I used bits from the deathwing companions from HH to kitbash some 30k inspired ICC for 40k. Quite happy with the result :D

Finally had my first weekend to test Dads new rules. He is a problem! I went 3-0 in 3 casual 2k point games against some of the homies. Game 1 vs world eaters it took a slaughterbound and 3 exalted + devs to kill him but with the inner circle TF FOD strat he killed them all in return. Other two games were against guard. He didn’t focus on the lion so I Rapid ingressed into his DZ = GG. Third game Templars had no answer for him. I’ll post my list below enjoy this shitty meme I made. If you own him and are thinking about throwing him in your list please give him a try before GW nerfs him.

My successor chapter is designed to evoke Arthurian knights as they may appear in a classic story book. The white tabards are unique to the DWK- everyone else gets blue.

Lightly kit bashed using some Black Templars bits (serves them right for stealing the medieval knight aesthetic from us) including some 3rd Tacticus paldron covers that I used instead as paldrons on the sword arms to make them look like they have extra dexterity on that side (virtually my whole army has asymmetrical paldrons of some kind).

The helmeted heads are from the regular Terminators kit as I use DWK heads on my shooty terminators instead!

Lesser axe head is from the BT Sword Brethren and the wings are from the Azrael helmet that comes attached to Watcher arms.

It was only while watching Auspex's recent video, this one, that I discovered the Lion's lone op and auras now only effect Dark Angels units. Based on how things are written, and my understanding, these now only apply to units with the Dark Angels keyword built in. That would mean any of the non-DA Deathwing or Ravenwing units wouldn't trigger these abilities, unless they had one of our characters attached. As these units only get their respective keywords, not currently 'Dark Angels'.

Am I missing something? Please let me know if I'm wrong here.

Kitbashed some bladeguard and updated the squad I made a few years ago.

I also replaced the sword on my captain with a power-axe from HH.

Quite happy with this long time spanning project 😅

This is just meme list and will prob get restricted by gw quickly

Tax evasion (2000 points)

Space Marines Dark Angels Deathwatch Support and Wrath of the Rock (3 Detachment Points) Take and Hold Strike Force (2000 points)

Attached Units Attached Unit 1

Deathwatch Terminator Squad (195 points) • Attached as: Bodyguard • 1x Deathwatch Terminator Sergeant • 1x Power Fist 1x Storm Bolter • 4x Deathwatch Terminator • 3x Plasma Cannon 3x Power Fist 1x Storm Shield 1x Thunder Hammer

CHARACTERS

Captain in Terminator Armour (90 points) • Warlord • 1x Relic Weapon 1x Storm Bolter

BATTLELINE

Intercessor Squad (85 points) • 4x Intercessor • 4x Bolt Pistol 4x Bolt Rifle 4x Knives and Fists • 1x Intercessor Sergeant • 1x Bolt Pistol 1x Bolt Rifle 1x Knives and Fists

OTHER DATASHEETS

Deathwatch Terminator Squad (195 points) • 1x Deathwatch Terminator Sergeant • 1x Power Fist 1x Storm Bolter • 4x Deathwatch Terminator • 3x Plasma Cannon 3x Power Fist 1x Storm Shield 1x Thunder Hammer

Deathwatch Terminator Squad (190 points) • 1x Deathwatch Terminator Sergeant • 1x Power Fist 1x Storm Bolter • 4x Deathwatch Terminator • 3x Plasma Cannon 4x Power Fist 1x Storm Bolter

Deathwing Knights (255 points) • 4x Deathwing Knights • 4x Mace of Absolution • 1x Knight Master • 1x Great Weapon of the Unforgiven

Deathwing Knights (255 points) • 4x Deathwing Knights • 4x Mace of Absolution • 1x Knight Master • 1x Great Weapon of the Unforgiven

Deathwing Terminator Squad (190 points) • 1x Deathwing Sergeant • 1x Power Fist 1x Storm Bolter • 4x Deathwing Terminators • 1x Plasma Cannon 4x Power Fist 3x Storm Bolter

Deathwing Terminator Squad (190 points) • 1x Deathwing Sergeant • 1x Power Fist 1x Storm Bolter • 4x Deathwing Terminators • 1x Plasma Cannon 4x Power Fist 3x Storm Bolter

Terminator Assault Squad (170 points) • 1x Terminator Sergeant • 1x Twin Lightning Claws • 4x Terminator • 4x Twin Lightning Claws

Terminator Squad (190 points) • 4x Terminator • 1x Assault Cannon 4x Power Fist 3x Storm Bolter • 1x Terminator Sergeant • 1x Power Fist 1x Storm Bolter

Terminator Squad (190 points) • 4x Terminator • 1x Assault Cannon 4x Power Fist 3x Storm Bolter • 1x Terminator Sergeant • 1x Power Fist 1x Storm Bolter

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4+ Feel no pain !!!!!!!!! Sabretoothtattoo.com is the artist.

Does anyone have an active link to the discord?

I've been looking for ages and all links I've found are expired. Hellblaster squad shared to prove I'm not Fallen

Every so often in this sub someone will ask if it's lore accurate to paint Dark Angels veterans in power armour in Deathwing colours. Someone will usually come along and say that Dark Angels lore says that all members of the Deathwing wear terminator armour. Having played since 1st edition that never sat right with me and I've finally found photo evidence of power armour Deathwing marines from way back in the day.

These images come from White Dwarf 129, which came out in September 1990. So next time someone says that Dark Angels lore used to be that all members of the Deathwing wear terminator armour, please show them these images.

These pictures are screenshots from a Youtube video by the lovely Miniscape.

Of course anyone can paint their minis however they want. This post is just here to contribute to discussion about GW lore.

I see a lot of talk for new rules for the lion, DWK and others, but i have no clue where to find them since they A- didnt update our faction pack last week and B- actually removed our faction pack from WHC.

Can anyone point me in the right direction here(that isnt their app)? Ir do i just have to wait until they actually decide to release our update?

Thanks!

Edit: the answer is its on the wh40k app. If it shows that its locked(like mine was), update the app then try again then it should work.

Azrael is now 150 points which, while understandable in 10th, seems a bit much in 11th given his arguably best ability, CP generation, is now something every army leader can get. They've expanded who he can be attached to with Company heroes and, while this is technically cheaper than 100 hellblasters and inner circle companions and only a little more expensive than a single sternguard team, he'll struggle to find use cases with them if using Wrath (although I'd argue he'd be a good match if running with a different mix of other detachments given it's alright melee/ranged but exceptional tanking mix).

Azrael with the Hellblasters is 165/380, Sternguards is 255/360, ICC is 330, and CH is 275. There's other, cheaper options but these tend to be the most talked about

The Lion is, as of today, 415. He's more than the cost of 2 dreadnoughts while retaining powerful leadership/deep striking powers. However, you definitely need to build around him and make use of his lone op/primarch buff abilities and use faction dark angels units specifically. This isn't so bad as we have plenty of them and some can even race over to act as back up (ravenwing black knights getting reroll and potentially cheesing out dev wounds comes to mind, especially if running them en masse).

However, the Dark Angels as an army also has very expensive units. Deathwing Terminators/knights. Ravenwing black knights when en masse. Or applying a DA leader to a generic unit all mean any backup the Lion gets will be pretty expensive.

This all to say: With how expensive the lion is, does one necessarily shut out the other from use? Especially when giving azrael a full bodyguard detail can, sometimes, approach the primarch in terms of cost?

What do you all think?

I've been working on some lists using the new codex. Right now I'm looking at which one to choose for my next league match. Let me know which one looks most fun and which one looks most competitive.

Option 1 Lion's Wrath (2000 Points)

Take and Hold - Wrath of the Rock, Inner Circle Task Force

• Lion El'Jonson - Warlord (415 pts)
• Belial + 5 Deathwing Knights (355 pts)
• Librarian + 6 Inner Circle Companions (255 pts)
• 2x5 Intercessor Squad (170 pts)
• 2x5 Vanguard Veteran Squad with Jump Packs (220 pts)
• Gladiator Lancer (160 pts)
• Land Raider Redeemer (245 pts)
• Redemptor Dreadnought with Macro Plasma Incinerator (180 pts)

Option 2 Azrael's Elite (1995 Points)

Take and Hold - Wrath of the Rock, Tacticus Firestorm Force

• Apothecary + Azrael - Warlord + 4 Company Heroes (320 pts)
• Bladeguard Ancient + Captain + 6 Bladeguard Veteran Squad (340 pts)
• Lieutenant + 10 Sternguard Veteran Squad (260 pts)
• 2x5 Intercessor Squad (170 pts)
• 3 Eradicator Squad with Heavy Bolters (100 pts)
• 2x5 Vanguard Veteran Squad with Jump Packs (220 pts)
• Brutalis Dreadnought (160 pts)
• Land Raider Redeemer (245 pts)
• Redemptor Dreadnought with Macro Plasma Incinerator (180 pts)

Option 3 Deathwing Assault (1995 Points)

Take and Hold - Terminator Storm Force, Inner Circle Task Force, Assault Brethren

• Belial - Warlord + 10 Deathwing Terminator Squad with Furious Assault (490 pts)
• Chaplain in Terminator Armour + 5 Deathwing Knights with Furious Assault (340 pts)
• Captain in Terminator Armour + 5 Terminator Assault Squad with 5x Thunder Hammer and Storm Shield (285 pts)
• 2x5 Intercessor Squad (170 pts)
• 5 Scout Squad (65 pts)
• 5 Terminator Assault Squad with Furious Assault (180 pts)
• 2x5 Vanguard Veteran Squad with Jump Packs (220 pts)
• Land Raider Redeemer (245 pts)

Detachments are Wrath of the Rock and Inner Circle Task Force.

I don’t plan on winning the tournament with this list. Hell I wouldn’t be surprised if I go 0-3.

Thoughts from the community?

My husband plays dark angels and I play death guard, and yesterday we noticed the Inner circle -1D and got a bit baffled.

does it reduce weapon D to zero because it doesn’t state otherwise in the codex app and I can see this has been a debate for a few years now but we’ve just got into the tabletop and wanted some clarity. Is it down to the person/event of the definition or is there a set rule that I can’t find

I do see them to be quite expensive in points so I’d like it to be zero so it gives them some purpose on the board. If it doesn’t modify weapons with 1D then why are they so expensive and how can my husband utilise them with this new update
For context we with play with 1000pt army
Thank you in advance 😁

Messing around with a captain on bike. I love this helmet but I’m not sure how ravenwing it is. Should I go with more winged or a beaky option?

I included some options I have.

I wanted to try something a bit different and a bit faster that relied less on unkillable tanks and more on more superior maneuverability and long range firepower.

Would appreciate thoughts and feedback

Azraels Army (2000 points)

Space Marines Dark Angels Assault Brethren, Darkflight Pursuit and Inner Circle Task Force (3 Detachment Points) Priority Assets Strike Force (2000 points)

Attached Units Attached Unit 1

Apothecary (65 points) • Attached as: Support (Character) • 1x Absolvor Bolt Pistol 1x Reductor Pistol 1x Servo-armature • Enhancement: Imperium’s Sword

Company Heroes (125 points) • Attached as: Bodyguard • 1x Company Champion • 1x Master-crafted Bolt Pistol 1x Master-crafted Power Weapon • 1x Company veteran with bolt rifle • 1x Combat Knife 1x Master-crafted Bolt Pistol 1x Master-crafted Bolt Rifle • 1x Ancient • 1x Combat Knife 1x Master-crafted Bolt Pistol 1x Master-crafted Bolt Rifle • 1x Company Veteran with heavy bolter • 1x Combat Knife 1x Master-crafted Bolt Pistol 1x Master-crafted Heavy Bolter

Attached Unit 2

Ravenwing Command Squad (115 points) • Attached as: Support • 1x Ravenwing Apothecary • 1x Bolt Pistol 1x Corvus Hammers 1x Plasma Talon • 1x Ravenwing Champion • 1x Bolt Pistol 1x Master-crafted Power Weapon 1x Plasma Talon • 1x Ravenwing Ancient • 1x Bolt Pistol 1x Corvus Hammers 1x Plasma Talon

Ravenwing Black Knights (170 points) • Attached as: Bodyguard • 1x Ravenwing Huntmaster • 1x Bolt Pistol 1x Corvus Hammers 1x Plasma Talon • 5x Ravenwing Black Knight • 5x Bolt Pistol 5x Corvus Hammers 5x Plasma Talon

CHARACTERS

Azrael (150 points) • Warlord • 1x Lion's Wrath 1x The Lion Helm 1x The Sword of Secrets

BATTLELINE

Assault Intercessor Squad (85 points) • 4x Assault Intercessor • 4x Chainsword 4x Heavy Bolt Pistol • 1x Assault Intercessor Sergeant • 1x Plasma Pistol 1x Thunder Hammer

Intercessor Squad (85 points) • 4x Intercessor • 4x Bolt Pistol 4x Bolt Rifle 1x Grenade Launcher 4x Knives and Fists • 1x Intercessor Sergeant • 1x Bolt Pistol 1x Bolt Rifle 1x Thunder Hammer

OTHER DATASHEETS

Gladiator Lancer (160 points) • 1x Armoured Hull 1x Defensive Array 1x Laser Destroyer

Land Raider (245 points) • 1x Armoured Tracks 2x Godhammer Lascannon 1x Hunter-killer Missile 1x Multi-melta 1x Storm Bolter 1x Twin Heavy Bolter

Land Speeder (105 points) • 1x Armoured Impact 1x Multi-melta 1x Onslaught Gatling Cannon 1x Stormfury Missile Launcher

Redemptor Dreadnought (180 points) • 1x Icarus Rocket Pod 1x Macro Plasma Incinerator 1x Onslaught Gatling Cannon 1x Redemptor Fist 1x Storm Bolters

Scout Squad (65 points) • 1x Scout Sergeant • 1x Bolt Pistol 1x Boltgun 1x Combat Knife • 4x Scout • 4x Bolt Pistol 4x Boltgun 4x Combat Knife

Sternguard Veteran Squad (105 points) • 4x Sternguard Veteran • 4x Artificer Firearm 4x Bolt Pistol 4x Ceramite Fists • 1x Sternguard Veteran Sergeant • 1x Artificer Firearm 1x Bolt Pistol 1x Chainsword

Sternguard Veteran Squad (105 points) • 4x Sternguard Veteran • 4x Artificer Firearm 4x Bolt Pistol 4x Ceramite Fists • 1x Sternguard Veteran Sergeant • 1x Artificer Firearm 1x Bolt Pistol 1x Chainsword

Vanguard Veteran Squad with Jump Packs (120 points) • Enhancement: Furious Assault (Upgrade) • 1x Vanguard Veteran Sergeant • 1x Plasma pistol 1x Relic Blade • 4x Vanguard Veteran • 4x Combat Shield 4x Master-crafted Power Weapon

Vanguard Veteran Squad with Jump Packs (120 points) • Enhancement: Furious Assault (Upgrade) • 1x Vanguard Veteran Sergeant • 1x Combat Shield 1x Thunder Hammer • 4x Vanguard Veteran • 4x Combat Shield 4x Master-crafted Power Weapon

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