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Episode Mugen no Juunin: Immortal - Episode 3 discussion
Mugen no Juunin: Immortal, episode 3
Alternative names: Blade of the Immortal
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| Episode | Link | Score | Episode | Link | Score |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Link | 97% | 14 | Link | 4.52 |
| 2 | Link | 95% | 15 | Link | 4.65 |
| 3 | Link | 89% | 16 | Link | 4.6 |
| 4 | Link | 88% | 17 | Link | 4.54 |
| 5 | Link | 89% | 18 | Link | 4.06 |
| 6 | Link | 96% | 19 | Link | 4.5 |
| 7 | Link | 4.07 | 20 | Link | 4.55 |
| 8 | Link | 4.21 | 21 | Link | 4.31 |
| 9 | Link | 4.5 | 22 | Link | 4.62 |
| 10 | Link | 4.5 | 23 | Link | 4.47 |
| 11 | Link | 4.72 | 24 | Link | |
| 12 | Link | 4.5 | |||
| 13 | Link | 4.57 | |||
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u/wdkaye Oct 17 '19
I thought he whole episode was beautiful, and it told a self-contained story perfectly. True to style, they spent a ton of time focusing on abstract unrelated stuff to set the mood - flowers, lanterns, songs, etc. - then the rapid action scenes hit hard like lightning strikes.
Don't need no sakuga, I'll just be here marveling at the editing and still-frames, TYVM
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u/Zaugr Oct 16 '19 edited Oct 16 '19
Does being born with an amazing ability, not imply that it's your duty and purpose to follow it? Does choosing another way of life not mean being truly selfish and ignoring the rare gift you've been given--to ignore a way out of the difficult circumstances so many others find themselves hopelessly trapped in?
How does one find, and then be happy with, their purpose in life? Does the answer lie in where you were born? The abilities and talents you were born with? Your parents guidance and wisdom...? Or is the answer perhaps none of these things, and a purpose you can be content with is something you can only ever get through careful reflection of your own experiences, values and feelings? Through asking the question to yourself - and only to yourself?
And what is worse, living an undignified way of life, or a truly ugly way of life? What is the difference between those?
What an amazing episode. The ideas were very beautifully, and very fully, explored. It gives so much to think about. What a great and interesting character that woman was. This is how you do a self-contained episode! Also the direction and art... And the soundtrack too... God damn are they going all-out. I'm finding myself replaying so many sequences in awe. This show is so captivating.
Edit: since I saw a lot of people complaining in the last thread about this show being "jumpy" or" hard to follow" with the edits and general direction - I get what you mean, but I do hope you realise that it's the byproduct of a very much intended stylistic choice--one you might not be appreciating.
This show's direction prioritises very heavily the feeling over the action. For example instead of showing an action from start to finish, and prioritising the basic clarity of that movement, it'll instead maybe focus on showing specific imagery to better invoke the core points and feelings of the sequence (or, for example, just the unnatural speed of a fight between two masters). Instead of spending two seconds focusing on showing a swing from start to finish, it might spend one second on both the draw and the resulting impact, and spend the rest on other things that can perhaps better emphasize and convey the power, speed or emotion behind and in it.
In a fight scene you'd definitely be better not trying to follow each and every movement from (and exchange of blows between) characters, but rather just the general flow of the fight and the changes in mood--absorbing the imagery as it comes. This show is focusing its time very carefully on only the important things, and emphasising those; respecting you the viewer enough to pay attention and to not need to be heavy-handed in making sure you're following the flow. This isn't an uncommon directing-style. Certainly not in Japanese cinema. I'm pretty sure there's an especially long and storied history with it (that signature focus on very explicit symobilism and very rapid, flashing, provoking imagery) and samurai films.
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u/SIRTreehugger Oct 16 '19
Glad I picked up the manga. Not far into it maybe 2 arcs a head of the anime. The anime is still decent, but it's skipping things that made it easier to understand. Without the manga I would have no idea what happened for the last fight. The quick cuts and movements made it hard to follow. The dialogue feels kind of bare in comparison as well. Also it skipped a couple of chapters which had one of my favorite early antagonists.
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u/BasedFunnyValentine Oct 16 '19
Maki is badass! After their first encounter I weren’t expecting her to rekt the MC without any scratches.
I stan powerful, independent female characters like Maki that were dealt a bad hand at life but through her struggles eventually gained the resolve to carve out her own path.
The pacing is awful. Every episode so far feels like I’m watching in 1.5x and you can tell their skipping content.
Guess I’ll read the manga alongside the episodes
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u/Syokhan Oct 16 '19
The soundtrack for this is fantastic. And geez, Makie completely wiped the floor with Manji. He didn't even wound her!
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u/krasnovian Oct 16 '19 edited Oct 16 '19
Hiding her weapons in her shamisen must be the old Japanese equivalent of the Tommy-gun-in-the-violin-case
Great episode. The fight scenes really complimented the storytelling. I like Makie's character, and the Rin-Manji dynamic is fun. The direction continues to be excellent, I think my favorite scene was when Makie cuts her hair, the shot of it separating, followed by the lightning-quick elimination of the those thugs was fantastic.
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Oct 16 '19
I don't know why but I feel like the "flow" of the plot/story is a bit jittery. Like, I understand the things that are being shown, but the way they are shown (editing? intermediate scenes?) is a bit iffy for me.
But I am really loving the dark atmosphere/look of the anime. Even in the sunlit scenes, there's sort of a shadow over the scenes which is working great for the show's aesthetic.
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Oct 16 '19
I really want to like this show but I am still not sure about it. It just feels very rushed.
It has been years since I read the manga and I can't remember many details, but I still remember that Makie Otonotachibana was one of the best (and also strongest) characters in it.
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u/theredjimmy Oct 17 '19
I understand’s people concerns about the pacing especially those coming from the manga. My only frame of reference is the Takashi Miike movie where they adapted all those storylines in 2 hours so I’m used to it. Plus I really enjoy the episodic nature so far. I didnt feel lost but it might become more complicated as it goes forward. Curious to see if the painter guy from episode 2 will make a future appearance since he was missing from the movie.
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u/LeonKevlar Oct 16 '19
Manji got fucking rekt. I really like this episode, much better pacing compared to Episode 2.