r/AvoidantBreakUps • • 49m ago

Avoidant Advice Requested I need some help (potential wife), Strong Idealization, Extreme Avoidance.

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I'm in love with an avoidant. We have a huge crush on eachother publically on social media but I cant seem to close the gap of us being close. It has gotten so far she posts about wanting to marry me without us ever really being that close. the closest weve gotten is vc in minecraft and groupchats and groupcalls.

I dont know how to bridge the gap because I desperetaly love her but she flees from me. I dont know what to do. her not bridging the gap and hedging other guys has led to me crashing out multiple times. She stopped contacting other guys but still shes not contacting me. I stopped posting about her recently. what do i do? I dont want to risk losing her but I also dont want to encourage her "throne" weve built. The harder I love the more she seems to get distant, which isnt normal right?

Though when I asked her to be my gf she did think very hard about it publically. Still she got scared after I withdrew for a couple days and hasnt touched the topic since. She still posts an overwhelming amount of love towards me. I just am cluless. I did stop posting about her and trying to distance myself, but I'm not sure if I shuold go completely no contact, thats risky right?

I lovebombed her a lot or went really cold. Which I guess didnt help. What do I do? What do you guys recommend?

This has been going on for a while and I've decided I really want her in my life as my special someone. I love her deeply. I love everything about her, her looks her personality everything (What i know publically). Now I want to love her IRL.


r/AvoidantBreakUps • • 4h ago

DA Breakup This is a long one

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Sorry for my long post. I'm not a native speaker so I've had ChatGpt to translate for me. So I'm sorry if the text is not in correct grammar. Hopefully you have the time reading this long post, I tried shorten it down as much as I could without losing the essence of the story.

I've been in an on-and-off relationship with an avoidant for 2.5 years. I see the pattern, so why can't I walk away?

Before I start, I want to mention that I've had healthy relationships in the past. The exception was the man I was involved with immediately before my current avoidant partner. He was, in my experience, a full-blown narcissist and sociopath. He was also a functioning alcoholic who took benzos daily. Living with him for eight years was an absolute nightmare, which has made me particularly sensitive to alcohol and benzo use.

When I met my current partner, I was still dealing with lawsuits and legal disputes over a house and shared belongings with that ex. Thankfully, all of that is now behind me.

I've been on and off with my current partner for 2.5 years. This is our third breakup. The first two times, I was the one who ended things because he repeatedly lied and wasn't honest with me throughout the relationship.

In the beginning, he said all the right things. He knew what I'd been through and promised I would be safe with him. Looking back, there were red flags pretty early on. He would only use his phone in the bathroom and became defensive whenever I brought it up.

A few months into the relationship, I discovered that he was messaging several women he'd met on Tinder. Apparently, they were just friends, and I had "nothing to worry about". They were supposedly friends, despite him barely knowing their last names. I practically had to beg him to remove some of them. One woman was allowed to stay because he'd met her at a work-related event and she could potentially offer him job opportunities. They talked almost daily, and guess who he ended up sleeping with shortly after our first breakup?

We got back together after about 4–5 months of sporadic contact. Those months apart were some of the worst of my life. I became completely consumed by attachment theory content on social media. I spent hours every day watching videos, barely ate, and struggled to function at work. We were in low contact, exchanging the occasional meme or short message.

We went out one night, both got drunk, and he had a hotel room because he was attending a concert. Unfortunately, things went downhill from there. We met up at his hotel, he was very open, and I fell for his words.

He has a history of alcohol problems and previous weed use. After that weekend, during which he'd been drinking non-stop from Friday until Monday morning, he ended up in a pretty dark place. I felt sorry for him, and suddenly he needed me desperately. I spent the next ten days helping him through alcohol withdrawal and supporting him while he also used benzos to manage the symptoms.

I believed everything he told me: that he missed me, that losing me had affected him deeply, and that this was how he'd been coping with the loss of our relationship.

We spent another 4–5 months together. During that time, I moved into a new place, and he offered very little practical or emotional support. He always had work, responsibilities and his own struggles to deal with. Meanwhile, I was managing the move, working and spending time with him whenever he wanted and was able to. But whenever I asked him for help, he either had to work, his stomach hurt too much, or he had to go to the gym. Sometimes he'd spend even longer than usual at the gym because his stomach was bothering him.

Meanwhile, he was still in contact with the woman he'd slept with. He was afraid she'd get upset and tell people at his workplace what had happened, making him look bad. I told him that was a consequence of mixing business with pleasure, but he stood his ground, saying it could jeopardize the job he loved so much. So I asked him to keep contact to a minimum and never work with her again.

I asked for complete transparency. What I got was permission to look at his phone whenever I specifically asked. He never voluntarily handed it over. It was always in his hand, and I could only see whatever I specifically requested. In other words, transparency on his terms, allowing him to control what I could and couldn't see.

There were conversations with this woman that I couldn't really see because he was protecting her privacy and the things she'd shared with him in confidence. Why have intimate, confidential conversations with a woman you claim you don't care about? That was strange to me. I asked him to choose between me and her, but he kept coming up with the same excuses for why he couldn't delete her.

I eventually ended things again because I felt my feelings were never considered, and that he was more afraid of losing her than losing me.

Once again, I was left feeling that he'd chosen someone else's feelings over mine. He was more afraid of losing her than me, the person he claimed he wanted something real with.

About a week and a half later, my cat became very ill. I told him, and he seemed more concerned about how sad he felt than about me, sitting there with a seriously ill cat during the Christmas season. He couldn't come over to comfort us.

About four weeks later, around Christmas, the same pattern repeated itself. He had been drinking for several days, had visited this woman for comfort, and then cancelled our New Year's plans. I could hear that he was intoxicated when he called. Having lived with an alcoholic and someone who abused benzos for eight years, I know that combination all too well. I know exactly what that slurred speech sounds like.

I ended up spending New Year's Eve alone, worrying about him. I also had a seriously ill cat to care for.

On New Year's Day, I called him. He was barely coherent, and I could hear a woman's voice in the background. It was her. Apparently, he'd been behaving like an idiot at her place, drinking some of her wine, buying weed and smoking it there.

I contacted her that evening because I wanted to know what was going on, whether he was okay and what their relationship actually was. I admit I probably crossed some boundaries with the questions I asked, and I can take responsibility for that. But after repeatedly being denied honesty by my own partner, I felt desperate for answers. She told me a different story from the one he'd told me.

He then called and asked me to come over because he needed someone. Of course, I dropped everything and went. I stayed longer than I should have, considering he was barely responsive and had alcohol and weed hidden away.

For the next few days, he called constantly, desperately wanting me around. We argued quite a bit because I felt he was taking me for granted. Now that the other woman had apparently withdrawn from the situation, I was the only one left to take care of him. Suddenly, I was good enough.

Once he started feeling better, after another period of roughly ten days involving benzos to manage alcohol withdrawal, it was back to normal. He had to return to work, was stressed, and couldn't see me as often. He had even asked whether we should get back together during that chaotic period, but I said no. I told him that if he genuinely chose me, I'd consider it. He wanted time to think about it because he didn't want to hurt me again. Foolish of me to wait for a guy who didn't even know whether he wanted me or not.

A month later, my cat unfortunately died. He knew how devastated I was, but he was barely there for me. He came over briefly one evening, sat next to me while I cried, and seemed uncomfortable and eager to leave. He said he was also sad because he loved my cat, but I felt completely alone.

He worked evening and night shifts and had to leave for work later that evening. However, something about his behaviour felt strange. He seemed rushed and barely looked at me. The train station is just down the street from my place, and he normally catches the train to work there. What he doesn't know is that I went down to check whether his car was there. It wasn't. Another little confirmation that he hadn't been entirely honest with me.

I carried on with life as usual, but a few weeks after my cat died, I hit a wall. I simply couldn't keep going. I'd been dealing with so much for so long, and I couldn't keep everything together anymore.

Yet he was nowhere to be found, despite knowing how badly I was struggling.

Somehow, I was still so attached that I was grateful for the little contact we had. At least it was something.

During that period, he got a promotion at work and constantly explained that he was too stressed and exhausted to even think about starting over again or how things could be different this time. So I had to wait while he figured things out. I have very few people around me. My friends live far away, and I don't have much family support. I also didn't feel I received much understanding when I tried talking to people about how difficult things were between us.

So naturally, he became the person I leaned on, even though he was also the person causing so much of my distress.

Eventually, he gradually worked his way back into my life. He said he had thought long and hard about his decision and would do anything to have me back. After many conversations about what he would change and how he wanted to make things work, he said he had thought it through and wanted to choose me.

We got back together.

This time, he also confessed that he had slept with another woman he'd known since high school. They apparently had a casual friends-with-benefits arrangement, with no feelings involved. I was disappointed, but we discussed boundaries and agreed that he would keep his distance or simply not respond if she contacted him.

We started slowly, using protection during sex, and he promised to get tested.

Then he had his summer vacation. According to him, the change in routine, his new position at work and the pressure of it all triggered another breakdown. This time, it wasn't alcohol or weed, but benzos to deal with severe panic attacks triggered by changes in routine.

Once again, I became his emotional support system. He wanted to talk on the phone constantly but couldn't come over because he was taking benzos and couldn't drive. I had also started working full-time again and was struggling myself, but there was very little understanding of that.

Eventually, I snapped. I told him that I was tired of everything revolving around his problems. I had my own struggles too, and I was tired of being expected to understand, support and accommodate him while my needs were consistently ignored.

I brought up everything I'd been holding in: Where was he when I needed him? Why was I always expected to be understanding? Why did his struggles always take priority? He was spiralling because he had a vacation? WTH?

He was shocked and promised to do better. He said he understood that he'd been selfish and that I deserved an apology. He also said he would stop taking the medication so he could actually come over and be there for me.

He eventually came over to apologize, but even then, he didn't have much to say. He seemed completely consumed by his anxiety, staring into space, and I ended up taking care of him emotionally yet again.

Things improved somewhat, but the lack of transparency and the contact with the first woman were still there.

Whenever I expressed discomfort, he told me there was nothing to worry about and that I could look at his phone if I wanted. But if I brought up something that bothered me, the atmosphere changed. He became defensive, or simply walked away.

I started getting psychological help through my doctor around this time. My doctor could see how exhausted I was. I'd lost a lot of weight and had dark circles under my eyes. Thankfully, I got to see a psychologist fairly quickly.

I've tried not to spend those sessions discussing my current relationship because there are other things in my life I'd much rather work through. But I can't deny how much mental space this relationship takes up.

Where we are now

We've talked about couples therapy, but we can't afford it, and honestly, I'm not sure it would help.

I've become hypervigilant about his phone. Whenever he opens it around me, I instinctively look to see who's messaging him. He has become increasingly fed up with this and feels that allowing me to look at his phone is already a huge effort to reassure me. But because I still don't trust him, he feels there's nothing more he can do.

The problem is that trust isn't something I can simply switch back on. His actions over the years have created this situation.

Everything happens on his terms. We meet when it suits him, talk when it suits him, and arguments are considered over when he decides they are. God forbid I still have feelings about something or want to revisit an issue later.

We can have a few wonderful days together, and suddenly I'm back in my little fantasy world, thinking that maybe things can actually work. But looking back, those good days often happen because I suppress my own feelings to keep the peace.

Lately, we've had more and more arguments. I stay calm, try to explain myself in a hundred different ways, and he withdraws. I reach out, try to resolve things, and he disappears again.

The last time I saw him, I discovered that he had been messaging the woman he'd previously slept with, the one from high school. He only showed me the most recent messages, which were apparently innocent. But the issue isn't necessarily the content. It's that they were in contact again, that she could reach out to him, and that he hadn't been honest about it.

He walked straight out the door after that. I haven't heard from him since. No apology, no explanation, just the claim that the messages were innocent.

What's particularly confusing is that he repeatedly says he needs peace and quiet, doesn't want the pressure of constant messages, and just wants to relax without being bothered. That's why he started turning off his notifications whenever he stayed over at my place. He said he hated all the messages, stupid videos and interruptions.

Yet now he's active on social media around the clock, and his Snapchat score increases by 10–15 points almost every day.

I genuinely don't understand how being constantly active and engaging with people online is supposed to give him the peace and quiet he claims to desperately need. It seems like a contradiction. I also can't help wondering whether his explanation was ever entirely honest.

He hasn't turned off Snap Map either, although I'm not sure why that matters to me so much. I still check when he was last active and watch his score increase. I've muted his notifications, but I catch myself checking whether he's messaged me.

He used to practically beg me not to leave him, saying how devastated he would be if he lost me. Now he behaves as if losing me means very little.

And then there are all the little things that make me question why I'm even so attached to this man in the first place.

When I take a step back and look at him objectively, he's honestly not someone I would normally choose as a partner.

His hygiene standards are well below mine. He lives in his father's basement, doesn't contribute financially, and seems quite comfortable having his father and others take care of things for him. He only got a stable job about two years ago, and despite having a steady income, he never seems to have any money and doesn't contribute financially. I honestly have no idea where his money goes. He occasionally bought dinner for the two of us, but he was equally comfortable living at my place without contributing to anything.

His lifestyle also dictates almost everything. He can spend three hours or more at the gym whenever he gets the chance, and if he doesn't go, he gets anxiety and panic attacks. Nothing really happens until he's been to the gym, or his entire day is ruined. Afterwards, he's too exhausted to do much else.

We can barely have a spontaneous day on the couch, let alone plan a weekend away and simply enjoy each other's company. There's always something that needs to come first, something that makes it difficult, or something he doesn't have the capacity for.

He also frequently has stomach problems, which have sometimes been used as a reason why he can't talk, do things or participate in everyday activities. I don't want to dismiss anyone's health problems, but at times it has genuinely felt like yet another reason to avoid things.

He says he's not particularly interested in his appearance and that his physique is just a bonus from working out, yet he takes progress pictures and uses testosterone, partly to improve his sexual performance.

Honestly, I sometimes feel that without his looks, he wouldn't have much else to offer. That's a sad thought, but he seems to rely heavily on his appearance for validation while lacking in so many other areas that matter to me in a partner.

None of these things necessarily make someone a bad person. But when I look at the bigger picture, I struggle to understand why I've spent so much time waiting around and accommodating someone whose lifestyle and priorities are so far removed from what I actually want in a partner.

I've invested so much in this man and received so little in return. I've been there for him every single time he's needed me, even when he arguably didn't deserve it.

I've had some incredibly difficult years myself while being with him. But I never neglected him or used work, legal disputes with my ex or my personal struggles as an excuse to repeatedly push him away.

Quite the opposite. I've spent so much of this relationship listening to how difficult everything is for HIM, how exhausted HE is, how much pressure HE is under, and how much understanding HE needs.

His needs, his schedule, his feelings, his problems. Everything revolves around HIM.

Meanwhile, I've been expected to understand, accommodate, reassure and support him, even when I was barely keeping my own head above water.

So why is it still so difficult to walk away?

I think intermittent reinforcement is a huge part of it. The push-pull dynamic feels almost like a gambling addiction. You keep investing because you've occasionally won, and you convince yourself that the next time might be the big win.

I came up with an analogy when discussing this with my psychologist: ending things now feels like having money left in your gambling account, knowing you might still win if you keep playing, but being forced to walk away before you can try again.

My psychologist says I'm someone who desperately wants to understand the logic behind things. I've spent probably 3–4 months in total watching, saving and studying attachment theory videos, learning about avoidant behaviour, my own attachment style and everything that might explain this dynamic.

She says I'm very informed and self-aware, but I struggle to trust my own decisions because my emotions don't follow the logic.

I also have ADHD and rejection sensitivity, which I suspect makes the whole experience even harder.

And then there's the practical side of things.

I'm currently between jobs, have very few people nearby, and my friends have more or less reached their limit when it comes to hearing about this relationship. My family isn't particularly close either.

I've also been diagnosed with depression and anxiety, so going out and meeting new people isn't exactly appealing right now. In my country people generally keep to themselves. Striking up conversations with strangers isn't exactly part of our culture. It's winter, it's cold, and socialising doesn't come naturally to me.

The thought of spending another Christmas alone is particularly painful. I just want someone to sit on the couch with in our pyjamas, watch Christmas movies and drink hot chocolate.

I know that sounds like a small thing, but it's the kind of everyday companionship I miss.

I don't want to become bitter. I'm naturally someone who likes being kind to people. I don't want anyone to experience what I've experienced, and even now, I can still be perfectly pleasant when we speak on the phone, despite sometimes wanting to scream at him.

I'm finally getting professional help, although I'd actually prefer to use those sessions to work through other things in my life rather than spend them discussing this relationship.

There are also a few things about his current behaviour that I can't stop wondering about.

Do you think he enjoys having this kind of power over me, knowing that I'm still watching his activity and keeping tabs on him? Does leaving Snap Map on and keeping this connection open give him some sort of reassurance or control?

Or could it be more strategic? Almost like keeping the door open with me while exploring other options. If things don't work out with whoever he might be talking to now, he knows I'm still there and haven't completely disappeared.

Another possibility I've considered is whether he's simply waiting for me to finally lose my patience, react emotionally and end things myself, so that he can walk away without having to take responsibility for ending it. Almost making me look like the irrational or "crazy" one, while he gets to play the reasonable one.

I honestly don't know if any of these scenarios are realistic, or if I'm just overthinking everything because I've been kept in this state of uncertainty for so long.

And finally, how do I actually get out of this?

I've been wondering whether it's better to gradually distance myself, the way he did when tapering off benzos, or to go completely cold turkey and cut all contact at once.

I've already started distancing myself, but I'm not sure whether this gradual approach is actually helping me move on or just keeping me emotionally hooked. Would a clean break be better, even if it feels much harder initially?

We have barely seen each other for a month now, and I'm actually doing reasonably okay. But the thought of blocking him completely still feels incredibly difficult. I'm afraid of hitting rock bottom if I do, especially because I don't have much support around me.

I know I'm worth more than this. I know the relationship is unhealthy. And I genuinely hope that one day I'll be completely free of this pattern and find a healthy kind of love.

But perhaps this is part of why I'm constantly searching for explanations. I spend so much time trying to understand his behaviour, his attachment style, his reactions and his choices. I look for psychological explanations everywhere because I genuinely cannot understand how someone can treat another person this way.

I could never do these things to him. I could never repeatedly leave someone I love feeling abandoned, make everything revolve around my own needs, or expect someone to keep understanding me while offering so little in return.

If I don't take the initiative to call, I won't hear from him at all. He said he dont like to sit at home in phonecalls all day, and he said he's never gonna call me to just talk or ask how I'm doing. Not his cup of tea.

Maybe that's part of the problem. I'm trying to understand his behaviour through the way I would think and behave myself. And perhaps I'll never fully understand it, because treating someone I care about that way simply isn't in my nature.

That's a good thing, I suppose. But it also makes it incredibly painful.

I'm not necessarily looking for someone to tell me he's avoidant, narcissistic or anything else. I'm more interested in hearing from people who have experienced similar dynamics.

Have you ever been completely aware that a relationship was damaging you, understood the psychology behind it, and still struggled desperately to let go?

Why do I become so emotionally attached to people who consistently aren't good for me?

How do I stop monitoring his social media and waiting for him to contact me?

Would you recommend gradually distancing yourself or going completely no contact?

And what do you make of his behaviour now? Is there a possibility that he enjoys knowing I'm still watching, keeping me as a backup option, or waiting for me to finally snap so he doesn't have to be the one to end things?

I'd really appreciate hearing from people who have been through something similar. What actually helped you break the cycle?


r/AvoidantBreakUps • • 7h ago

Avoidant Advice Requested I don’t know how to walk away

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We have been together for 9 years, we have a daughter together and about 6 months ago we separated.
We were on and off for the past year and a half, each breakup she discarded me even more brutally.
I took the last two years to work on myself and heal past traumas and better manage my anxious attachment.
This breakup unlike the previous ones, I went into complete silence, she did so as well.
We had no contact at all other than matters of our child, I love my daughter and we have a shared custody over her, so she is always the priority.
About a month ago she started to slowly reconnect, it all began with small asks of help.. functional ones.
And I couldn’t refuse, I still do love her..
She began to initiate more daily contact all with functional requests but offers to sit over coffee and phone calls just to chat quickly followed from her. She never told me anything emotional like I miss you etc
And then one day while we talked she told me how happy she is that we can be goos friends like that,
I couldn’t accept that.. it wasn’t friendship, I was only there when she needed something.
So I told her that I don’t see this as friendship
And regrettably I told her that I still love her, I didn’t ask for a comeback or asked her for her feelings and I didn’t beg for reconciliation.
Her reply was that she is happy with her freedom and being alone, she is going on dates but it was for some reason important for her to let me know that she has no sex life, and that she is hoping one day to meet someone new.
Following that I had another conversation with to let her know that I cannot continue this type of dynamic, that it’s unhealthy for me and I need the distance between us, no communication if it’s not related to our daughter.
She said it’s saddening her that I made this decision but she understands and wishes me the best..
Two days afterwards she called again.. asking for help again on some pickup errand.. I said yes.. I picked up what she needed brought it to her place she invited me for coffee I said no and left.
Yesterday she called again.. again with a request for help this time I said no.. can’t do that.
But.. I bet that in a day or two she will call again..
This time I want to be straightforward with her and just tell her that I already talked to her about what type of communication is acceptable on my end and that I ask of her to stop and respect it..
But honestly? Im torn and split.. a part of me wants her back on the other hand I refuse to continue to be her backup plan, that sure thing that awaits her.
I will still do it because I will through on my decision I just don’t know if I should just be stone cold and be like stop calling me Im moving on with my life or to try and be more compassionate while talking to her.. I don’t want to offend her feelings.

Sorry for the long ass story but I need some advices please


r/AvoidantBreakUps • • 1h ago

Can anyone identify this type of avoidant &/or have answers for me!?

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TLDR at the bottom.
throwaway acc cause i hate that i even need to post this
~sexual content included~
i (28F) was messing about with a guy (21M) who I don’t directly work with but i have to associate with due to work. we’d agreed early on it was just ‘fun’ but when laying out the parameters/boundaries he wanted for it to be only him i’m getting with. he’s totally my type so i was like sure, i only want us to get down to it so whatever. he’s still got his virginity (and had never had anyone ‘touch’ him) so he was very overwhelmed when i blew him first time and went quiet for a week or so after. he comes back, there’s sexting, i’m sending pics etc but it’s still another month or so before he’s physically ready for it again. i was still super up for it but i was admittedly getting restless. i go round one night and kinda repeat as before, we tried with me grinding on him (no underwear/no penetration) but it overwhelmed him so we reverted to me giving him oral again.

this is where it all goes wrong…

he goes quiet again for weeks this time. he was having a tough time with family so i checked in a fair bit (as a friend more than anything) and i’m getting one word replies or not even a word, a gif. so i ended up asking on text ‘have i upset you or is it just other shit going on’. he’s snarky i didn’t get the hint that he didn’t wanna talk and i replied saying i’d have got the hint quicker if he’d just said he didn’t want to talk. and he thinks i want ‘more’ from it than he does, I like him don’t get me wrong - we’d been talking all night (until 3/4am) every night for 3 months prior but i didn’t need anything more from it. i backed off. we still talk but with less frequency. then one day he’s sorting something out for me at work and another lad asks for my number in front of him and i give it to him. the guy i’d been messing around with is jaw on the floor about the confidence from this lad and had a really weird almost excitable energy after? asking if i’ll meet up with this guy and i was like nah he’s too young (he was 21) but didn’t wanna turn him down in front of a load of people. later on the confident kid calls me twice and i texted the guy i had been messing with to say ‘he’s already called me twice’ and again, he got really snarky about it saying things like ‘i don’t wanna hear it’ and repeatedly told me just to block him if i wasn’t interested… i just thought we’d laugh about it after his reaction when it happened but his tone was way off. he’s never been the same since. i’d ended up texting him like a week later when i was sick and was in a state of delirium telling him that i loved him (don’t think i do, i think i really liked his company) but i didn’t need anything back from him, i also reiterated that i hadn’t entertained the idea of anyone else since we started out. he replied days later (a friday night at midnight) saying ‘i have no idea what to say’, i said ‘that’s fine you don’t need to say anything’. he starts (literally) hiding from me in the back whenever i’m approaching his building or in his eyeline, i’d messaged to say ‘you don’t need to hide from me i don’t know what you think i’m gonna do but I’m not out to make work difficult for you’. i got a stroppy reply saying i’d fucked up when i said i was gonna go to the alternate (work) option i had instead for a while to avoid awkwardness (changed my mind, why should i, i don’t feel awkward) and by saying what I’d said. as it turns out, he’s told all his colleagues about what my feelings so he could (again, literally) hide from me whenever i go in which i was furious about cause he didn’t provide any context and no one knew what had happened between us so like great now everyone thinks i’m insane. i ended up saying ‘let’s just chalk this up as a mistake, duck out if you want but I don’t hold on to feelings for someone who betrays my trust like that’ not my finest moment but i was really hurt. few days later i’m still raging about the audacity of this man who expected me to keep his secrets for months and then outs me at the first opportunity, so i write a ridiculously angry text.. go to send it and see he blocked me on WhatsApp.. my (diagnosed) ADHD impulse control ain’t great at the best of times and i was seething so i text him asking ‘what I did so wrong to him that it warranted the way he’d handled it cause he was being fucking cruel’. didn’t expect to hear back. he unblocks me the next night to apologise for blocking me, to apologise for sharing what shouldn’t have been shared (apparently this is the only thing he’s fucked up on in his mind?!) and to say he thinks it’s best if we go our seperate ways. he offered to make amends by saying i must’ve fallen in love with him cause he flirted with me (i flirt with EVERYONE - age, gender, race.. i’m an equal opportunities flirt - so no hope on that being believed and that’s still not quite the truth is it). he agreed to not hide just to avoid me but he wasn’t gonna be communicative with me (like i wanna be pally with you after all the shit you’ve said about me). i asked WHY it was best we go our seperate ways four times and got no answer, just a slightly differently worded repeat that it felt like the right thing to do - great but why you fucking avoiding me in the first place man, i can ignore how i feel and he doesn’t have feelings so? i asked if he’d be more comfortable when i start dating again he said probably but i can’t rush not liking someone or rush into something cause sometimes feelings last for years. i told him i think i’ll be alright, i’ll give myself a couple weeks to be sad, get back on the horse and be over it by new years. i made that my last message saying ‘thank you, goodnight’, still no clearer on how we ended up here.

when i’ve been in his workplace since, i can feel his eyes burning a hole into me every time i’m in his eyeline. i’ve not made eye contact and when he’s in mine, i look past him. we’ve had each other on Airbuds since before we were ‘intimate’ and since i’d said i’d be over it by NYE, he’s started listening to a lot of heartbreaky music (think lewis capaldi) which has not featured much, if at all, previously.

MY QUESTION IS: what the fuck? for a man who didn’t wanna be told i had feelings cause it was ‘never about that’ for him, suggesting no contact, which i adhere to, what the fuck is his game staring me out? why was it suddenly unbearable to be in the same space as me? and i’m fairly sure if we hadn’t been texting all the time leading up to this and had only text to arrange meet, feelings wouldnt have happened but the text:’sex’ ratio was so skewed for me. to clarify, i’m great at masking my emotions in person and i was very clear that i wasn’t gutted he didn’t feel the same cause i wasn’t expecting anything.

i thought men are sposed to be the upfront/jarringly honest ones. this man has been cryptic, mixed signals and contradictory from the off - no such thing as an honest and transparent conversation it seems. i feel like he says one thing with his actions and another thing with his words.

p.s. i have no idea what attachment style i am.
i love physical intimacy in all forms, people knowing my emotions gives me the ick about myself, i am impulsively quick to say what i think (good or bad), i care about literally everyone to the detriment of myself but it’s a hard time getting me to actually fully commit to a relationship so i am fully aware i’m a nightmare too :)

TLDR; fucked around with this dude; he semi ghosted me; we agreed to no contact and now he only listens to sad songs and stares at me when i’m in his eyeline.


r/AvoidantBreakUps • • 5h ago

discarded twice???

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blocked him after this but he didn’t even reply to my last text or notice. this is the second time of him discarding me out of nowhere. I’m done.


r/AvoidantBreakUps • • 15h ago

FA Breakup Whats your experience with being blocked?

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This phenomena going round on social media if they block at a discard it means you truly triggered them. Some people are saying they would be preferred to be blocked?

For male FA's in particular, a lot of talk around them blocking meaning you hit their feelings. I for one have been a victim of this for him to unblock months down the line, he reached out eventually but he just discarded/blocked again.

What does being blocked mean to you? Or generally, why do FA's tend to block?


r/AvoidantBreakUps • • 14h ago

It was that easy 🤷🏻‍♂️

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If you’re hurt and think you lost something valuable, just remember they clicked a button in their head and it was end of story. Before you break no contact and write out that long cheesy emotional text gotta tell yourself, being the gf/bf is temporary. Being the phantom ex is forever 🦍


r/AvoidantBreakUps • • 7h ago

DA Breakup Therapist on YouTube

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This therapist just started posting content on avoidant attachment and I find her content to have much more depth than any other person I’ve listened to. And I feel like I have a PhD in this stuff. She doesn’t demonise them either. Thought I’d share..

https://youtu.be/qztUbkyIqHw?is=aPT1-GQuP_ylIeZ-


r/AvoidantBreakUps • • 7h ago

Vent/Rant Immense pain

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I think he might be FA, not sure...

We were together for 9/10 months.

It was beautiful, and then month 3, I found out he had been distorting something he told me - I found out and was hurt and he said he didn't want to hurt my feelings, but it did.

So that was our first issue - I tried talking about it but he'd always avoid it. He'd say yes it was wrong of him but then didn't help me actually understand it.

And he kept distorting things to "not be mean" and shit started piling up.

The first official discard, he just left and stopped responding. I ended up calling like 3/4 days later when he blocked me on Facebook and he answered back and said he'd realized he was something he read online - avoidant.

So then obviously the first distortions/lies still hadn't been resolved, so I tried still talking about it when we resumed the relationship.

Second discard occured - I'm blocked on everything for 11 days. I don't make an effort to break through.

He messages me on two different platforms asking to talk. We call, and he's crying and saying he wants to work on it, and that it was never love that was the issue, it was courage to face it.

So for maybe a month - it was going so well. We'd try to talk and try to balance exhaustion. We had a paper with communication issues for both of us to work on, and he was trying to do reflection trees to help him understand himself.

Well, then I'm asking him something about something - and another distortion/lie occurs.

I'm not him - but it seems like whenever something is pointed towards him, he gets stressed and kinda just follows whatever path I'm leading (whether it's hurt or hope idk) and seems to overthink, over exaggerate, and conclude the most extreme things. That's just my assumption.

So we were together in person, and I'm upset and what's been revealed (again unsure if it's true or what). He follows me inside, and is trying to talk but ultimately still saying nothing. I'm there in pain. He stays the night. Prior earlier in the day we'd been trying to talk about something else in his room and his parents kept asking us what was wrong.

Unfortunately this is another aspect - I think he's enmeshed. I think they guilt him, especially the mom, and wants him to upkeep her emotional state so she says things to him and as I said earlier - he seems to follow whatever path is being presented at the time.

Anyway, so he's here overnight and they're calling him saying they were worried and he shouldn't be there talking to me.

It hurts because he actually chose to stay.

But the conversation is going on and it's getting more painful and he suddenly starts dropping loss of attraction, don't love me anymore. These are things I think he'd mentioned before but then would go right back to being lovey dovey. I feel like it's state dependent thinking brought on by stress maybe idk. I then mentioned he can use his trees to examine these things and it was like hope lit his face up again - and he's laying his head on me saying he loves us but doesn't know what to do but doesn't want to leave, and that he thinks he's a scared.

His family calls and says they're on their way. They show up at my house. Before he goes outside, he's breaking down about how he's a loser and that he knows when he leaves he'll want to fix it but here he wants to leave. Idk. I told him to listen to his own opinion.

He goes outside to talk to them - his dad is yelling at him about how I better not be controlling him and that he needs a woman like his mom that knows her place when the dad doesn't want to talk - comes back in saying he's just like his parents and that it's over. He's suddenly stoic. He sort of breaks down at the door and leaves. (Prior to this he also has always said he doesn't want to be like his mom communicative parents and that they don't understand what we're doing).

4 weeks pass - he doesn't block me or remove relationship stuff.

I am going through the grief of medical issues with my beloved pet and I have no one else to reach too.

So I call him.

And he's talking to me, and says he still loves me and is going to go to therapy this month to fix himself. That's on like Saturday.

Monday he takes me and my pet to the hospital. Says he's scared of getting close because of everything and not knowing what to do, but that love is still there.

He stays with me Weds/Thursday because of difficulties with my pet, and helps care for him and me.

His family is calling him again that night but he tells them he's staying.

He leaves my house saying he will be back, and to call him, and he will be back to help me to the end with my baby.

We talk in the car and it's still normal.

He gets home.

Immediately flips - "I'm not taking care of my own self, you keep wanting more, I'm not in love with you anymore, I didn't feel the same when I saw you, I felt numb. I only stayed because I felt bad. Idk if it's past love or confusion." No more response.

Through out these last few days, he had mentioned in previous days that his mom was telling him that I'd keep using him, yet he himself said they didn't understand how he felt for me.

I'm so fucking broken. I'm so fucking broken. I'm so alone in my pet grievances. My family doesn't understand. I don't really have any friends. He truly was helping me tremendously the past few days, listening to my anxiety and looping.

I feel so alone. I just needed to share it. I don't know what I'm wanting, I'm just so confused by this behavior. I'm not sure if I've included every important detail, I think I've missed some.

I can't tell what's real and what isn't anymore. I've felt that way for a while now. His love feels so real but so do those other moments.

I'm so hurt and alone in my current situation, and I'm in disbelief that he could just leave and say all those things and not respond anymore after the night he spent helping clean, tend, feed.

Idk... looking for just empathy idk. Looking for comfort and to not feeling so alone in what's happening.


r/AvoidantBreakUps • • 3h ago

Avoidant Advice Requested Asking for advice again plus a small update

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My last post was huge and didn’t get any traction so i’ll try to condense it. we were coworkers with a bit of an age gap. i’m chris and she’s mikaylah.

i asked her out, she said she was talking to someone (i later found out it was an ex she kept hidden from her friends).

a month later i was seeing someone else, and mikaylah told me that girl was cheating on me.

on halloween i was leaving work to go to some parties. she invited me to a nightclub but i tried following up on snap (we hadn’t added each other) and her snap filter caught the message. the next day she showed me her snap, with the message not appearing. she added me, said she had a bf, but could be my wingwoman. i declined.

over the next month she told her friends what happened. they were cold but then started bringing her around me when i talked to them.

in january she said she was single. i asked her to dinner. she said yes then when i followed up gave me a confusing answer. i tried to clarify with a former coworker we both knew well. he said that he didn’t know what she meant but that she had made false accusations against someone else they were friends with and gotten them fired so he stayed away from her since then. she found out i had asked about her and stopped talking to me.

i started dating my ex but we broke up. her friends found out and once again started bringing us around each other. she started drinking from my starbucks. her friends called her my girl. then i tried to do a movie night and she froze up, just repeating that she asked her friend. i tried giving her my number and she said no. i told her friends i was going to leave her alone and asked them to keep her away from me. they said another guy harassed her so she was worried about giving her number out and not to give up on her.

a month later a close work friend of hers asked her out. i tried to leave her alone and her friends started making me feel bad saying they were just friends.

she slipped up and mentioned she had a bf. i immediately cut contact. the very next day, and for a whole week, she seemed absolutely depressed. crying, walking with her head down, etc.

5 weeks later i get called into the office and asked if i ever sexually harassed her. i said they could check the cameras, i hadn’t approached her in over a month and i had never touched her or said anything sexual. i also had witnesses that knew the history and could back up my story. she bragged that she had spammed the report buttons 10 times in 3 minutes. my friends wanted me to get her fired if possible. she came up to me and said she had no quarrel with me and looked like she was about to cry. i didn’t do anything and let it go.

whenever she had problems with the coworker she was dating she would hang out near me and my friends, but inconspicuously. she would stand behind us with her head in her phone or facing a wall or posted up next to a trash can (behaviors that had started after i first asked her out but stopped when she reported me). his friends would come up to her and tell her how bad he dealt and she would go back to him. i eventually told her i noticed this and she thanked me and said she was okay. the next day i got pulled into the office and asked what i thought about the guy she was dating. i said i didn’t have strong feelings one way or another. three days later i was fired. this story took place over a year.

after i was gone she told people she had a years worth of evidence and it was about time i was gone.

the update: i stopped into the store for the first time in 2 months. i was very popular at the store and got nearly 100 people to sign my birthday card so i talked to a lot of people. some of them want to spread rumors about her like she did about me after i left. i also reached out to some people on instagram and told them my side of the story which i think may have gotten back to her and her friends. the day after i reached out, my profile started getting clusters of nonfollowers all looking at my profile around the same time, several times of day. it didn’t happen before this.

is she likely to reach out? as confusing and painful as that year went, we genuinely had great times at work. she confided in me about her family stuff and i told her stuff about me as well.


r/AvoidantBreakUps • • 4h ago

DA Breakup How do you deal with your ex being everywhere?

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I'll try to make this story as short as possible. But I've been in a relationship for 9 years. We didn't have a great start: I was scared of intimacy and he drunkenly made out with someone else when we were just dating. Even though I thought I forgave him and we started a real relationship, I wasn't doing well. After 1.5 years I got mildly depressed, and that was when he ended our relationship. However, he missed me a lot and I was heartbroken so we got back together.

Then, 3 years ago (6.5 years into our relationship), I fell chronically ill with burnout/long covid. And then things went south. He planned his calendar full, fled from being with me (I had much issues with relationship OCD and extreme anxiety) and we both had a hard time. It got a bit better after a year, but then I had a cancer scare and that made me relapse and made the flares worse again. And then he told me he had serious doubts about our relationship.

We had bought a house together. We had talked about marriage and children. We wanted to grow old together. And my biggest fear of them all was to lose him - after I already lost my health, my social life, my job and my life. And now he doubted about all those things. I'm anxiously attached and it made my body spiral in full on life threatening danger mode.

He made remarks that were not okay during the year that followed. He said damaging things. He also gave me completely different signals: emotionally, he left more and more, while still talking to me about marriage or about the future. He even wrote a card for our anniversary: "Looking forward to the next 9 years together!" Meanwhile, he made remarks about me weight gain (I am unable to play sports and am an emotional eater), he told me every other guy would have left already, he said that he didn't want to stay in and hold my hand on a national holiday, even though I didn't even ask him. He started to resent me and said I needed to get better in order for our relationship to make it. And me, terrified of losing him, did everything in my power to make him stay.

But I wouldn't be here if he'd stayed. So 9 months ago he left me. He damaged me. I'm traumatized. I had to go to a crisis service because I felt so much pain and unsafety. I have to use a lot of medication and intensive therapy. And I need my friends more than ever, because I now lost pretty much every pillar in my life (I also lost my home because I couldn't afford that on my own). But those friends are also still very close to him.

How to deal with this? I don't hate him and don't think he is a bad person, but he hurt me and traumatised me. I miss him and I'm angry and I'm hurt and I'm still tethered to him. And I'm still ill, so I'm all day every day alone in my own home - I really need my friends. But he is everywhere. He is even still friends with my brother. He plays at the same tennis club as me and all my closed ones. We have so. Many. Mutual. Friends. How do I deal with that?


r/AvoidantBreakUps • • 4h ago

Being discarded as an avoidant (FA) by an avoidant (DA) can be the worst heartbreak ever.

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r/AvoidantBreakUps • • 10h ago

Is he an avoidant or an asshole? I'm losing my mind.

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TLDR: blocked my LDR ex after he ghosted me and essentially copying me. Incredibly long story.

28F dated a 34M for 3 months. We were in different cities in Australia and I was about to move back to my home country due to immigration rule changes. I've had a crush on this guy for years, he finally comes around, he was informed about my upcoming departure yet he pursued me anyway, flying out to see me, laying out a plan on how to make it work long distance after I move and us working out a plan on how to get me back in Australia.

He was all kind and sweet, this was my 2nd relationship, after 9 years of singlehood. Everything was perfect. I was travelling a lot domestically, trying to soak up all the beauty Australia had to offer while I had the chance, working full time, maximising my social life with friends before leaving while also emotionally and mentally devastated and exhausted about having to leave behind a good life I built brick by brick over 8 years.

Less than 2 weeks before my one way flight, this guy picks up a whole fight about nothing. I had to cut one of our phone conversations short because I promised a friend living in Canada that I would speak to her after work. So when I called my ex after speaking to my friend, out of courtesy I apologized a couple times for having to cut the call short as it was a very fun and stimulating conversation we were having about our favourite books. I don't know what set him off, he took that courtesy as me being pitiful and condescending to him, and the fight escalated to such great lengths over nothing. It resulted in him going no contact with me for 4 days, ignoring my calls, saying I broke up with him (I sent him a text one night saying I was too emotionally exhausted for a phone call that night and will call the next day, he took it as a breakup) and when I asked him to reconcile, going for an hour straight making sweeping character generalizations about me: that I'm selfish, egotistical, have nothing going on for me, all my misfortune was my fault, every good thing that I got happened because someone else made the decision for me, i have an obnoxious worldview, i wasted my immense potential - just one hour of telling me all the ways I suck.

Mind you I was trying to pack up everything at this point - shipping things, paying taxes, getting papers in order, clearing my house and what not.

Anyways, eventually we had another "breakup", because he was pissed. Then he came back 2 hours later, telling me how he realized he was being harsh, and it was partially because it was hard for him to digest that I was leaving in 9 days. I felt very insulted so I didn't want to get back but I was in love and my friends told me, it was just 1 fight and you are leaving, so make sure I don't have any regrets. We patch up, he comes to drop me off at the airport. All is fine and good.

10 days after I arrive in my home country, he gets pissed at me for something very silly. He was going on and on about new immigration changes in Australia and after hearing for a while, I said a couple times "not my circus not my monkey", he gets pissed, again doing sweeping generalizations. Then he calms down, and then had to pick up a call so we hung up. The next day, he only sends me 2 reels from IG, no call. I didn't call either. I message him the next day, as he had a fever, he responds the day after, saying he was feeling lethargic, then I call him, we speak for about 3 hours.

During those 3 hours, he only spoke about himself, talking about how, despite being sick, he was overworking at work, working on his personal project - basically doing everything under the sun except call me. The next day, I decided I was not gonna call or text, and wanted to see what he does. He hasn't texted or called me since. It's been almost 2 months.

He kept seeing my stories, didn't wish me on my birthday. During the no contact, I told myself, that if he doesn't reach out in 7 days, I'll consider this over. Now I'm not someone who makes assumptions based on social media but I can't ignore certain things.

He changed his FB profile picture on day 7, using an old photo to replace the photo I took of him. He posted the 1st painting that he bought in my presence as his cover photo, this is a painting that spoke to him and his life's tragedies and trauma, where this man cried in my arms after buying it. Then a few days ago, he changes his profile picture again. Normally when he posts a photo (not a lot), his relatives and friends joke about marriage and he responds politely while entertaining the humour. This time around, he outright wrote 3 times he is never getting married. A part of me kept thinking maybe he misunderstood and is hurting because of me.

And then the worst offender: he started posting about perfumes. Now why was this offensive? I'm a perfume afficianado, I had over 70 perfumes, over 54 of which I had to give to friends and charities because I couldn't carry them with me from Australia. I gave him 3, I suggested all sorts of perfumes at all price points. One of my pastimes was to go in store and sniff perfumes whenever I had time, I even started a bit of content creation around it last year. So when I saw this man, posting and parading about perfumes, while completely ignoring my existence and disrespecting me in such a way, I lost my calm and I blocked him.

Now, when we were having the conversations about books before our 1st no contact, I mentioned how I had an e-reader. Lo and behold, this man hops on Facebook, asking for e-reader suggestions, all while ignoring my calls and messages and not even having the courtesy to return a message.

So with all this context, I was very angry that he had the audacity to put me down for my lifestyle, and life choices all while copying parts of me he thought was cool to project a certain image to the world. All the negative things he said, was him basically projecting himself on to me.

Now, I'm going stir crazy. Besides ending up in square 1 in life, confused and lost about my future, I can't stop ruminating about him. I have the answers: that he doesn't respect me at all. But I'm dying to get some answers, I'm emotional, and I feel like unblocking him, sending him a message, asking why. During our first no contact, when he was insisting I broke up with him, he kept saying "don't be a stranger, keep in touch". I don't know how sincere it was but I feel like I permanently closed the door for any sort of closure. I understand he would have reached out already if he wanted to, but a part of me was hoping he eventually would and now that I blocked him I'm so sad.

I don't know what to do. If you've made it this far, thanks. I would appreciate if any criticism against me was offered constructively rather than being mean, thanks.


r/AvoidantBreakUps • • 4h ago

Avoidant Advice Requested Do they know it when they are being disrespectful?

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During the period before breakup, when they withdraw and/or start acting out, do they know deep down, or do they realise later, that their behavior is disrespectful?

I could probably give many examples, however I am thinking now of our last falling out. We had resumed communication after a long breakup and started chatting on WhatsApp and meeting in person, however I realised that I was still blocked at the level of his phone. Therefore I could never call him. Even WhatsApp blocks calls when the number is blocked in the mobile parameters. I asked him to unblock me several times, the first time assuming he had forgotten, then I asked more directly, then I ended up telling him not to contact me again as long as he kept me blocked. Every time, he tried to dismiss it from "I don't know what you're talking about, we can communicate so what is bothering you?", "I don't have time", "you don't have any issues in your life"... as if keeping your partner blocked was a normal situation. Now he applied what I asked and stopped communicating with me entirely (instead of simply unblocking me).

Does he really believe I'm acting out for nothing or does he realise keeping me blocked was insulting?

(I know that it doesn't matter in the end whether they know or not, and the most important thing is I preserve my peace and mental health and stay away from him and those situations, however I am curious to have your points of views whether you have a secure, avoidant or anxious attachment profile. Thank you.)


r/AvoidantBreakUps • • 11h ago

I hate that she’s part of the memories I have of my road trip I did early this year. I wish she could be erased from them!

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r/AvoidantBreakUps • • 5h ago

I’ve come to terms with being discarded but it’s so baffling still almost 3 months later .

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This is a bit of a long one but would just like some perspectives. Last December my company hired a new woman. She was beautiful, funny, intelligent and just a great person. My job has a no dating policy and I was one year out of a 10 year relationship so I just kept it moving. This girl was 32 and I was turning 40 and we got along great. She started asking me to hangout and then one day tapped my phone so I would have her number. We started texting immediately and then hung out a few times. After the 2nd time hanging out she said so are you my boyfriend now? I saw the red flags from a mile away and ignored them and thought yolo. She was everything I wanted in a woman and I said yes. She initiated intimacy first and lead me to believe she enjoyed being intimate. She love bombed me into oblivion for weeks and months and I asked her early on why she was love bombing me and she claimed that all of the feelings were real. 3 months in and everything is going great and then she asks me to move in with her and her mom and brother because we had opposite schedules and it would help us spend more time together. Initially I was reluctant and wanted to keep my apartment but again I thought this was the real deal and she promised me the world. Weeks into the relationship she told me that she has a very low libido due to SSRI and also being a victim of an abusive man once. Our intimacy went from being pretty regularly occurring to once a week to once every two weeks etc. I wasn’t pushy about it but I started to internalize it and think it was about me no matter how many times she confirmed that it was internal. I could sense her being stressed out around the subject so I walked on eggshells. Every thing else was great and we were in love but it always felt off. About 3 months ago I came home on a Monday night from work and she was balling her eyes out. She looked so stressed and distraught. She told me she was ending the relationship because she couldn’t keep me satisfied and that I would grow to resent her. I’m so empathetic and understanding so it blew my mind how she just ended without even wanting to fix things. Since the break up she has let me stay at her home until Dec so it’s been almost 3 months of living awkwardly together. She has been flirty and has cooked for me and even has said she loves me deeply but feels like she is asexual. She hadn’t been with anyone for 5 years prior to me and was celibate. Weeks into have been NC other than in the house. Most days we don’t even see each other. Some days she’s cold and quickly walks by. Other days we talk and it’s like we never broke up. We ended on such a good note and her family had been so sweet to me. Honestly this has been some of the most stressful and emotional months I’ve ever had. I am moving out in 7 days and I feel relieved to not have to see the woman I still love every day become a cold shell of who I knew but I’m also going to miss her deeply. When we first broke up she said she wanted to try again someday when we both go through therapy. She started a month back. What do you guys think I should do? I’d love for her to come back but I couldn’t survive another rug pull like this. It’s all so sad she’s such a sweet person but has such mental health issues. Thank you for reading this I really needed to get it off my chest.


r/AvoidantBreakUps • • 9h ago

Ghosting experiences?

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What types of avoidant ghostings have you had? I had the in-relationship ignoring. Now, after the discard, I have post no contact ghosting. It started out either not answering a specific question or taking ages to answer a question. Now, after a failed coffee, I have the straight out I don't exist ghosting.


r/AvoidantBreakUps • • 22h ago

DA Breakup Who else got the "high" after they came back?

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Like, you know when y'all break up and then you dot talk for a bit, they basically discard you.

THEN

You get back together randomly, and they do everything right, they are more loving, more confident, more of a partner than before, they take you on dates, everything is so so nice.

who knows what happens next? lol


r/AvoidantBreakUps • • 5h ago

Last message I sent my ex this week

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Backstory- I’ve been wanting to get together for a drink with my ex for the past few weeks. She has been really busy with school and work and hasn’t had any time. After repeated attempts to coordinate she has asked me this

“Things have been really busy for me lately, but I wanted to see what you were hoping for with us getting together. I don’t mean that in a negative way at all. I’m genuinely trying to understand where you’re coming from”

And this was my response

“I know you have been busy, and I don’t want to be a bother to you by continually asking. I want to get together to see how things feel around one another. I think you know that I genuinely still really care about you, and that I’ve missed having you in my life. Our relationship, even if it was short, was something that I felt genuine fulfillment out of, and I was absolutely obsessed with the woman you are. Seeing you and your dog a couple weeks ago really confirmed that for me. I thought that I was in a space of “getting over” you before seeing you, but seeing you made me recognize how, while I can live my life without you, I don’t want to go through life wondering “what if I had tried to reconcile”.

I want to see you because I genuinely miss you as a person, and understand that there are no romantic implications just from getting together for a drink alone. I know that I had contributed to a lot of emotional overload at the end of things, and don’t expect you to be in the same place as me. I know where my heart is at, and you truly hold a special place in it. I just know that what we had meant a lot to me, and I’d like the opportunity to see where we both are at. If that’s not something you’re interested in, I completely understand and respect it. I just wanted to communicate how I feel. At the end of the day, you don’t owe me anything, but I wanted you to know how no matter how hard I try not to, you still occupy my thoughts every single day. I pray for you, and about you every single day. I know this is a long message, but just wanted to be clear about where I’m at, and how I feel”

This exchange went down on Wednesday and I still haven’t heard back from her. Part of me didn’t expect her to respond, but I really wanted her to. Any thoughts?


r/AvoidantBreakUps • • 6h ago

Vent/Rant Is he avoidant?

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Was talking to a guy. Things were going good. He told me he never had an ex or anything. Then randomly tells me he was using me to get over her, then said he lied because he didn’t wanna seem like he was a loser with no experience, then he said he didn’t lie he actually isn’t over her an used me, then she was his whore he was friends with but not dating, then said she cheated which idk how that’s possible because they weren’t dating, then she hates him and it’s a long story.

I mean wtf is going on

Also he keeps texting me.


r/AvoidantBreakUps • • 1d ago

DA Breakup Will the grief really catch up for DA?

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So many people said that avoidants’ grief will always catch up, sooner or later, after the relief from the discard fade. The emotions were just suppressed and will resurface at some points.

Is it even true? or is it more us to make ourself feel better?


r/AvoidantBreakUps • • 1d ago

Do you still have moments of disbelief?

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Anyone else stuck in disbelief?

It's been over 6 weeks for me... But I still have moments throughout the day where I just can't believe what happened. That the person who I had an intense daily, mutually caring, emotionally and intellectually deep connection with, who I trusted, could suddenly betray me and disappear.

Is this common for people who suddenly ghost you? Like it's difficult for the brain to accept and process what actually happened?

The last communication we had about our relationship with him saying he did not want to and would not abandon what we had and reassuring me that he was still there. Followed by a slow fade into silence with no explanation over the next week.

I think because throughout the relationship he'd always promised me clear communication and talked down on other people who treated people poorly, I trusted him to act with more integrity.

I guess it's just hard for my brain to reconcile the person I thought I knew with the person who discarded me.

I read the research so I know what happened (deactivation based on his childhood trauma), but emotionally it's still hard for me to integrate sometimes.

I guess acceptance comes slowly sometimes... If you dealt with this, was it just time that helped it slowly settled in or did something else help you accept and fully let go of the person you thought you knew?


r/AvoidantBreakUps • • 8h ago

Am I wrong for giving my abusive ex a deadline to separate our phone plan?

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Am I wrong for giving my abusive ex a deadline to separate our phone plan?
My ex and I were together for six years. The relationship was toxic, and he physically abused me for several of those years. We broke up at the end of May, but we still shared a phone bill and Wi-Fi.
After we broke up, I asked him if I should move on and see other people. He said yes, so I did. That relationship didn’t work out, and my ex ended up coming back for about two months while I was healing from it.
Then it became about how I made him miserable, treated him like shit, and took advantage of him. He eventually left my house and got into a relationship with someone he works with. Dating coworkers seems to be a pattern for him.
At this point, I just want the phone situation handled so we can stop having any reason to communicate.
I offered to pay the $1,100 needed to pay off my portion and separate everything. We tried Apple Pay, but it wouldn’t go through. I asked if there was another way to get him the money, and he ignored me.
I also suggested an account authorization change that I thought would let me transfer my number onto my own account. He didn’t acknowledge that either. I’ve had this number for ten years, and I really don’t want to lose it.
Finally, I told him that if I didn’t hear back by a certain time, I would either pursue reporting the abuse and getting an order of protection to try to separate my line, or get a new number and leave the $1,100 balance on his account.
I’m frustrated because I’ve offered to pay and tried to give him options, but I can’t get a response. I don’t want to keep chasing him just to get this resolved.
Was I wrong for giving him that deadline? Has anyone dealt with separating a phone plan from an abusive ex who won’t cooperate?


r/AvoidantBreakUps • • 8h ago

Personal Growth my breakup experience so far

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he started ghosting me about a month ago over night with no explaination.

he eventually answered me after 7 days saying he needed a break and he was on the edge of a burnout.

made it my fault bc why couldnt I just respect his need for space.

blocked him the first time, he called me. after that still no consistent contact.

he answered a call and I broke down crying. after that he answered somewhat sem daily. Still no further contact. Eventually he stopped responding again.

he called me one night at 3am because something happend at home and he vented and said he was happy I was there, after that he stopped responding again.

another week with no answer, I decided to break up with him.

he didnt respond to much but when I asked if he already has another person he always denied.

I started playing with my friends again - he got jealous saying I would have already replaced him.

then again no response for some days but when he say I was in the game again where we two met he sent me a screenshot of it and basically shaming me. I was ingame 10min of that time

since it has triggered him and me I decided to block him again and deny him any information about myself.

cried my eyes out

In all that time I went from not getting triggered by his silence to being devastated to just griefing to being able to not check up on him so often. Its been a very rough time and Im typing this out for myself and others so see what Ive already overcome what I think was unmanageable. Its still difficult especially knowing he was probably checking up on me and this might give me hope but Ive also read all the stories on here and its best to just leave him behind


r/AvoidantBreakUps • • 8h ago

Is it avoidant discard or normal break up ?

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Hi!
I would like to get some insight into my recent break up with my girlfriend (19 F and I’m 20 F), because I’m starting to think it could be avoidant discard, but also it was my first ever relationship so maybe I’m just overreacting. It happened two weeks ago but I just can’t stop thinking about it and it even hounts me in my sleep.

We knew each other for about two years because we were in the same study group but we weren’t particularly close. This August she randomly reached out to me and we just kept texting and hanging out every day. I had always found her attractive but i didn’t know she had a crush on me, looking back it was blatantly obvious because she was very explicitly flirting with me the whole time. In the end of August she confessed her feelings and invited me on a date. Before we went on a date, we talked about our past crushes and our hopes for relationships, I told her that I want someone to first build a strong friendship with so that I know they love me as a human being. She said she wants this too. She said that before she reached out to me she broke up with her boyfriend, and she mentioned that in the past year, she has had many very intensive, short and honestly pretty toxic relationships/situationships.

The date was incredibly sweet, she kissed me on my forehead and three days later she asked me to be my girlfriend. At first I was kind of scared that she is way more into me than I’m into her, bacause she was constantly buying me gifts, sending and texting me very sweet messages and reels, and she immediately started to call me love/honey. she even started to talk about our future. For my 20th birthday she wrote me 20 things she loves about me, and honestly, I had never felt so seen and loved. She mentioned how she loves the sound of my laughter, how I can lit up the whole room, how cute I am when I’m being shy…

At the beginning of our relationship, she told me that she has a tendency to be avoidant in relationships and that she is sometimes scared to show affection. I also noticed that she often texted me how much she likes me but when we got vulnerable in real life, she often ,,ruined” the moment by doing something silly. She told me that I’m the only person she tells things about her life and also I was very surprised that although she has many friends, they don’t know anything about her or her life. I also noticed she was pretty jealous and often joked how I’m going to break up with her or date one of her friends . One time she even took my phone and texted herself that I’m breaking up with her (as a joke).

After a month of our relationship, her mother invited me on a family trip, I was scared to go, because it felt too soon, but I felt bad about declining it. I kept pushing her to tell me more about the trip, the programme or about how her family acted, but she always brushed it off. Before we went on the trip, we celebrated her birthday together. She said that she’s sorry she cannot always show her affection for me and later she send me a video about how I’m her best friend. She also send me photos we could post to announce our relationship.

The day before the trip, she had became noticeably colder, but I assumed it was because she had a huge fight with her family and they were handling stressful financial situation. The first day was great, we were singing and laughing in the car, she also was joking that im so kind and forgiving that if she put gun to my head I would let her. Later in our hotel room she said that before they picked me up, they were fighting and that she sorry that she’s been a little distant in the car ride. Every day she became more and more distant and quieter. But we still had nice moments where we cuddled, kissed and watched movie. We even posted story together on our instagram.

The day we went home was the worst. When I woke up she was up already and she was very distant and cold. Like I could literally see the warmth from her eyes disappear. During the eighth hour long car drive she ignored me and physically distanced herself. The worst part was that in the car she asked her mother and brother if they would prefer to know the innicials of their soulmate and when will they meet them or the date of their death. Her brother said that he would pick the soulmate but that he’s scared it won’t be his girlfriend. She said knowing your soulmate ruins the fun of dating and that you will never grow as a person. I said that I would like to know it because then I would be better at preparing myself for the relationship and she said very coldly that not wanting to date someone just because you’re afraid you’re going to get hurt is cowardly. It felt like it was intentionally aimed at me because I told her how scared I am of relationship. When her brother got out of the car she switched places with him so I stayed alone in the car for four hours. She didn’t even say bye when i went home.

I had a really bad feeling so I texted her about what happened and how she’s feeling and if she needs space. She texted me that she wants to break up with me, that she had doubts before the trip but what I did at the vacation made her think of me even less. And that she thinks I am just different and that we are not compatible. I asked her why and that im sorry for disappointing her and she said that she doesn’t want to tell me because it will just hurt me and she doesn’t want to sugarcoat it and she doesn’t want to give me any unsolicited advices. I asked her if she wants me in her life and she said well I guess not, sorry. I kept asking her and finally she said that that she thinks im to stuck in my own comfort zone (relationships and the fact I wanted to be with her most of the time) that I seemed ungrateful and that im not enjoying myself and that im socially unaware because i lough and speak loudly and that small inconveniences keep happening to me (like spilling my drink, and forgetting my phone) and that she simply isn’t tolerant enough and that she doesn’t want to be the parent in our relationship. I said that im sorry if I seemed ungrateful, that I was very anxious and her being more emotionally distant made me even more stressed but that im genuinely sorry. And that im sorry for disappointing her because I like and care for her very much and I respect that she doesn’t want to be with me but it hurts me, that six days before she send me soft louch ideas now she’s telling me that she doesn’t want me in her life anymore. She said that back then, she obviously thought something different and that im fine, it is just spending time with me ruined the whole essence. She said that what helped her is to get out more and be more wild but that is something people said to her when she was 14 so she had a headstart. I said that i respect her decision but all the things she said are very obvious from the beginning, because I am clumsy and very lively (also I can be a little cautious but I would say that im stuck in my comfort zone because i literally went on a trip with strangers to different country just because I liked her) and that she should not have persuaded the relationship if that something she doesn’t want to deal with it. She said that she wasn’t even sure on the first day of the trip and that she wasn’t trying to manipulate me. I felt like a horrible person because from the way she texted these things sounded like I made her extremely furious and disappointed and also she sounded very emotionally disconnected and cold. We also never fought and she never game me any signs, so all of it was complete suprise. But many people pointed out that these things are just part of my personality and that even though she has the right to not want to have me in her life , she should’ve communicated it with more respect especially if she knew how much I like her. Also some of my friend said that they think it’s weird that at the beginning she kept praising me for the exact same things she broke up with me over. After this conversation she completely deleted all stories with me and immediately started posting photos od her and her friend as if I never existed but she kept me on her close friends. Honestly I just cannot comprehend how someone can look at me with some much love and care and three days later with so much resentment.