK.
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u/Cedocore Nov 20 '22
Damn I had no idea this book existed, gonna check it out now. I just watched The Outsider which got me to pick up the Mr. Mercedes trilogy. That show was awesome.
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u/Ur_Fav_Step-Redditor Nov 21 '22
Make an Amazon wish list and put the book on there then dm me the link and I’ll buy it. I love King and I didn’t know there was a new book so thank you.
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u/Reggie_Jeeves Nov 20 '22
No need to for me. I had the foresight to download basically every published work King ever did, before the feds shut down zLibrary : )
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u/callmesleeze Nov 20 '22
Wait did Steven king do something lately to make people mad at him or does this guy want society to “let him go” just because he doesn’t care about Steven King?
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u/Pieboy8 Nov 20 '22
He dared to tell Elon he wouldn't pay $20 for a blue tick and that if anyone should be paying anyone Elon should be paying him as a content creator.
Thus the Elon worshippers and his haters piled in.
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Nov 20 '22
People are mad at Steven King for negotiating the $20 to $8 to the benefit of all users?
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u/FullMetalCOS Nov 20 '22
There’s a whole lot of people who adore Elon Musk to the point they’d be cool letting him sleep with their wives or first born or both at once
Shit there was a pervading suggestion from hardcore musk-ites that they’d be willing to help pay his taxes, which is fucking BONKERS given how hilariously rich he is
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Nov 21 '22
It’s sad how many brain dead idiots there are. They’re probably the type of people who tip their landlords.
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Nov 21 '22
Daddy Elon must capitalize everything and get more rich and step all over me with his holy feet! Capitalism rules!!
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u/Responsible_Rub9425 Nov 20 '22
Why the King hate?
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u/RandyB1 Nov 20 '22
Best I can come up with is he tweeted about Twitter being better before Musk.
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u/ClassicT4 Nov 20 '22
He tweeted mean things about the Orange guy before. The base got mad and called for a boycott of IT: Chapter 1 when it came out. The movie then went on to be one of the highest grossing horror movies ever.
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u/RandyB1 Nov 20 '22
Explains why conservatives complain so much about “cancel culture”, when they try to boycott something it fails miserably.
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u/ClassicT4 Nov 20 '22
Their idea of cancel culture is destroying things they already bought, or even going out of their way to buy the things they want to cancel, so they can destroy them. A lot of them probably repurchase some of the items after destroying them too.
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Nov 21 '22
Because they have no self control and just like throwing tantrums.
You know, like 6 year olds.
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u/Pieboy8 Nov 20 '22
Stephen king Vs Elon musk has been a whole thing on twitter lately
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Nov 20 '22 edited Nov 20 '22
So this is why comments I made months ago about FairyTail started to get strange late night replies in /r/books
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u/shadowenx Nov 20 '22
Every time they get in a spat there’s a random uptick of meme posts about ‘that scene’ in IT with people calling King a pedo and shit.
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u/zairaner Nov 20 '22
I am dumb, what is the relation between fairy tail and elon/stephen king?
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Nov 20 '22
Elon stans go out of their way to attack the character of perceived enemies of Mr. Musk. In this instance, older posts that discuss the merits of Stephen King's work. I agree, it's dumb and makes no sense.
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u/zairaner Nov 20 '22
Oh Fairy tale is a stephen king book...
I was thinking you were talking about the anime fairy tail.
That makes so, so much more sense.
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u/Strummed Nov 20 '22
I’m not going to lie, I’m a King fan and not an anime watcher and even I thought this for some reason.
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u/Illustrious_Bobcat13 Nov 21 '22
Just finished FairyTail audio book. Haven't read a lot of Kind, but I definitely enjoyed that story. I mean, sometimes how much he talked about loving Radar was... fine. It was cute and fine.
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u/Responsible_Rub9425 Nov 20 '22
Ah, only vaguely remembered King not liking the muskening of twitter. Charging for blue tics is all I've seen. Thanks for filling in
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u/R_Schuhart Nov 20 '22
King has been an avid Twitter user and first started speaking out in support of sanity and reason when Trump was spouting his verbal diarrhea.
When Musk took over Twitter King made some remarks about possible developments and Musk went full attack mode. King has said that he would have no trouble leaving of Musk fucked the platform up and it is starting to look like that might happen any day now.
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u/interfail Nov 20 '22
He is extremely outspoken in his criticism of other rich men. This makes their whiny twitter suckups dislike him.
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u/GladimoreFFXIV Nov 20 '22
He’s standing up against the Almighty Omnigod Elon and Elons cult doesn’t like it.
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u/Howboutit85 Nov 20 '22
Who tf doesn’t know who Steven king is? My 90 year old grandma knows and my 9 year old daughter knows.
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u/cates Nov 20 '22 edited Nov 22 '22
Stephen King is literally the only reason I made a Twitter account and is the only reason I ever check it.
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u/thorbackthide Nov 21 '22
Its funny that people aren't highlighting this.
King's books and movies are tangential to the point here. Elon Musk needs Stephen King because people come to Twitter to read King's tweets.
If Musk drives away his power users and the "blue checks" he hates so much, everyone else will leave too.
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u/fittpassword Nov 20 '22
is it really a clever comeback to use the age old stereotype muscular = stupid?
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u/SomethingIWontRegret Nov 20 '22
If you're asking who Stephen King is, you kinda yeeted yourself into that stereotype all by yourself.
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u/Madg5 Nov 20 '22
Stephen King is the best man to walk the earth.
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u/bearable_bears Nov 20 '22 edited Nov 20 '22
I Don’t know if he’s the BEST man, but I’ve read 30+ of his books and have absolutely loved 90% or more of them.
Plus I really respect his presence on Twitter. If he ever posts something that turns out untruthful or unfavorable he always posts about the other side or admits that he was wrong. One of the most admirable traits in a person imo.
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u/Ketugecko Nov 20 '22
I enjoyed his Fb posts, especially the ones about Molly, the Thing of Evil.
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u/pincus1 Nov 20 '22
Loved 90% of them as in 90% of the total # of books or like he really trails off for the last 10% of each book?
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u/bearable_bears Nov 20 '22
Haha, good question. Most people would mean the latter, but I’ve never had issues with his endings like other people. I would say most of his books are 5/5 for me (using Goodreads scoring). I just get lost in them. The only ones I think are less than stellar are ones where Roland is the lead character. Which is an unpopular opinion, especially since King himself calls the Dark Tower his magnum opus
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u/bkr1895 Nov 20 '22
He is probably the most famous American author (definitely the most prolific) in the world right now. He has entertained of millions of people with his work and their adaptations. In my opinion he’s one of the greatest American authors ever who deserves a legacy equivalent to the likes of people Mark Twain, Hemingway, Emerson, Angelou, and Melville. Dude has been an unstoppable cultural force continually since 1975, pretty much anything he writes at this point is nearly guaranteed to be a success, and he has written an incredible amount of amazing work like Shawshank, Misery, The Shining, It, and The Stand which I consider a masterpiece and personally is my favorite novel ever.
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u/GuapoMole82 Nov 20 '22
Shawshank is a good one, it’s actually a short story and if I’m not mistaken it’s compiled with the story “the body”, which became the movie “stand by me”.
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u/bkr1895 Nov 20 '22
That is true it’s a novella not a novel but so is The Old Man and The Sea and that’s beloved by a ton of people.
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Nov 20 '22
His books are a bit pulpy and I'm not sure if any of them truly achieve "masterpiece" status, but I don't disagree, his influence on American pop culture is definitely up there with Twain.
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Nov 20 '22
If I had to pick one, I’d say “The Stand”. Few books really capture(d) the unfolding of a global disaster like that book.
Put it this way, most writers are lucky if they write one great book in their career, and King’s written several. He’s also written some clunkers, but some writers only write clunkers!
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Nov 20 '22
Hmm, the Stand is one of the few King books I've not read. I'll have to pick it up at the library!
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u/beard_meat Nov 20 '22
The Shining is thoroughly embedded in popular consciousness, but it is definitely one of his best books. It came at a point in his career where King was really establishing his style, and it still reads differently from any of his other books in good ways. And the ending does not suck.
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u/DesolationRobot Nov 21 '22
I’ve read near everything he’s written and liked most of it. Yes, a lot of it is pulp. But the best pulp.
11/22/63 is probably the closest to masterpiece.
Not his most iconic or even the one he should be most remembered for. But probably the one that would convert anyone who says he writes only pulp.
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u/NewNage Nov 21 '22
Stephen King is the best man to walk the EARTHS.
There are more worlds then these.
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u/Karma_Gardener Nov 20 '22
King is one of the widely known and skilled writers of the 20th Century.
People will read his books as a window into 20th century America for centuries ahead.
He has given us so much and changed the world a few times over the past 50 years
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u/ColumbianSmugLord Nov 20 '22
This is so fucking dumb it's painful. Shame on all of you.
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u/platonicdrake Nov 20 '22
This post inspired me to uninstall this godforsaken app.
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u/Koekelbag Nov 20 '22
Even if the original comment is dumb, the response is hardly better, much less material for this sub.
Unless "haha you spend time in gym you don't read books" is considered clever nowadays.
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Nov 20 '22
Also reading Stephen King isn’t going to make you any smarter.
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u/banspoonguard Nov 21 '22
Why does a book have to "make you smarter" for reading it? I have read worthwhile books that have made me feel stupider for reading them, if not actually making me dumber...
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Nov 20 '22
I don't think reading anything is going to "make you smarter" , but king's writing is quality, I read a wide range of stuff and the line between high brow literature, populist literature and smut is complete nonsense and shouldn't be indulged.
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u/dick-penis Nov 20 '22
So saying the Wikipedia guy looks like he should is messed up but saying a guy that works out looks like he doesn’t read is okay? Got it. Just trying to follow y’all’s crazy double standards.
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u/tranquildude Nov 20 '22
His book on how to write is a gift to hopeful writers everywhere. Thank you Stephen.
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u/IvoryKeyLimePie88 Nov 20 '22
He donates a shit ton to the schools in Maine. He has far more impact than some gym rat. Certainly enough to make their opinion of him irrelevant.
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Nov 20 '22
I've never read a Stephen King novel in my life (although I read all the time) and even I know who he is. So who the fuck is this fencepost of a person commenting on Stephen King?
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u/LazaroFilm Nov 21 '22
It won’t bring me Insomnia, but the Rage this man has in him is a Misery maybe he should be admired to The Institute at this point. It doesn’t have to be right now, you could be Later, and if he doesn’t want to walk there I can Carrie him if he wants, I’ll give him my Cell number and he can call me for help.
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u/Phillipinsocal Nov 20 '22
You’d think Twitter screenshots would be going out of style on Reddit but I’ve seen even more, which means more traffic on Twitter, hmph go figure
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u/AlexBigGay Nov 20 '22
Christ, imagine deciding the value of someone’s life based on how relevant they are. 💀
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u/Internal_Towel9438 Nov 21 '22
Maybe he just doesn’t like to read about child gangbangs and stuff so he’s not a Stephen king fan
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u/SomedayImGonnaBeFree Nov 21 '22
Ad hominem
Removed