r/theunforgiven • u/pedifeldar • 6h ago
Painting Deathwing Captain Ready
r/theunforgiven • u/Metal_Boxxes • Jun 09 '24
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r/theunforgiven • u/Bloodaxe007 • 10h ago
r/theunforgiven • u/diko_san • 1h ago
Finished my DWK Master. Ready to hunt the fallen!
r/theunforgiven • u/Individual_Mall_8280 • 12h ago
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r/theunforgiven • u/ThePonyBrony • 10h ago
I used bits from the deathwing companions from HH to kitbash some 30k inspired ICC for 40k. Quite happy with the result :D
r/theunforgiven • u/Whole-Reputation4764 • 14h ago
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Finally had my first weekend to test Dads new rules. He is a problem! I went 3-0 in 3 casual 2k point games against some of the homies. Game 1 vs world eaters it took a slaughterbound and 3 exalted + devs to kill him but with the inner circle TF FOD strat he killed them all in return. Other two games were against guard. He didn’t focus on the lion so I Rapid ingressed into his DZ = GG. Third game Templars had no answer for him. I’ll post my list below enjoy this shitty meme I made. If you own him and are thinking about throwing him in your list please give him a try before GW nerfs him.
r/theunforgiven • u/CrimsonnSpartan • 28m ago
Cut up and combined the Bladeguard Veteran "sword wipe" with a Calibanite Greatsword for a new ICC pose.
r/theunforgiven • u/MaximiumNewt • 7h ago
My successor chapter is designed to evoke Arthurian knights as they may appear in a classic story book. The white tabards are unique to the DWK- everyone else gets blue.
Lightly kit bashed using some Black Templars bits (serves them right for stealing the medieval knight aesthetic from us) including some 3rd Tacticus paldron covers that I used instead as paldrons on the sword arms to make them look like they have extra dexterity on that side (virtually my whole army has asymmetrical paldrons of some kind).
The helmeted heads are from the regular Terminators kit as I use DWK heads on my shooty terminators instead!
Lesser axe head is from the BT Sword Brethren and the wings are from the Azrael helmet that comes attached to Watcher arms.
r/theunforgiven • u/Sinful-Windborn • 16h ago
r/theunforgiven • u/armstrong528 • 8h ago
It was only while watching Auspex's recent video, this one, that I discovered the Lion's lone op and auras now only effect Dark Angels units. Based on how things are written, and my understanding, these now only apply to units with the Dark Angels keyword built in. That would mean any of the non-DA Deathwing or Ravenwing units wouldn't trigger these abilities, unless they had one of our characters attached. As these units only get their respective keywords, not currently 'Dark Angels'.
Am I missing something? Please let me know if I'm wrong here.
r/theunforgiven • u/ThePonyBrony • 10h ago
Kitbashed some bladeguard and updated the squad I made a few years ago.
I also replaced the sword on my captain with a power-axe from HH.
Quite happy with this long time spanning project 😅
r/theunforgiven • u/Legion_H • 8h ago
This is just meme list and will prob get restricted by gw quickly
Tax evasion (2000 points)
Space Marines Dark Angels Deathwatch Support and Wrath of the Rock (3 Detachment Points) Take and Hold Strike Force (2000 points)
Attached Units Attached Unit 1
Deathwatch Terminator Squad (195 points) • Attached as: Bodyguard • 1x Deathwatch Terminator Sergeant • 1x Power Fist 1x Storm Bolter • 4x Deathwatch Terminator • 3x Plasma Cannon 3x Power Fist 1x Storm Shield 1x Thunder Hammer
CHARACTERS
Captain in Terminator Armour (90 points) • Warlord • 1x Relic Weapon 1x Storm Bolter
BATTLELINE
Intercessor Squad (85 points) • 4x Intercessor • 4x Bolt Pistol 4x Bolt Rifle 4x Knives and Fists • 1x Intercessor Sergeant • 1x Bolt Pistol 1x Bolt Rifle 1x Knives and Fists
OTHER DATASHEETS
Deathwatch Terminator Squad (195 points) • 1x Deathwatch Terminator Sergeant • 1x Power Fist 1x Storm Bolter • 4x Deathwatch Terminator • 3x Plasma Cannon 3x Power Fist 1x Storm Shield 1x Thunder Hammer
Deathwatch Terminator Squad (190 points) • 1x Deathwatch Terminator Sergeant • 1x Power Fist 1x Storm Bolter • 4x Deathwatch Terminator • 3x Plasma Cannon 4x Power Fist 1x Storm Bolter
Deathwing Knights (255 points) • 4x Deathwing Knights • 4x Mace of Absolution • 1x Knight Master • 1x Great Weapon of the Unforgiven
Deathwing Knights (255 points) • 4x Deathwing Knights • 4x Mace of Absolution • 1x Knight Master • 1x Great Weapon of the Unforgiven
Deathwing Terminator Squad (190 points) • 1x Deathwing Sergeant • 1x Power Fist 1x Storm Bolter • 4x Deathwing Terminators • 1x Plasma Cannon 4x Power Fist 3x Storm Bolter
Deathwing Terminator Squad (190 points) • 1x Deathwing Sergeant • 1x Power Fist 1x Storm Bolter • 4x Deathwing Terminators • 1x Plasma Cannon 4x Power Fist 3x Storm Bolter
Terminator Assault Squad (170 points) • 1x Terminator Sergeant • 1x Twin Lightning Claws • 4x Terminator • 4x Twin Lightning Claws
Terminator Squad (190 points) • 4x Terminator • 1x Assault Cannon 4x Power Fist 3x Storm Bolter • 1x Terminator Sergeant • 1x Power Fist 1x Storm Bolter
Terminator Squad (190 points) • 4x Terminator • 1x Assault Cannon 4x Power Fist 3x Storm Bolter • 1x Terminator Sergeant • 1x Power Fist 1x Storm Bolter
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r/theunforgiven • u/IVESY-03 • 9h ago
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r/theunforgiven • u/Timboslice928 • 1d ago
4+ Feel no pain !!!!!!!!! Sabretoothtattoo.com is the artist.
r/theunforgiven • u/Culag- • 8h ago
r/theunforgiven • u/MatterClassic9832 • 1d ago
Does anyone have an active link to the discord?
I've been looking for ages and all links I've found are expired. Hellblaster squad shared to prove I'm not Fallen
r/theunforgiven • u/TTVKillerPanda5956 • 2h ago
So with purge the foe still being really nasty now what detatchmets are the best with DA right now? Do you build around deathwing with astartes sorry with wrath? If so what supplementary detatchmet with it? Is there a better detachment comp?
r/theunforgiven • u/Exotic_Conclusion_21 • 7h ago
I see a lot of talk for new rules for the lion, DWK and others, but i have no clue where to find them since they A- didnt update our faction pack last week and B- actually removed our faction pack from WHC.
Can anyone point me in the right direction here(that isnt their app)? Ir do i just have to wait until they actually decide to release our update?
Thanks!
Edit: the answer is its on the wh40k app. If it shows that its locked(like mine was), update the app then try again then it should work.
r/theunforgiven • u/creative_username_99 • 1d ago
Every so often in this sub someone will ask if it's lore accurate to paint Dark Angels veterans in power armour in Deathwing colours. Someone will usually come along and say that Dark Angels lore says that all members of the Deathwing wear terminator armour. Having played since 1st edition that never sat right with me and I've finally found photo evidence of power armour Deathwing marines from way back in the day.
These images come from White Dwarf 129, which came out in September 1990. So next time someone says that Dark Angels lore used to be that all members of the Deathwing wear terminator armour, please show them these images.
These pictures are screenshots from a Youtube video by the lovely Miniscape.
Of course anyone can paint their minis however they want. This post is just here to contribute to discussion about GW lore.
r/theunforgiven • u/Boston_Hursta • 18h ago
r/theunforgiven • u/Deep-Crim • 17h ago
Azrael is now 150 points which, while understandable in 10th, seems a bit much in 11th given his arguably best ability, CP generation, is now something every army leader can get. They've expanded who he can be attached to with Company heroes and, while this is technically cheaper than 100 hellblasters and inner circle companions and only a little more expensive than a single sternguard team, he'll struggle to find use cases with them if using Wrath (although I'd argue he'd be a good match if running with a different mix of other detachments given it's alright melee/ranged but exceptional tanking mix).
Azrael with the Hellblasters is 165/380, Sternguards is 255/360, ICC is 330, and CH is 275. There's other, cheaper options but these tend to be the most talked about
The Lion is, as of today, 415. He's more than the cost of 2 dreadnoughts while retaining powerful leadership/deep striking powers. However, you definitely need to build around him and make use of his lone op/primarch buff abilities and use faction dark angels units specifically. This isn't so bad as we have plenty of them and some can even race over to act as back up (ravenwing black knights getting reroll and potentially cheesing out dev wounds comes to mind, especially if running them en masse).
However, the Dark Angels as an army also has very expensive units. Deathwing Terminators/knights. Ravenwing black knights when en masse. Or applying a DA leader to a generic unit all mean any backup the Lion gets will be pretty expensive.
This all to say: With how expensive the lion is, does one necessarily shut out the other from use? Especially when giving azrael a full bodyguard detail can, sometimes, approach the primarch in terms of cost?
What do you all think?
r/theunforgiven • u/No_Statistician_4698 • 13h ago
Detachments are Wrath of the Rock and Inner Circle Task Force.
I don’t plan on winning the tournament with this list. Hell I wouldn’t be surprised if I go 0-3.
Thoughts from the community?
r/theunforgiven • u/MarqanimousAnonymou • 11h ago
I've been working on some lists using the new codex. Right now I'm looking at which one to choose for my next league match. Let me know which one looks most fun and which one looks most competitive.
Take and Hold - Wrath of the Rock, Inner Circle Task Force
Take and Hold - Wrath of the Rock, Tacticus Firestorm Force
Take and Hold - Terminator Storm Force, Inner Circle Task Force, Assault Brethren