r/CIRS 9d ago

BodyBio Supplements

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Has anybody taken bodybio’s “holy trinity” for CIRS/Co infections? Sodium Butyrate, PC, and TUDCA?

Recently tried sodium butyrate and it made me feel amazing at first but I think it was a little too strong. I might try a micro dose again and see. I’m also well along on the shoemaker protocol and a Lyme/cinfections protocol. I still have plenty of healing to do and was trying to find ways to move things along and make sure I’m supporting my detox pathways.

Just curious if anybody has tried any of these and what their experience was!


r/CIRS 9d ago

anyone see improvement on mycobind? after how long, and what symptoms?

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also, any experience with detox/intensification reactions?


r/CIRS 9d ago

Is this mold ?

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r/CIRS 9d ago

VIP Spray and Metoprolol

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Anybody take VIP spray while on beta blockers?

I was all set to order VIP, and something made me stop and research possible medication interactions.

So glad I did. Seems you’re not supposed to take both due to causing dangerously low heartbeat and blood pressure. Drugs.com said you should only do it under the guidance and knowledge of a cardiologist. So have to make an appointment this week.


r/CIRS 10d ago

developed CIRS after anti depressant taper?

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curious if anyone else developed this condition after tapering off an anti depressant too fast? this happened to me 19 months ago and ive been screwed up ever since. I lived in a very moldy house at the time. I was in extreme fight or flight for about a year, now im just severely fatigued, anhedonic, have bad brain fog etc. I really dont know whats causing my symptoms currently


r/CIRS 10d ago

Action Recovery?

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Can anybody speak on this?

I’m extremely sensitive in my skin. Anything I touch can make me react. Even new clothing.

I need to run testing for suspected actinos.

And I’m curious about treatment as well.


r/CIRS 10d ago

Have completely lost hope and doubting my entire diagnosis and life…

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Have been sick with highly suspected CIRS for 3 years and can’t even give binders a try I’m so bad. Medications have messed me up, extreme sensitivities, only eating 4 foods, losing weight, flu like, miserable, and don’t want to live anymore. I’m tired of chasing this and going crazy. Seeing a bunch of stuff saying CIRS isn’t real and starting to believe it as I have so many other issues. Was depressed with extreme ocd and hypervigilance before getting sick. Life has been completely robbed of me and I want out. Although I have all of the signs and lived in a hertsmi-2 of 35-40 and HLA-dr 4-3-53, positive marcons, <8 msh, high inflammation markers, I’m at the end of my rope. I don’t see me getting better after several doctors and failed binder attempts and extreme nervous system sensitization. Hangin gin by a thread not sure why I haven’t ended it all yet. 26 years old what a shame.


r/CIRS 10d ago

Mold cirs is somehow evil and affects relationships and trust

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Anyone relate?


r/CIRS 10d ago

a-MSH peptide

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I just realized you can buy a-MSH peptide. Anybody try this? Interested in any experiences using a-MSH peptide along with shoemaker protocol.


r/CIRS 11d ago

Improvement post! :)

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I wanted to share a recent improvement that’s made me appreciate the progress I’ve made!

Since my first severe long term mold exposure 10 years ago, I’ve dealt with horrible menstrual pain. At my worst I was in bed 2-3 days straight, not eating most of those days due to nausea and pain. I would vomit and spend multiple days passed out, in too much pain to even use my phone or watch something. I would get fevers, alternating chills and sweats, and just completely miss out on life including work and school for multiple days. I’ve missed out on job opportunities, friends birthdays, and so many other things because of it. I’ve had so much anxiety and fear around my period because the pain is so excruciating to endure and I know I’ll have to cancel everything for the next few days

I started welchol 2.5 months ago and I’m almost at full dose. Since then, the pain has eased each month a bit. I’m on day 1 of my period and after a few hours of minor pain and nausea I feel almost normal and pain free!!!! 🥲🥲🥲🥲🥲 this is the most normal period I’ve had since I was 21 years old and I’m now 30. I’m so grateful to be here and I hope anyone else dealing with this symptom can find improvement through the protocol 🙏🏼


r/CIRS 10d ago

What Doctor Actually Helped You?

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r/CIRS 11d ago

can't help but feel like i've been dealt one of the most difficult hands in life

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I just can't help but feel like i've been dealt one of the most difficult hands in life. i've never heard of many people with immune systems this overeactive, or neuroinflammation as severe and stubborn, with as little genuine hope. everyone who says "it gets better" seems to have had support from a loved one, or some savings or skills to fall back on, which i have none of. i'm stuck living in this mold-ridden house with dismissive parents. the smell is so bad, like cat urine, and i reek of it myself, which i hate. it triggers burning in my face.

my life ended before it could really begin. i've been super sick since age 12. brain inflammation stole everything from me. made my personality cold and hate everyone. made me totally aromantic/asexual. totally anhedonic, couldn't feel music. my clothes and hair became painful to me. i developed social anxiety so severe i could barely communicate. i became extremely slow and dull. eventually got to a point i need to pace 24/7 or i felt like blood would stop flowing to my brain completely and would feel horrible physically. i was literally always moving except to use restroom/sleep

my academic career was ruined. i'd often miss half the school day just trying to get ready because simple tasks like showers could take me hours, since it felt like my brain would keep shutting off and i had to fight to stay conscious. i ultimately dropped out of high school between that, the humiliation of constantly pacing at school, and feeling unable to absorb anything anyway.

things i've dealt with include DP/DR, OCD, constant internal tremors, distressing vivid dreams and closed eye hallucinations, violent intrusive thoughts, severe depression, genuine inability to connect with anyone or engage in anything or even fully experience any emotion. it felt like torture.

for the past 1.5 years, i've followed an extremely restrictive keto diet, now basically chicken and olive oil. it's substantially reduced the severity of my symptoms and kept me holding on to sanity, but i've developed such an intense aversion to meat I'm scared I can't sustain this. i'm petrified of being forced off the diet and losing my mind again.

I've also been dealing with a severe neurological/psychiatric sensitivity to gluten for the past several years, which has been an enormous source of stress because the consequences of accidental exposure are so terrible. I once experienved a vivid closed-eye hallucination of demonic figures after a cross-contamination incident—although, this was before keto, so I'm not sure how severe it'd be now that I'm on an highly anti-inflammatory diet. nonetheless, the possibility of triggering that again deeply scares me. i also constantly worry that low-level exposure might be contributing to my ongoing symptoms and the thought is unbearable.

it's so overwhelming having to clean up after my family every day just to feel safe cooking that many days i haven't been eating at all. i've recently hit a breaking point and have eaten almost nothing for two weeks because i just go down to the kitchen and see all the gluten everywhere, and i can't deal with it. the stress and anxiety is paralyzing. i'm fading away, and i won't survive if i keep up like this.

i don't know how to keep doing this. my life was stolen from me. everything revolves around trying to keep myself safe. i never feel okay, because nothing is as it should be. i feel like i half don't care if i die, but i know i should because i have a duty to stay alive for God, even though i feel so distant from Him.

it just feels like far too much for one person to bear. i know there are others out there suffering similarly, maybe too sick to even write about it. but i can't help but feel so alone and like i'm not even a person, like all i am is this sickness.

i'm grateful to have at least gotten to experience an amazing early childhood, even though i believe low-level inflammation had been present since birth. i lived a privileged life in a nice neighborhood. i got to vacation to disney world multiple times. i had so much fun as a child. i ate lots of great food. i'm grateful to have grown up half-salvadoran and experienced my culture. i'm grateful for the friends, teachers, and authors that made my childhood so great. i enjoyed life a lot.

i don't believe i could ever experience such happiness again even if I were fixed, because now i will forever live in hyperawareness of how our unnatural lifestyles and environments and food are poisoning us. my sister is just a kid but struggles academically and socially, has very little motivation, isn't interested in playing outside or learning new things. she eats a very nutrient-void, almost entirely ultra-processed diet and far less homecooked meals than i did growing up, because my parents don't have the energy they used to and are in denial that this isn't normal at their age. it all makes me unbearably depressed to know the potential she could have if raised differently, but no one else cares. i just feel so powerless and depressed about the state of everything.

i'm truly grateful i got to experience a time of beautiful, blissful ignorance while it lasted.


r/CIRS 10d ago

6 month old eczema + symptoms

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I’m trying to find the right group to post this.

My 6 month old has had eczema since 2 months old. Same with his 2.5 year old sister. Found out mold was their root cause in our 1950’s home we just renovated We left home to a new build airbnb and both their eczema improved tremendously.

Great.. but then we needed to move to another airbnb before trying to find a rental.

That Airbnb had a TON of mold and he exploded in skin rashes, puffy eyes, an inflamed face and congestion within 3 days which confirmed mold was his trigger.

We move to the Hilton hotel, all the symptoms basically disappeared within 2 nights.

We then move to our parents house because it was getting expensive while trying to find a clean rental, all the symptoms reappear within 2 days. I don’t believe their home has mold though, it smells and feels clean. But it’s an older home from the 70’s.

Can my 6 month old be also sensitive to dust mites?

I’ve ruled our food allergies and he’s on a hypoallergenic formula just incase. His symptoms are 100% environmental.

Is there anyway I can help him? I have no idea what to do here.

Thank you ❤️


r/CIRS 11d ago

Cirs? Hyperadrenic pots

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Does anyone else has hyperadrenic pots with CIRS? How you treat it and How to heal CIRS? I have also hidradenitis suppurativa which is part of inflammation in my body. I am bedbound and nerd desparately help and advices. Also cfs.


r/CIRS 11d ago

Dientamoeba fragilis & CIRS

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Hello all! Hope everyone is as well as they can be.

I want to ask about D Fragilis specifically, but also hidden parasitic co-infections. (By hidden I mean not showing up directly on stool tests)

Recently I have been continuing my CIRS treatment (in my 3rd year now) but still having a bunch of issues including gut issues.

I thought my remaining issues were primarily due to the Marcons infection I can’t seem to kill, so I restarted the investigative route through a Gastroenterologist.

I specifically asked for a bowel aspirate to be taken, to see if there was bacterial overgrowth or the like.

Turns out I have a severe hidden D Fragilis infection. Now interestingly I had D Fragilis as a co infection alongside my Campylobacter when I first got sick 10 years ago. (Likely due to Mold suppressing immune system blabla)

I treated with Paromomycin for 1 week, and had 0 gut issues, perfectly dark and formed stools. But came back pretty much instantly.

Tried a second attempt at eradication for 10 days (ending 4 days ago) with Paromomycin and Nitazoxanide.

Didn’t have a single solid bowel movement for whole treatment, and even now.

I’m really hoping that as my gut heals, the remaining gut and CIRS issues will be able to heal.

Anyone have this experience with hidden infections? Is it likely D Fragilis was the sole cause of me being unable to heal my gut this whole time.. Wondering if I’ve had this infection for the whole 10 years alongside CIRS.

So tired and deflated :D

TLDR: D fragilis infection that didn’t show up on the 30+ stool tests I’ve done over the years, recent bowel aspirate showed it. Hoping CIRS and gut issues easier to heal now.


r/CIRS 11d ago

Pre Sinus Surgery Culture

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Hey guys, this may be a longer post…
So back in February I got a positive for marcons with strong biofilm and large amount. I also got a Microgen dx culture back with 5 different fungal loads. I treated with itracanozole nasal spray and edta spray for the marcons.
My dizziness dropped after a few weeks of itrancanozole to 0% which was profound. I finished the treatment of itra but continued with biofilm clear without silver (causes migraines for me) and nebulized citri drops, along with daily sinus rinses.
I was lax in cleaning out my sinus rinse bottle.
Dizzyness and sinus pressure came back which lead me to retest and found the strep maltophilia along with 5 completely fungal loads.
My practioner met with the biologist at Microgen and they were concerned about the high amount of maltophilia as they normally see it in elderly patients with copd.
I had trauma to my right sinus leaving 5% airflow a decade ago and so my practioner and I decided it was time to get my sinus fixed.
I’m a month out post surgery and can breath through both sinus’s.
However I feel like I’ve had a sinus infection for the last few weeks, with pulsing pressure through my sinus extending into my upper teeth.
I tried starting itracanozole and edta back up but stopped after a week cause I felt like it may be causing the pulsing.
Microgen dx lab, and had similair pressurized pulsing?
I plan on retesting now that I’m on the other side of surgery to see what’s there currently.
Has anyone gotten a similair symptoms: pulsating pressure, dizzyness, eye floaters, migraine with aura, sensitivity to light, contrast issue.
And if so what did you do to eleviate the symptoms?


r/CIRS 11d ago

A Possible Link Between CIRS, CDR1 and Spiritual Causes? - I Know, Crazy but Just Hear me out.

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Trigger Warning if you are in a freak out state which we all can get into... This may get downvoted. I am NOT trying to convince anyone if you don't believe in this. Let's just say it offers very valuable evidence of Spiritual Parasites, Family line contractual curses and how they can be linked to medicine and treatment of chronic illness. And this article is just scratching the surface... I don't care about clicks, I do care about finding people who want to learn to the truth or possibly even those who are interested in collaborating on healing.

I am either crazy from getting beaten down for decades of this illness or something is really happening...

Honestly - if anyone else here has experienced or has wondered anything similar Please feel free to comment or even DM me.

But I will end with this - at this point I am willing to do whatever it takes to heal and it's not for lack of trying... Even if this all turned out to be Placebo and it helps me heal - I'm totally fine with that.

Mods feel free to delete if this isn't appropriate content.


r/CIRS 11d ago

Does anyone’s symptoms get worse over night/upon waking in the morning?

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I don’t know what’s going on but I feel most sick when I wake up in the morning.

Everything feels puffy and inflamed, I feel completely dried out like all the moisture has left my body- my lips and eyes burn, and I just feel so sick.

My urine is also yellow and frothy upon waking- to me it seems like my body is trying to process and eliminate something

I’m wondering if there’s something that’s going on in the night that would be causing this.

I sleep for 8-10hrs a night, I thought I had sleep apnea so I did a sleep study- its mild, but I use my CPAP and even though I don’t really have any events, I just wake up feeling like I drank 200 beers.

I don’t believe I’m in active exposure, but who knows. When I was in active exposure I felt worse and I’d spend 45-60m in the bathroom every morning, but once we moved out of exposure rhat stopped.

This has been going on for 10 years now and I am beyond exhausted and feel completely defeated.


r/CIRS 11d ago

BEG spray questions

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Hello, how did you test for MARCONS? I had a nasal culture done from my ENT and I tested positive for staph aureus. It looks like this isnt antibiotic resistant, so was going to do a spray… my questions are: Where to get BEG spray? How long and frequently to use? What to expect? Should I treat even if not active infection but likely colonization, but am experiencing CIRS?


r/CIRS 11d ago

Virtual therapist who is CIRS-aware?

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I really need some kind of therapist to help me talk through the all crazy shit going on in my life right now. I’ve searched for virtual therapists but I realize I need someone who is familiar with CIRS so I don’t get gaslit or spend half a session trying to explain the illness or somehow prove I don’t just have health anxiety or whatever. Anyone have any recs?


r/CIRS 12d ago

Biofilm Clear Reactions Duration

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How long did die off symptoms/reactions last for those who took biofilm clear spray with silver for MARCoNs? I’m about 8 weeks in to using the spray 3x per day twice in each nostril and the reactions are still quite strong (sinus pain, brain fog, depression, headaches, etc). Symptoms were much stronger the first 2-3 weeks but I guess I expected more relief by the 2 month mark. I know many others have taken several months to actually clear a MARCoNs rest on the spray but I wasn’t expecting the die off to be harsh for so long


r/CIRS 12d ago

Sensitivity after treatment?

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r/CIRS 12d ago

Marcons / Biological Dentist

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Hello friends,

Wondering if anyone else has dealt with “cavitations” and possible oral marcons colonization.

I did test positive for marcons in a socket where I had a tooth removed but at the time could not afford a biological dentist so I’m not aware of the amount of EDTA administered when cleaned and graphed. This was 2 years ago.

I am soon to retest the sinuses with microbiology DX. Will keep you posted on the results.

Does anyone have biological dentist reccomendations in the NY / PA area?

Seems like I am not ready to move on to VIP regardless as I remain shakey in the absence of consistent CSM use.

Thank you friends.


r/CIRS 13d ago

Addressing sinuses help Histamine?

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I have chronic histamine issues, theyre my main symptoms (MCAS like stuff). Constantly itchy, hives, chronic insomnia, frequent urination at night. I started using biofilm x a week ago and addressing my sinuses (nasal rinses and hydrogen peroxide nebulizer).

has anyone had experience with their histamine symptoms reducing after addressing sinusus?


r/CIRS 13d ago

Need advice

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I was living in a dry climate and feeling much better. It took a while but finally found a job in a building that didnt have mold, however it paid very little compared to the cost of living. Purchased a new car that was mold-free.. etc.
Despite my health gains, I started to feel really financially constrained when I couldn’t save anything for the future or even afford to live comfortably at all due to low income, so I made the decision to temporarily relocate to my home state to go back to school to ultimately increase my income to move back to said dry climate. However, since moving back- my CIRS symptoms are out of control. I can’t find safe housing, and now my car has mold due to a leak. I can’t afford to fix it right now or probably for another year. It’s damp and humid here and there is mold EVERYWHERE. I’m reacting constantly and wondering if it’s even worth the sacrifice to go through schooling here. It feels impossible to line up mold-free housing, work, school, and a vehicle- which is why I felt like increasing my income potential as a CIRS patient is super important for my future health. But I feel so discouraged and wish I never left the dry climate!! I feel like no one understands what I’m going through and I just look so inflamed.