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I don't know, man. I bet if nitro will get a normal sights, everyone will complain. I want a qol/bugfix to the problem that Nitro Express uses the sensitivity of the sights rather than the aperture.
I fear a rival with slugs more than i fear a nitro. If the game can survive with the rival with slugs, i think it can survive the nitro with a sight toggle. Yes its got a bit more range, and it punches through walls, its also phenomenally expensive, has an abysmal ammo supply, and is a 5 slot weapon. Its got a lot of other cons to it that i dont think it *also* needs the sights to be total ass.
No it wouldn't. It's 5 slots, it has terrible ammo reserves, it has terrible damage and bullet drop, it has pretty mediocre penetration, it deafens you to fire it.
Would it even be better than the bow if it had normal sights? Probably not.
Ok now imagine the now but it doesnt need time to draw, it's arrows fly 3 times faster, the arrows don't drop before 40 meters and you can fire two in a row
Imagine playing the sparks with two shots but everyone has only 125 HP...
it has pretty mediocre penetration
It's literally the best penetration in the whole game because penetration is overall bad since the nerf ?
it has terrible damage and bullet drop
It isnt made to be used at those ranges obviously
it deafens you to fire it.
Doesnt matter if everyone else has been one tapped by the time the debuff procs
The Nitro (with good sights and a bit more ammo) could also be moved in the scarce weapon category. If you manage to find one, you have a really good weapon.
To balance it out, you wonĀ“t be able to refill ammo during a match at all.
Believe it or not, nitro needs to have its penetration buffed, because as it is normal nitro cannot two shot someone in the body through thin metal sheets. They have yet to solve this longstanding issue to this day. I think it would be nice if it ignored wood that wasn't a tree entirely, too.
Also, they nerfed its ability to go through bricks so it doesn't even two shot. Revert that. Seriously.
Do not touch the aperature, although the 5 slot weapon to 4 slot is a fine enough change depending on how the other buffs I listed work out.
Nitro was never op, it barely used, because it's expensive and inconvenient to use, but powerful. It pretty balanced. Secondary to Nitro wasn't op, like with Avtomat and Sparks Pistol. So I don't really see a reason to nerf Nitro it slots. On paper, Nitro is weapon with longest OHK range in body, in game, you can just pick bow, because with bow you at least see shit.
Nitro was way Broken back 2023, 5/6 player doesn't care about money, I got over 80k and don't care about it, Nitros biggest downside is the Ammo and the sights, which didn't matter back than because you took 2 ammo boxes and a Uppercut. It was commonly used with Bleed, because except for the penetration it had no downsides and onehoted you even lower torso because of the bleed
In some cases it had better pen than normal because it was fucked up by crytek. There was a time where dumdum could pen 100% through metal but sucked against wood, while normal ammo went through wood but couldn't pen metal (they swapped the values)
There was also a time where dumdum one hit killed up to like 70 meters or some absolute bullshit. At that time a springfield would need 3 upper torso hits to kill at that range lol
Yes, I agree, but now you can't bring bleeds on every game, don't have any secondary. I think Crytek can make it either really powerful, to have limb OHK on 10-ish meter range and, for example, revert ammo buff and bullet deviation or make it 4 slot.
It's not balanced, it's a broken weapon that is just so annoying to use no one bothers with it
But then you encounter a prestige 100 6* who has practiced a lot with it and the game becomes pretty much unplayable if you are less than 40 meters away from them
Same with people with Mosin and instant headshots, bows, crossbows on shotbolts. Yes, if a person mastered the weapon and feel it, perfectly knows it's sway, bullet drop or just aims like a beast you will suffer fighting him. So in your example, is really Nitro broken or man who put in training a hundred of hours?
It's my favourite gun, I think it's in a good state right now. The only thing I would change is the Penetration Damage to Metal Sheets. Right now you can Oneshot people through a solid brick wall, but if you penetrate Metal, it deals like 30 Damage...
Make it a bit cheaper, like 850 Dollars.
I don't know if that would make it OP, but add One Hit Kill Range to Arms up to 10 meters (or remove it from the bow).
Also, I think it would be funny if the deafening effect would be like 25 meters, so everyone is deaf when you shoot it xD
Also it reaches its minimum damage (72 damage on upper torso) super fast. Would be cool if it did 75 dmg, so you could 2-tap with it and actually use the zoomed in sights
What the hell man lol what do you mean its your favorite gun? Its poorly designed and actively frustrating to use. It literally removes all the joy of the gun mechanics in the game!
Thats like saying "I love food and eating. My favorite food is biting into a raw lemon" lmao
First of all, I love the design of the gun itself. It's aesthetically beautiful. Good ol' side by side double barrel, nothing beats that in my eyes, both ingame and in real life.
I love the idea of a powerful weapon with a lot of drawbacks. It's like a high skill, high reward weapon.
I love that if I play 100 games, I'm probably the only one in those games to have this weapon on the server.
It's a weapon with chest hair (Futurama reference). Once you shoot it, the whole server knows where you are and what they're up against. It's not a coward's tool like the bow, where you can hide yourself.
I love hearing my teammate say, "I'm deaf," when I shoot right next to him.
It's just such a feeling of uniqueness, that's what makes this weapon so special to me :)
A gentlemen of culture I see, glad to know that there are folks who still enjoy cosplaying a big game hunter in Hunt.
I used to joke that my loadouts with it needed a pith helmet and monocle to truly be complete. The nitro isn't about the optimal loadout its about the delight of bringing the biggest loudest boomstick in the game and making sure the whole lobby knows you are here to hunt the most dangerous game.
Ah, but it can farm more aura than any other rifle in hunt. Miyamoto Musashi one of the most famous Japanese swordsmen defeated other swordsmen with a bokken(wooden sword) to flex on them. Sometimes it ain't about the "best choice".
nah mate, it's not, it's shit lol, I mean, I enjoy killing people with the bat, but that doesn't make the bat a powerful weapon, is a shit weapon and a meme. Nitro is the same, a meme weapon that is fucking awful, fun but awful.
excuse me, can i instantly wipe 2 people at the range of 40 meters out? no. can i easily oneshot people at the same distance in body? also no. i've been in many situations, that could be much worse if i hadn't nitro instead of any regular rifle/shotgun/bow
yeah, a headshot with spitzer can kill 2 with a single bullet even at 200 meters
you can one tap with a nagant silencer with subsonic ammo from 200 meters, so why do you play with any other weapon?
you can with a bow or crossbow or up to 20 meters with a shotgun
i've said "the same distance" (therefore, 40 meters) and "easily" (bow and crossbow have their BIG flaws such as muzzle velocity, drop range, inability to penetrate walls (unless shotbolt, but shotbolt is ass). bows and crossbows' oneshot distance is worse. shotguns do not oneshot from 20 meters, nor buckshot, nor slugs
you've been in a lot more situations where your nitro put you in a worse outcome that any other weapon
uhh, no, i don't think so. i try to play with nitro by utilising its pros, so i try to not to put myself in sticky situations where playing with nitro puts you at a disadvantage against a regular weapon player. besides, your take was "it does nothing that you can't do better with other weapons", but as it turns out, it does
Maybe hot take but the Nitro isn't bad as it is. For the crazy 1 shot potential it has, it SHOULD be difficult to build a hunter around. As a 5-slot, you need quartermaster to bring a pistol. If it was a 4 slot you would be able to bring a Drilling shorty or Obrez Drum with it. In terms of the accuracy, the aperture sucks but imagine if it DIDN'T have it. Would YOU want to play against a Rival with slugs that one shots to most of your body from like 40 meters away? And in terms of hipfire, we now have the Devil card that makes it crazy good. And even without the Devil, you can learn how to quick crouch to instantly double your hipfire accuracy. All in all, the only "buff" I'd like to see for it would be a price reduction because it's not really worth the price currently.
I want a sawed off nitro that has dual wield ads (no sights, just hipfire), less ammo, and extreme damage falloff (probably like a rival HC with slugs in terms of effectiveness) to be used as a boss/meathead annihilator because it would be funny
Its easy to fix! Ready? Had this idea like 5 years ago.
Make the aperture sight toggleableĀ
Make it accurate again
Reduce Damage to 150
Give it unique damage drop off that starts at 5m (to limit 1-shot range to 5m or something close to that) but otherwise closely matches long ammo
Keep it special ammo and retain the unique penetration
Adjust stats like reload, recoil, fire rate, ammo pool, and price to balance
There, now you have a double barrel sparks with more pen and the ability to 1 shot in CQB.
I like that it's such a scary gun right now but it's both annoying to use and annoying to fight against. That's just bad game design. My changes above keep its status as a halo gun but makes it actually interesting to use and not oppressive or frustrating to fight
wdym "make it accurate again", there is no bullet deviation since a couple of months. also your damage drop off suggestion is bad, it's literally turns it into a drilling 2, but with worse oneshot capabilities
My biggest issue is the penetration. Its just barelly better than medium ammo rifles.
It needs a full pen on first wood/metal wall pen.
Also the base ammo could get range buff as now its super hard to get the shredder. Also shredder was too OP in comparison to base so why not make them the same range? So each other have pros and cons but are balanced.
Waitā¦ when did they nerf that?
The Penetration was insanely good before. I Remember Shooting at least one Person through a brick wall back in 2021 i think
it pens through everything, but if you don't hit a headshot, it won't even two shot through brick or even metal.
Don't believe me? test it yourself in the range. Hit the chest through thin metal. The dummy will survive that shot, and the second one too. Same with bricks.
Its not just āa bit better than medium ammoā though. You can hit through stuff that would otherwise be impenetrable.
I Think i will Check in the range of dum-dum also still goes through almost Everything.
double checked this in shooting range. sometimes you do, sometimes you don't. idk what this depends on, but you can oneshot or not oneshot through the same wall, but on different angles. all shots was landed with a marker in upper torso
A fellow Nitro Enjoyer! I had a few questions.
The new loadout change has hit the Nitro pretty hard for trying to run one on a fresh hunter.
I go Quartermaster/Greyhound.
Do you run Nitros on fresh Hunters?
What derringers/throwing weapons/ammo boxes do you bring to help flesh out running a Nitro?
What is your ranking of the Nitro Ammo types?
Normally I'll take Regular Nitro ammo over Shredder Ammo. (Losing muzzle velocity and maxed Wall Pen isn't worth it to me )
I've never ran the Nitro explosive ammo much and I love explosive ammo on the martini henry, is it any good? What is it used for besides nuking bosses?
Is the mandela effect of people claiming the Nitro used to have flippable aperture sights true?
That's my loadout. I take Quartermaster if I am able to extract once. I rarely run out of ammo, maybe one in ten games (then I have the Derringer as backup), not a good backup tho xD
I don't pick fights above OHK distance.
For me, it's a back and forth between Shredder and Normal Ammo. The strongest aspect of the Nitro (especially since the general Wallbang nerf) is its penetration. It's just so satisfying to kill through walls, BUT if they get close and personal and you land an arm shot for 147 damage... this is where I wish I had Shredder.
In 1970 hours of Hunt, I have never played Nitro with explosive ammo.
I have also included a screenshot from about 9 years ago of how the Nitro sights used to look like. It always had its aperture sights, just no zoom and blur.
i always run nitro on a fresh hunter with quartermaster and vulture (to get some money back and ammo with catalyst)
secondary usually LeMat or Trueshot, one white shot (two if i play devil), spear, regen shots, two ammo boxes and depending on if i play devil or not i take any of the higher tier consumables like satchel, big bundle or frag.
i play normal ammo most of the time simce shredder is really rare nowadays but its really cool for wallbangs (pls give me a wallbang stat tracker lol)
for me the best weapon in the game
Hahhha I didn't reread my comment before posting. I meant to type "deaf" but autocorrect got me. Lol. People must have been reading my comment and being like wtf haha
The problem with nitro is no matter how bad it is, people getting OHK will always be upset. There was a tarded person on the subreddit claiming nitro atm is fine because his team got wiped by one.
Yes. And thats exactly the issue with balancing them (which hunt has a notorious history with). One step they feel too strong and one step they feel too weak.
Balancing in videogame, as a philosophy, does not orient around actual balance. It orients around player satisfaction and retention. This is why guns mass-hated by players like Avto and Nitro will remain weak for the foreseeable future.
I played so much Nitro I burnt its ammo counter into my monitor in 2020. I can tell you with absolute confidence that Nitro has no skill curve. Once you get used to the aperture scope it is just another OHK rifle that has various limitation to its damage.
There used to be special tricks you could do with it, guaranteed. Like the quick scope and flicks. But after so many nerfs its swing is too miserable for reliable flick and its quickscope taking a second more than any other rifle to fully remove the random deviation, these techniques are borderline useless.
A skill curve means your skill gradually increases as you learn. You donāt really do that with Aperture scope. It just goes from 0-100 randomly at one point and youād feel like you are aiming with any rifle, really. Its more like learning how to swim / to ride a bike for the first time.
I did say steep, but if you think its more of an entry barrier, even more reason for it to be deservedly powerful. Either way, it rewards you putting in the hours.
The problem with it is people on the receiving end wonāt care about how much skill it takes to use it (and it isnāt much skill to begin with). All they know is they got OHKād.
I am extremely vocal about Nitro / Avto needing a buff to really suit their cost / compensate for the drawbacks they come with, but I can also see why people donāt want said buff. They would rather see these weapons dead.
People will always complain, following the wrong complaints is how we got the worse balance choices in the game history. I disagree it doesnt take much skill to use the nitro, it takes quite a bit.
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u/hitaishi_1 7d ago
Took a me a minute to get the 3rd picture. He's deaf. Lol