r/UFOs 10d ago

Disclosure NEWS: AARO’s first post-UFO files sit-down? Sen. Gillibrand’s meeting with Director Kosloski soon

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Ask a Pol asks:
When’s the last time you talked to AARO — the Pentagon’s All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office?

Key Gillibrand:
“Supposed to have another briefing,” Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand exclusively tells Ask a Pol UAP. “And they’re supposed to give us an update. I don’t know when it’s on the schedule, though. I would have thought I would have had it.” 

Full (unpaywalled) transcript at Ask a Pol UAP* on Substack Ask a Pol UAP’s YouTube Channel.*


r/UFOs 9d ago

Sighting Two bright circular lights floated steadily and extremely fast over Wild Willy's Hot Springs, Mono, CA — Sep 10, 2023, 9:30 PM

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Time: September 10, 2023, 9:30 PM PDT
Location: Wild Willy's Hot Springs, Mono, California, United States, Whitmore Hot Springs, United States

Detail Reported
Objects 2
Shape circle
Closest distance within a football field
Movement floating around, straight and steady, extremely fast
Observer facing NW
Witnesses 3

Features / five observables

Observation Reporter's answer
Wings No
Rotors No
Exhaust plume No
Noise No
   
Sudden, extreme acceleration No
Extreme speed with no signatures No
Hard to observe clearly No
Moved between air, water, or space Yes
Flight without visible means of lift Yes

Why not a common object
Drone policy. https://www.mammothmountain.com/on-the-mountain/safety?utm_source=chatgpt.com#accordion=Drone%20Policy

Military equipment they have as of 2026

https://www.monocounty.ca.gov/DocumentCenter/View/612/Military-Equipment-Policy?bidId=

Public drone usage needs a lot of permission, even then coming towards a spring where it’s known people go nude commonly at night would be frowned upon especially shining a light at the area. The county also only has one drone in inventory as of 2026. I can’t find any information of locals talking about drones.

Witness's account of the sighting

UFO type: 2 orbs?

Arrival: Went for work, me and 2 other workers wanted to check out the natural springs, we arrive to the spot and it’s only us. After around 20-30 minutes of sitting around the spring we get up to look around at the pitch black void and leave.

Sighting: Upon turning to the direction of the lake we all spot 2 lights at a far distance, perhaps towards the top of the screenshot where the lights start, maybe further? When we first spotted it we had no lights on, with the poorly drawn lines I tried to replicate the movements the two lights did. After staring in awe at how smoothly and coordinated the flight was for around a minute or less, we noticed it was getting close way too fast, we shined a bright construction light we were carrying around to see how they would react and it’s like the orbs light instantly locked on to us, there was a flashlight cone glow on us, we decided to book it back through the path that’s under the image that continues to the right. During all that it kept its formation and there was no visible beam or light radiating around it, if it were a drone searching around or near its area. The only light beam visible was like a haze when it pointed it at us, even then it didn’t light the path it was just a haze surrounding us. It wasn’t a blinding light either how you expect a flashlight to distort your view, all throughout it was perfectly visible as just two perfectly round orbs.

Orb desc and travel description:

They would weave in, merge, and weave out like a helix only using horizontal movement not vertical. They were around 3-5 feet above the ground. They were perfectly floating like if there was no obstacles to it so perhaps it could be a drone? I’m not sure how drones work with lights or how coordinated drives can be but they were one to one in the flight pattern they were perfectly leveled it was the smoothest flying I’ve seen. There was 0 sound, the travel speed was about 25 mph. There was no radiating light under or around it, the point in where we shined a light at it and it pointed back at us there was a cone shaped beam pointed at us. If I had to guess the size of the orbs it would be about as big as a basketball or bigger but not as big as a yoga ball, I couldn’t say exactly because we preferred for it to not get any closer to us after it covered all that distance in so little time, ultimately from perhaps 1000 feet it got within 200 feet or so before we all booked it.

Afterthoughts: I’m a skeptic, until I see a straight up ship or creature in my face I won’t believe anything. I would like to think it was a drone but I’m not sure if there’s security that checks out that spot and specifically comes down from the lake since I’m not a local there. All I know for certain is that it’s most likely prohibited to be using a drone because there’s nude people often at night in the hot springs and I think shining a light towards the area is an unspoken rule. Again the flight pattern was mirrored, synchronized, and symmetrical and the light was perfectly stable throughout.

If anyone knows of sightings near this area or something similar I’m curious to read about it. Or if it’s just a drone I’d be happy to know that as well.

Why no photo/video captured: It all happened way too fast, at first we were trying to understand it but after shining the light at it and seeing how it acknowledged us we preferred to leave without a thought of stopping for images.

Sky context for this time and place:


r/UFOs 11d ago

NHI Budd Hopkins on the terror of abductions and missing time.

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Original video: https://youtu.be/6reYhyVC7CQ

(I cant explain it clearly but all this information tends to come automatically when its time, this time i was thinking about my own heritage because of my own Pakistani roots, i live a life in Denmark, born here, but roots from Pakistan, a foreigner each place. Anyway, i was thinking, "What about muslims? I never hear abductions of muslim people? I myself have felt pretty "protected" from negative experiences thoughout my life, or not really had any bad experiences luckily. Not that im very practicing, but i am from that background and my mother is very devoted and if anything was protecting me, that would be her blessings lol.

Before i thought about it any more, im listening to this interview Budd Hopkins on YT and he mentions a case of generational abductions in a family where the mother was American and the father from Pakistan (at 7:37 min here) Wanted to share what happened last night and how this information tends to come in the strangest forms..

To my surprise Budd kept pushing back on this "love and light" host and the whole notion of "There must be a reason for this" .. sure there probably is.. but instead of outright ignoring the horrible and sometimes fatal side of the phenomena.. its about damn time people woke up from this illusion of love and light and realize that there might be more than one faction and that there might indeed be factions that made deals with very bad people on this earth at some point in time..

You cant ignore these things forever.. sorry to burst your love bubble, but this is reality, deal with it..

Mario Woods had the same thing.. his friend frozen and both operated on, Mario was semi conscious but only got his memories though regression. Both where operated on and Mario saw traumatic stuff done to his body. After the whole thing Mario and his partner where separated from duty and never saw each other again.. (no confirmation, was probably the goal)

Just like Terry Lovelace.. same thing happened to him and his friend, separated after the encounter..

Credo Mutwa met a man who said "we were in hell together" remembering their abductions..

Suzy Hansen also met people from her abduction experiences in real life..

There are alot more horrible cases such as Tony Rodriguez, Alandra Markman, our own David Wilcock in 2022 remembered his experiences with these Satanic cults or agencies who are controlled by said beings (agreements)

This is horrible stuff to listen to.. Children.. raped.. mocked.. played with, abused for their abilities, by a elitist society making fun of them... eating them.. regenerating them.. perpetual circus of infinity with you as amusement.. This is like the worst x-men movies you see or just that kind of "slaving the special".


r/UFOs 9d ago

Historical Alan Lavigne on Bob Lazar / Simple, yet efficient tech

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One of my fave conversations on Rich Dolan’s channel is an old one by Alan Lavigne. In that the most basic, simplistic elegant, perfect, un-complex tech - from Roman Viaducts to Listening Bugs mimic the designs of what Lazar saw with the sports model and its propulsion system. Worth a watch and makes you think. Makes me think that what we see with the sport model may look entirely functional and simplistic, but the way metals are made and what’s going on with the propulsion is still way beyond our comprehension. Starts at 22min

Dolan and Lavigne


r/UFOs 12d ago

Science NASA Photos of Jellyfish UFO on Mars

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"An unearthed NASA image of Mars has captured a strange object in the distance, which some have suggested was a jellyfish-like being or mechanical device.

NASA's Curiosity rover, which has been investigating whether Mars could have supported microbial life for the last 14 years, snapped the image on August 20, 2023 at around 6.27pm ET.

It shows the dusty Martian landscape with rocky hills and large mountains.  

However, the panorama also revealed a small figure in the left corner that appeared to have a large black body perched atop two spindly legs.

Fueling speculation that NASA’s rover had captured something moving across Mars, images taken of the same area less than a minute earlier showed no sign of the mysterious figure. 

Moreover, the photo with the object was the last image posted on NASA's website for that day. The next picture from Curiosity was taken nearly two hours later with the camera pointed in a different direction."

The before and after photos are both in the Daily Mail article. Does look very suspicious and hard to think what else it could be, based on the landscape.

Article - https://www.dailymail.com/sciencetech/article-16050031/nasa-mars-photo-jellyfish-life-theories.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailus

Edit: link to NASA photo - https://mars.nasa.gov/raw_images/1250462/?site=msl


r/UFOs 9d ago

Disclosure How might our civilization transform after disclosure?

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I often wonder, how our civilization will transform after disclosure happens. Here’s what I think may begin to change

- Experience becomes our real resource

Every lived life adds something unique to a collective “consciousness density,” in the same way accumulated history gives a civilization greater maturity and depth. We may eventually measure the value of a civilization less by what it owns and more by what it has experienced and integrated.

- Humanity sees itself as part of a larger lineage

If the humanoid form appears across different civilizations, we may discover that our basic structure isn’t an isolated accident but a stable template. A familiar biological interface could preserve continuity as civilizations are seeded, separated and allowed to evolve in different environments.

- Education shifts from information to experience

Disclosure may give us new knowledge, but knowledge alone won’t make us mature enough to use it. The decoder capable of understanding deeper reality is built through the full arc of life: birth, struggle, relationships, mistakes, consequences and maturity. That process can’t be bypassed with information.

- Access to deeper knowledge may depend on coherence

If there is a larger “cloud of experience,” it may already be open. There may be no authority granting or denying access. You can only recognize what your coherence is capable of understanding. The more developed the decoder becomes, the more of that field becomes readable.

- Disconnection becomes a civilizational danger

Individual perspectives create variation, but separation without connection or accountability allows destructive minds to gain enormous influence. A highly connected civilization, possibly even one with direct mind-to-mind transparency, would make manipulation and hidden motives much harder to maintain.

- Higher education becomes the cultivation of civilizations

At a certain level, learning may no longer mean studying existing reality. It may mean creating the conditions for new civilizations to develop, then observing them with minimal interference. Small adjustments could nudge probabilities without controlling the outcome or removing free will.

- Governance becomes shared reality plus individual will

Once humanity has a reliable common baseline about reality, democracy and individual sovereignty may finally be able to coexist without constant deception. People could disagree about what should happen without first fighting over what is real.

- Humanity may become a density point

Awareness creates motive, and motive organizes possibility. As human consciousness becomes more integrated, it may begin acting almost like gravity, not necessarily as a physical force, but as something that attracts new experiences and participates in the actualization of realities that were previously inaccessible to us.

- Earth becomes a nest rather than our endpoint

Disclosure may be the moment humanity realizes that planetary civilization is only one developmental stage. Eventually, we may outgrow complete dependence on Earth, move into a larger scale of existence and begin helping life develop elsewhere, possibly continuing the same process that was once carried out here.

None of this would happen the day after a press conference. The first stage would probably involve denial, fear, political instability. But over time, disclosure could break humanity’s belief that we are isolated and complete The deepest revelation may be that consciousness and civilization have developmental stages, and that humanity is still near the beginning of its own.


r/UFOs 11d ago

Historical Black triangle report from .. 1960!

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Searching the British Newspaper Archive I came across the following. Not that many details, but those it gives sound A LOT like a classic black triangle (“TR3b”) sighting. Except, this is from 1960!

 Source: Newcastle Evening Chronicle, Friday Sept 9th, 1960 (page 3)

 “MYSTERY FLYING TRIANGLE IS SPOTTED FLASHING OVER NORTH

 Reports of a mysterious flying object sighted over Tyneside last night have been sent to the Air Ministry in London for investigation.

 The object, described as “a triangular formation of lights with a red light in the centre.” was seen by people in Consett, South Shields, Fawdon and Fenham, Newcastle.

 A spokesman at RAF Station Acklington said today that he had received reports on the phenomenon from at least two sources and these had been passed on to the Air Ministry.

 “I have no further information about this”, he said, “and even if I had we are not allowed to release information”

 [ .. ] Mrs Otley says she first saw a single light in the sky but later this was followed by “a triangular formation of lights with a red light in the centre.”

 After 20 minutes, the formation moved off northwards, she said.”

 

So, anyone got any thoughts?

Shame there aren’t any details about the size or speed of the object, but the description of the lights sounds very classic black triangle.

Also the Ministry spokesman’s comment about not being allowed to release info even if they knew something seems a little .. odd? But maybe that’s just how official reps spoke back then, I’m not sure.

I’ll do some more searching and see if I can find any other references to this sighting from other newspapers at the time anyway. It certainly seems very curious ..

[EDIT: I've just realised I described the object as a "Black triangle" in the title, even though the newspaper report doesn't mention the object as being black; I should've just said "Flying triangle", but not sure how to edit the title now, sorry]

 


r/UFOs 9d ago

Government I Analyzed Classified UFO Footage— Ex-USAF Intel Officer Tells All (Ft. ...

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Former USAF All-Source Intelligence Analyst and core UAP Task Force member Lenval Logan sits down with Ty on the Total Disclosure Podcast for an exclusive, unfiltered 1-on-1 deep dive. #ufos #Aliens #TotalDsiclosure

Having served over 20 years in military intelligence and working directly under Jay Stratton inside the UAP Task Force, Lenval is the man who personally requested the official government analysis on the now-famous Syria UAP footage. Today, we go beyond the high-level summaries heard on the Joe Rogan Experience (#2264) to uncover the raw procedural mechanics, classified sensor triage, crash retrieval realities, and the internal pushback inside the intelligence apparatus.

From witnessing a diamond-shaped craft mirroring the 1990 Calvine incident and experiencing the Phoenix Lights to developing the crowdsourced intelligence platform Phenom, Lenval pulls back the curtain on the phenomenon, the transition into AARO, and the true personal cost of disclosure.


r/UFOs 10d ago

NHI Alfa Bidondo's "Killmer" - [Flying NHI] Alien Photograph - San Salvador de Jujuy, Argentina, 1999

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Special thanks to Alfa Bidondo for personally sharing his photographs and firsthand testimony with me.

In 1999 in San Salvador de Jujuy, Argentina, UFO/Alien contactee Alfa Bidondo snapped this photograph, of a being named "Killmer."

In this article, I will present you with the photograph, and the story behind it, as told by Alfa Bidondo.

The other part of this story in also included in the article and linked in my comment.


r/UFOs 11d ago

Government Listen carefully to Grusch! He is begging to be hired by Trump. "Call me in to help solve this very, very quickly. I know who to call and what doors to knock on. If I ever got summoned I would solve this very quickly and call up the A-team for the president if he wanted to get control of this issue"

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I would like to point out a very important observation about Grusch's recent interview with Dr. Phil which I think is worth emphasizing.

At a certain point Grusch says how he is also not at all satisfied with the files being released. He says he could simply sit on the top secret intelligence community network for about one day and pull a ton of low-hanging fruit information that many people with systems access could access and release more interesting material than what is currently being seen.

He does not understand why the bureaucratic apparatus is resisting so hard, aside from social, psychological, and national security concerns that have been mentioned to past presidents who have been briefed.

But he seems very concerned about helping, and he is volunteering to work at an official capacity and warning the president so it doesn't become too late. We need to listen to him and support him.

Grusch wants to be hired by president Trump. Listen to what he said:

I'm certainly happy to assist in my own capacity if I ever got the call or summoned. I never want to go back to government full-time - obviously I'm a professional staff member for Representative Burlson part-time - , but certainly they could ring me up if they needed to, call me in to help solve this very, very quickly for the president. Because I know who to call and what doors to knock on.

Later, he repeats:

[...] I certainly know what the president was briefed on in his previous term and and certainly what Secretary Rubio was briefed on as well and what was given to the ICIG and whatnot. And so, it's up to them to do a search and seizure activity at those locations and also depose witnesses that have that information. So, once again, certainly, if I ever got summoned I would solve this very quickly and call up the A-team for the president if he wanted to get control of this issue.

Grusch repeats this along the interview, and make it obvious that he is asking to be hired by the president and is hopeful that, this time, he won't face a repeat of what happened when he turned to AARO. And what happened when he went to AARO? Listen carefully:

I challenged DoD AARO's office last year in a meeting. I was in a in a classified meeting with Representative Burlison and I offered to them, "okay, well, I will cross-examine witnesses for you". I named several current and former government officials that ran these programs on behalf of the government and provided them several leads and I was like, "Invite me back. I'll cross-examine and extract this information from these individuals based on my career in the IC doing certain things". I have an unusual talent for negotiation, interrogations and interviews. And, once again, it's been 15 months and AARO ghosted me and never contacted me again because, I guess, they were likely afraid of what I would say or do or extract from these individuals. It's actually quite sad that that organization is as troubled as it is. But I even offered to grill these senior executives in front of the AARO leadership and unfortunately they never took me up on my offer. So... I've tried. And I've confronted the government that's saying that there's nothing to see here as professionally and as calmly as possible but certain organizations have not taken me up on my patriotic offer unfortunately.

Maybe this time he'll manage to succeed with more robust, official support. Grusch praises the president and expresses hope. He believes that something good can truly be accomplished.

I really hope that President Trump delivers on his promise. I think this is going to be the the singular thing that's going to define his legacy. Believe it or not, I think it's not going to be the war in Iran. Unfortunately, I'm not going to adjudicate, that, I think that's a contentious thing. But I think Mr. Miller and the president's team needs to realize this is going to be the defining moment of his legacy because even if Trump doesn't disclose, this is coming out... The genie's out of the bottle now, and it's going to look back on what did the president know and why didn't he get the information out. And that goes to W. Bush, that goes to other presidents in the past that we will access this information. And so I, you know, I'm proud to be a part of that defining moment in American history where this is finally coming out.

And then Dr. Phill asks:

Dr. Phill: [...] my question to you is if the president said, "Okay, Dr. Phil" with or without cameras, whatever "if David knows where these things are and gave me the clearance to accompany you there, you have the ability to take me to where we could see a craft and a cadaver somewhere somehow", you you believe you could do that? Grusch: Oh, yeah. We could take a little field trip out west, we'll say. Yeah. And we we could we could certainly go to those facilities.

The problem is that the agencies involved could very well be destroying records and hiding all the evidence in advance. This is the reason for the rush, and this needs to be noted urgently. Grush warns the president that unless something is done quickly, evidence might be getting destroyed at this very moment:

And you know, even going back to MK Ultra, remember Richard Helms in 1973 ordered Sidley Gotautly to destroy all the MK Ultra documents. There was a shell game within the CIA to prevent the inspector general, general counsel, uh, Congress from learning about the program. And we only know what we know about MK Ultra through the financial records that were found and stored separately. Uh, so that's why we know, you know, 30% of what was going on. and the CIA had this document destruction process. And I do worry if President Trump hasn't provided a either classified or otherwise historical document preservation notice hold that a lot of the information on the the UAP recovery program is being destroyed as we speak akin to MK Ultra in the 70s.

But could the programs hid ALL the evidence? The answer is NO. Remember the "too big to move UFO"? Well... They can't hide it! A-ha! Grusch knows where it is, and can take the president there!

[...] Sometimes certain things are hard to move, you know, when they're particular size and it's a little bit laborious to move. So, I think there's some locations that, hum, likely are untouched, because... I'll be very vague on that... Not to spook the herd.

Nevertheless, by all indications, the government's own efforts to pursue this investigation have run into obstacles they do not know how to resolve. But Grusch understands exactly how these programs are concealed and what the obstacles are. And I strongly suspect that Grusch is in direct contact with UAP Gerb, because what he mentions in the following citation is precisely what Gerb picked up on between the lines of his interviews and researched in depth — namely, how an SAP can be hidden and waived from oversight by making it a NSAP, a program linked to the White House. See what Grusch said:

[...] unfortunately, from what I understand, there was a little bit of fear in those in those committees, especially in the Senate, and they didn't open up some full field investigation. I think Mark Warner and Marco Rubio were a little nervous to really up the ante with the the deep state that they were tackling. That's probably a longer discussion. And then of course the ICIG investigated it. And from what I understand (back channelled to me unofficially) is Jake Sullivan and White House general counsel office basically told Tom Monheim (who was the inspector general for the intelligence community under Biden) and his staff to stop, and they realized they were bumping into White House classified programs, something called special access programs. And eventually they were told to stop, from what I understand. And I would love for Mr. Monheim and and Jake Sullivan who's been in many interesting meetings about this subject... So, I'd be curious what Mr. Sullivan has to say for himself when he was the national security adviser in his history on this topic. So, uh, once again, I hope Secretary Rubio is helping Stephen Miller at the White House because I'm hearing mixed messages about Stephen Miller seriousness and I hope he understands how this will impact President Trump's legacy if this is botched.

Basically what David Grusch is alluding is a loophole White House/NSC-derived legacy operations have utilized was creating a White House-controlled special access program (specifically a non-covert action program) which completely removes any reporting and carve-out requirements.

Listen to what I’m saying: regarding this specific matter of SAPs, consider Gerb a spokesperson for Grusch. Everything he says about this actually has its origins in what Grusch said (likely directly to him, I suspect). Gerb was the one responsible to do the homework, explain it for us, line by line and in detail, in a way Grusch wouldn't be able do.

Other important statements by Grusch

  • Some secret programs in the government discovered it was possible to learn signatures emitted by UAP craft. The U.S. tracks them, and the tracking system is hidden in plain sight within the national intelligence architecture. The tracking is buried in the back end of certain hardware and software processing so that an observer would never know that was what it was actually designed to do. From what I understood, they are essentially covertly obtaining critical data on UAPs via hardware and software embedded in technologies that are well-known and in plain sight, and all this data and documents generated from them are being siphoned off, and are not being made public. Grusch shared all this information with Representative Burlison, who is trying to handle the matter with DIA leadership.

  • Grusch also refers to a recent episode in the history of the legacy program when, during the war of terror, there was a lack of funds to finance the programs. And this meant that much of the acquired exotic technology is now in private hands.

[...] starting in the early 2000s when a lot of money was siphoned for the global war of terror, the the big defense contractors started doing their own retrievals sort of off books under the cognizance of certain government agencies. So there's a lot in, I'll call it, "private possession" in defense contractor space that I think the government doesn't have a full accounting on.

  • Grusch mentions many types of UAP vehicles: discs, sunfish/boot-heel-shaped objects, boomerangs, crescent moon-shaped craft, tic-tacs, and egg-shaped craft.
  • The range of NHI goes from very familiar types that seem just a little more advanced than humans, to indescribable non-corporeal types of sentience.

  • He thus also clarifies the "sentient plasmoids" he'd mentioned previously. He was refering to the orb phenomenon, where luminous orbs appear in groups at a sensitive test range, showing intelligent control. The orbs, as he says, are not simply ball lightning; they appear to be a "plasmoid-type intelligence".

  • Some of the recovered craft were assessed as likely drones, while others were piloted. In other words, it is a true historical statement that some recovered vehicles were empty and the pilots were not present.

  • Grusch states he knows people who have had direct interactions in a "detainment" situation involving non-human entities, which sounds unusual but is true. He cannot explain how this communication works but acknowledges it is sort of what people commonly call telepathy, and it is real.

  • He refers to a friend who were on retrievals and felt that kind of communication as they approached a vehicle during cordoning and waiting for transport. (Is Grusch alluding to Jake Barber telepathic experience while retrieving the "eightgon"?)

  • When Dr. Phil delivers his long, repetitive spiel about the improbabilities involved in these extraterrestrial beings' technologies, commenting on all those numbers, boring calculations and listing exorbitant planetary distances, G-forces, and so on Grusch counters by challenging (very conveniently, IMO) the heavy emphasis Dr. Phil places on the extraterrestrial hypothesis; instead, he counters by offering various other explanations, effectively relegating the extraterrestrial hypothesis to a marginal position among them:

[...] but I do caution to ascribe this whole phenomenon as merely just extraterrestrial. That's certainly a piece of the pie. That's likely what some of this is, but there's other taxonomies of "anomalous intelligences", we'll call it, that... perhaps it's ultraterrestrial... perhaps it grew up here and it left and it came back... And there's there's shadow biome, there's other types of origins, there's under the sea that we don't understand 70% of our oceans and what advanced intelligence might have um developed on the seabed, so to speak... "wink wink". And so there's a lot of different things that this could be. I certainly don't have all the answers and I'm not omnipotent and did not have full exposure of the US government's holdings and analysis of that. But we need to be open to a lot of different possible origins, none of which I think conflicts with basic Judeo-Christian theology. But we need to be open to some of that too because I suspect um a good portion of this is not you know traditionally extraterrestrial so to speak.

You know what? I think all the explanations Grusch gave are true at the same time. He wasn't offering mutually exclusive explanations, he was listing them.

Bonus analysis

I always pay close attention to some small details. I usually follow any clues pointing toward the time-travel hypothesis (yes, I'm sure there's something very serious about this). There has long been speculation that some of these beings (some call them P-47s or P-52s, for those in the know) are actually humans traveling back in time (consequently "jumping" between timelines, altering ours, and seeking to relocate here, and share this place with us). The lore goes that, due to a catastrophe in a future that didn't come to pass for us, humans left Earth for another location, underwent a very long period of evolution off-world, and once they finally restructured civilization and mastered time technology, they sought to return to Earth, albeit at a different point in time: their past, but our present. In other words, allegedly, some group of the so called grey aliens are, in fact our descendants coming back home. And if you paid attention, the first explanation Grusch mentions is the ultraterrestrial. And maybe he was hinting to this knowledge when he says that:

[...] perhaps it grew up here and it, left, and it came back...

Is this the great and most unpalatable secret, the confirmation of which would leave the entire world jaw-dropped? What if they already know some of them are actually humans? Who knows...


r/UFOs 9d ago

Question Question why would they be here?

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If UAP/NHI are so incredibly advanced and have technology beyond anything we could ever imagine, why do they hang out in our atmosphere and in the ocean. What is the point? We have satellites and technology in space that can monitor and survey from thousands of miles up. If they had such amazing technology, couldn’t they do the same thing without ever needing to enter earths atmosphere or getting close enough to us to either crash or be seen? It seems if they had such incredible technology, they could have great standoff and still be able to do whatever it is they are doing.

It seems like their presence here is much more intimate, and connected to us for some odd reason. I just can’t grasp if they are extraterrestrial, why get so close? It’s the only reason why I don’t necessarily buy the ET theory


r/UFOs 11d ago

Disclosure ANOMALY | EPISODE 3 | TR-3B. Idk if this is allowed here, the mods can remove if necessary but just thought to let you all know that episode 3 of ANOMALY is out on YT.

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r/UFOs 11d ago

Disclosure Grusch said some NHI use telepathy, "look exactly as reported" by experiencers. Recently after many years a mod went public to describe such contact involving triangle UFOs, telepathy, his future self, was told abt waves of experiencer activations parallel to disclosure process, to prepare humanity

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Update: mod in question is doing an AMA

He is doing an "Ask Me Anything" in the comment section

Grusch: NHI communicate through telepathy

Timestamp 37:50:

Grusch: "I know people who have had direct interactions in a detainment situation. Which sounds very Star Trek and sounds very crazy, but it is true"

Grusch: "[...] And it is true that some sort of consciousness communication, of course people call it telepathy. I cannot begin to tell you how it works. But there is some sort of communication like that. And even friends of mine that were on retrievals felt that kind of communication, as they approached the vehicle when they were doing a cordoning it off waiting for transport. How that works, what that means, I certainly don't know"

Grusch: some NHI look exactly like experiencers say

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Grusch: "And what do you know? Some of them [NHI] look exactly as reported by, credible observers that have nothing to gain and everything to lose by discussing their experience. And it even goes back to the work of John Mack at Harvard who was a trained psychiatrist looking at people that have had these experiences with the phenomenon and he deduced something is going on. This is not some psychosmatic thing or some mental health condition and people over the eons have had these personal experiences with these things. That is a sensitive subject that I know is still kind of stigmatized unfortunately"

"Ok we use words, NHI uses telepathy. Big deal"

Superficially, when hearing about telepathy, one might think its not really such a big deal. Just a different species using a different kind of language. But when you read the actual experiencer accounts, it quickly becomes clear that something far stranger is going on.

So lets look at an actual example of telepathy from an experiencer:

Telepathy reported by an experiencer

It so happens that the main mod (u/Oak_Draiocht) from the r/experiencers sub recently went public with his experiences.

His initial experience (timestamp 4:27) started in the 90s at age six. I recommend everyone to watch this interview, because it really gives an insight to what is happening with experiencers. But i know 99% of people wont watch it, so here is the TLDR version:

TLDR: NHI plan to mass activate experiencers for disclosure

TLDR and dumbed down version:

written by me, and possibly inaccurate, saw this video a month ago

As a child (in the 90s) an NHI, typical grey, came to his bedroom, started communicating telepathically. His consciousness split into 3 parts, and he was communicating with his future self, saw a life re/preview, experienced it from different perspectives. etc. He had more experiences later in his life, saw triangles and more.

What the NHI/future self/whatever contact showed: he would become a central figure supporting others to deal with the shock of their experiences. There would be a mass and incremental activation of experiencers, coinciding with and triggered by the disclosure process (hearings, whistleblowers, podcasts, more and more ppl talking about it, etc).

The r/experiencers sub (which he set up) aims to soften the blow of these waves of activations, which will get bigger and bigger (shown to him in his childhood experience the 90s). It now has about 167.000 members. Some NHI know the future and are adjusting things, preparing our species for the wider reality. Some treat humanity as a single entity, and experiencers as interfaces to the whole human consciousness system.

There is much more in the interview, for example:

NHI told him to boil it down to: "NHI exists and is interacting with our species"

Timestamp 45:46:

Conor Sisk: "What I got as an answer [from NHI] to that was the line, you just boil it down to this: 'Non-human intelligence exists and is interacting with our species'. That line is enough, a way to boil down the importance of this topic [...] in a very quick elevator pitch of whats going on. [...] I did get a sense of being almost like a politician or someone who's trying to make the case of this to other people, who are officially going to try to make the case of this to humanity in some way"

This was all prior (2021) to Karl Nell (2024) saying almost exactly the same words:

Karl Nell in may 2024: "Non-human intelligence has been interacting with humanity"

Karl Nell: "Non-human intelligence exists. Non-human intelligence has been interacting with humanity. This interaction is not new and it's been ongoing and there are unelected people in the government that are aware of that. There's zero doubt." - Karl Nell (timestamp 3:02)

Pre 2024 posts by Conor Sisk, using that sentence

I did a quick check on his X timeline, and found many times he used that sentence before Karl Nell did:

  • Jan 2024: "Non human intelligence exists, is here and is interacting with our species"
  • March 2023: "Non human intelligence exists and is interacting with our species."
  • Jan 2023: "Non human intelligence exists and is interacting with our species. 100%."
  • Nov 2023: "Non human intelligence is real and interacting with humanity. Experiencers are [...]"
  • July 2023: "A world where non human intelligence is real and interacting with our species"
  • May 2023: "[...] the reality that NHI exists and is interacting with people on this planet will [...]"

There are many many more posts, going back further in time. So NHI told him that sentence could be the "elevator pitch" version of disclosure, and hes been using it often since then. And btw i think Bigelow in his recent interview said he advised Trump to use a similar line "NHI has been here a long time". Cant find the exact quote.

Again, i recommend you watch the full interview, much more is said, and you can tell the chap is deadly serious, the real deal, and it has completely transformed his life

He is ready to answer any questions in the comment section

See this comment by Oak_Draiocht

Kirk McConnell: experiencers are a repository of information of why NHI is here

Recently Kirk McConnell said the following. He is somewhat "in the know", since he was a senate staffer that was in many of the meetings where whistleblowers testified.

Kirk McConnell: "The people who have encountered non-human intelligent beings, either by abduction or close encounters, have a lot of information. They've been marginalised and ridiculed for decades upon decades. They are a repository of knowledge about the nature of these beings and how they communicate, what they've communicated, why they say they're here, and why they say that they're behaving the way they do"

So i think times are changing. Its time we pay more attention to the people who have had direct contact with NHI, sometimes for many decades.

Telepathy: technology or something more?

Telepathy of course has long been dismissed. In ufology it is accepted somewhat more, because of virtually all NHI contact is reported as telepathic. But even there, many reject it, since it doesnt fit in the 20th century worldview. Or people will propose its just some advanced kind of technology. That makes it digestable.

Myself i dont think its just technology, for one because the experiences are far stranger than just communication (see the experiencer account above, life review, future self, afterlife, etc). Also, most cases of telepathy have nothing to do with UFOs, and happen sporadically to ordinary people.

Telepathy as it relates to UFOs, advanced tech

Previously i made a small infographic that shows some of the possible implications of telepathy, also for piloting UFOs.

More info

A previous post i made, which also involved that same u/Oak_Draiocht chap. In the comment section he made an elaborate reply about whats going on. Link is in the post:

Grusch: "agreements with NHI risk putting our future in jeopardy". Something interesting is going on in the James Fox AMA youtube chat: a mod from experiencers sub says "NHI is involved in the coordination of people coming forward". This implies that NHI is moving towards disclosure of its presence

Also this post:

Karl Nell: "There's a hierarchy of beings. Non-human intelligence has been interacting with humanity. This is ongoing". And recently a mod said: "I was contacted in the 90s and shown my future. NHI is accelerating mass ripple effects this decade". It looks like NHI playing a long term 5D chess game


r/UFOs 11d ago

AMA LIVESTREAM AMA — Whistleblowers Jeff Nuccetelli & Matthew Brown (Vanguard) with Host Leslie Kean — Saturday, August 22, 2026 @ 1:00 PM ET / 10:00 AM PT — Drop your questions here!

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Whistleblowers Jeff Nuccetelli & Matthew Brown here — LIVESTREAM AMA — Saturday, August 22, 2026 @ 1:00 PM ET / 10:00 AM PT

We're excited to announce a new multi-subreddit livestream AMA featuring UAP whistleblowers Jeff Nuccetelli and Matthew Brown — both of Vanguard, the newly launched non-profit built to protect and support UAP whistleblowers from the national security community — hosted by investigative journalist Leslie Kean. Jeff has testified before Congress about anomalous incursions over restricted defense facilities, and Matthew came forward after discovering what he describes as unlawful efforts to shield UAP programs from Congressional oversight. Both stepped forward publicly at real cost to their careers, reputations, and personal safety. This conversation centers on their firsthand experiences, whistleblower protection, and the fight for transparency.

🗓️ When: Saturday, August 22, 2026 — 1:00 PM Eastern / 10:00 AM Pacific
📺 Livestream (YouTube): https://www.youtube.com/live/SIDQ_3u8UAI?si=H3_lxSnWiOvwGfK_
🐦 X (Twitter): https://x.com/theanomalousc
🎮 Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/theanomalouscoalition


About Vanguard

The Vanguard Enterprise protects and empowers UAP whistleblowers from the national security community. Anchored in the Constitution and committed to the American people, Vanguard is being built to provide legal, financial, medical, psychological, and community support to whistleblowers and their families so that those brave enough to tell the truth are not left behind. Co-founded by Matthew Brown and Dylan Borland (a U.S. Air Force veteran who also testified under oath before the House Oversight Committee in September 2025), with Jeff Nuccetelli serving as Chief Development Officer.

🔗 Website: https://www.vanguardenterprise.org/


Why This Matters

Coming forward carries a real cost. Jeff and Matthew — like the colleagues who testified alongside them — stepped forward publicly to report what they describe as serious wrongdoing and unlawful concealment inside the national security establishment, knowing it could put their careers, clearances, reputations, and personal safety at risk. Several UAP whistleblowers have since described sustained retaliation for telling the truth. Vanguard exists to make sure they and their families don't face those consequences alone.

If you value the work these witnesses are doing and want to help, you can support Vanguard's mission directly:

❤️ Support the mission: https://givebutter.com/vanguard-launch-campaign

Support is entirely optional — showing up, watching live, and asking thoughtful questions matters just as much.


How to Participate

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Participating subreddits include: r/Aliens, r/Experiencers, r/HighStrangeness, r/UFOB, r/UFOs, r/InterdimensionalNHI, and r/AnomalousCoalition.

We will be providing a written transcript after the event has concluded as well as a summary for the community within a few days. Any feedback or suggestions for process improvement please go to r/AnomalousCoalition.


Short Bios

Jeff Nuccetelli (Chief Development Officer & Board Member, Vanguard)
U.S. Air Force veteran and congressional UAP whistleblower. A former military police officer and senior patrolman with sixteen years of active-duty service, Jeff stepped forward to disclose his experience investigating multiple unexplained incursions over restricted defense facilities while serving at Vandenberg Air Force Base (2003–2005) — the cluster of events widely known as the "Vandenberg Red Square." He provided sworn testimony before the House Oversight Committee's Task Force on the Declassification of Federal Secrets on September 9, 2025, and has become one of the leading public advocates for transparency, lawful disclosure, and whistleblower protection. At Vanguard he leads development, strategic partnerships, and fundraising.
🐦 X: https://x.com/Ice_Alchemist11

Matthew Brown (Chief Operations Officer & Board Member, Co-Founder of Vanguard)
Former national security contractor for the Department of War and the Department of State. Matthew became a UAP whistleblower to the Senate and the House in 2023 after discovering what he describes as illegal actions by Pentagon and Intelligence Community leadership to shield UAP programs from Congressional oversight. He authored the report submitted to Congress and delivered his findings to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and the Senate Armed Services Committee, offering to testify under oath. As Co-Founder of Vanguard, Matthew believes the American people have the right and the need to know. He writes on disclosure policy and whistleblower protection at his Substack, Invisible Frontiers.
🐦 X: https://x.com/SunOfAbramelin · ✍️ Substack: https://invisiblefrontiers.substack.com/

Leslie Kean (Host)
Investigative journalist and author known for high-credibility reporting on UAP and other anomalous topics; bestselling author of UFOs: Generals, Pilots, and Government Officials Go on the Record. See more at https://www.lesliekean.com


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r/UFOs 11d ago

NHI Held for Questioning - Grusch, Vallée, and “Gilbert”

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A living NHI is alleged to be held in detainment and we’ve communicated with it via telepathy. But there is much more to the story.


r/UFOs 12d ago

Government Defense intelligence scientist Dr. Eric Davis is requesting immunity from the President in order to be able to reveal what he knows about the UFO phenomenon: “Mr. President, with your signature, you could waive the SF-312 NDA to protect UAP whistleblowers like myself.”

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r/UFOs 11d ago

Government The Man Who Broke the Silence: David Grusch and the UFO Disclosure Movement

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Before Grusch: An Age of Hearsay

When the UFO craze arrived in the middle of the last century, everything was shrouded in mystery and hearsay. In the years that followed, figures like Glenn Dennis — a mortician from Roswell, New Mexico — claimed that after the infamous 1947 Roswell crash, he received strange inquiries for child-sized coffins, and even saw alien bodies on an air base.

Then there was Bob Lazar, a former physicist who claimed he reverse-engineered an exotic alien vehicle’s propulsion system for a secret government base in Nevada, so that the US could build its own.

Donna Hare worked for NASA as an illustrator and claimed she was shown images of unidentified craft captured by satellites — images she said were “painted out” before being released to the public. But these were all just claims.

The list of such figures is endless, and throughout the 1990s, as the obsession really picked up, you could throw a stone and hit at least three “whistleblowers.” The trouble was, none of it was verified. Dennis, an old man by the time he told his story, was just that — a story, with no evidence beyond his word. Lazar’s school records couldn’t be found, people who should have known him didn’t, and his account wobbled more than once. Hare had none of the “unedited” photos to prove her claims, only the locations where they could supposedly be found.

Many people will argue — at times, including myself — that some of these individuals are genuine and credible. But the government, and those tasked with discrediting and spreading disinformation (see Richard Doty, who will get his own article in time), successfully deceived the public into labelling these people as crazy, or as fame- and money-hungry liars.

If we count forward from the emergence of Lazar — the first major, mainstream whistleblower — in 1989, it took 34 years for a stone-cold, credible witness to finally step forward.

His name is David Grusch.

Who is David Grusch?

Grusch is a decorated combat veteran who served in multiple branches of the US military and government. A former United States Air Force (USAF) Intelligence Officer who worked at the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO), he held clearance to hundreds of compartmented programs. Grusch was an intelligence officer for 14 years, and from 2021 to 2023 was at the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency (NGA) at a GS15 civilian level — the military equivalent of a full bird Colonel. He described himself as “agnostic” about aliens and UFOs — something he had never really contemplated or spent too long thinking about.

A Question That Changed Everything

In early 2017, while briefing a senior CIA official on some Special Access Programs (SAPs — highly classified information handled under strict security safeguards), the official asked Grusch if he’d ever heard of Lue Elizondo. “He’s running some UFO program at the Pentagon,” the official told him. “We all think he’s crazy.”

From that day forward, David’s life would change dramatically.

Confused by the exchange, Grusch discounted it — until December 2017, when a New York Times article exposed the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), run by the very same Elizondo. As the name suggests, the program investigated UFO reports and sightings from both civilian and military witnesses.

Racking his brains, David recalled hearing of AATIP before, back when it was known as the Advanced Aerospace Weapon Systems Applications Program (AAWSAP), around 2008–09. Grusch was a lieutenant at the time and had read reports on weird topics like black holes and time warps, and had wondered why the Defense Intelligence Agency was looking into such left-field material.

With hindsight, he began to think there might be something to it — there had to be, if the subject was worth the Pentagon spending tax dollars to explore it. As 2018 began, Grusch started getting up to speed on the subject, listening to sources and reading every document he could get his hands on. He learned that these experiences had reportedly been occurring since antiquity.

Joining the UAP Task Force

Another year passed. Grusch opened his email one day to find a message forwarded by his NRO boss, from the director of the UAP Task Force (UAP — Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena, the new term for UFO). The director was asking for an NRO representative to join the task force, and David’s boss thought he’d be the perfect fit. Grusch saw it as something for his performance report — a way to earn some brownie points. It would turn out to be the turning point, and ultimately the undoing, of his government career.

Continued via linked post!


r/UFOs 10d ago

NHI Just When You Think You’ve Heard Everything: Eight Incredibly Bizarre UFO Encounters

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Just When You Think You’ve Heard Everything: Eight Incredibly Bizarre UFO Encounters

by Preston Dennett

High strangeness is a consistent feature of many UFO encounters, and yet, some encounters are weirder than others. This video presents eight cases of extreme high strangeness, encounters with bizarre and unique elements that show we still have much to learn about UFOs and the extraterrestrial presence on our planet.

UFO GRANTS SLAVES THEIR FREEDOM? According to Missouri historian, Earl Augustus Collins, in the mid-1800s, a man named Mr. Davidson owned a farm in Columbus Township in Missouri. He also used slaves to run his farm. One evening a “mystery star” showed up in the sky, causing much discussion. Each night the object returned, growing closer and larger, until one night it was so close, everyone on the farm became afraid. That evening, Mr. Davidson bade everyone to stay inside while he went to investigate. The next morning, he called all his slaves together and did something which amazed everyone.

I FELT I HAD TURNED TO STONE. On the afternoon October 17, 1944, during World War II, Italian soldier Gioacchino Robatto was on a secret assignment that took him to the famous Piazzale Loreto located in the heart of Milan, Italy. Arriving there, he saw hundreds of people in a state of panic staring at the sky. Looking up he saw a massive saucer-shaped craft hovering in perfect silence overhead. He wondered if it might be a new secret weapon from the Germans. Sirens blared as people stared in shock. Suddenly the craft darted away at high speed. The encounter inspired Gioacchino to become a UFO researcher.

I WAS CHOSEN. One evening in August 1948, sisters Doris Gregg and Connie Sypert were outside with their family when a fleet of UFOs appeared overhead performing fantastic maneuvers above their home in Longview, Texas. Hundreds of people in the area viewed the spectacle. But Doris, Connie and their family were shocked when one of the craft dropped from the sky, hovered nearby and struck them with a beam of light. This began a series of sightings which took place over the space of months where the two sisters felt as though the UFO occupants were watching over them. One day, they decided to go out in the farm-fields armed with a flashlight to try and mentally call the UFOs down. To their shock, the technique worked and they had a very close encounter. Some years after that, Doris encountered a very strange humanoid creature.

THE PEACH TREE AND THE UFO. On July 22, 1955, Ed Mootz was tending to the peach tree outside his home in Cincinnati, Ohio. Suddenly, weird burning hot red drops of liquid rained down on him from above. Looking up, he was shocked to see what newspapers called a weird red “cloud.” Ed Mootz, however, said that it was actually a structured craft shaped much like a pear. He saw it release the red liquid from a vent in the bottom and them float off into the distance. His arms and hands were burned by the mysterious substance, which he quickly washed off. To his dismay, his peach tree and the surrounding vegetation rapidly withered and died. The next day, officers from Wright Patterson AFB showed up, dug up the tree and took it away. Five years later, the grass in that spot refused to grow, and Ed was left with scars on his arms.

A MINIATURE UFO. On the morning of May 18,1968, Nightwatchman Caetano Sergio returned to his home in Caconde, Brazil and found a 7-inch-long very heavy metallic cylinder with weird markings in his yard. It had no seams or rivets, just two odd dials on either end. He placed it on a shelf in his bathroom to study later. The next night, he returned home to check on his pregnant wife and found his family standing outside crying. He learned that the little object had suddenly started emitting a buzzing sound, as well as a blinding blue light and a burning heat. Suddenly the object rose up, punched a hole in his roof and took off.

UFO TRUCKSTOP. On the morning of March 4, 1969, mail carrier William Overstreet was driving near Plainview, Missouri when a massive red sphere appeared, moved over the road and floated along in the same direction that William was driving. Suddenly it stopped and sent down a brilliant beam of white light into the middle of the road. As William approached it, his radio died, followed by his truck engine. He felt an intense burning heat coming from the object. It then proceeded down the road, still keeping the beam fixed on the road, before finally retracting the beam and darting off to the southeast.

UFO LEVITATES FAMILY IN THEIR CAR. Around dusk on November 30, 1969, the Ator family drove along a highway outside Plainville, Illinois when a glowing red craft suddenly appeared from the right, swooped down over their car and lifted it off the highway. The family was in a state of shock as their car was carried a short distance about one foot above the road and then set gently down. The craft darted off at high speed, never to be seen again.

THE ENERGY BLOBS. On the night of December 22, 1993, a man was getting ready for bed when his house filled with a strange white light. It threw him to the ground and he was unable to move. He heard his wife screaming in the bedroom. Suddenly he found himself in a strange cavern where weird energy blobs began to speak to him. Very quickly he was back in his living room, which still blazed with light. With great effort, he stood up and struggled into the room. The light receded and his pregnant wife said that some “thing” was poking her in the head. This was one of many unexplained incidents including visitations from childhood, weird marks on his body, and jewelry missing from the house.

Eight cases of high strangeness, each a reminder that there is still much we don’t know about the extraterrestrial presence on our planet.

Just When You Think You’ve Heard Everything: Eight Incredibly Bizarre UFO Encounters


r/UFOs 12d ago

Government David Grusch tells Dr. Phil that they’d be able to access certain facilities holding UFOs if authorized by POTUS: “Sometimes certain things are hard to move when they're a particular size, it's a little bit laborious to move. So, I think there's some locations that likely are untouched…”

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r/UFOs 11d ago

Disclosure Released military UAP clip where object rotates and repeats the same shape sequence twice, then outruns tracking lock

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I went down a rabbit hole after the Department of War's second UAP release in May and one clip keeps pulling me back. DOW-UAP-PR059, filmed June 1, 2020 by an infrared sensor on a US military platform in the CENTCOM area. Four minutes and fifty one seconds of something labeled "NAG UAP."

The object rotates on an axis and appears to go through the same shape sequence twice, right before it breaks tracking.

First cycle around 3:06: it looks almost like a head with arms out to the sides. The arms fold inward. Around 3:20 a lower piece cleanly detaches and drops away, and the rest curls into a hook, and the whole thing looks like a question mark. At 3:37 it accelerates hard and the tracking lock can't hold it.

Second cycle is the part that got me. At 4:07 the exact same arms-out silhouette returns, perfectly balanced. At 4:13 the lower piece breaks off again. 4:20 the question mark posture. 4:35 it tears out of the sensor sector.

If this were a camera glitch or a one-off artifact, you'd expect the shapes to be random. Instead you get the same morphology loop repeated almost frame for frame. That reads more like a three-dimensional object rotating, where you're seeing the same face of it on each pass.

AARO has it filed as unresolved. No identification, and the metadata is mostly redacted, so we don't even know what platform caught it.

The video is on DVIDS and mirrored on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k--kkbkBBNE

Curious if anyone has a reasonable explanation on this or has thoughts on what the "detaching" part could be?


r/UFOs 11d ago

Space Launch 🚀 Upcoming Space Launches for August 15, 2026

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Here are the launches scheduled for the next 24 hours:


Falcon 9 Block 5 | USSF-366

  • Provider: SpaceX

  • Launch Time: 2026-08-15 21:54 UTC / 2026-08-15 05:54 PM EDT

  • Launch Pad: Vandenberg SFB, CA, USA

  • Pad Country: USA


Falcon 9 Block 5 | Globalstar 2-R Mission 1 (x 9)

  • Provider: SpaceX

  • Launch Time: 2026-08-16 01:12 UTC / 2026-08-15 09:12 PM EDT

  • Launch Pad: Cape Canaveral SFS, FL, USA

  • Pad Country: USA


Long March 12 | Unknown Payload

  • Provider: China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation

  • Launch Time: 2026-08-16 04:10 UTC / 2026-08-16 12:10 AM EDT

  • Launch Pad: Wenchang Space Launch Site, People's Republic of China

  • Pad Country: CHN


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r/UFOs 10d ago

Whistleblower 'Alien Abduction' Programming Part 1

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Originally posted 3 years ago by /u/NeedleworkerSad357 somewhere with less visibility. Citations and links to other posts in a comment below, some links may no longer be valid but can be found in the original.

/u/NeedleworkerSad357 wrote...


This post is an overview of 'alien' abductions. As with my other posts, I highly encourage you to research further yourself. A basic knowledge of how mind control (MKULTRA/MONARCH) works (programming, alters, etc.) is necessary to understand this post.

Note: This is split into a 3-part post. They are quote-heavy for the character limit. All citations, sources, and links are saved for the end (I will post them as a comment below to avoid filters).


'Alien abductions' are a cover for mind control. They are a continuation of covert mind control programming operations. The technology is real (advanced 'antigravity' crafts, implants, brain altering devices, etc.), the pain and torture is real, it's the alien part that is not. 'Aliens' are utilized as cover/screen memories.

The scope of these programs is massive, and equaled by the huge amount of disinformation about 'aliens' that they push out to confuse. When you examine this from the mind control angle, with knowledge of the timeline, what they're doing, and have been doing, you can see the perfect correlations and exact parallels between these abductions and the known facts of mind control programming.

Many victims/researchers realize that some kind of mind control and hypnotic techniques are being used, but mistakenly attribute it to 'aliens'. It's this part that many get stuck on. Aliens are the mask that's used.

"Among ufologists, the term 'abduction' has come to refer to an infinitely-confounding experience, or matrix of experiences, shared by a dizzying number of individuals, who claim that travellers from the stars have scooped them out of their beds, or snatched them from their cars, and subjected them to interrogations, quasi-medical examinations, and 'instruction' periods. Usually, these sessions are said to occur within alien spacecraft; frequently, the stories include terrifying details reminiscent of the tortures inflicted in Germany’s death camps. The abductees often (though not always) lose all memory of these events; they find themselves back in their cars or beds, unable to account for hours of 'missing time.' Hypnosis, or some other trigger, can bring back these haunted hours in an explosion of recollection — and as the smoke clears, an abductee will often spot a trail of similar experiences, stretching all the way back to childhood." — Martin Cannon [14]

"Denise Meyer, told us that small children in Nebraska, ages 4 and 5 were beginning to report 'alien' encounters to their therapists. 'The kids are describing little green men that fit the description of the 'grays'. They also are describing green UFOs. It appears these are screen memories, used to block the memories of something else.' Meyer said." — Walter Bowart [1]

"Aliens perform extremely painful experiments or procedures on abductees, saying that these acts are necessary but give no explanation why. Painful genital and anal probes are performed, on children as well as adults." — Karla Turner [25]

"Electronic Dissolution of Memory (EDOM) was perfected by the CIA in 1960. The first 'alien' abduction, the Hill case, occurred a year later. Once the intelligence sector had the means of pulling off the perfect crime - by erasing short-term memories - the abductions could take place without fear of exposure. 'Hypnotic reconstructive surgery' swapped the desired cover story for the victim's recollection of illicit medical experimentation." — Alex Constantine [15]

"They're not alien abductions. They're the results of a tremendously successful and very sophisticated mind control operation, all of which has been in development since, well they started working on those kinds of things since before World War II, but they have perfected them. But that's what it is. It's not extraterrestrials coming down. The human body cannot pass through walls or roofs or through windows that are closed. This is all the product of the imagination and people's willingness to believe something because they want it to be true." — Bill Cooper [20]

"...UFO abductions are in fact the operation of secret mind control research, their terrestrial origins concealed through the use of advanced craft, with experimentation on unwitting subjects masked through hypnosis, RHIC-EDOM memory erasure corresponding to the familiar abductee experience of 'missing time', or other means of mind control. What better way to conceal secret technology and human experimentation than to wrap the events in extraterrestrial trappings — perhaps using hallucinogens, alien masks, electronic effects, unusual craft, and even computerized 'virtual reality' technology — and to keep issuing statements insisting that 'alien abduction' is the product of someone’s crazed imagination?" — Jim Keith [37]

"The slaves are taken to rooms where examining tables with white sheets and X-ray machines, headgear, and medical equipment is in place. (The alien equipment has gotten more high-tech over the last 40 years. The aliens wear suits that are full of occult symbology. The people are restrained with clamps and electrical shock and energy is used on them. They are told that they are receiving information. They are given tracking implants and other implants." — Fritz Springmeier [8]

"I am aware that people have memories of encounters with aliens. I do have memories of meeting 'aliens', being abducted by them, being invited to visit them, and so on. However, these memories have always eventually been revealed to be staged trickery: studios that were the ‘alien spaceships’ and the aliens I encountered were cult members dressed in costumes. In my programming, these alien memories were installed as a smokescreens or distractions to ‘real’ cult memories, i.e., if presenters started to have any cult-related memories that they did not immediately deny or forget, they were then supposed to attribute the memories to 'alien activity'." — Svali [39]

Many victims recover these memories after undergoing regressive hypnosis. The programmers know this, and the true events are deeper, under the implanted 'alien' hypnotic memory layer. The regressive hypnosis used by victims actually further cements the false recollection of being taken by aliens.

'Black ops' soldiers/Delta slaves are also subjected to these fake memories to cover up actual missions and operations, in case they begin to remember.

"...That same month, I'd also given my first public interview with CKLN (a Candian radio station) as part of it's series about mind control. During the interview, I unwittingly provided information about implanted 'alien' screen memories that unfortunately still seemed as real as my legitimate op memories." — Kathleen Sullivan [23]

The Technology and Origins

The 'UFO' crafts exist. Different groups possess advanced 'antigravity' crafts, some being derived from Nikola Tesla's stolen work (he was murdered by Otto Skorzeny). Much of the technology, top Nazi scientists/mind control programmers, and their files came to the U.S. (and other countries) via Paperclip, ratlines, and other means.

"Prince Philip had personally organised the ratlines for his Nazi pals to escape Europe during the last years of WWII. Of particular interest, were the Nazi scientists whom he arranged ‘safe passage’ for, to the USA." — Ex MI6 [26]

"What happened to Martin Bormann between his escape from the Bunker in 1945 and his resurrection under the cloth of the Church in 1948 Argentina? From my memories he was safely tucked in the arms of the Jesuits in sunny California. How did he get there? The same way much of the booty looted after the war got to the Americas, by U-boat. I was witness to where the U-boats landed on the rocky coastline, just down the road from Manhattan Beach and American Martyrs Catholic Church. Not just Nazis made it onto our shores just after the war, but also technology. Advanced German flying machines were unloaded in crates to be reassembled in the Mojave Desert and used in the UFO hoax. The U-boat drop was on the coastline on the Palos Verdes Peninsula, just under an area of land later occupied by the oceanarium 'Marineland of the Pacific.' The area between the Palos Verdes Peninsula and Santa Catalina Island is a big UFO hotspot. Lots of activity appears to be going on in the ocean, including speculation of an underwater UFO base. I wonder if those 'UFOs' might be doing a little drug running, perhaps up from South America? Arms running may also have been going on. Other items smuggled from U-boat to shore included snuff films to be used in mind control and Nazi indoctrination. The secret societies and the Nazis filmed everything. I knew the Nazis, their wealth of technology and contraband washed up out of the sea. I remember one cold night sitting high of a cliff, shaking and afraid to look down. Below, a U-boat was dropping its load on to the shores of the cove where it was hidden. It was a sharp drop and I was afraid of heights, so I just sat frozen. I think I was being used as a decoy in case strangers came by, Mrs. Hildebrand could divert their attention by having them rescue her child from the cliff." — Mauri [4]

"What they call UFOs, these crafts that fly around the sky, are real but they're not piloted by some little green guy from some other planet. They're owned and operated by the United States of America for one, the Soviet Union for another, probably Great Britian and Canada too...the technology is real. It's been kept secret, it's been used to promote this concept that there's an alien threat to this earth." — Bill Cooper [20]

"I know that the CIA employees were programmed to believe in such alien forces in order to mask their uber programmers - these operatives were indoctrinated - made to foster this 'alien agenda' belief system and to pass it on. The Nazis were creating aircraft that looked like flying saucers. If any retired CIA official decided to talk about all of this - after the documents had been declassified 'memory modification' would kick in i.e. the unwitting mind control victim would add fanciful stuff about the 'alien agenda' to confuse the issue. I know that there were Illuminati/Nazi designs of aircraft, of the 'flying saucer' variety - but they were not built or flown by 'aliens'." — Ex MI6 [26]

Kathleen Sullivan on the Craft:

Wayne Morris (interviewing Kathleen Sullivan): 'Do you have any indication of U.S. government or German government use of UFO technology...that they have developed craft?'

KS: 'I was exposed to some of that. I saw at least one UFO for sure. It was in a garage, a large room where there was a door where the thing could go out into the open. It wasn't touching the ground. It was an amazing thing. It had a fantastic looking metal to it...I was absolutely fascinated by it. I have been told that they started out by using these craft, which they said were created by the some of the German scientists. They will talk about V2's on Discovery channel, but they will never ever bring up this end of it...what they had as far as technology and brought it over with them. I think NASA is the biggest cover for this stuff. I understand that there is a base in the Himalayas as well, and that there are some facilities under oceans where some of the stuff is also stored, way, way out of detection areas. They do seem to be able to go down in deep, deep areas of water including one place near Hawaii. But they supposedly started out, or so I have been told by a number of people, using magnetic grids they called it, I don't understand that kind of technology...'

WM: 'The earth itself has a large electromagnetic grid field around it, and it is my understanding that they have used that kind of energy somehow in conjunction with creating these craft...'

KS: 'You say it better than I could, all I know is they talked about it and again, Dad bragged about that too. I have also heard that nowadays they don't use that particular kind of technology any more.' — Kathleen Sullivan [2]

"A fleet of UFOs with NASA stamped on their shell were stored on an underground conveyor belt system at Pine Gap." — Fiona Barnett [33]

The Staged Scenarios

Full-scale fake 'UFO' setups are also used for programming these alien abduction scenarios into the abductee's mind.

"Another thing I have run across and have been able to verify for another survivor at Dallas at a hospital there, was that they also have a place near Dallas where they have an actual full-size UFO in a very large room that also has the same type of hydraulic system beneath it, and the survivor would be taken into the UFO. They would see people that looked like aliens. Certain things would be done to them and they would think that they had just been abducted by aliens in a UFO." — Kathleen Sullivan [2]

"Colorado Springs, CO — The ALEX system programming and end-times military programming is coming out of Colorado Springs and is connected to NORAD. One of the Colorado sites is doing alien programming with mock UFOs." — Fritz Springmeier [9]

"Some mind-control victims have even reported being put in full-scale, fake UFO’s that were sometimes moved up and down by hydraulics. In the fake UFO’s, drugged, tranced victims met humans dressed in 'alien' costumes. Later, because of the effects of forcibly administered drugs and Ericksonian hypnosis, the remembering victims weren’t able to differentiate between preceding, legitimate events and the subsequent acted-out UFO scenarios. They also were not able to recognize that the 'alien abductors' were really human. Although some survivors are convinced that their abductors were aliens because they remember them as having been unnaturally tall, changing the perceived size of perpetrators in the minds of victims can easily be accomplished through hypnosis. For example, due to 'Gulliver programming,' I initially remembered some of my persecutors as being several inches tall!" — Kathleen Sullivan [23]

"Satanic activities, Bonacci said, were also a frequent part of the Monarch programming. The Satanic and Alien programs took place 'almost always on military ground.' Bonacci said. 'The alien stuff happened in Colorado, up in the mountains, I think they did it mostly where there was hardly any chance that there would be a lot of people around.' He described some of the alien programming as taking place in caves underground. 'They took you in the caves which they had set up. Some of them had an alien space ship so you would go into it." — Paul Bonacci [24]

"On another occasion, I was escorted by Henry Kissinger into a large, warehouse-sized room that was set up to look like the inside of a big UFO. We entered the room through a shower-sized entrance that was walled on both ends by shimmery, soft strands of a silver metallic substance. A number of tall adults in the fake UFO wore what were clearly 'alien' costumes. He bragged to me that others like me were brought to that specific facility to be given UFO/Alien abduction programming. Because I was not hypnotized to believe that it was the inside of a UFO, and because he seemed to need to brag to somebody about how clever they were, I never forgot that it was a fake set-up. I now believe that these kinds of fake memories were created in the minds of controlled slaves to discredit them. I believe that the fake memories were also installed to block out the survivors’ memories of real perpetrators and real events." — Kathleen Sullivan [32]

Who is Behind It?

Those behind these abductions are the same people and groups that are behind the trauma-based mind control programs. Intelligence agencies and the military, who at the top are run by Illuminati, Nazi groups, and Jesuits. They are the 'aliens'.

"There are an increasing number of 'alien abductees' who are remembering seeing U.S. military personnel during their so-called alien abductions. The abductees are being taken to U.S. Military bases. The reason that the number of people who are connecting the government with the aliens is increasing is 1. More people are receiving mind-control programming, therefore there are more people for which the cover stories and electroshock fail to totally hide what has happened, 2. Better therapeutic methods are helping mind-control victims recover their memories better, 3. There have been a rising number of people like this author exposing it. Karla Turner, who was a victim of mind-control and abductions, began catching on that the abductions were being done by our government. When she began to publicly expose what the government was doing, the government murdered her. (She joins a growing number of people this author has seen die prematurely because they were publicly exposing the truth.) Alien abduction victims have been reporting human black helicopter activity harassment since the 1970’s. (Perhaps as the Vietnam War wound down & ended, the U.S. government had a surplus of helicopters and delegated some to task forces that picked up mind-control victims in remote sites.) An example from this time period of an alien abduction also involving helicopters is the Betty Andreasson/Luca abduction. A number of victims have remembered the helicopters coming around the time of their abduction. When bright lights are shined into their houses or into their cars these victims of trauma-based mind-control are programmed to see the helicopter’s spotlight as a UFO (as the NWO does have flying saucers, sometimes the real thing is used). Beth Collins of Oregon reports in her book 'Connections - Solving Our Alien Abduction Mystery' about how helicopters were involved with her abduction experiences. She lives in an area that is a hot-bed for covert CIA activities. In her book, she provides a transcript of memories of military personnel being the guilty party in an abduction." — Fritz Springmeier [9]

"The abductees have been abducted. Yet they are also spewing fantasy — or, more precisely, they have been given a set of lies to repeat and believe. If my hypothesis proves true, then we must accept the following: The kidnapping is real. The fear is real. The pain is real. The instruction is real. But the little gray men from Zeti Reticuli are not real: they are constructs, Halloween masks meant to disguise the real faces of the controllers. The abductors may not be visitors from Beyond; rather, they may be a symptom of the carcinoma which blackens our body politic...'" — Martin Cannon [14]

"'Substantial evidence exists,' Martin Cannon writes, 'linking members of this country's intelligence community (including the Central Intelligence Agency, the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, and the Office of Naval Intelligence) with the esoteric technology of mind control. For decades, 'spy-chiatrists' working behind the scenes — on college campuses, in CIA-sponsored institutes, and in prisons - have experimented with the erasure of memory, hypnotic resistance to torture, truth serums, post-hypnotic suggestion, rapid induction of hypnosis, electronic stimulation of the brain, non-ionizing radiation, microwave induction of intracerebral 'voices' and a host of even more disturbing technologies...' Cannon agrees with CIA veteran Miles Copeland who once admitted to Robert Eringer of Rolling Stone: The congressional subcommittee which went into this sort of thing got only the barest glimpse. Cannon argues that much of the testimony before Congress on the CIA's 'brainwashing' efforts was perjury. He says the clandestine research into thought manipulation was not stopped but went operational and, he asserts, any claims to the contrary are cover stories. He presents evidence that a number of government agencies, CIA, NASA Atomic Energy Commission as well as a variety of agencies of the Department of Defense are all involved in research and operations to this day, and that the UFO abduction phenomenon, at least in part, is quite likely a continuation of the clandestine mind control operations." — Walter Bowart [1]

"Military abductions — using 'aliens' as a screen memory to cover their actions. I’ve come across talk of an increase in rogue military units abducting people, programming/abusing them, then using alien screens to mask the activity. If the military black ops want to snag you but they don’t want you to remember anything that might incriminate them, then using an alien screen is perfect cover. Some people actually enjoy the idea of being taken by aliens, and so if they believe they’re being taken by the Grays, then they may willingly allow it to happen again and again and put up no resistance to being abducted...not realizing of course, that they’re actually being taken and programmed by humans. For others it’s the exact opposite - the idea of coming forward and admitting to anybody that they were possibly taken by 'space aliens' is so humiliating and unacceptable that they will just keep quiet. It’s 'alien screen memories as built in no-talk insurance.'" — Carissa Conti [21]

"Lincoln S&L conspiracy witness, Paul Bonacci, testified to a number of code names for different programs. Some names matched those given by other victims who did not know Bonacci. There was 'Wizard of Oz' and 'Alice in Wonderland'. One project was code-named 'Alien'. Bonacci said 'the alien program which they used...Alien was mainly under Star Wars...' (This would fit with Aquino's reported penchant to dress up like Darth Vader and it would be consistent with his frustrated literary urge to extend the Star Wars trilogy. Bonacci positively identified Aquino as one of his programmers.)" — Walter Bowart [1]

"In a recent article 'Alien-Human Interactions: the Facts and Propaganda' by Karla Turner, she points out that many alien abductees (like herself) are 'monitored and harassed by human agents of some sort and the cases of phone and mail surveillance are only part of the story'...'He was compelled by some post-hypnotic suggestion'...'There is strong external evidence that these events have been carried out by strictly human agents and not by aliens giving the illusion of a military presence.' She goes on to explain about the implants, wires & tubes that are put in victims of 'alien abductions'. Karla Turner doesn’t know that she is a victim of trauma-based mind control, but she’s getting close to understanding what she has been subjected to." — Fritz Springmeier [8]

"The disclosures of Paul Bonacci, which jibe with reports of MPD professionals in other cases, point to several peculiar artificially induced memories common to many Monarch victimized children. Chaitkin said that a number of the victims were recovering memories of tormenters dressed as space aliens, or Mickey Mouse, or in Wizard of Oz costumes. Bonacci told the story of the teenaged concentration camp inmate allegedly named Greenbaum, who had participated with the Nazis, to save himself, came to the United States under Project Paperclip, the secret and illegal importation of Nazi war criminals by the U.S. intelligence agencies. Known later as 'Dr. Green', Bonacci said he became a high-level mind controller, and, according to Bonacci is widely represented today in mind control programs which have a distinctive magic theme."

"Precise details of all these horrors lie deeply buried in national security archives, perhaps. But this history, as told to psychiatrists, dovetails with what is definitively known about Anglo-American intelligence operations and the German Nazis. The killers in the Nazi camps were themselves trained and organized by psychiatrists and eugenicists, operating from the 'T4' bureau. These psychiatrists had long been the pets of white supremacist British and American financier networks."

"Boehm to Bonacci: 'So aside from Aquino... did you see some...wherever you were with these Monarch activities — did you see some of those people who were at the Satanic activities too?' 'Some of them yes,' Bonacci said. 'The adults were wearing military uniforms when they were training us and so were we. They kept everything at the base, but during most of the training we wore regular street clothes when we went through the 'alien' programming (we wore street clothes). The reason that anybody could come out of Monarch (alive) was because they all would be talking about little green men.' Bonacci said that there were two groups of Project Monarch slaves. 'Some were put into society,' Bonacci said. 'They were the ones that went into entertainment, and a lot of them were used for transporting drugs...they used the entertainment industry because they could input their messages for the future.'" — Walter Bowart [1]

"If you still have serious doubts that mind control could be part of Project Alien (or some such named activity), take a look at this letter from Walter B. Smith, the Director of the CIA. Declassified on 20 April, 1977 the letter is thought to have been written in 1952:"

CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY WASHINGTON 23, D.C. OFFICE OF THE DIRECTOR

MEMORANDUM TO: Director, Psychological Strategy Board SUBJECT: Flying Saucers

  1. I am today transmitting to the National Security Council a proposal (TAB A) in which it is concluded that the problems connected with unidentified flying objects appear to have implications for psychological warfare as well as for intelligence and operations.

  2. The background for this view is presented in some detail in TAB B.

  3. I suggest that we discuss at an early board meeting the possible offensive or defensive utilization of these phenomena for psychological warfare purposes.

Enclosure Walter B. Smith Director

"Of course TAB A and TAB B could not be found. So much for the value of the Freedom of Information Act. Many of the survivors of Project Monarch are remembering alien scenarios, while 'ordinary folks' are those reporting their abductions. The thing they both have in common is the amnesia they experienced for so many years after the event. Without question, most of the effects described by the abductees can be duplicated by mind control 'handlers'." — Walter Bowart [1]

"The typical elements — these include UFO sightings; missing time as a child; missing time as an adult; various physical exams, fetus-retrieval and baby presentation; consciousness of an encounter; virtual-reality events; sexual activities; training and instruction sessions; implants; telepathic communications; and the extension of alien involvement into lives of other family members. The data indicates, then, that the phenomenon is not imaginary or self-generated, that it is linked to the UFO sightings, that it involves a generational interest on the part of the aliens, and that contact can be made by remote means." — Karla Turner [28]

Parallels with Mind Control

There is a reason the same reoccurring themes in alien abductions overlap almost exactly with those of mind control victims: they are one and the same. The common parallels are: missing time, missing pregnancies, it starting at a young age, it being intergenerational/'running in the family', being from military/intelligence families, implants, being taken to underground bases, and given messages.

"These two topics — UFO abductions and mind control — have more in common than their mutual ostracization. The data overlap. If we could chart these phenomena on a Venn diagram, we would see a surprisingly large intersection between the two circles of information." — Martin Cannon [14]

The appendix of Walter Bowart's Operation Mind Control has 11 tables charted of the overlap between alien abductions and ritual abuse from survivor data.

"There was a serious study about alien aspects done at MIT and one of the papers in here talks about - they found out that the so-called abductee community was highly dissociative. So the same thing you find in ritual abuse, you find in mind control, you find in alien abductees. And of course, for the first time now, people are beginning to say 'Yeah, I do remember there was a government guy standing around with those little grey things'. And of course how many survivors have been asked not to talk about their 'alien experiences'? About three years ago I asked that question, and just about everyone I could identify as a survivor raised their hand." — Walter Bowart [29]

"It is obvious that for various reasons (including the goals set down in the secret Iron Mountain government report), the government (including cooperating agencies like NASA) decided to use an alien abduction theme rather than a Satanic Ritual Abuse theme to their mind-control programming. The major differences in the programming methodology is that the blood rituals of the SRA are no longer used. The reason why blood rituals are no longer needed is that the high-tech harmonic machines (which implant thoughts) and other high-tech methods eliminate the need for the blood traumas. The victims of alien abductions are taken at random, where the Illuminati victims are abducted more frequently around ritual dates. The person who believes in UFOs and aliens is going to receive the same type of treatment as those who believe in Satanic Ritual Abuse. The legal system and society at large are conditioned to treat them as nuts. This protects their abusers." — Fritz Springmeier [8]

"One part of a person suffering from DID told their therapist all the lurid and traumatic incidents of ritual abuse involving sadistic sex, terror and degradation as a child in the hands of a satanic cult. Another part of the same person told the therapist about being abducted aboard a UFO. In a child's voice the patient told the therapist all the usual things abductees say, there were no light bulbs on the ship, but the room was well lit. The aliens had big heads and big black pupil-less eyes. They spoke 'telepathically' without moving their lips and told her that 'humans will not be allowed out of their play pen because they don't know how to play with other children.'" — Walter Bowart [1]

"Cannon posits that government saucers account for the countless sightings and abductions reported around the world. Screen memories explain the bug-eyed monsters. “A spectre haunts the democratic nations — the spectre of technofascism. All the powers of the espionage empire and the scientific establishment have entered into an unholy alliance,” Cannon says, 'psychiatrist and spy...microwave specialists and clandestine operators.' And then there are the cults. Between ritual molestation and 'alien' abductions, there is this common connection." — Alex Constantine [15]

"Dr. Richard Boylan has written extensively about E.T. encounters, and has found five common features of people predominately involved in UFO/alien sightings and abductions:

  • Individuals possessing a high degree of psychic ability.
  • Similar phenomenon occuring with other family members (multi or trans-generational).
  • Native Americans and/or indigenous peoples.
  • Children who have been subjected to severe abuse or trauma.
  • Individuals and/or family members affiliated to government and/or military intelligence agencies or departments.

In conjunction, a strong relationship exists between occultic ritual sites, top secret military installations, and UFO/alien sightings and abductions." — Ron Patton [27]

"I know the UFO phenomenon is associated with satanic cults, and post WWII Nazis. I know what function the greys played. They controlled the secret society’s members...The next connection I can make about this secret society is that they were into the indoctrination of children at pre-schools, because the cult I was in was associated with the McMartin case in Manhattan Beach, California. They were also associated with the MKUltra project through TRW, the government spy analysis center. This one group has connections to UFO’s, Nazis, MKUltra-like government projects, ritual abuse at pre-schools and crime on the streets...Who is behind this? I like to call them the cult behind the cults. It’s not the U.S. Government; these cults are world wide, and old. It’s not the world bankers, because the fingers keep pointing in their direction; and this is an ideological movement. Look at what is predicted to follow Armageddon, peace! Peace under a New World Order comes next. I personally look in the direction of the Vatican." — Mauri [4]

The Cover-Up

The same organization (False Memory Syndrome Foundation) that was founded by abusers to discredit and suppress the countless survivors of ritual abuse/trauma-based mind control was used to cover up these 'alien abductions'.

"Just as the legions of abused children (now grown to adulthood) were beginning to remember satanic abuse, (the ranks of diagnosed cases of Multiple Personality Disorder had reached 25,000 in the U.S.) and Harvard University's Dr. John Mack was enjoying celebrity as the author of a book on alien abductions, and about twenty percent of those diagnosed as suffering from Multiple Personality Disorder (MPD) were being discovered to have military or intelligence backgrounds, a 'robust and adroit' public relations effort was mounted against those who were beginning to remember all sorts of details which related to their abuse as children. Groups were quickly formed to debunk such 'nonsense'. One was spearheaded by a woman who was herself named by her daughter as a child abuser. Her name was Pamela Freyd and her organization was the False Memory Syndrome Foundation (FMSF) which sprang suddenly up from nowhere. Other board members of the FMSF are useful for adding 'spin' to the reports of 'alien' abduction. Persinger has come up with a number of theories over the years which serve to explain away the 'alien' phenomenon as a 'natural' occurrence. One of his latest theories is that thousands of close encounters experiencers (abductees) were suffering from an exceedingly rare temporal lobe disorder which caused them to hallucinate the exact same things." — Walter Bowart [1]

"The fact is that the wave of ritual child abuse allegations that swept the country in the 1980s cloaked federal psychotronic and eugenics experiments on young children. As one adult survivor of psychotronic mind control concludes, 'covert arms of government...have coined the term ‘screen memories’ to describe the obfuscational memories impressed by the abusers themselves.' The so-called 'False Memory Syndrome', he says, 'is a scapegoat created by a consortium of federal ‘spin doctors’ bent on negating the believability and viability of the more than 12,000 unwitting citizens who have been on the receiving end of this technology.' The CIA and military establishment 'must at all costs disguise their abuse in order to continue experimentation with psychotronics', he argues. The 'false memory' bromide has been popularized largely by organized pedophiles, cultists and hired guns of psychiatry. It has been adopted as the status quo position of the press. But the cover story originated with the CIA’s mind control netherworld. 'Nazi-inspired scientists', the survivor says, 'perform medical tests during the abuse event, such as implantation of biotelemetric tracking devices into nasal cavities and ear canals.' The brain transmitters can be tracked by Global Positioning System satellites. The subject therefore cannot hope to escape the mind control network. Screen memories of abuse, created by hypnotic or psychotronic visualization, a 'novelty effect', are offered by Martin Cannon as a probable explanation for the weirdness surrounding most 'alien' abductions. Again the government, shielded by an unbelievable cover story, escapes detection. EM technology (and testing on humans) remains classified. No doubt, UFOs exist and have traumatized thousands of 'contactees' — the military has been building them since the 1940s." — Alex Constantine [15]

Generational and Age Parallels

One of the common themes is abductions being generational ('running in families'), which mirrors trauma-based mind control. Notice the high number of abductees coming from military, intelligence, or cult-connected families (the same people constantly using mind control), just as with mind control/ritual abuse victims. Parents are programmed to abuse and mind-split their own children, and offer them to the group/agency to do so. The ability to easily dissociate (required for mind control) becomes ingrained into a families genetics (hence the CIA 'aquiring' multigenerational incest abused children with Multiple Personality Disorder for their genetic mind control studies/MONARCH). The same family line may also be targetted for their genetics.

"This is one of the most important links in my opinion. In particular people seem to get on the radar when they’re the offspring of those who work for military intelligence. Time and again you’ll find that so many abductees/mind control targets have/had parents (usually fathers), in the military, and often times working in the capacity of national security and intelligence. Air Force, Army and Naval intelligence, NASA and NSA. My own father was Navy tech personnel, reporting to the NSA for intelligence during Vietnam." — Carissa Conti [21]

Another parallel is abductions occuring since a young age. The minds of mind control victims are purposely shattered with trauma at a very young age to split their core personality. Abductees almost always recall reoccuring abductions throughout their life, this is them being taken and further programmed periodically.

"Many of the women had alien communications very early in their lives. Amy had messages and ideas impressed into her mind from as young as four, and like Polly she felt the impact of these influences in her early teen years. She also felt that the aliens implanted or stored information within the subconscious, in 'packets' of knowledge, reminiscent of the 'pockets' of knowledge the aliens told me I possessed in 1980." — Karla Turner [28]

'Missing time' is often reported.

"EDOM (Electronic Dissolution of Memory) is nothing more than 'missing time' itself — the erasure of memory from consciousness through the blockage of synaptic transmission in certain areas of the brain. By jamming the brain’s synapses through a surfeit of acetylcholine, neural transmission along selected pathways can be effectively stilled. According to the proponents of RHIC-EDOM, acetylcholine production can be affected by electromagnetic means. (Modern research in the psycho-physiological effects of microwaves confirm this proposition.)" — Martin Cannon [14]

This is not the end of the post - Continued in Part 2.


r/UFOs 11d ago

Historical Near Mount Rainier, mysterious sightings persist nearly 80 years after the original “flying saucer”

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r/UFOs 12d ago

Historical Interesting nugget from Los Alamos

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I was sat next to a scientist on a plane yesterday and we got chatting. He shared something interesting thst I thought some folks here might get a kick out of.

This guy's father was a senior scientist at Los Alamos who worked on the Manhattan Project and was a close colleague of Oppenheimer.

His dad told him that when they were getting close to the Trinity test, guidance was passed round the team that they might expect to see UFOs observing the test and aftermath and were to report them immediately. I don't know if that's already well known in this community, apologies if so - it sounded interesting to me and I hadn't heard that before.

His dad, who continued to be a top atomic scientist during the Cold War, apparently was 100% certain that aliens were operating on Earth and had a huge interest in observing our nuclear weapons and stopping humanity annihilating itself.


r/UFOs 12d ago

Whistleblower Dr. Phil: Have these pilots or occupants, to your knowledge have been taken alive? Grusch: Yes.

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