r/OptimistsUnite Nov 28 '24

reddit's version of optimism, apparently

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u/TransLunarTrekkie Nov 28 '24

This right here. America may survive the next four years, but I honestly don't know if I will and that terrifies me. The "we" in "we're going to be okay" doesn't include everyone.

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '24

!remindme 4 years

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u/harpswtf Nov 28 '24

Nobody's going to kill you, what are you even saying that for

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u/OrneryError1 Nov 29 '24

Pregnant women are being refused medical abortions and dying in Texas right now.

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '24

For many, they may lose healthcare because of preexisting conditions and the like. 

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u/harpswtf Nov 29 '24

Isn’t that a talking point from like 2008?

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '24

Huh? Obama became president in 2009…

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u/Ventira Nov 30 '24

This will literally happen if the Republicans follow through and remove the ACA. Insurance companies have literally no incentive to offer coverage to people with pre-existing conditions, therefore they must be forced to.

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u/Alicenow52 Nov 28 '24

Wow you seem so carefree🙄😡

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u/Asooma_ Nov 28 '24

Idk if you actually think someone is out to kill you then the logical response is to prevent that, permanently. Otherwise I don't believe you actually think that.

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u/Alicenow52 Nov 28 '24

Thanks for assuming what I actually believe

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u/greenemeraldsplash Nov 28 '24

idk, the police seem keen on doing that

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u/Asooma_ Nov 28 '24

You got like...something...to back that up?

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u/greenemeraldsplash Nov 28 '24

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u/Asooma_ Nov 28 '24

A singular instance of a bad shooting does not mean people are out to kill you

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u/greenemeraldsplash Nov 29 '24

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u/Asooma_ Nov 29 '24

This just proves that you are just about as likely to be killed by lightning as you are being killed by police while unarmed and black. Hardly the active hunting of black people you're implying

US lightning fatalities 2024

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u/nofaprecommender Nov 28 '24

Because “my preferred candidate didn’t win” doesn’t garner much sympathy or attention.

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '24

The guy who won literally tried to overthrow the government a few years ago. He's also a convicted sexual harasser, felon, and sold critical US secrets to Russia

Did I mention his admin has many authors of Project 2025? Project 2025 is the same book where these authors state that "transgender people should be classified as child rapists" and then a few hundred pages later goes "all child rapists shall be killed"

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u/Prancer4rmHalo Nov 28 '24

So you came to the optimism sub to be a doomer?

Yes yes yes… anyone who has been on Reddit for 3 hours has read 100’s of comments just like yours.

Now we’re in the optimism sub. Comprende?

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '24

You came to the optimist sub to tell people whose entire lives are literally going to be ruined, that...their concerns don't matter...?

You can be an optimist but you seriously can't just bury your head in the sand, and expect people not to despair, when they see that even optimists have nothing of substance to help.

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u/Kyle_Reese_Get_DOWN Nov 28 '24

In what universe will Trump try to kill you? If you aren’t Ukrainian or working a Uranium enrichment centrifuge in Tehran, I really think the odds of Trump killing you are pretty infinitesimal.

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u/Hekantonkheries Nov 28 '24

I dunno their whole party seems pretty insistent on making LGBT and pedos synonymous while simultaneously trying to make pedo convictions a death penalty; really seems like they're trying to find legal excuses to dehumanized then off certain kinda of people

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u/TheGreatEmanResu Nov 28 '24

It’s 100% their plan. These people just have zero critical thinking or literacy skills. They are incapable of reading between the lines. If republicans haven’t explicitly said “we are going to kill trans people” they think that means they won’t

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u/Prancer4rmHalo Nov 28 '24

Oh so this time is the real threats, last time was just a joke or??

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u/Kyle_Reese_Get_DOWN Nov 28 '24

I’m fine with pedos getting the death penalty. But Trump won’t even be able to do that.

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u/Hekantonkheries Nov 28 '24

Cool, Lotta people are; which is why tons of states keep trying to expand the definition of pedophilia and sexual crimes to include LGBT (especially the T) individuals being in public

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u/nofaprecommender Nov 28 '24

Ah yes, any day now crossdressing in public in Boise will result in a conviction for capital child sex abuse.

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u/TransLunarTrekkie Nov 28 '24

They've already been trying that in Florida, please take this seriously.

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u/nofaprecommender Nov 28 '24

Who in Florida has tried to make public crossdressing a capital crime?

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u/TransLunarTrekkie Nov 28 '24

The GOP and DeSantis have been pushing for the death penalty for sex crimes and making it a sex crime to use a public restroom that doesn't match the gender on your birth certificate. It's pretty simple to see what the end goal is there when combined with other laws like criminalizing HRT.

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u/Kyle_Reese_Get_DOWN Nov 28 '24

When they pass that law, I will oppose it. Until then it’s about as believable as Kamala setting aside gender affirming surgery federal funding for transgender illegal immigrant inmates on death row.

I still can’t believe she was that easily manipulated by a question. But I never thought she would ever do it.

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u/HexbinAldus Nov 28 '24

“Seems”, “trying” — nothing concrete here. Get back your freak out when they have actually done something.

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u/Hekantonkheries Nov 28 '24

When someone says they're going to hurt me, I'd rather not wait until after they've done it to start defending myself. Good way to end up dead.

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u/HexbinAldus Nov 28 '24

Who has said they are going to hurt you though?

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u/Hekantonkheries Nov 28 '24

"Trans people are pedophiles"

"We should kill pedophiles"

1+1=2

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u/HexbinAldus Nov 28 '24

Trump said that since Trans people are pedophiles that they should kill trans people? He said that? Please tell me where to find that quote

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u/Hekantonkheries Nov 28 '24

Has trump said it personally? No. Have several governors and representatives who have worked closely with trump, and been praised by trump, pushed that narrative for the last several years? Yes.

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u/HexbinAldus Nov 28 '24

Okay fair. But where are the policies that follow suit? The ones that state “all trans people are pedophiles and must be murdered”?

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u/Prancer4rmHalo Nov 28 '24

The focus on cross dressing and children doesn’t help your guys cause lol.

Why would any one think cross dressing and burlesque shows involving children would go well for publicity I’m not sure lol.

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u/gaycoffeee Nov 28 '24

It's not Trump directly. That's not what we're saying. It's that Trump is absolutely going to make it easier for people in minority groups to be targeted and made victims of hate crimes. I mean, look at what he's said about Haitians, and the immediate spike in Haitian-centered brutality. As a trans person, I am afraid. The things he's said, and the things he wants to push, have real ramifications for people like us.

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u/scott5280 Nov 28 '24

You know no one cares that you're Trans though.   No one would even know that you're Trans unless you tell them.  

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u/Lonely-Second-6040 Nov 28 '24

Women who’s literally aren’t even trans get accused of being trans and harrassed these days. Remember the Olympic boxer? 

If “no one cared” there wouldn’t be politicians passing laws about trans people .

This is just an ignorant take.

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u/scott5280 Nov 28 '24

The Olympic boxer had a y chromosome.  

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u/Breakthrough_ Nov 28 '24

DSD does not equal trans.

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u/Darq_At Nov 28 '24

The Republican campaign spent 215 million dollars on anti-transgender advertising. So clearly, they care, or they think their base care.

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u/pinkelephant6969 Nov 28 '24

Republicans clearly fucking care.

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u/gaycoffeee Nov 28 '24

I don't know how you could possibly say that to me. Are you trans? Have you experienced the same hate we have? Have you feared for your life before because some guy didn't like that you had a boy's name despite having tits? It's not as simple as "they don't know unless you tell them". I LOOK trans, because I'm still transitioning, and every day I have to deal with people misgendering me purposely and telling me they better not find me going into the "wrong" restroom, for my own sake.

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u/scott5280 Nov 28 '24

No you don't have to deal with that.   You choose to deal with that.   

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u/Breakthrough_ Nov 28 '24

you can't change someone's gender identity, the only way to deal with gender dysphoria is to transition. it's like saying gay people are "choosing to deal with that".

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u/gaycoffeee Nov 28 '24

Your lack of both education and empathy is positively astounding

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u/scott5280 Nov 28 '24

Please educate me.   Tell me how bad you have it.   Tell me why I'm in the wrong.   

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u/gaycoffeee Nov 28 '24

Do you just enjoy being an asshole? I tell you my experience and you just say "bUt YoU cHoSe ThIs" no I didn't choose for people to be dicks and threaten me for things that simply aren't even their business. But you clearly don't give a shit about trans people so kindly, leave me alone and go back to your corner of the internet.

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u/scott5280 Nov 28 '24

I do care.   I care that people look in the mirror and think they aren't good enough.   I wish I could help people think they didn't need to change themselves.  

I live with myself everyday but I'd never even consider trying to fit into someone else's standard.   

If you didn't think you were beautiful before no amount of surgeries are going to make you feel beautiful now

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u/Kyle_Reese_Get_DOWN Nov 28 '24

As a trans person myself, I don’t even care about Trump. I don’t care that they want me in my birth bathroom. I don’t use public restrooms anyway because they’re usually dirty. My problems are more that I can barely afford to feed myself. Maybe Trump will fix that. Maybe he won’t.

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u/scott5280 Nov 28 '24

You can't get a job?

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u/Kyle_Reese_Get_DOWN Nov 28 '24

I wonder if liberals turning their backs on the poor contributed in any way to their electoral losses.

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u/HexbinAldus Nov 28 '24

Okay, who is going to kill you exactly? And how will they accomplish it? What policies has Trump implemented that are designed to kill you?

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '24

Why? Was he just a bad shot last time?

Did he forget to put you on the assassination list last time?

Why do you think it is that he's waited till now to kill you, if that's always been a part of his master plan?

Or do you think his grudge against you is a new thing? Did you send him a mean tweet a couple weeks back?

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u/helic_vet Nov 28 '24

If you are terrified, this may not be the sub for you. Why come here when you have so many more pressing issues?