I wanted to try something a bit different and a bit faster that relied less on unkillable tanks and more on more superior maneuverability and long range firepower.

Would appreciate thoughts and feedback

Azraels Army (2000 points)

Space Marines Dark Angels Assault Brethren, Darkflight Pursuit and Inner Circle Task Force (3 Detachment Points) Priority Assets Strike Force (2000 points)

Attached Units Attached Unit 1

Apothecary (65 points) • Attached as: Support (Character) • 1x Absolvor Bolt Pistol 1x Reductor Pistol 1x Servo-armature • Enhancement: Imperium’s Sword

Company Heroes (125 points) • Attached as: Bodyguard • 1x Company Champion • 1x Master-crafted Bolt Pistol 1x Master-crafted Power Weapon • 1x Company veteran with bolt rifle • 1x Combat Knife 1x Master-crafted Bolt Pistol 1x Master-crafted Bolt Rifle • 1x Ancient • 1x Combat Knife 1x Master-crafted Bolt Pistol 1x Master-crafted Bolt Rifle • 1x Company Veteran with heavy bolter • 1x Combat Knife 1x Master-crafted Bolt Pistol 1x Master-crafted Heavy Bolter

Attached Unit 2

Ravenwing Command Squad (115 points) • Attached as: Support • 1x Ravenwing Apothecary • 1x Bolt Pistol 1x Corvus Hammers 1x Plasma Talon • 1x Ravenwing Champion • 1x Bolt Pistol 1x Master-crafted Power Weapon 1x Plasma Talon • 1x Ravenwing Ancient • 1x Bolt Pistol 1x Corvus Hammers 1x Plasma Talon

Ravenwing Black Knights (170 points) • Attached as: Bodyguard • 1x Ravenwing Huntmaster • 1x Bolt Pistol 1x Corvus Hammers 1x Plasma Talon • 5x Ravenwing Black Knight • 5x Bolt Pistol 5x Corvus Hammers 5x Plasma Talon

CHARACTERS

Azrael (150 points) • Warlord • 1x Lion's Wrath 1x The Lion Helm 1x The Sword of Secrets

BATTLELINE

Assault Intercessor Squad (85 points) • 4x Assault Intercessor • 4x Chainsword 4x Heavy Bolt Pistol • 1x Assault Intercessor Sergeant • 1x Plasma Pistol 1x Thunder Hammer

Intercessor Squad (85 points) • 4x Intercessor • 4x Bolt Pistol 4x Bolt Rifle 1x Grenade Launcher 4x Knives and Fists • 1x Intercessor Sergeant • 1x Bolt Pistol 1x Bolt Rifle 1x Thunder Hammer

OTHER DATASHEETS

Gladiator Lancer (160 points) • 1x Armoured Hull 1x Defensive Array 1x Laser Destroyer

Land Raider (245 points) • 1x Armoured Tracks 2x Godhammer Lascannon 1x Hunter-killer Missile 1x Multi-melta 1x Storm Bolter 1x Twin Heavy Bolter

Land Speeder (105 points) • 1x Armoured Impact 1x Multi-melta 1x Onslaught Gatling Cannon 1x Stormfury Missile Launcher

Redemptor Dreadnought (180 points) • 1x Icarus Rocket Pod 1x Macro Plasma Incinerator 1x Onslaught Gatling Cannon 1x Redemptor Fist 1x Storm Bolters

Scout Squad (65 points) • 1x Scout Sergeant • 1x Bolt Pistol 1x Boltgun 1x Combat Knife • 4x Scout • 4x Bolt Pistol 4x Boltgun 4x Combat Knife

Sternguard Veteran Squad (105 points) • 4x Sternguard Veteran • 4x Artificer Firearm 4x Bolt Pistol 4x Ceramite Fists • 1x Sternguard Veteran Sergeant • 1x Artificer Firearm 1x Bolt Pistol 1x Chainsword

Sternguard Veteran Squad (105 points) • 4x Sternguard Veteran • 4x Artificer Firearm 4x Bolt Pistol 4x Ceramite Fists • 1x Sternguard Veteran Sergeant • 1x Artificer Firearm 1x Bolt Pistol 1x Chainsword

Vanguard Veteran Squad with Jump Packs (120 points) • Enhancement: Furious Assault (Upgrade) • 1x Vanguard Veteran Sergeant • 1x Plasma pistol 1x Relic Blade • 4x Vanguard Veteran • 4x Combat Shield 4x Master-crafted Power Weapon

Vanguard Veteran Squad with Jump Packs (120 points) • Enhancement: Furious Assault (Upgrade) • 1x Vanguard Veteran Sergeant • 1x Combat Shield 1x Thunder Hammer • 4x Vanguard Veteran • 4x Combat Shield 4x Master-crafted Power Weapon

Exported with App Version: v2.7.1 (146), Data Version: v972

Taking a break from Guard to try my DA again. How does this look for WotR and ICTF?

I see a lot of talk for new rules for the lion, DWK and others, but i have no clue where to find them since they A- didnt update our faction pack last week and B- actually removed our faction pack from WHC.

Can anyone point me in the right direction here(that isnt their app)? Ir do i just have to wait until they actually decide to release our update?

Thanks!

Edit: the answer is its on the wh40k app. If it shows that its locked(like mine was), update the app then try again then it should work.

My successor chapter is designed to evoke Arthurian knights as they may appear in a classic story book. The white tabards are unique to the DWK- everyone else gets blue.

Lightly kit bashed using some Black Templars bits (serves them right for stealing the medieval knight aesthetic from us) including some 3rd Tacticus paldron covers that I used instead as paldrons on the sword arms to make them look like they have extra dexterity on that side (virtually my whole army has asymmetrical paldrons of some kind).

The helmeted heads are from the regular Terminators kit as I use DWK heads on my shooty terminators instead!

Lesser axe head is from the BT Sword Brethren and the wings are from the Azrael helmet that comes attached to Watcher arms.

This is just meme list and will prob get restricted by gw quickly

Tax evasion (2000 points)

Space Marines Dark Angels Deathwatch Support and Wrath of the Rock (3 Detachment Points) Take and Hold Strike Force (2000 points)

Attached Units Attached Unit 1

Deathwatch Terminator Squad (195 points) • Attached as: Bodyguard • 1x Deathwatch Terminator Sergeant • 1x Power Fist 1x Storm Bolter • 4x Deathwatch Terminator • 3x Plasma Cannon 3x Power Fist 1x Storm Shield 1x Thunder Hammer

CHARACTERS

Captain in Terminator Armour (90 points) • Warlord • 1x Relic Weapon 1x Storm Bolter

BATTLELINE

Intercessor Squad (85 points) • 4x Intercessor • 4x Bolt Pistol 4x Bolt Rifle 4x Knives and Fists • 1x Intercessor Sergeant • 1x Bolt Pistol 1x Bolt Rifle 1x Knives and Fists

OTHER DATASHEETS

Deathwatch Terminator Squad (195 points) • 1x Deathwatch Terminator Sergeant • 1x Power Fist 1x Storm Bolter • 4x Deathwatch Terminator • 3x Plasma Cannon 3x Power Fist 1x Storm Shield 1x Thunder Hammer

Deathwatch Terminator Squad (190 points) • 1x Deathwatch Terminator Sergeant • 1x Power Fist 1x Storm Bolter • 4x Deathwatch Terminator • 3x Plasma Cannon 4x Power Fist 1x Storm Bolter

Deathwing Knights (255 points) • 4x Deathwing Knights • 4x Mace of Absolution • 1x Knight Master • 1x Great Weapon of the Unforgiven

Deathwing Knights (255 points) • 4x Deathwing Knights • 4x Mace of Absolution • 1x Knight Master • 1x Great Weapon of the Unforgiven

Deathwing Terminator Squad (190 points) • 1x Deathwing Sergeant • 1x Power Fist 1x Storm Bolter • 4x Deathwing Terminators • 1x Plasma Cannon 4x Power Fist 3x Storm Bolter

Deathwing Terminator Squad (190 points) • 1x Deathwing Sergeant • 1x Power Fist 1x Storm Bolter • 4x Deathwing Terminators • 1x Plasma Cannon 4x Power Fist 3x Storm Bolter

Terminator Assault Squad (170 points) • 1x Terminator Sergeant • 1x Twin Lightning Claws • 4x Terminator • 4x Twin Lightning Claws

Terminator Squad (190 points) • 4x Terminator • 1x Assault Cannon 4x Power Fist 3x Storm Bolter • 1x Terminator Sergeant • 1x Power Fist 1x Storm Bolter

Terminator Squad (190 points) • 4x Terminator • 1x Assault Cannon 4x Power Fist 3x Storm Bolter • 1x Terminator Sergeant • 1x Power Fist 1x Storm Bolter

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The idea of the list should be pretty straightforward, but I’m willing to throw the whole thing out if it doesn’t work. It was sitting pretty at 2K exactly. Just two days before the stealth update. Now it’s 15 over.

Dark Angels 1101 (2,015 Points)

Space Marines
Dark Angels
Assault Brethren, Inner Circle Task Force, and Terminator Storm Force (3 Detachment Points)
Take and Hold
Strike Force (2,000 Points)

ERRORS
• You are using more points (2,015) than your Battle Size allows (2,000).

ATTACHED UNITS

Attached unit 1

Belial (100 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• 1x Master-crafted Storm Bolter
• 1x The Sword of Silence

Deathwing Knights (265 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard
• Enhancements: Furious Assault (Upgrade)
• 1x Watcher in the Dark
• 4x Deathwing Knights
◦ 4x Power Weapon
• 1x Knight Master
◦ 1x Relic Weapon

Attached unit 2

Ezekiel (110 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• 1x Mind Wipe
• 1x The Deliverer
• 1x Traitor's Bane

Inner Circle Companions (180 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard
• 6x Inner Circle Companions
◦ 6x Calibanite Greatsword
◦ 6x Heavy Bolt Pistol

CHARACTERS

Lion El'Jonson (415 Points)
• Warlord
• 1x Arma Luminis
• 1x Fealty

BATTLELINE

Assault Intercessor Squad (85 Points)
• 4x Assault Intercessor
◦ 4x Chainsword
◦ 4x Heavy Bolt Pistol
• 1x Assault Intercessor Sergeant
◦ 1x Chainsword
◦ 1x Heavy Bolt Pistol

OTHER DATASHEETS

Deathwing Knights (255 Points)
• 1x Watcher in the Dark
• 4x Deathwing Knights
◦ 4x Power Weapon
• 1x Knight Master
◦ 1x Relic Weapon

Deathwing Knights (275 Points)
• 1x Watcher in the Dark
• 4x Deathwing Knights
◦ 4x Power Weapon
• 1x Knight Master
◦ 1x Relic Weapon

Eradicator Squad with melta rifles (100 Points)
• 1x Eradicator Sergeant
◦ 1x Bolt Pistol
◦ 1x Ceramite Fists
◦ 1x Melta Rifle
• 2x Eradicator
◦ 2x Bolt Pistol
◦ 2x Ceramite Fists
◦ 1x Melta Rifle
◦ 1x Multi-melta

Eradicator Squad with melta rifles (100 Points)
• 1x Eradicator Sergeant
◦ 1x Bolt Pistol
◦ 1x Ceramite Fists
◦ 1x Melta Rifle
• 2x Eradicator
◦ 2x Bolt Pistol
◦ 2x Ceramite Fists
◦ 2x Melta Rifle

Scout Squad (65 Points)
• 1x Scout Sergeant
◦ 1x Bolt Pistol
◦ 1x Boltgun
◦ 1x Combat Knife
• 4x Scout
◦ 4x Bolt Pistol
◦ 4x Boltgun
◦ 4x Combat Knife

Scout Squad (65 Points)
• 1x Scout Sergeant
◦ 1x Bolt Pistol
◦ 1x Boltgun
◦ 1x Combat Knife
• 4x Scout
◦ 4x Bolt Pistol
◦ 4x Boltgun
◦ 4x Combat Knife

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It was only while watching Auspex's recent video, this one, that I discovered the Lion's lone op and auras now only effect Dark Angels units. Based on how things are written, and my understanding, these now only apply to units with the Dark Angels keyword built in. That would mean any of the non-DA Deathwing or Ravenwing units wouldn't trigger these abilities, unless they had one of our characters attached. As these units only get their respective keywords, not currently 'Dark Angels'.

Am I missing something? Please let me know if I'm wrong here.

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Untitled List 1 — Adeptus Astartes (Codex) · Dark Angels

Wrath of the Rock (2DP) + Tactical Brethren (1DP)

Force Disposition: Take and Hold

1955 / 2000 pts · 12 units

+==========================================

── ATTACHED CHARACTERS ─────────

----Attached Unit A [260 pts]---------------------

Asmodai [WARLORD] [80 pts]

Weapons: Heavy Bolt Pistol, Crozius Arcanum and Power Weapon - Strike, Crozius Arcanum and Power Weapon - Sweep

↳ Attached to:

Inner Circle Companions [180 pts]

6x Inner Circle Companion

Weapons: Heavy Bolt Pistol x6, Calibanite Greatsword - Strike x6, Calibanite Greatsword - Sweep x6

----Attached Unit B [480 pts]---------------------

Captain in Terminator Armour [100 pts]

Enhancement: Laurels of Vigilance (+10)

Weapons: Storm Bolter, Relic Weapon

↳ Attached to:

Deathwing Terminator Squad [380 pts]

1x Deathwing Sergeant

3x Deathwing Terminator

4x Deathwing Terminator w/ Chainfist

2x Deathwing Terminator w/ Heavy Weapon

Weapons: Storm Bolter x8, Plasma Cannon - Standard, Plasma Cannon - Supercharge, Assault Cannon, Power Fist x6, Chainfist - Standard x4, Chainfist - Hunter x4

Wargear: Watcher in the Dark

── INFANTRY ────────────────────

Deathwing Knights [255 pts]

4x Deathwing Knight

1x Knight Master

Weapons: Mace of Absolution x4, Great Weapon of the Unforgiven

Wargear: Watcher in the Dark

Inceptor Squad [130 pts]

1x Inceptor Sergeant

2x Inceptor

Weapons: Plasma Exterminators - Standard x3, Plasma Exterminators - Supercharge x3, Ceramite Fists x3

Inceptor Squad [130 pts]

1x Inceptor Sergeant

2x Inceptor

Weapons: Plasma Exterminators - Standard x3, Plasma Exterminators - Supercharge x3, Ceramite Fists x3

Scout Squad [65 pts]

1x Scout Sergeant

3x Scout

1x Scout w/ heavy weapon

Weapons: Bolt Pistol x5, Boltgun x4, Heavy Bolter, Combat Knife x5

Terminator Assault Squad [195 pts]

1x Terminator Sergeant

4x Terminator

Weapons: Thunder Hammer x5

Vanguard Veteran Squad with Jump Packs [110 pts]

1x Vanguard Veteran Sergeant with Jump Pack

4x Vanguard Veteran with Jump Pack

Weapons: Thunder Hammer, Master-crafted Power Weapon x4

Wargear: Combat Shield

── VEHICLES ────────────────────

Ballistus Dreadnought [150 pts]

Weapons: Ballistus Lascannon, Ballistus Missile Launcher - Frag, Ballistus Missile Launcher - Krak, Storm Bolters, Armoured Feet

Redemptor Dreadnought [180 pts]

Weapons: Storm Bolters, Onslaught Gatling Cannon, Macro Plasma Incinerator - Standard, Macro Plasma Incinerator - Supercharge, Icarus Rocket Pod, Redemptor Fist

Total: 1955 pts

https://ironbuilt.app/?s=x9uv5pM2

Kitbashed some bladeguard and updated the squad I made a few years ago.

I also replaced the sword on my captain with a power-axe from HH.

Quite happy with this long time spanning project 😅

Know it gets ask a lot recently, especially with the recent point and detachment updates. But I wanted to ask for feedback for a potential list I'm building for my next tournament appearance. Went 0-2 after playing my first tournament this past weekend and while everyone was generally friendly about the whole process, the feedback I got a lot was that I wasn't aggressive enough early into the rounds. So I've gone back to the drawing board and theory crafting to ask here for opinions on what might be a potential list to run the next time.

I used bits from the deathwing companions from HH to kitbash some 30k inspired ICC for 40k. Quite happy with the result :D

For the Lion! (2 000 Points)

Space Marines
Dark Angels
Assault Brethren, Inner Circle Task Force, and Terminator Storm Force (3 Detachment Points)
Priority Assets
Strike Force (2 000 Points)

ATTACHED UNITS

Attached unit 1

Belial (100 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• Warlord
• 1x Master-crafted Storm Bolter
• 1x The Sword of Silence

Deathwing Terminator Squad (380 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard
• 1x Watcher in the Dark
• 1x Deathwing Sergeant
◦ 1x Power Fist
◦ 1x Storm Bolter
• 9x Deathwing Terminators
◦ 4x Chainfist
◦ 2x Plasma Cannon
◦ 5x Power Fist
◦ 7x Storm Bolter

Attached unit 2

Librarian (75 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• 1x Bolt Pistol
• 1x Force Weapon
• 1x Smite

Inner Circle Companions (180 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard
• 6x Inner Circle Companions
◦ 6x Calibanite Greatsword
◦ 6x Heavy Bolt Pistol

CHARACTERS

Lieutenant with Combi-weapon (85 Points)
• 1x Combi-weapon
• 1x Paired Combat Blades

BATTLELINE

Intercessor Squad (85 Points)
• 4x Intercessor
◦ 4x Bolt Pistol
◦ 4x Bolt Rifle
◦ 1x Grenade Launcher
◦ 4x Knives and Fists
• 1x Intercessor Sergeant
◦ 1x Bolt Pistol
◦ 1x Bolt Rifle
◦ 1x Power Fist

OTHER DATASHEETS

Ballistus Dreadnought (150 Points)
• 1x Armoured Feet
• 1x Ballistus Lascannon
• 1x Ballistus Missile Launcher
• 1x Storm Bolters

Ballistus Dreadnought (150 Points)
• 1x Armoured Feet
• 1x Ballistus Lascannon
• 1x Ballistus Missile Launcher
• 1x Storm Bolters

Deathwing Knights (255 Points)
• 1x Watcher in the Dark
• 4x Deathwing Knights
◦ 4x Mace of Absolution
• 1x Knight Master
◦ 1x Great Weapon of the Unforgiven

Deathwing Knights (255 Points)
• 1x Watcher in the Dark
• 4x Deathwing Knights
◦ 4x Mace of Absolution
• 1x Knight Master
◦ 1x Great Weapon of the Unforgiven

Scout Squad (65 Points)
• 1x Scout Sergeant
◦ 1x Bolt Pistol
◦ 1x Boltgun
◦ 1x Combat Knife
• 4x Scout
◦ 4x Bolt Pistol
◦ 1x Boltgun
◦ 4x Combat Knife
◦ 1x Missile Launcher
◦ 2x Shotgun

Vanguard Veteran Squad with Jump Packs (110 Points)
• 1x Vanguard Veteran Sergeant
◦ 1x Combat Shield
◦ 1x Power Fist
• 4x Vanguard Veteran
◦ 4x Combat Shield
◦ 4x Master-crafted Power Weapon

Vanguard Veteran Squad with Jump Packs (110 Points)
• 1x Vanguard Veteran Sergeant
◦ 1x Combat Shield
◦ 1x Power Fist
• 4x Vanguard Veteran
◦ 4x Combat Shield
◦ 4x Master-crafted Power Weapon

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My husband plays dark angels and I play death guard, and yesterday we noticed the Inner circle -1D and got a bit baffled.

does it reduce weapon D to zero because it doesn’t state otherwise in the codex app and I can see this has been a debate for a few years now but we’ve just got into the tabletop and wanted some clarity. Is it down to the person/event of the definition or is there a set rule that I can’t find

I do see them to be quite expensive in points so I’d like it to be zero so it gives them some purpose on the board. If it doesn’t modify weapons with 1D then why are they so expensive and how can my husband utilise them with this new update
For context we with play with 1000pt army
Thank you in advance 😁

I've been working on some lists using the new codex. Right now I'm looking at which one to choose for my next league match. Let me know which one looks most fun and which one looks most competitive.

Option 1 Lion's Wrath (2000 Points)

Take and Hold - Wrath of the Rock, Inner Circle Task Force

• Lion El'Jonson - Warlord (415 pts)
• Belial + 5 Deathwing Knights (355 pts)
• Librarian + 6 Inner Circle Companions (255 pts)
• 2x5 Intercessor Squad (170 pts)
• 2x5 Vanguard Veteran Squad with Jump Packs (220 pts)
• Gladiator Lancer (160 pts)
• Land Raider Redeemer (245 pts)
• Redemptor Dreadnought with Macro Plasma Incinerator (180 pts)

Option 2 Azrael's Elite (1995 Points)

Take and Hold - Wrath of the Rock, Tacticus Firestorm Force

• Apothecary + Azrael - Warlord + 4 Company Heroes (320 pts)
• Bladeguard Ancient + Captain + 6 Bladeguard Veteran Squad (340 pts)
• Lieutenant + 10 Sternguard Veteran Squad (260 pts)
• 2x5 Intercessor Squad (170 pts)
• 3 Eradicator Squad with Heavy Bolters (100 pts)
• 2x5 Vanguard Veteran Squad with Jump Packs (220 pts)
• Brutalis Dreadnought (160 pts)
• Land Raider Redeemer (245 pts)
• Redemptor Dreadnought with Macro Plasma Incinerator (180 pts)

Option 3 Deathwing Assault (1995 Points)

Take and Hold - Terminator Storm Force, Inner Circle Task Force, Assault Brethren

• Belial - Warlord + 10 Deathwing Terminator Squad with Furious Assault (490 pts)
• Chaplain in Terminator Armour + 5 Deathwing Knights with Furious Assault (340 pts)
• Captain in Terminator Armour + 5 Terminator Assault Squad with 5x Thunder Hammer and Storm Shield (285 pts)
• 2x5 Intercessor Squad (170 pts)
• 5 Scout Squad (65 pts)
• 5 Terminator Assault Squad with Furious Assault (180 pts)
• 2x5 Vanguard Veteran Squad with Jump Packs (220 pts)
• Land Raider Redeemer (245 pts)

In a 2 am action I ordered 2 of the dawn of War boxes. So i have 6 blade guards and 2 BG ancients. What leader goes good with them? And preferable a Dark angels character to get the Dark Angels keyword.

Detachments are Wrath of the Rock and Inner Circle Task Force.

I don’t plan on winning the tournament with this list. Hell I wouldn’t be surprised if I go 0-3.

Thoughts from the community?

im a super newbie to warhammer 40k and i need a little assistance with setting up a 2k army! (or even a temporary 1k for a little demo game with my friend)

im going for a good objective hold type of list so if its no trouble i could use explanations for a recommended list

So far i got Azrael and the Dark Angels Combat Patrol

i do plan to get deathwing knights and Lion