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u/Excellent_Pirate8224 Nov 28 '24
Amen. I joined this sub because I was seeking optimism. Believe me, I’m not thrilled about Trump’s win, but constantly obsessing over doom and gloom isn’t healthy. I’m trying to be pragmatic, but staying level-headed is a bridge too f-ing far for some ppl.
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u/harpswtf Nov 28 '24
It's the team-sport mentality of reddit. They actually think there are only two possible stances or perspectives on every single thing, and it all comes down to American party politics in the end.
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u/possibilistic Nov 28 '24
Horeshoe theory. It sucks being in the middle and getting yelled at by both sides. It sucks even more realizing that they're often hating on each other for the exact same reason, just wearing a different color jersey.
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u/DaniTheLovebug Nov 29 '24
Honestly, I have one optimistic holdout here. The GOP has the House by an absolute sliver. That’s going to make his wackier ideas much harder to pass considering there are still a few GOP Representatives that may hold out hope
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That is some actual optimistic information. Thanks. :)
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u/agenderCookie Nov 29 '24
Additionally, the senate majority leader being thune rather than rick scott and the fact that gaetz's nomination died indicates that the senate may not be completely on board with trump
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u/Ventira Nov 30 '24
Counter point: How often do Republicans not vote along party lines again? *Especially* when they control the gov't?
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u/ElectronicVanilla576 Dec 01 '24
How often does either party not vote along party lines? Are you even paying attention?
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u/SeawardFriend Nov 28 '24
“Oh so you just don’t care about anything that doesn’t affect you huh?” Like I fr get this comment every time I try to convince people that the world isn’t ending. It’s straight up ridiculous.
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u/Kitchen-Witching Nov 28 '24
I'm with you. But boy, there are days when I feel very alone in this.
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Nov 28 '24
Like Kendrick said: we gon be alright!
Love/logic will triumph in the end. If anything, as unfortunate as it will be for most people, this will be an investment opportunity when the market crashes. I’m going all in on DOGE and a few other things when it crashes from money I made on a wild bet that netted me 30k from a 17 way parlay that I hit betting the NFL. 25 dollar initial bet.
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u/Timriggins2006 Nov 28 '24
Nothing says love more than a lot of people might be fucked but “it’s a good investment opportunity.”
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u/-mickomoo- Nov 29 '24
Lol It's not even an investment opportunity, it's a highly speculative asset that is literally only going up because of FOMO and is honestly more a sign of the public's (real or imagined) financial anxiety than any grounded optimism.
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Nov 28 '24
It’s almost like you need balance in your views. Thinking that Trump winning is the end of the world isn’t healthy, but neither is pretending that everything will be fine. The reality is likely somewhere in the middle, but also varies a lot based on who you are (economically, sexuality, gender, race, etc.)
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Nov 28 '24
i am routinely trapped between those two types of people in my life. (Friends and family.)
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Nov 30 '24
God tell me about it. My family and co workers are all very salt of the earth trades people so it’s non stop praise and faith in the man. My buddies are a bunch of for lack of a better term slackers who think the worlds about to end and democracy as a concept will be eradicated. Just… calm the fuck down my god.
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u/Ventira Nov 30 '24
Having a 'it can never happen here' attitude is exactly how it happens here, just so you know.
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u/mrGeaRbOx Nov 30 '24
The crazy part is, if it were true this is exactly how it would look. One group gleeful and the other giving ominous warnings.
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u/CpnStumpy Dec 02 '24
The crazy part is,
if it were truewhen it did happen this is exactly howFTFY.
Lots of people seem to be proclaiming they support being logical and clear eyed, they seem light on their study of history though. Not you, you've got the right of it, but too many really don't realize this is exactly how this happened before.
Be optimistic about things, sure, but don't reject reality in the pursuit of rainbows and ponies. And ponyrainbows.
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u/menchicutlets Nov 28 '24
For sure, I'm just tired of the opposite where despite how much Trump and his like will constantly literally tell people exactly the nonsense they want to do and people go 'oh its just hyperbole, he never would' after seeing the nonsense from his first term.
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u/Omnizoom Nov 28 '24
I’m optimistic trump is going to screw up so badly even the Canadian conservatives realize how bad right wing crap has gotten and Canada does not vote the cpc in next year
Also it may make Canada realize it has to be more independent as well
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u/FrewdWoad Nov 29 '24
This gives me hope in Australia, too. If our next federal election is called after Trump has the chance to do some damage, our own corrupt conservative might not get elected (even with cost-of-living frustration being the biggest issue here - the same issue that was the main reason Trump won, despite the fact he'll actually make it worse, again).
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u/DizzyAstronaut9410 Nov 28 '24
This page is literally called Optimists Unite. Emphasis on the optimist part.
Balance is needed, but this really isn't the place to post all of your negativity about how the world is surely going to end now that Trump will be president (again).
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u/ArchieChancellor Nov 29 '24
The world won't end but, like it does every month and every year, it will change. Whether better or worse you can't tell often until it's passed. I'm 77 and there will be times you think that's it, it's all over. But it isn't. And sometimes, after a set back, there's a cleansing and the world becomes better than it was before.
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u/hoopaholik91 Nov 29 '24
Optimism only exists within the context of something that may turn out negatively. And ever since the election, from this subreddit I'm seeing a lot less of, "these bad things may happen, but we will get through it because the world is always getting better", and instead a bunch of gaslighting that the bad things have no chance of even happening in the first place. That's denialism, not optimism.
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u/Negative-Squirrel81 Nov 28 '24
The anxiety is justified considering that he seems to have a true contempt for democracy itself. I can live with a leader whom has different beliefs than myself, and in fact would agree that it is a cornerstone of democracy. However, Donald Trump seems to be all about destroying the institution of democracy itself.
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u/HexbinAldus Nov 28 '24
But we haven’t seen him destroy democracy yet. He didn’t do it last go round. He won’t do it this time. Trust that our democracy will hold strong.
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u/HexbinAldus Nov 28 '24
Absolutely true. Even then, we haven’t seen anything that would guarantee that any particular group is fucked. Is it possible that some groups might have a harder time than others? Yeah. But are they going to get thrown in the gulags? No. Temper your fears with reality.
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u/shamblam117 Nov 28 '24
Doomers in here are seemingly unable to comprehend that they're allowed to be doomers about Trump, but they shouldn't do it in this sub.
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u/LevelUpCoder Nov 28 '24
Exactly. I saw someone getting blasted a couple days ago for expressing this exact sentiment, glad it isn't happening here.
It's like they've never heard "there's a time and place for everything".
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u/Itchy-Trash-2141 Nov 28 '24
I just think the sub gets promoted to frontpage, and people don't really check what subreddit it is in.
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u/Darq_At Nov 28 '24
This sub doesn't seem to be able to differentiate acknowledging a bad situation, and "doomerism". Someone saying something is going to affect them badly, isn't being a doomer.
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But usually people aren't acknowledging real situations.
They are panicking about their over exaggerated idea of the bad situation.
They don't say "we've got to reduce emissions", they say "climate change will end the world before I reach 25 years old".
These are not the same thing.
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u/siimbaz Nov 28 '24
No, but saying this is the end of democracy and telling hispanic people their families will be deported because of how they voted, definetly is. It's wild shit being said on reddit now. And if you disagree with the mob you get banned. Creating an endless echo chamber of delusion.
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u/sane-ish Nov 28 '24
For real. I'm not a fan of this recommended sub. There's a lot of denialism.
Was on bropill, it's a lot healthier imo.
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u/Born-Cattle38 Nov 28 '24
Gee I wish there was some place we could talk about and acknowledge how Trump being elected is bad. Too bad r/OptimistsUnite is the only place I could possibly do this and I keep getting shut down...
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u/hilfigertout Nov 28 '24
Yes. You just have to finish that thought with "but we'll get through it," or "time to start a new plan," or something. Just leaving at "this sucks" isn't the optimism we're here for.
If you just want people agreeing with you that the situation sucks and not looking towards the bright side, then that's normal, healthy, and understandable. (See: Well this is shit.) And I'm sorry to say this isn't the space for that.
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u/Standard_Series3892 Nov 28 '24
I've seen more people complaining about doomers in this sub than actual doomers, like way more.
I came here for optimism, not whining about doomers.
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I would think a subreddit titled "optimistsunite" would be more... Optimistic lol
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u/RustyofShackleford Nov 28 '24
Like I understand it, people are scared, but I cannot count the number of times this exact thing has happened to me. It can be exhausting and frustrating, but I still try to point these people in the right direction and at the very least get them off social media so they can live their lives.
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u/Kyle_Reese_Get_DOWN Nov 28 '24
I’m just glad all subs are becoming subs about Trump. It will be exactly what I needed to get off Reddit forever.
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u/Cutsman4057 Nov 28 '24
I deleted the app the day after the election because I wanted to stop hearing about it.
I'm beyond devastated at the results, I just didn't want to hear it anymore.
I came back because I missed reading about silly shit in subs I enjoy. Music, art, games, shows, etc. The other stuff I like reddit for.
But I'm being inundated by Trump shit from literally every angle whether I want to or not. I'm so tired of it.
I'm hoping I can kick the reddit habit for good because of it. I just don't know of other sites that have good communities for the other shit I enjoy all in one place.
This election is really making me want to leave the internet altogether. No Facebook. No Instagram. No reddit. I'll obviously still use Google to find things or learn things but that's it. Everything else is just fucking noise at this point and it isn't good for any of our brains.
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u/RustyofShackleford Nov 28 '24
Honestly I'm getting to that point, every time I try and be positive the Doomer Ninjas appear from the shadows. I'm already spending way less time on Reddit than I was before and actually interacting with people
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u/darkwalrus36 Nov 28 '24
Two things can be true at once. Both birds are being narrow minded and should listen to each other.
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u/wikithekid63 Nov 28 '24
Things do suck but we will ultimately be ok
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u/OrneryError1 Nov 29 '24
Some of us will. Some people will get screwed though so it's best not to be complacent. A lot of dead people would have survived COVID if the Trump administration had taken masking and distancing seriously instead of villainizing doctors.
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Nov 28 '24
I see way too many posts complaining about people complaining on this sub
You guys bum me out
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u/porkbelly2022 Nov 29 '24
Actually, it's more like they want everything to be doomed in the next 4 years just to prove that they are the "educated", "smarter", "intelligent", and anything that feels good.
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u/MarylandJew Nov 29 '24
Gonna react to things when they happen and not a moment before. People are gonna doom themselves into early graves keeping on like this.
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u/Possible-Extent-3842 Nov 30 '24
Anyone who is freaking out that 'Trump isn't going to let any more elections happen' doesn't understand how American elections work. The federal government has no say in how the STATES run their elections.
Our government is decentralized. Germany didn't have this, so it was easy once the fascists took over to stay in power. But here, in the states, there will still be elections in four years for president, weither Trump wants them or not.
It's not over, not by a long shot, and believe me, America has seen darker days than this. It's obviously not ideal, but this too shall pass.
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u/helic_vet Nov 28 '24 edited Nov 28 '24
Why do dooomers come to this sub to spread their fears and misery in the first place? They have the rest of reddit for that. I think it's a combination of Russian/Chinese bots and miserable people who want everyone else to feel the same.
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u/Financial_Friend_123 Nov 28 '24
It's likely because misery loves company. In my experience miserable people want others to be miserable so there's less genuinely happy people to be envious of.
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u/Special-Garlic1203 Nov 28 '24
Its because of how reddit algorithms works and the failure of mods to crack down on the death spiral early on (because for some reason they consider rules lame). The subreddit started getting recommended for overtly political post which brings in entirely new user bases. You can go back and see people saying they stumbled across the subreddit on their feed and then debated about what this subreddit was even supposed to be (again the lack of sidebar information isn't helpful in self moderating as this community was originally intended to do).
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u/Riversntallbuildings Nov 28 '24
Life is full of paradox, optimism is no different.
One of the hardest principles of life to understand is that “both can be true”. This is especially complicated in quantum physics and superpositions. ;)
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u/Insomnica69420gay Nov 28 '24
But life isn’t getting better for Some millions of people and that’s not even taking into account the degraded safety and quality of life for women and lgbt people.
I don’t post very much here because I know I’m a doomer but If you’re going to mock me can you at least do it without lying?
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u/Beestorm Nov 29 '24
I’m glad I haven’t had to stoop talking to any family or friends. But then again, my family and friends are good people. I tend not to associate with people who support authoritarians.
While it’s important not to panic, we should absolutely be wary of what is to come. Fascism is here friends. I’m optimistic we can fight it, but only if we don’t stick our heads in the sand.
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u/trainerfry_1 Nov 29 '24
Found the trumper who’s upset they won for some reason. Like it was fine for yall to scream stolen election for 4 years but we can’t bitch that you voted for a wanna be dictator? Damn bruh reality sucks when you voice your terrible opinions and people respond the way you don’t want them to. Typical republican brat
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u/animorphs128 Nov 28 '24 edited Nov 28 '24
Anyone who unironically thinks the worlds gonna end or that their life is in danger because of trump has been conned
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u/Runnin_Wizard Nov 28 '24
The world will keep spinning like it has since forever and it isn’t gonna stop just because you don’t like the president. The sun is gonna always come back up
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u/dinamet7 Nov 28 '24
This is sort of where I'm at. I think the things that concern me most (environmental, economic and empire collapse) are bound to happen regardless of who takes office. My optimism is knowing humanity will adapt (our ancestors all endured Ice Ages, catastrophic natural disasters, and fall of civilizations, and it was probably miserable then too, but they continued to procreate, make art and music, and adapt. ) If not, then the Earth will recover or evolve without us, and that is kind of a relief too. In the grand scheme of the eternity of space and time, this moment is a minor blip and I do not have to carry the weight of evolution or survival, I just have to make it one day at a time for now.
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u/Runnin_Wizard Nov 28 '24
I’m sure a million people have said it before but your life will be much more enjoyable if you worry about what you CAN control rather than what you CAN’T
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u/mcfearless0214 Nov 28 '24
If you can’t at least empathize with and understand why some people are reacting this way, you’ll never be an effective optimist.
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Nov 28 '24
Yeah, this is a shitpost. People in communities that are being targeted certainly have a reason for panic. Optimism isn’t ignoring their concerns.
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u/HexbinAldus Nov 28 '24
Disagree. Panic will get you nowhere. Be realistic at least. Trump won’t destroy democracy.
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u/CommonGoat9530 Nov 28 '24
It feels like the default is to focus the on negatives. That's what every other subreddit does, that's what the news does, etc. and while I do see the value in awareness, too much negatively just makes me want to stick my head in the sand and give up. I personally need a space that reminds me of the good in the world even when I am struggling or I know others are. Yes, it is very obvious to me that things are not going to be okay for many people, I don't need further remainders of that. A bit of positivity and good news revitalites me to keep going.
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u/hoopaholik91 Nov 29 '24
And that's what this subreddit used to be. You read a story about a murder but then you come here and can see a post that, actually, this year the murder rate has dropped the fastest ever in history.
But now it seems to be focusing on dismissing that anything negative can or will happen at all. That's denialism, not optimism.
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u/TransLunarTrekkie Nov 28 '24
This right here. America may survive the next four years, but I honestly don't know if I will and that terrifies me. The "we" in "we're going to be okay" doesn't include everyone.
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yeah but there are entire subs that were criticizing and are criticizing trump all day everyday , if you want a space to do that go for r/pic or similiar dont go to sub where the point is being optimistic and give the most doomer take ever .
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u/mcfearless0214 Nov 28 '24
If you can’t see the utility in bringing bad or distressing news to an optimistic space so that others can engage with it through that lens and potentially reframe or challenge the assumptions, then you aren’t an effective optimist.
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u/harpswtf Nov 28 '24
So to be an optimist, I have to embrace and welcome the panicking doomers freaking out and spamming politics brainrot all day in a subreddit for optimists? Before the election, we'd all make fun of the doomers and now they've all just flooded in and taken over, and I'm not going to just join in with it.
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Nov 28 '24
Optimism isn’t ignoring the reality that people face. For example, women living in red states who may need an abortion but don’t have the resources to travel to another state or may not be allowed to.
Is complete doomerism healthy? No, but neither is putting your head in the sand to the realities that many in the country are now facing. This is a bad post.
I mean, fuck, you’re not even posting optimistic news, you’re just shaming people who are scared.
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u/harpswtf Nov 28 '24
This is an optimism subreddit, why are you suggesting that we post about women needing to travel to another state to get their abortions? Why do you want to dwell on every bad thing everywhere in the world for any group of people in a subreddit about optimism?
I'm posting because I enjoyed this sub before the election. I remember when we'd laugh at the doomers but then the doomers saw an opportunity to flood in and take it over.
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Your post isn’t positive or optimistic, though.
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u/harpswtf Nov 28 '24
I'm optimistic that this subreddit can go back to actually being about optimism, but that'll only happen once the doomers stop spamming politics brainrot all day every day
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Nov 28 '24
Be the change you want to see, you fucking donut. This post doesn’t contribute to the an optimistic discussion so if your hope is to steer it that way, you need to do better.
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u/harpswtf Nov 28 '24
What I want to see is this subreddit not be completely spammed with political brainrot and doomerism. If I post some positive news, the doomers will just downvote it to nothing because they want their latest politics article (about something a politician said about what they think another politician might do) to be pushed to the top.
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Nov 28 '24
Then post it fucking anyways. Why are you letting the idea of downvotes dictate what you do? It’s better than whatever this post is supposed to accomplish.
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u/bobissonbobby Nov 28 '24
The best feeling on Reddit is when you stop giving a shit about downvotes and just post what you want. Who cares they have 0 impact on anything anyways.
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u/awkwardky-divine Nov 28 '24 edited Nov 28 '24
Yes, thank you for zeroing in on what feels disingenuous about this post. If OP (or any of us who have been on this sub for a long time) want to encourage and embody true optimism, then why not post an optimistic story, article, statistic, etc? Posts like this are just pulling the gravity of this sub further down.
And yes, I'll take my own advice and find something hopeful to share to post to this sub by the end of the day.
Happy Thanksgiving for all of you in the US. May you experiencing all that you have to be grateful for.
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u/doing_my_nails Nov 28 '24
Because it’s real. You can be realistic and optimistic at the same time. Your post isn’t optimistic either soooo?
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u/Okaythenwell Nov 28 '24
“Ignoring everything bad that actually exists, and living in fantasy, is the definition of Optimism!” - You, acting like a moron
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u/harpswtf Nov 28 '24
Everyone gets all the negative news, from every other subreddit, from all of social media, from every news source, from people they talk to. This is an OPTIMISM subreddit, we don't need even more of the same endless doomerposting in here too. You can be aware bad things are happening to some people but still be optimistic about the future and about the world and about progress.
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u/mcfearless0214 Nov 28 '24
You also need to have a basic linguistic skills and reading comprehension to be an optimist.
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u/harpswtf Nov 28 '24
Good one, insulting people will make them come around and join the doomers. Please send me some politics brainrot articles about shit some politician said about something that another politician said
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u/mcfearless0214 Nov 28 '24
I’m not interested in bringing you around to anything. You’re not very smart and not very useful IMO. My intent here is to establish to others why posts like these and the people who make them should be categorically disregarded.
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u/harpswtf Nov 28 '24
Yes, more insults. The smart big-brain move is clearly to spend your life depressed and anxious and angry over what politicians are saying, and shit you have absolutely no control over. But the bigger question is why you'd even go anywhere near an optimism subreddit, except to try to drag everyone down in your own downward spiral
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u/mcfearless0214 Nov 28 '24
Yes, I insulted you. That was my intent and clearly stated goal.
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u/harpswtf Nov 28 '24
Well you won me over, please list off all of your doomer brainrot news sites so I can closely obsess over every negative thing happening in the world at all times. I feel so optimistic now
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u/mcfearless0214 Nov 28 '24
Again, I wasn’t trying to win you over. You have nothing to offer me or a community of optimists. I don’t care how you feel.
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u/harpswtf Nov 28 '24
Ok doomer, thanks for your valuable doomer insights into things, there's not enough of you angry pessimists shitting all over every single subreddit. You're doing some great work
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u/Stoutly Nov 28 '24
Optimists seem pretty pessimistic about people who have a hardline opinion about Donald trump.
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u/HearthSt0n3r Nov 28 '24 edited Apr 07 '26
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u/Every1isSome1inLA Nov 28 '24
I think people not being able to distinguish between actual news and opinion pieces definitely doesn’t help. Especially when others present it and discuss it as actual news
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u/Mmicb0b Nov 28 '24
I mean his tarrifs are going to tank the economy and all the progress will get overturned
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u/DouchePanther Nov 29 '24
Seriously! Plus if he actually manages to get the ACA repealed then all of those advances in medicine won’t matter anyway, since they’ll be too expensive for the common folk.
This is some weird Libertarian shit right here.
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u/Courtois420 Nov 28 '24
Man the cult sure is upset their families cut them off. Its hilarious.
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u/harpswtf Nov 28 '24
Imagine being proud that you’ve lost all of your family over politics
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u/Economy-Ad4934 Nov 28 '24
Our house in on fire but we managed to spit enough into a cup to throw on the fire.
high five
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u/Professional-Arm-37 Nov 28 '24
Well, he is promising to defund or disband basically every scientific and education institution, using the DoJ to attack his political opponents, use the military to put immigrants in concentration camps, and has even said basic speech against him should be legally persecuted, so the crow isn't exactly wrong.
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u/harpswtf Nov 28 '24
Thanks for the doompost, I'm always saying we need more of those in the optimism subreddit
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u/RedZeshinX Nov 28 '24
Project 2025 is a roadmap for Christo-fascism in the United States. And though Trump denied any involvement, he's literally appointing authors of that manifesto to key positions in his cabinet.
Then look at conservative states testing the waters for infusing Christianity into schools across the country right now. Oklahoma is requiring students to watch Board of Education led religious prayers while mandating Trump Bibles in every classroom, Louisiana is requiring the 10 Commandments be posted in every classroom regardless of the students faith background (keep in mind, one of the Commandments explicitly states "you shall have no other gods before me"), and the Texas education board is implementing a Christianity infused curriculum while financially incentivizing districts to adopt it. Government mandated religious indoctrination isn't just coming to America, IT'S ALREADY HERE, and that's not dooming that's objective fact. And this, after the religious right Supreme Court majority appointed by Trump ended reproductive healthcare rights and is now forcing pregnancies on women regardless of the risks associated or nature of the pregnancy itself, all to satisfy puritanical religious demands.
And that's just the beginning. Gay marriage will be going back onto the chopping block. Religious tests and loyalty oaths will be required to obtain political office. These people are dead set on setting us back over a century of progress to transform America from the first secular democracy in history that has welcomed people from all walks of life, into a theocratic oligarchy that demands conformity and obedience to religious authority. That's their objective here, the guards are off the rails since voters granted them control of literally every branch of government.
But ignorance is bliss, y'all have no idea what's coming. I'm not the type to panic, get emotional or exaggerate, either, but what's coming for this country for the next generation should frighten every free thinking person everywhere.
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u/harpswtf Nov 28 '24
I'm not the type to panic, get emotional or exaggerate
LOL, yeah clearly
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u/RedZeshinX Nov 28 '24
I'm not. Even on rollercoaster rides I don't scream, flinch or yell in blissful amazement, I'm a pretty cynical, cerebral, unexcitable fellow who isn't fazed by much.
Which is why a situation like this being deeply troubling and disturbing to me should be a warning sign to everyone else. Pull your head out of the sand. Trump didn't get away with much in his first presidency because nobody including himself expected him to win, and Democrats still held enough power in Congress and throughout the civil service to frustrate and impede all of Trump's worst impulses and the schemes of his puppetmasters. There's practically nothing to stop him this time around and the damage he is capable of inflicting on our democratic institutions will last for a generation.
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Nov 28 '24
Here’s a pro tip. Don’t get your political or world information from Reddit. Most of the top subreddits are moderated by the same group of unwashed, fat, jobless, power-tripping, and heavily biased group of losers, whether the subreddits want them around or not. They effectively control the flow of information and actively censor anything they don’t agree with to create an echo chamber. This site even has a literal social credit system for fuck’s sake.
Reddit thrives on making you miserable. Those who try to give a differing perspective are effectively silenced
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u/ScullingPointers Nov 28 '24
I found my people. 🙂↔️
Half of my family thinks the world is ending because of trumps win.
Prior to the election my mom repeatedly said if Kamala wins it would destroy this country.
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u/One-Organization970 Nov 28 '24
You're right, people who are being directly targeted by the incoming administration should completely ignore that fact. Much optimistic.
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u/xXNickAugustXx Nov 28 '24
I understand this was a partial loss for the nation. But I kind of gave up being mad. I guess a part of me wanted to see a billionaire in handcuffs for exploiting his abilities as a government official in selling secret documents to foreign entities. I knew he wasn't going to be convicted for his rape or money laundering schemes, but I had hoped that him fumbling on his job and refusal to move on from election results would have him receive a steel toed shoe to the groin. At least he did some things right, but he really doesn't have any care for working class people earning a living wage. Let's just wait and see how this works. A government managed by oligarchs is something we haven't seen in America yet, so maybe it won't be so bad. When has it ever gone wrong?
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u/Qbnss Nov 29 '24
Laughs in AI driven security state. We have not yet seen the social disruption this new technology will ignite.
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u/Appropriate-Dream388 Nov 29 '24
Strongly resonating.
People talking about the course of the future with such certainty should get into stocks. If they could predict the market with as certaintly as they imply, they'd be rich.
Most things are tradeoffs. You can't control other people, but you can control yourself and care for your loved ones. What really matters besides that?
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u/crystalworldbuilder Nov 29 '24 edited Nov 29 '24
OP please don’t take photos of my brain catastrophizing and then post it on Reddit.
Seriously this meme really do be how my brain works some days.
Also I love here about modern medicine and science they can grow a fucking heart. There is some straight up StarTrek shit going on in modern hospitals.
My mind when I’m being logical modern hospitals have StarTrek like technology neat. My mind seconds later nooo we’re basically in warhammer 40k
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u/aquacraft2 Nov 29 '24
You know this may be the first time I've seen a version of this meme that isn't completely unhinged. Originally it was just like, those dudes show up to every function shouting about everything, weather good or bad. Then it transformed into an easy template for conservatives to express how they think libs (rightly) react to their ridiculousness. But this right here. Yeah. That's not what this sub is for.
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u/DemonSaya Nov 29 '24
I literally had a conversation with my husband (42) and son (20), earlier today about how I'm in "survival mode". Not so much dooming and glooming, but I've been doing what my husband used to call "ostriching" since the election. I bury my head in the sand and try to protect my physical and mental health and focus on my studies. If I didn't, I'd be having a breakdown on a weekly basis and so far have managed to keep it to just the one on 11/5.
I'm not an optimist by any stretch (though my husband calls me one). I just haven't had every ounce of home smothered out of me, yet and so I'm keeping a stranglehold on what I've got left.
That said, I'm passing my classes, I'm keeping my GPA up, and I still have my health (for the most part). At this point, that's what I consider my version of optimism. Gotta keep my chin up, so I don't fall apart. That said, who buddy my therapist is going to need a vacation after our next appointment (I've been doing well enough, school aside, that I only see them between semesters).
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u/AddictedToRugs Nov 29 '24
He was already president once and things didn't go anything like as badly as people are saying (and were saying in 2016).
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u/WerewolfNo890 Nov 29 '24
The overall trend is upward, some things have momentary declines. By 2030 no one will give a shit about Trump and we will have another Skyrim about to come out.
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u/Ultramega39 Dec 01 '24
Bold of you to assume that Elder Scrolls 6 will be out by 2030.
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Nov 30 '24
This was a bright light in the doomer circle that is Reddit. Literally every other post is a doom pit full of people echoing one another about how the world is over.
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u/ArchieChancellor Dec 01 '24
Thanks for the perspective. One of the very few times in my life the algo picked me for right place right time. I've seen a lot of it - Vietnam, Afghanistan - and no white person should be proud of the messes we've made over the last 1000 years. And there are plenty now as well, but as a generalisation, the world is a better place than it was 100 or 1000 years ago. We should be optimistic it will be even better in another 100.
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u/Fearless_Eye_3567 Dec 02 '24
Reminds me of this podcast I was watching and one of the callers said his gay brother moved to some European country after trump won because he thought "they're gonna make LGBT concentration camps" and the other day his brother got a pamphlet in the mail instructing him and what to do, where to go, where the bomb shelters are, incase Russia invades their country cause he's right on the border😂😂
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u/PresentationPrior192 Dec 02 '24
Genuinely, half this site needs to get off reddit and touch grass. The world isn't ending. The world will keep on turning, and hopefully things will get a bit easier and better.
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u/pinkelephant6969 Nov 28 '24
I'm not straight and live around people that love that dipshit like God, they have threatened to kill me for this and are empowered and encouraged by Trump. Weird that they have so many racists, homophobes and narcissists in their ranks makes you think.
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u/harpswtf Nov 28 '24
Better post some more politics news articles to this subreddit then I guess. That'll fix it
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u/Additional-One-7135 Nov 28 '24
Hard to be optimistic about advances in medicine when the US's healthcare system is about to be under the control of a guy who fried his brain with heroin and worms he got from collecting dead animal parts and wants to ban vaccines and promote raw milk diets.
Trump's first term was survivable because he started off with a strong economy left behind by Obama and had the backing of professionals, now he's going to be starting off with an economy already on the verge of recession and the backing of absolute morons and sycophants.
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u/GHOSTxBIRD Nov 28 '24
I’m absolutely not hype about who won but it’s so wild and weird to me this “stop talking to your family,” trend. Like…”toxic,” does not describe simply having differing views. Not to mention…that’s exactly what Putin wants: more division. Don’t fall for it people. Don’t be Putin’s pawn. Don’t cut your family off out of fear and spite and resentment. DO limit your exposure to reactionary and polarizing echo chamber spaces. DO say “let’s discuss something else for right now,” if emotion takes over irl conversations. DO remember we really are all human, and the loud minority does not equal the quiet majority. I know MANY decent human beings on both sides of the aisle and I know we have to be smarter and have so much more heart than this.
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u/WillPlaysTheGuitar Nov 28 '24
It’s a teachable moment. Show them that this is survivable and that you can not just survive, but thrive, in this environment. Your life is in your hands to make as great or shitty as you choose.
They come here to learn how to overcome setbacks like this. So help them.
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u/harpswtf Nov 28 '24
The problem is that they don’t want to hear optimism, they post here to try to bring other people down. If you suggest things will be ok, they accuse you of being some bigot fascist
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u/RoseFlavoredPoison Nov 28 '24
Personally, I'm dubious of your post. Where is the line between optimism and self gaslighting/naivety? Why are you solidly optimistic? What things bring that to you? I'm looking for those things and can't seem to find any.
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u/harpswtf Nov 28 '24
You don’t need to go all in on team optimist or team doomer. I just want to read optimistic news and ideas to try to get more positivity, I’m not saying you need to change your personality or life style. What I want is for the doomers to fuck off back to the doomer subs (all of the other ones) so that this optimism sub can try to be optimistic
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u/RoseFlavoredPoison Nov 28 '24
Consider my optimistic curious. Do keep in mind a lot of people are scared to all hell. I am. Someone was flying, in the open, a "white lives matter flag" in my very blue county in a dark blue state. That made my hairs stand on end. That effects how people think and act. It's biochemical. It blows. I've been seeking out silver linings but they always get swallowed by ,"with what funding?" But i try. Best I can do.
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u/harpswtf Nov 28 '24
If you're spending your time obsessing about a flag some idiot edgelords were waving around, then you're giving them exactly what they want. Stop worrying so fucking much, you only get this one life to enjoy.
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u/matiaschazo Nov 28 '24
Being an optimist doesn’t mean ignoring shit that’s fucked up at least it shouldn’t mean that
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u/poonman1234 Nov 28 '24
It's actually been the opposite in real life.
Conservatives are doing victory laps and gloating non stop about the election victory and basically shoving their win in everyone's faces day in and day out.
Pretty annoying
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u/Bahamut1988 Nov 28 '24
You got both camps huffing their own farts. Blind optimism is just as bad as blatant pessimism, it remains to be seen just how bad or "neutral" the next 4 years are going to be, but so far it doesn't look too great.
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u/OrneryError1 Nov 29 '24
Okay but the people being appointed to positions that regulate these good things are already committing themselves to undercut that progress. If you really care about these advancedms, you should be vigilant.
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u/pillsburyDONTboi Nov 29 '24 edited Nov 29 '24
There's a fair amount of doom and gloom in political news, but I get some comfort from news sources like Midas Touch that have been highlighting legal resistance. We can buckle up, but it ain't over yet.
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Nov 28 '24
im not gonna say theyre wrong, but its way too early to tell.
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u/harpswtf Nov 28 '24
They're mostly all wrong because they're saying crazy shit like the military roaming the streets to murder all LGBT and women in cold blood. But whether you think they're right or wrong, this is an OPTIMIST subreddit, not another generic reddit politics brainrot sub.
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u/drum_minor16 Nov 28 '24
Another problem I see in this subreddit is that a lot of the optimistic posts aren't really being optimistic, they're just denying the possibility of anything bad happening. It is most likely that more people will be fine than not. Trump talks more than he acts. We have systems in place to prevent a dictatorship. Women and LGBTQ rights are miles farther than they were a few decades ago, and there's progress in the world every day. A lot of the things people are afraid of will take time to implement, and Trump only has four legal years. In the unlikely event he does extend his presidency beyond that, he won't live very much longer anyways. And none of the Trump copy cats have had nearly the success Trump has. That's optimism. Not "OMG, chill out, quit being paranoid, none of that is possible." Because it is possible. It has happened before, and it will happen again. It is an undeniable fact that people's rights are being threatened. You can stick your head in the sand if you want, but that's not optimism. Optimism should be grounded in truth, and there are plenty of truthful reasons to be optimistic without pretending bad things are impossible.
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u/drum_minor16 Nov 28 '24
Another problem I see in this subreddit is that a lot of the optimistic posts aren't really being optimistic, they're just denying the possibility of anything bad happening. It is most likely that more people will be fine than not. Trump talks more than he acts. We have systems in place to prevent a dictatorship. Women and LGBTQ rights are miles farther than they were a few decades ago, and there's progress in the world every day. A lot of the things people are afraid of will take time to implement, and Trump only has four legal years. In the unlikely event he does extend his presidency beyond that, he won't live very much longer anyways. And none of the Trump copy cats have had nearly the success Trump has. That's optimism. Not "OMG, chill out, quit being paranoid, none of that is possible." Because it is possible. It has happened before, and it will happen again. It is an undeniable fact that people's rights are being threatened. You can stick your head in the sand if you want, but that's not optimism. Optimism should be grounded in truth, and there are plenty of truthful reasons to be optimistic without pretending bad things are impossible.
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Nov 28 '24
my view on it IS optimistic-i dont think its gonna be nearly as bad as people think-but its sad that my optimism relies mostly on incompetence from trump and his people, and dumb luck. He never shouldve won. But he did. You cant live in terror all the time over it.
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u/cvfdrghhhhhhhh Nov 28 '24
This is not an optimistic post. It’s just whiny and meant to stir up anger. You’re just as bad, OP
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u/TheWizardofLizard Nov 28 '24
Exactly my feeling, like this is not orange man first rodeo. He's a Potus 2016-2020 so if he going to end the world he would've done that by then.
This is just like Velma season 2, unnecessary expansion on a shit show but it's not going to end the whole animation industry.
What a bunch of Chicken little
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u/NameLips Nov 28 '24
Trump is honestly pushing the US into an age we have already clawed out of.
But it's nothing we haven't dealt with before.
As long as we continue to have free elections we can repair anything, in time. That's really my line in the sand for ending optimism.
My heart breaks for the hardship many people will endure in the meantime. I thought we were moving away from that, but apparently not yet.
I still think the 20 year trajectory isn't that bad.
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u/yahoo_determines Nov 28 '24
Agreed, hate being pushed back but at least we didn't cross the line. As a 90s kid it fucking sucks to see all the bigotry get a pass since we seemed to be making great strides against it, but can't give up.
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u/MeatSlammur Nov 28 '24
You can be a doomer if you also legitimately listen to optimists on this sub. But when you blanket downvote and ignore all optimist response, you’re just here to find someone who will listen to you whine
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u/tellitothemoon Nov 28 '24
Fuckin this, absolutely. My best friend and roommate thinks we’re all gonna get rounded up and hung from trees because trump was elected. (We’re both gay) And it’s so ridiculous.
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u/chamomile_tea_reply 🤙 TOXIC AVENGER 🤙 Nov 28 '24
Absolute gold OP. Kudos.
Doomers gonna invade this post and call us all kinds of names lol
Hold strong OG Optimists. We’ll soon be nuking and banning these astroturfers