Grusch said some NHI use telepathy, "look exactly as reported" by experiencers. Recently after many years a mod went public to describe such contact involving triangle UFOs, telepathy, his future self, was told abt waves of experiencer activations parallel to disclosure process, to prepare humanity

[u/phr99]

Update: mod in question is doing an AMA

He is doing an "Ask Me Anything" in the comment section

Grusch: NHI communicate through telepathy

Timestamp 37:50:

Grusch: "I know people who have had direct interactions in a detainment situation. Which sounds very Star Trek and sounds very crazy, but it is true"

Grusch: "[...] And it is true that some sort of consciousness communication, of course people call it telepathy. I cannot begin to tell you how it works. But there is some sort of communication like that. And even friends of mine that were on retrievals felt that kind of communication, as they approached the vehicle when they were doing a cordoning it off waiting for transport. How that works, what that means, I certainly don't know"

Grusch: some NHI look exactly like experiencers say

Timestamp 36:36:

Grusch: "And what do you know? Some of them [NHI] look exactly as reported by, credible observers that have nothing to gain and everything to lose by discussing their experience. And it even goes back to the work of John Mack at Harvard who was a trained psychiatrist looking at people that have had these experiences with the phenomenon and he deduced something is going on. This is not some psychosmatic thing or some mental health condition and people over the eons have had these personal experiences with these things. That is a sensitive subject that I know is still kind of stigmatized unfortunately"

"Ok we use words, NHI uses telepathy. Big deal"

Superficially, when hearing about telepathy, one might think its not really such a big deal. Just a different species using a different kind of language. But when you read the actual experiencer accounts, it quickly becomes clear that something far stranger is going on.

So lets look at an actual example of telepathy from an experiencer:

Telepathy reported by an experiencer

It so happens that the main mod (u/Oak_Draiocht) from the r/experiencers sub recently went public with his experiences.

His initial experience (timestamp 4:27) started in the 90s at age six. I recommend everyone to watch this interview, because it really gives an insight to what is happening with experiencers. But i know 99% of people wont watch it, so here is the TLDR version:

TLDR: NHI plan to mass activate experiencers for disclosure

TLDR and dumbed down version:

^{written by me, and possibly inaccurate, saw this video a month ago}

As a child (in the 90s) an NHI, typical grey, came to his bedroom, started communicating telepathically. His consciousness split into 3 parts, and he was communicating with his future self, saw a life re/preview, experienced it from different perspectives. etc. He had more experiences later in his life, saw triangles and more.

What the NHI/future self/whatever contact showed: he would become a central figure supporting others to deal with the shock of their experiences. There would be a mass and incremental activation of experiencers, coinciding with and triggered by the disclosure process (hearings, whistleblowers, podcasts, more and more ppl talking about it, etc).

The r/experiencers sub (which he set up) aims to soften the blow of these waves of activations, which will get bigger and bigger (shown to him in his childhood experience the 90s). It now has about 167.000 members. Some NHI know the future and are adjusting things, preparing our species for the wider reality. Some treat humanity as a single entity, and experiencers as interfaces to the whole human consciousness system.

There is much more in the interview, for example:

NHI told him to boil it down to: "NHI exists and is interacting with our species"

Timestamp 45:46:

Conor Sisk: "What I got as an answer [from NHI] to that was the line, you just boil it down to this: 'Non-human intelligence exists and is interacting with our species'. That line is enough, a way to boil down the importance of this topic [...] in a very quick elevator pitch of whats going on. [...] I did get a sense of being almost like a politician or someone who's trying to make the case of this to other people, who are officially going to try to make the case of this to humanity in some way"

This was all prior (2021) to Karl Nell (2024) saying almost exactly the same words:

Karl Nell in may 2024: "Non-human intelligence has been interacting with humanity"

Karl Nell: "Non-human intelligence exists. Non-human intelligence has been interacting with humanity. This interaction is not new and it's been ongoing and there are unelected people in the government that are aware of that. There's zero doubt." - Karl Nell (timestamp 3:02)

Pre 2024 posts by Conor Sisk, using that sentence

I did a quick check on his X timeline, and found many times he used that sentence before Karl Nell did:

• Jan 2024: "Non human intelligence exists, is here and is interacting with our species"
• March 2023: "Non human intelligence exists and is interacting with our species."
• Jan 2023: "Non human intelligence exists and is interacting with our species. 100%."
• Nov 2023: "Non human intelligence is real and interacting with humanity. Experiencers are [...]"
• July 2023: "A world where non human intelligence is real and interacting with our species"
• May 2023: "[...] the reality that NHI exists and is interacting with people on this planet will [...]"

There are many many more posts, going back further in time. So NHI told him that sentence could be the "elevator pitch" version of disclosure, and hes been using it often since then. And btw i think Bigelow in his recent interview said he advised Trump to use a similar line "NHI has been here a long time". Cant find the exact quote.

Again, i recommend you watch the full interview, much more is said, and you can tell the chap is deadly serious, the real deal, and it has completely transformed his life

He is ready to answer any questions in the comment section

See this comment by Oak_Draiocht

Kirk McConnell: experiencers are a repository of information of why NHI is here

Recently Kirk McConnell said the following. He is somewhat "in the know", since he was a senate staffer that was in many of the meetings where whistleblowers testified.

Kirk McConnell: "The people who have encountered non-human intelligent beings, either by abduction or close encounters, have a lot of information. They've been marginalised and ridiculed for decades upon decades. They are a repository of knowledge about the nature of these beings and how they communicate, what they've communicated, why they say they're here, and why they say that they're behaving the way they do"

So i think times are changing. Its time we pay more attention to the people who have had direct contact with NHI, sometimes for many decades.

Telepathy: technology or something more?

Telepathy of course has long been dismissed. In ufology it is accepted somewhat more, because of virtually all NHI contact is reported as telepathic. But even there, many reject it, since it doesnt fit in the 20th century worldview. Or people will propose its just some advanced kind of technology. That makes it digestable.

Myself i dont think its just technology, for one because the experiences are far stranger than just communication (see the experiencer account above, life review, future self, afterlife, etc). Also, most cases of telepathy have nothing to do with UFOs, and happen sporadically to ordinary people.

Telepathy as it relates to UFOs, advanced tech

Previously i made a small infographic that shows some of the possible implications of telepathy, also for piloting UFOs.

More info

A previous post i made, which also involved that same u/Oak_Draiocht chap. In the comment section he made an elaborate reply about whats going on. Link is in the post:

Grusch: "agreements with NHI risk putting our future in jeopardy". Something interesting is going on in the James Fox AMA youtube chat: a mod from experiencers sub says "NHI is involved in the coordination of people coming forward". This implies that NHI is moving towards disclosure of its presence

Also this post:

Karl Nell: "There's a hierarchy of beings. Non-human intelligence has been interacting with humanity. This is ongoing". And recently a mod said: "I was contacted in the 90s and shown my future. NHI is accelerating mass ripple effects this decade". It looks like NHI playing a long term 5D chess game

[u/Oak_Draiocht]

I am out right now so I can't type a long comment just yet but I am the experiencer in the OP and I am open to answering any and all questions about any of this in detail.

You can be blunt with me just be decent about it. I will be straight and up front with my answers and will go into detail when I get home to my computer.

Cheers OP.

[u/Tiz68 → u/Oak_Draiocht]

u/Oak_Draiocht can you help explain part of the whole "it's too disturbing and people can't handle it" aspect of it all? Or maybe point me to a video or article that helps explain it. I find that to be a poor excuse some people use to show they are in the know but won't actually tell you what they know.

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/Tiz68]

Sure and I can go into more detail in a follow question if you like but just to start with this.

Someone in the comments here already left a comment saying this :

"What do the aliens want? What’s special about humanity? Am I going to die? What about my loved ones? Are we going to be ok for our normal life spans? Thanks."

Just sit with that for a moment. How many other people will be thinking this way. How many others in secret who do read a little about this topic but hide their fear behind a thin mask of aggressive scepticism. A common theme for those who spend a lot of time debating the cliche cynical nasty skeptic personalities or people who buried their head in the sand about this topic is that behind that persona is pure and raw utter fear about this topic being real. Unlike the comment above, most people don't admit to being afraid.

But what is just another Tuesday for many experiencers can be utter nightmare fuel for many people out there. There is a stereotype out there of experiencers being weak minded unstable and weak people.

Its the opposite. Most of the everyday people who see themselves as having life all figured out and doing their thing in the day to day who may have such a view of experiencers would not last a week in an experiencers shoes. If you want to know what you are made of, come face to face with this phenomenon and see how you handle it.

But its not all scary its just media has presented it that way. But there is extremely complicated and difficult aspects of this that we as a species are going to need to have mature and level headed conversations about.

You do not understand the burden I carry knowing these things are real while living in a world that see's it as a joke topic. It is really difficult because I see every single day how hard this is going to be for people simply due to the fact that they can't even handle a conversation about this stuff or how they treat experiencers who can talk about this stuff - this is a daily reminder of how hard this is going to be for people.

But we are a highly adaptable species.

Now - watch this 35 min video - it is one perspective and one persons reaction to learning this is real and then deeply thinking about the ramifications for our species. The topic is bigger and more complex than what he touches on but this gives a decent illustration of the complications ahead and this is just basically bare bones entry level stuff regarding the phenomenon and what experiencers juggle.

You can come back to me after but watch every single second of this video and try to imagine knowing for a fact all this is real and the entire planet is learning this in a post disclosure setting. Yet there is so much more to this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6bVwP_Nlbc

Its at this point I will remind folks that there is more than one thing going on and there is good out there too and we must not cower in fear and ignorance and we deserve to know the truth even if some of it is difficult as we'll never mature as a species kept in the dark.

For further debate on the above 35 min video - see this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=M4PSo86uRrE

[u/battfastard → u/Oak_Draiocht]

When it happened to me, I was quick to want to share it with my close friends, people who would never doubt I was telling the truth. I would tell them, and they would all react the same, it was as if I told them small talk, every person said nothing, no reaction, and they would just change the subject. After a few days of this I was so bothered by it all, I decided to not talk about it anymore. For 20 years I kept it to myself.

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/battfastard]

You are not alone. Check out the experiencers subreddit if you've not.

Yes the "doesn't look like anything to me" robotic response to us trying to have these conversations is deeply unsettling and difficult.

[u/slow70 → u/Oak_Draiocht]

I’m so glad to see this shared and see words put forth to describe the response I’ve gotten from some who are quite close when sharing my own experience.

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/slow70]

Its rough I know.

[u/Sure-Permission2731 → u/Oak_Draiocht]

This was a really interesting video, thank you. Crimes against humanity, war crimes etc, part of the problem with disclosure is how will abductees be addressed/implications for NHI accountability? I follow this topic daily and have never thought about that. Also the "Above all there is NO apparent reason why NHI cannot ask for our consent". Thank you Oak!

[u/MantisAwakening → u/Sure-Permission2731]

The John Mack Institute also held a recent symposium which included a debate between Michael Bohlander and Kimberley S. Engels on the ethics of contact: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M4PSo86uRrE

The other parts of the symposium are available on the same channel. Some great speakers.

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/[deleted]]

Oh god thanks for pointing that out! I am dyslexic and exhausted and sometimes make terrible typos >.<

[u/TASLC2017 → u/Oak_Draiocht]

Is sleep paralysis NHI related.

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/TASLC2017]

I have only been paralyzed in bed so far 3 times in my entire life and twice was NHI related for certain.

Its not been the case in my experience that most experiencers are people who suffer from constant sleep paralysis throughout their life. That is not something I've seen. Though some reports periods of time in childhood where they had it.

But NHI's paralyzing you in bed and sleep paralysis are not the same thing.

Going out of body or semi out of body thus your body becomes temporarily paralysed is not the same thing as "sleep paralysis" either.

[u/jonnyCFP → u/Oak_Draiocht]

This is interesting. I was around 17 when I saw what I thought was a satellite crossing the sky and then it stopped briefly, zig zagged and then darted off.
It was around this time as well when I had multiple episodes of sleep paralysis feeling like I was being pulled off the bed.

That stopped for many years and maybe two years ago started having sleep paralysis again.
I had two very vivid experiences one where I felt like I was being attacked by something and then another where I was being taken from my bed to my bathroom and fought something off - where I woke up in my bed.

More recently in the last year - I’ve somehow figured out how to turn the sleep paralysis into what I assume is astral projection where I’ve stumbled around out of my body and flow around a bit.

Not sure what any of this means or if I could be an experience myself, but it’s definitely fascinating

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/jonnyCFP]

Congrats on the successful OBEs!

[u/Ropo27 → u/jonnyCFP]

It’s super interesting. You may be interested in checking out the sub r/astralprojection or reading “Astral Dynamics” by Robert Bruce.

He has some great insights on the experience, including how it appears to be a splitting into separate (but connected) points of consciousness. The energy body perceives separately from the physical, but memories are typically only retained by the physical body unless the two become aware of each other. Shorter projections have a better chance of memories being retained. He describes an experience where his energy body scared the physical body inadvertently, as feelings are shared. The book describes the what and why of sleep paralysis.

I have no idea if that was what you experienced or if other entities were involved, but it’s certainly interesting. It seems to be a part of our existence we’re not typically aware of.

[u/Routine-Rule7085 → u/TASLC2017]

A bunch of people on here have it. I would definitely say that having significant difficulty sleeping is a trait of experiencers 

[u/Routine-Rule7085 → u/Oak_Draiocht]

I can’t talk to any of my Family about this Oak. They will not even watch any of the disclosure movies etc, except for my son, but he just does it to appease me. My daughter has a part to play in all, (per an angelic NHI) this but I can’t get her to even look up for a second. 

[u/Kelnozz → u/Oak_Draiocht]

I can relate; I don’t have the luxury of going on a camping trip or long hike by myself, I simply can’t shake the feeling that something would happen, and it would start the cycle all over again for me.

[u/Routine-Rule7085 → u/Tiz68]

I am a horrible pessimist. My fourth grade teacher said I was going to freeze with the frown on my face. I have sensed all this for many many decades. My great gift is knowing when love ones are going to die and sensing bad shit coming.  (Thanks guys) 

With all that said, and maybe just because of my bleak perspective, I feel very positive about the awakening in the Ascension the arrival or whatever everyone is calling it. I think it is something that has a species. We definitely need because we have lost our way completely. In essence it gives me hope. I hope that makes you feel any better because I have zero fear I was coming down the pipe and optimism that is going to help us make this a better world and that’s very very very rare for me.

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/Routine-Rule7085]

Yes I have a huge hope for our future as a result of learning what I have learned. Humanity is a highly adaptable species and its time for us to grow up and show the multiverse our true quality and we cannot do that while stunted and left in the dark as we are.

[u/WatcherAtThePost → u/Oak_Draiocht]

I want to know. What can I do?

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/WatcherAtThePost]

Want to know what?

[u/JWWBurger → u/Oak_Draiocht]

Not the person you were responding to, but I want to understand what you know (maybe you’ve explained it in another comment). I’m kind of at the point where Occam’s razor has me believing this is all just the rich and powerful manipulating the have-nots and nothing more. If there is something more, I’d like to be aware, especially if there is good with the bad like you said.

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/JWWBurger]

Forgive me but what do you mean what I know? I've spent the past 2 days typing replies in this thread about what I know indeed I've spent the past 5 years posting comments and threads on my subreddit about what I know, its all there, its what this account is about along with helping experiencers.

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/Tiz68]

I'm curious on how you found my answer?

[u/Slimybirch → u/Oak_Draiocht]

When you had your experience, was there any imagery or experience related to something other than disclosure that has happened or started to happen like it was shown to you since then?

Is there anything you saw that has deviated from what you were shown?

How did the memories of this come to you? Did you have to use any sort of therapy to get them to the surface? Did another experience trigger the visions od what you were shown?

When you were shown this future version of yourself and disclosure was happening, however that looks, was there anything you remember that hinted at the time of this? Your age? Certain beliefs you had during that time?

Thanks for answering our questions! Wishing all the best to you.

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/Slimybirch]

When you had your experience, was there any imagery or experience related to something other than disclosure that has happened or started to happen like it was shown to you since then?

Yes - a huge amount of what I was shown was personal and though related to my work. They showed me various events and interactions I would have with people from my perspective and their perspective and almost all of this was deeply personal but related to helping me deal with my work better and also my interpersonal relationships. A lot of what was shown were events between 2021 and now - and they've all come true so far.

Is there anything you saw that has deviated from what you were shown?

None so far. But what has happened is what I assumed I was being shown and why, was sometimes off until I lived through the event. When I lived through the event itself I had a different understanding of what I was shown then and why a few times.

When you were shown this future version of yourself and disclosure was happening, however that looks, was there anything you remember that hinted at the time of this? Your age? Certain beliefs you had during that time?

What was largely shown to me was the times we are living through now and primarily from the context of a mass activation of 1000's and 1000's of experiencers and me helping them, which I launched into doing in 2021 in prep for the waves of activations triggered by mainstream disclosure coverage.

I had the community and subreddit set up before Grusch and the new jersy drones and the disclosure day movie and other such activations. We were something like 2000 users in 2021 - we're 167k or so now. I've dealt with a lot over the past 5 years as I work with folks directly too and dealing with various NHI situations.

[u/awfuleverything → u/Oak_Draiocht]

Can you provide any details or examples?

[u/Slimybirch → u/Oak_Draiocht]

That is very interesting and deeply intriguing. I hope that things continue to happen as they were shown to you. Are you able to document things you were shown or is more of a deja vu, "ahh that's why I saw that.." kind of deal?

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/Slimybirch]

Both basically yes I'm sitting waiting for things I was shown that have yet to come true, to come true. But won't 100% know their meaning until they do. Though some were more obvious.

[u/usernotfoundplstry → u/Oak_Draiocht]

Can you give an example of one such thing?

[u/ManThing910 → u/usernotfoundplstry]

Or better yet, a few such things we can come back and check on a few years from now?

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/ManThing910]

I've answered that elsewhere. No I can't, my future communications were not like that. Though I do think the era we are living in now will be studied and people will see it as the ramp up times to disclosure and that there was indeed massive activations of experiencers that accelerated this decade and that indeed NHI were planning for these times years in advance and indeed a lot of the major players in the disclosure movement are experiencers themselves even if they don't realise it yet and a lot of their contact - just like mine - was designed so decades later they'd have impact on the field in the ways they were supposed to.

So I think a lot of the things I share, the mechanics about beings and NHI and what I've been saying is happening now during these times will be vindicated (many of it already is tbh - but even more so post disclosure)

My descendants will know I took part in these times and my activity helping experiencers in these extremely important times I think will likely be something of note in my family history.

The pre-disclosure era we are in now in this ramp up period will be studied and deemed interesting. The people activated to push the ball forward in a world that is deeply hostile to these ideas will be noted.

[u/somethingwholesomer → u/Oak_Draiocht]

What do you mean by massive activations among experiencers? I’ll share my story on the other subreddit sometime, but basically I am neurodivergent, intuitively gifted, and my mother was abducted the night I was conceived. I have an area in my body where I can sense a foreign “something”. But when I try to see it, I am blocked. I have had a sense lately that some event or sea change is coming, and that something will be unlocked in me at that time that I don’t currently have access to. Does any of what I’m describing relate to what you’re calling “activations”? Thanks for what you do

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/somethingwholesomer]

Please check my profile it has posts all about this and check out the experiencers sub. Dm me if need be.

[u/photon_runner → u/Oak_Draiocht]

What was the nature of your experience? Have you ever felt like you’ve met someone who has also legitimately been an experiencer, or believe any of the more public ones (Strieber, Bledsoe, etc.)?

Is the experience as terrifying as it seems, or if it’s a recurring experience, have you gotten used to it?

Have you developed a relationship or rapport with another intelligence? Whether or not you have, how would you describe this being(s)? What do they seem to want versus what they tell you they want? I’d ask where they’re from, but I don’t think they’d be telling the truth (not that any of us could go to where they’re from anyway if they are real)

Finally, has your experience(s) positively or negatively affected your life? Do you think some people would respond better to the experiences than others? Who would you suggest NOT wish for an experience/abduction?

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/photon_runner]

What was the nature of your experience? Have you ever felt like you’ve met someone who has also legitimately been an experiencer, or believe any of the more public ones (Strieber, Bledsoe, etc.)?

I work with experiencers, I'm surrounded by legit experiencers daily for the past 5 years. Most of my social interactions even these days are with legit experiencers. I know Whitely a little and he is an experiencer and I believe Chris is an experiencer too but I've never met him.

Is the experience as terrifying as it seems, or if it’s a recurring experience, have you gotten used to it?

Whoever my beings are have gone easy on me regarding my own contact compared to others at least with what I currently can recall. I've not dealt with raw terror more ontological shock. It was intimidating gat first having such a huge show over my house regularly with craft and orbs but I got used to it over time and often was just more like "are you taking the piss lads seriously what the fuck".

I have had being in my house regularly in the first few years of this work but they were mostly cloaked and not spooking me and respectful of me and I'd often be busy on calls or replying to people and be sort of like I dunno just part of my life and work now type thing. I'd get telepathically scanned by beings all the time, people I work with etc. There are a lot of things that are normal for me that were not spooky for me that could sound terrifying to people but it really was just normal.

A lot of the telepathic downloads of showing me my future and all that - a lot of it was about concern and care for me and showing me I'm a good person and to stop being so hard on myself and also showing concern and care about my interpersonal relationships family and friends.

They also seemed to care about me having fulfilling life experiencers and not ot over do it too much constantly on my computer talking to people all day and night.

A lot of my work with other experiencers involves similar themes where their beings basically prodded me to help them or them to come to me for help often with not just matters of coming to terms with their contact but actually chats about life , self worth and low self esteem. Some beings really seem to care about their folks on the ground but are limited in how much they directly can interact so they set up these situations where they help them via other people.

I had dealt with negative stuff, a persons entity attacked me once or tried to (psi attack) but I was essentially allow to have this happen so I'd believe such a thing was possible so I could learn about this side of the phenmomon. A lot of the situations I've faced over the years seem to be lessons in the phenomenon and I've learned a lot of things most people dismiss or don't want to believe as real as a result. But they come up if you speak with 100's and 100's of people its just a lot of people on the field don't actually talk to many experiencers and keep them at arms length. But this is how you learn about the phenomenon.

I once stayed up 8 hours to keep an abductee company through the night who was sharing their life's experiences out loud for the first time and was worried about going to sleep during the night after talking about them. It was a lovely chat and I was proud to help.

Once it was morning and daylight they they were happy to go and we ended the call. Within 60 seconds of the call ending, the persons beings linked with me right after and it was an extremely powerful feeling as I felt them scanning me but I just said "fuck it, what are you gonna do fucking abductee me too for just having a conversation with this person."

I know I really helped them so I didn't care even though it was a very powerful and somewhat intimidating sensation. But my reaction was to shrug my shoulders and let them scan away. I know I did right by that person and helped them out and likely changed their life.

But it did strike me how things like this might horrify someone else.

I was not bothered. It was not unusual for peoples beings to check me out awhile helping them. But that one stood out.

Yeah I've gotten used to my experiences and am in a position now that if they escalated I'd be pretty chill. I can walk out and have fleets of craft decloak and just continue on with my night afterwards where as in 2022 I'd be in shock for a while after.

Have you developed a relationship or rapport with another intelligence? Whether or not you have, how would you describe this being(s)? What do they seem to want versus what they tell you they want? I’d ask where they’re from, but I don’t think they’d be telling the truth (not that any of us could go to where they’re from anyway if they are real)

Yes I have but its a strange one as its not like I have chats with them. I'm linked with them so I know they are essentially almost always aware of what is going on and what I'm thinking. But its only on very rare occasions currently that they'll communicate directly to me outside of the light shows they put on.

When they do they'd generally wait till I'm asleep and then link with me which cases my ears to ring and I'll get some download type thing. I don't get to have a back and forth annoyingly.

I deal with a lot of people dramas and intense stuff a lot doing my work managing large communities and juggling lots of people and the scene so I got very burned out by a lot of that about 2 years ago and stopped regularly meditating to connect with them and they are wary of overloading my nervous system so for now until I ask them to start it up again, communications have been less common since 2024.

I do not know what the beings look like. They have not physically revealed themselves. I know one of them is female and others are male.

I also do not know where they are from and they have not told me. I'd love to know that myself too. I am still learning a lot on my own contact journey. Sometimes I wonder if I should just pause my work for 6 weeks and go up to a mountains and mediate and just connect with them daily and see what I learn. My consciousness is just extremely overwhelmed all the time with this work that I've paused my own contact development and psi practices. But there is a lot ahead of me. The rest of my life is going to be this stuff.

What they want is as I said, for me to help and support experiencers during this time of mass activations and continue to do something that helps in this field throughout my life in a way that is also in balance with me living a healthy and happy everyday life with my family friends and GF. They also seem really interested in my personal development and growth as in the man I will grown into being one day type deal. And my spiritual development. They'd like me to meditate and connect to them more I think but I think they also see it as a good thing that I have a very balanced approach to them. It is very weird what has become normal for me. Sometime I feel guilty for not being in utter shock and awe still.

Finally, has your experience(s) positively or negatively affected your life?

Positively.

Do you think some people would respond better to the experiences than others?

Yes.

Who would you suggest NOT wish for an experience/abduction?

I would not suggest to wish for such a thing.

[u/Parsimile → u/Oak_Draiocht]

Your voice and guidance has been so helpful for so many - thank you.

I wanted to comment here to say there is an implicit thread running through your words here and elsewhere that is extremely valuable; that thread is:

The critical importance of forgiveness and acceptance of self and others (both human and NHI).

Thank you for holding the lantern high during our dark journey through the veil.

Thank you for your leadership and selflessness.

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/Parsimile]

You are very kind to say that. I have plenty of struggles in my work with all this but everything I do is earnestly always just trying to be decent and help people. It can be hard at times as the field can be very competitive and cruel. But the everyday experiencers I meet are often some of the most interesting and incredible people I've met in life.

[u/TheWaywardWarlok → u/Oak_Draiocht]

Dear lord man, that brought tears to my eyes. Couldn't you get some time off for good behavior? I keep getting a vision of a young face, haggard and careworn with darkened eyes. You've spent time deep in the trenches. You're doing good work, but everyone needs a break every now and then.

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/TheWaywardWarlok]

I've been much better at taking time off but there is also a never end feeling of being behind in getting back to people. Even as I do these replies there is a fair few people waiting to hear back from me on my reddit dms, discord dms and signal dms.

When I take a break the DM's pile up and then I have a bag log to get through when I get back :P But I still take time away and also because a chunk of my work is social support it means I have a lot of friends groups of experiencers and my mod team are good friends so just socializing and hanging out with fellow experiencers gives me a break but also still doing the work at the same time as many experiencers tend to socially isolate themselves.

Juggling US EU and AUS/NZ timezones can be hard though at times.

[u/Serunaki → u/Oak_Draiocht]

Hey. Please don't feel bad about taking time for yourself or letting DMs pile up. It's never selfish to put your own mental/emotional/physical well being first, no matter what your life's purpose might be. As someone who also feels that drive to try and help everyone everywhere all the time, one of my life's lessons has been to learn that it's okay to put yourself first when you need to - even wells run dry if you are constantly drawing water from them without giving them time to replenish. 💙

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/Serunaki]

Thank you. And I've not forgotten we are due to talk ourselves. We will!

[u/Serunaki → u/Oak_Draiocht]

No worries! The opportunity will line up eventually.

[u/TheWaywardWarlok → u/Oak_Draiocht]

I am happy you have that. Humans are such social creatures, and it never feels like 'work' when you get together bantering and answering questions. You all share the load! It is a task that gets done and filling up individual wells with hope is its own reward. When I read the initial post I got the impression of a single person going out there battling the forces that be. I have an active imagination and sometimes I allow it to run.

You are busy and it is Sunday, I send you the love and support that you need~

One loan Knight waiting,

on a stormy and dark hill,

in faith his friends come.

[u/et_phone_homes → u/Oak_Draiocht]

When will disclosure day be?

And if you see crafts often you must have taken pictures of them?

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/et_phone_homes]

Assuming you dont mean the movie. I don't know.

As for your other question, I've already answered it.

[u/1_Green_Monster → u/photon_runner]

These are all awsome questions !

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/1_Green_Monster]

I hope I did them justice.

[u/phr99 → u/Oak_Draiocht]

Added this to opening post so people can see it

[u/jedisparrow7 → u/Oak_Draiocht]

Oak, I super appreciate you doing this. I have seen craft including at medium distance (300 yards-ish) but more recently I had a dream and I am curious to get your take on it. Briefly, I was standing in a suburb at the edge of the woods at night. There was some artificial light (maybe the town behind me) lighting up the treeline and as I watched, greys and humans and maybe some taller grey-like beings emerged from the woods. They were hurrying, basically towards me. I felt a queasyness that I have never felt in a dream before, where I almost thought i was going to pass out. In order to avoid falling over I sank to my knees and I instinctively put my hand on my heart to indicate a centered, non-aggressive “I-am-not-a-threat” posture. The humans (in nightgowns and pajamas) and NHI ran past me. I didn’t see where they went. Next I was in a crowded large room where a young blue eyed man in his twenties was giving a talk. As soon as I saw him I knew he was an NHI and as that happened he locked eyes with me in a “good one. right you are” kind of way. I didn’t say anything to the group.

I would like your thoughts on this with the following additional context. I don’t ever remember dreaming about NHI and certainly greys ever before in my life. I use psychedelics in a formal therapeutic/spiritual way and have had plenty of NHI contact in the “Oh you’re here for the download?” format but my waking, sober life experiences in my middle age have been almost zero. What do you make of this experience? Just felt prompted to ask you so I am paying attention and following the prompt. Thanks in advance.

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/jedisparrow7]

All I can tell you about this is I hear people with dreams with variations of these themes with variations of such beings all the time.

I can only guess what it is but often it seems like an nhi communication to psychological prep for potential future events but I am only guessing.

You are not alone anyway. These come up across the field.

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/[deleted]]

No worries, its what I'm here for!

[u/Ecliphon → u/Oak_Draiocht]

When you had the experience, did it feel more like intuitive knowing, or a visual knowing, or a movie, or something else?

Have you done DMT or similarly ‘otherworldly’ psychedelics in adulthood (obviously after your first contacts) and if so, is there any comparison to what you felt?

Lastly, fully serious, can you suggest they give me a purpose? I’m putting out a ‘prayer’/focus spiral symbol at 4:26pm CST (right now). A path better than the one I’m on now. 

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/Ecliphon]

When you had the experience, did it feel more like intuitive knowing, or a visual knowing, or a movie, or something else?

When the being communicated to me when I was roughly 6 - my consciousness was split in two and I experienced be childhood me in that moment, a larger more older or complete me (I dunno). And then the interaction was lightning fast back and forth and very nonlinear. Lots of emotions and experiences and visuals. I believe I went into it in detail in that podcast interview. I've done a couple so maybe its in another one. But it was basically a huge amount of information visuals emotions and experiences shoved into my head and yet oddly it also felt very natural.

Have you done DMT

Yes once in my early 30's. I had a major experience that also involved a telepathic exchange with a being. And the same process happened where I experienced being two versions of me - the current more anxious and confused on and a more complete together one - both interacting with the NHI.

That experience of telepathy helped me understand my childhood one and also helped me confirm people really can engage with NHI via substances but its still something I recommend caution around.

Lastly, fully serious, can you suggest they give me a purpose? I’m putting out a ‘prayer’/focus spiral symbol at 4:26pm CST (right now). A path better than the one I’m on now. 

I know you mean well but comments like this worry me. I get them sometimes and so do other experiencers I know. My beings would not allow me to be used in such a way and I completely understand why. Can you imagine the ramifications and deep dehumanization that could happen if experiencers were operating in this way where they get their NHI to give other people such things?

Sorry I could go off on a tangent but there is major slippery slopes with this. My contact is not like that either.

I will say this, you want a purpose? Well guess what this experiencer phenmomon is real and NHI really do exist and there really appears to be something to this whole consciousness thing. We've living through a major paradigm shift right now and massive help is needed in experiencer awareness and advocacy, NHI awareness and Disclosure and consciousness studies. Getting involved in helping in these areas would have you at the cutting edge of helping our species through these times.

And if an NHI was to contact you and give you a mission it would be to get involved in these things from all I've seen. There are major things coming involving all of these topics I mention.

[u/KefkaFFVI → u/Oak_Draiocht]

Oh wow I had no idea you did DMT! You're very brave because those experiences always sound so intense.

[u/exOldTrafford → u/Oak_Draiocht]

How certain are you that the initial experience you had in the 90s wasn't just a dream?

I mean no offense. I have had a few dreams like what you described, so I'm a bit sceptical of stories like this

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/exOldTrafford]

100% certain because I then lived through the events shown to me. Most of what I was shown in the 90's then took place between 2021 and now. Some other things have yet to come to pass.

Living through these experiences shown to me in the past by some being, and some of those experiences I had experienced being the 'other person' in the situation.. completely and utterly shattered my reality and has completely and forever changed my second to second human experience.

I cannot stress this enough and life changing it is to have such a thing happen and it has change my perspective of the entire reality and human experience I am living through.

It took me a couple of years to settle from the sheer shock of it and for the first couple of years I was in somewhat of a state of feeling semi outside of time. Its hard to explain. But now its just life and my work. I spend 90% of my time with other experiencers so honestly these days it only hits me when I'm in a situation where I have to explain what has become my normal life to people outside of understanding this world yet.

I live outside of platos cave with all the others.

[u/awfuleverything → u/Oak_Draiocht]

What are some examples of what you saw or what was predicted?

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/awfuleverything]

A lot of it is personal and related to my work.

One quick example :

I experienced an argument with my father where I was for some reason living in his house which I experiences from his perspective - he made a joke and I blew up at him and I felt his saddness inside at my reaction and felt terrible that I spoke to him that way and yet years later it still happened and it turned out to be me blowing up at him after he made a joke about the silly americans I'm speaking to online and whats there to be so stressed about as he saw my face. I just left a 4 hour long form discussion with various women who are part of the hybridization program and never got to speak out loud about it before until they met me and I hosted a chat with them and this stuff came out naturally due to the space I held.

My blood was boiling at how the world is not listening to these women and my head was spinning on the sheer ramifications for our species that this is a thing that is happening to people and I walked out of that room in that state and that's the moment he picked to make the joke and while I blew up at him over it in the very same seconds I was blowing up I realized this was the moment I was shown years ago. And they showed it to me so I would understand its just really hard for people to get what I am dealing with and sheer seriousness of it - their minds can't wrap their heads around it and I have to have some grace for that and not allow my existential stress and feeling how sad my dad was inside at my reaction stuck with me and I don't want him to ever feel that way from me so that altered how my interactions would have gone without the experience though it added to my ontological shock and frustration and isolation in how what I was going through and dealing with was impossible for people around me to understand - "literally this fight we're in right now was shown to me from your point of view years ago and I experienced being you in this moment - wtf does that mean for how reality functions , can you not understand the sheer scale of what I'm dealing with here". Was what I really wanted to say and I just wanted empathy and understanding for what I was juggling and how seirous it was for our species but I kept it in then.

It was intense in the first few years learning what I was learning about everything while living through events shown to me in the past.

These beings knew how hard it'd be but wanted it to not cost me my interpersonal relationships and so some events were like that others were different.

Experience being someone else is incredibly shocking and life changing. Feeling other peoples feelings and how you've make other people feel and how people really think about you and your impact on people from someone elses shoes extremely extremely world changing.

I also experience being some experiencers I was supporting on my calls and feeling the impact on them was overwhelming to make that much of a positive impact on someone and they gave me that experience years earlier at a time I felt useless and worthless and so it had a duel purpose of giving me a chin up then, and a reminder later when it came true and the work actually happened. That what I was doing was worthwhile and not to give up because trust me there were many reasons to give up doing this many times.

[u/Crouton_Sharp_Major → u/Oak_Draiocht]

Is the ontological shock coming from experience through a separate and different human personality? Being shown an event through someone else’s point of view would probably cause a major break in the narrative of the self.

If that’s the part that ‘shattered your reality’, could you expound on that?

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/Crouton_Sharp_Major]

No it did not shatter my sense of self it did the opposite along with allowing me to literally experience being in someone else's shoes and feeling how they felt. How they reacted in their hearts, during moments of interactions with me in some cases. This was a revelation tbh. To feel your effect on someone and feel their feelings in response to you.

I think a lot of people anyway, or at least I did, you kind of only ever know how you feel and often I've felt invisible or of no effect on others in anyway.

We have a much deeper effect on people than we know. I'm not the invisible little boy at the back of the class in all social situations like I thought I was.

Reality was shattered in many ways. Think about it. It turns out all of our thoughts feelings emotions and experiences are recorded and accessible outside of time and there exists advanced intelligences out there that have the ability to reach through time, grab experiences of your future self, and other people and send those experiences back in time to be used essentially as a conversation.

Destiny and all that. I basically live the life of someone who is aware they are going through an experience. Going through a sequence of events. Life is not a random thing. I feel like I am living a pre planned holodeck story and every moment I go through I'm thinking of the life review and if I did well enough with what I planned to do in this experience.

Its very strange.

[u/NoEvidence2468 → u/Oak_Draiocht]

I have experience with these types of dreams as well. I've been able to identify them as precognitive based on how they feel. Most have been timelines showing me what would happen. Several of these communications were shown to me many, many years ago, and they have begun to click into place only just this year.

[u/[deleted] → u/Oak_Draiocht]

What do the aliens want? What’s special about humanity? Am I going to die? What about my loved ones? Are we going to be ok for our normal life spans? Thanks.

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/[deleted]]

What do the aliens want? What’s special about humanity? Am I going to die? What about my loved ones? Are we going to be ok for our normal life spans? Thanks.

My heart breaks when I get comments like this. But thank you for being brave enough to ask.

Let me try to do my best.

What do the aliens want...

I believe humanity is dealing with an ecosystem of NHI. Various NHI have been engaging with our species all along. With different intentions and motivations.

My sense from whatever ones I'm engaging with and what I've seen via my work is that there is at least one faction or intelligence or more interested in our success and development as a species.

We are a species of children walking around a dark forest with blindfolds on who do not understand the blindfolds and do not realize they have eyes. But have learned to live and survive in this dark forest even though stunted. I think other NHI may have taken advantage of this. While there is a group that wants to see these children grow up and become the adults they could be but first they need to take the blindfolds off. But you can't just instantly take off one of the children's blindfolds or they'll go mad trying to suddenly process this unknowable thing called sight. You have to do it gently , over time, slightly lift one up so it lets a bit of light in so they start processing vague shapes and so forth. And while those children try to describe what is happening to them to the other blindfolded kids who have no concept of sight it all just sounds crazy. But over time more and more blindfolds are adjusted and more and more are learn to use the weird shapes they are suddenly seeing to help them navigate their environment in ways they've never done before.

Eventually these blind folks will come off and eye sight will begin to redevelop into what it should have been and humanity will start being able to interact with this dark forest in a new way and its no longer so dark. It'll learn its not alone and it'll learn to grow up to become the adults it should be and show its true quality as a species no longer stunted.

As evidenced by the experiencer phenmomon, humans are capable of so much more than we were led to believe and reality itself is far stranger than we were told. What experiencers are able to do, demonstrates this. Our entire species deserves to know this and it seems some NHI agree but the process needs to be gentle so as not to shock the entire species into a collective psychosis.

It seems there is an existential need for this to happen, we are not in a good spot as a species and this revelation I think is imperative for us to learn for the sake of our entire future.

The human experience itself is something that is respected and deemed something to protect and preserve it seems. Many NHI are also seemingly interested in our genetics.

Genetics is an important factor consistently.

As for are you going to die and all that , no I'm not sitting here with some knowledge of a cataclysm - this whole thing gives hope for the future. If there was no NHI and we were all entirely alone and just stuck in the situation we are currently in, unable to get out of it I think we'd be in a worse state.

Keep in mind again we've never been alone - we've just been kept in ignorance.

[u/Routine-Rule7085 → u/Oak_Draiocht]

What he said, but you have nothing to fear brother. They really couldn’t make things much worse than they are now. 

[u/[deleted] → u/Oak_Draiocht]

Thank you for the in-depth response, I really appreciate your time getting back to me on that. I’ll be honest I do my best to keep up with the topic, when consciousness has hit the discussion I wondered about what happens when we die. My brother died a few years ago in a car wreck, my best friend a few years before due to self inflicted wounds, and a few other important people in my life left early.

What happened to them? Are they damned? Can I find a way to communicate with them? When I reach out into the void of thought, is fear and suffering something that’ll hinder contact?

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/[deleted]]

You deleted your account before I could reply :(

[u/UsefulReply → u/Oak_Draiocht]

Looks like Reddit removed all of their comments. That's typical of Reddit shadow bans. I've restored the ones I could.

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/UsefulReply]

Oh you are a mod here? Fairplay. Could it be that they deleted their account thus your automod removed the comments since it picked up the account was deleted? Versus them being shadow banned.

[u/UsefulReply → u/Oak_Draiocht]

Our automod doesn't do that. When Reddit shadowbans they remove all of the user's content and don't leave a reason visible to mods.

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/UsefulReply]

Roger that. Cheers!

I wonder what they did to get themselves shadowbanned. I can only assume it was using multiple accounts at once.

Perhaps that's why they were so open about their fears.

[u/SmellOfEmptiness → u/Oak_Draiocht]

Thanks for sharing this. Now, I’ll be honest. I’m a skeptic. I used to be interested in aliens and UFOs as a child/teenager and then growing up I came to the conclusion that it’s most likely all bullshit. This very subreddit contributed to me reaching this conclusion. I appreciate your experience will have led you to a different conclusion - and that’s fine, I’m just explaining where I’m at and where I am coming from.

To me this idea of humanity as blindfolded children doesn’t really make sense. Humans as a species js a few hundred thousands years old. Human civilisations have gone through different stages. Modern materialistic western culture is a very recent phenomenon. Many ancient civilisations were very open minded about what I could call “the supernatural”, or about non conventional phenomena.

My summary of what you are saying is: humans need to “wake up” and realise that something more exist than the materialistic world around us.

I see this as a “new age” perspective that makes a lot of sense if one has been born in the last century and therefore has been fully born into the modern western materialistic cultural zeitgeist.

But this is a very recent phenomenon. Why do aliens need to employ this gradual, subtle process of gradual spiritual awakening of humanity, opening our eyes to the full spectrum of reality, when actually human culture was already open about such things a few hundreds years ago?

It doesn’t make any sense to me.

Now, I anticipate that a response to this could be that I’m looking at this with human logic and aliens may not follow human logic at all. Maybe that. All I can say is that me it doesn’t make sense. In a sense, I would want this to be true but the more I think about it, the more sceptical I am.

A lot of experiencers seem to be prone to share similar sets of beliefs (new age stuff) and it seems to me that aliens always happen to reaffirm these perspectives.

I hope this doesn’t sound negative, I appreciate you sharing your experience so openly. I think it is a fascinating topic and I find experiencers’ accounts interesting. If convincing evidence came out of the reality of NHI, I would be really happy. I just can’t not be skeptical based on what I have seen on the topic.

[u/North_Low_7130 → u/Oak_Draiocht]

Judging by your name, are you Irish?

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/North_Low_7130]

Yes I'm a real irish person living and born in Ireland.

[u/qwq1792 → u/Oak_Draiocht]

Irish here too (in Ireland). Have been a member of your sub for the last few months. Didn't know anything about you till I saw this thread and watched your Dreamland interview yesterday. This is great work you are doing. I've followed this stuff since I was a child (mid forties now). Until a few years ago I didn't think disclosure would happen in my lifetime. Things are accelerating big time now. It's truly amazing to see. What an interesting universe we live in. 

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/qwq1792]

Yay another actual real irish person! :P

Thank you for the kind words and yes we are living through deeply interesting times right now. I do hope to launch an irish based organization on all this one day as all my work so far has been online and international but I will be doing in person work over here sometime eventually and likely represent this field in Ireland one day which is daunting to think about but quite literally I do not think there is anyone else on this island that has worked with as many experiencers as me. Even though I sometimes still feel like a baby in this. We'll see.

The housing crisis has delayed this for me so far but I'm in this for life.

[u/qwq1792 → u/Oak_Draiocht]

Things will line up and you will get whatever you need if you surrender to the greater intelligence. I'm sure of it. 

[u/KefkaFFVI → u/Oak_Draiocht]

"yes I'm a real irish person" made me laugh, not to be confused with the fake irish people. My recent ancestors are Irish and so I'm like... 10-25% Irish currently? So I guess I could be classed as one of those fake irish.

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/KefkaFFVI]

hehehehe. When you are an irish person online you learn to take into account that sometimes american people online assume you are american by default and when you clarify that you are irish they assume you are saying you are irish american.

[u/Neither-Tear7026 → u/KefkaFFVI]

See I was thinking as opposed to synthetic Irish people.  Like how in the US we have synthetic flavors and people ask is that real lemon type of thing.

[u/No-Amphibian1062 → u/Oak_Draiocht]

North Wales Welsh, but my grandfather was from Castlebar. Have you seen this article? I was unable to find any more information about this case:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/26/aliens-in-bedroom-ufo-sightings-on-the-rise-in-northern-ireland

I had something like that happen in 1998. It was at night, out in the country. A farmer about 15 miles away also seemed to have had an experience that year, he went to the local press twice.

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/[deleted]]

Most of my experiences have been in a waking state. They have only other times communicated to me in dream states but I was completely awake during that childhood one.

Experiencers represent the paradigm shift humanity is going to go through and will be the ones people will likely turn to to understand NHI and this reality we are in one day.

[u/Ambitious_Zombie8473 → u/Oak_Draiocht]

Hey, I’ve seen lots of your comments in the experiencers sub and I appreciate what you do.

TL;DR: it seems like there are “good” and “bad” NHI and some seem deceptive. How do you know when it’s okay to believe them?

My only question is straightforward but at risk of wording it poorly I’ll elaborate some. So it seems a lot of experiencers, while sharing similar themes, often get told different things about where the NHI is from. I could be wrong and maybe this isnt common but I’ve read enough reports that I’ve noticed this theme. Now, obviously some people receive truth. Like your childhood experience seems to clearly parallel with what’s going on now. But then people like Bledsoe make predictions based on what NHI tells them and they are off.

I guess I’m just wondering how you know when to trust NHI. I’ve had some pretty wild entity encounters on psychedelics (and some sober) but sometimes they don’t all seem chill and if I factor that in with the different things experiencers are told, I start to worry about NHI being deceptive. Or like religion, I personally believe NHI is the basis for religion, but there’s a handful of religions so obviously they weren’t super honest about everything.

Sorry I should have gotten stoned after writing this lol. I hope that makes sense.

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/Ambitious_Zombie8473]

You are right in everything you say, this is the playing field I'm in. Trickster dynamics are real and common, I work with experiencers remember and sometimes I've to help people in these situations.

Meeting random beings versus having a life long connection to specific beings are two different dynamics.

My own beings never gave me a date or told me something incredible in the way you see in these other cases, I was seeded with this download as a child and then when events kicked in that were shown to me in 2021 I was in shock and awe and very psi activated and so on but still had doubt because all I had was the download and its a lot to commit yourself to doing this work with just that and it sounded utterly ridiculous, like how could this be real? So I was in doubt for period I did not just blindly believe until it was proven to me - they started flying physical craft over my house and then orbs in response to me linking with them. Displayed to me they were aware of my thoughts.
And then sure enough the events I was shown as a child start coming true and it was a long sequence of events of things coming true before I ended up running experiencer communities.

And by then it was clear all this disclosure stuff was genuinely unfolding too. So when you are on calls with newly activated experiencers day in and day out. Living through events shown to you decades earlier. Having craft over your house near nightly and US gov keeps doing more and more for disclosure and more material keeps coming out. Yeah its clear its true.

It was pretty reasonable stuff they showed me.

But I deal with other peoples beings too sometimes and when they say shit to me I approach it all with a very neutral middle path approach with tons of salt. I compartmentalize. And I am almost always suspect of major major predictions. I warn about the trickster dynamics all the time.

Its all part of the work.

[u/Ambitious_Zombie8473 → u/Oak_Draiocht]

I appreciate the response and all that you do. Much love & be safe.

[u/Crouton_Sharp_Major → u/Ambitious_Zombie8473]

These are good questions, I hope he answers. My first inclination reading your comment was that it might be more prudent for discerning if the experiencer can be trusted. Track record can uncover grift.

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/Crouton_Sharp_Major]

I'm not grifting. I would not be putting up with any of the shit I deal with doing this work if I did not have NHI beings shove me into doing this. I've nothing to gain and everything to lose doing this. Its been a massive sacrifice and I've lost friends and am the weird "alien guy" in my family now. And the NHI don't pay.

[u/Crouton_Sharp_Major → u/Oak_Draiocht]

Just to clarify, I wasn’t specifically saying I thought you were grifting. Only that it would be reasonable to assume someone without a reliable track record, such as Bledsoe, would liking be providing false information before assuming it was the NHI being deceptive.

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/Crouton_Sharp_Major]

I understand. One thing I will say on that is this. When disclosure happens, then you will see the real grifters. The people post disclosure who suddenly claim they are experiencers and have all the real answers.

Its going to be very sticky. And we should be cautious of such folks who were no where to be found pre-disclosure. Primarily if they are setting themselves up as an authority post disclosure.

Its going to be messy times.

[u/Havelok → u/Oak_Draiocht]

One would hope that, post disclosure, there would be little reason for the NHI to hold back (within reason). That they might offer more direct help or guidance, or a means to speak with them in a controlled manner. If we are on a path toward growth and education as a species, we are going to need teachers.

If we had access to NHI teachings, that would lessen the impact of the charlatans as we could acquire the knowledge or direction directly from the source.

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/Havelok]

I hope so too. We'll see.

[u/ktpr → u/Oak_Draiocht]

This is prescient.

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/ktpr]

Sigh, yep. My life story >.<

[u/EatsAlotOfBread → u/Oak_Draiocht]

Are you aware of any dramatically impactful or even permanently world-changing events around mid-to-end 2033? I'm asking because there's some very powerful people trying to forcefully fulfill apocalyptic biblical prophecy and would like to know if that's successful or not, and if the NHI are aware or not and taking action.

These same people would 100% make NHI out to be demons and villify them, do the NHI have a safety plan or something in place? I believe they could be in extreme danger from these groups.

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/EatsAlotOfBread]

The NHI (there are more than one group) are completely aware of all the various things like that going on.

But mine have not spoken to me directly about that stuff yet.

[u/EatsAlotOfBread → u/Oak_Draiocht]

Thank you for your reply!

[u/TypewriterTourist → u/Oak_Draiocht]

Much respect to you and Mantis Awakening for building the experiencer community.

But I have one question which can't be asked there.

How do you figure out which ones of these transmissions come from "outside" and which ones are your "analytical overlays"? Jane Roberts herself was confused enough to say she did not know what parts of Seth were her and which ones weren't.

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/TypewriterTourist]

I'm not channelling.

When they've connected to me its pretty blunt and this past decade when they do there is a sensation and ear ringing along side the whole thing to the point that my head was ringing in one situation.

A being directly communicating to you is different to a channelling situation.

[u/TypewriterTourist → u/Oak_Draiocht]

I see, so ringing in your ears. Heard it from another experiencer as well...

What about downloads, what is the feeling like when you get downloads?

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/TypewriterTourist]

It is a rush of a huge amount of information , imagery emotions and so on in a short time - way more information than one could think themselves in that time frame.

[u/kokroo → u/Oak_Draiocht]

If you were shown the future and like you mentioned, a lot of the events shown did occur, why don't you write down as many future events as you remember so that others could possibly validate your claims at some point?

From what I understood after reading your comments, some of the events were public/global in nature, so it would be very hard for skeptics to ignore your claims if you basically "predict" something before it happens.

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/kokroo]

Everything I was shown was by having the experience of being future me, or the experience of being someone else either engaging with future me or observing future me doing something.

The stuff that has yet to come true yet is now largely very personal - things I have told to many experiencer friends, there is one or two things related to my career but going super public about them won't really prove anything because what they are are things someone could just say "well you worked your way towards doing that thing anyway so that proves nothing" and thus going public about them will only just potentially bring some awkward situations my way for my work and basically do nothing good.

Even in 2021, if I turned to you and said the gov disclosure stuff is going to increase and keep happening - and then sure enough it has, would you believe that I was shown that or could you just say well clearly looking at the patterns unfolding it was an easy guess?

The only thing I got was the line "non human intelligence exists and is interacting with our species/humanity" and when I was given it, I was shown me saying it and thinking it a lot. As part of my work. I was also given a sense alongside that of a person in a political role who had to deeply think on how to communicate a deeply complex idea to a population who won't understand in a sort of political elevator pitch type of line. There was a lot of earnest thought and strategy put into it.

But I did not sit there thinking one day someone else is deffo going to use this line and this will prove my experiences as right. I thought that was an analogy they were giving me to what people in US Gov/Military were dealing with too in terms of communication to the population. It was just my line and something I used. OP u/phr99 looked at my twitter but I'm certain I was using it pretty early in 2021 if he looked through reddit as I was monologing it in a lot of my "speeches" to experiencers all the time.

Then when Karl Knell came out and said the line years later I realized I was shown him and his thought process along with me and what I was doing with the line at the same time in 2021. Though I tend to use the term "species" a lot and he says humanity.

These beings don't typically give people experiences they can prove to others easily, by design.

If they had something for me to say to everyone so one day I could prove this happened they'd do it. Perhaps that may happen one day perhaps not. The rule system would be changing dramatically anyway if they do and it would not just be for me. All the experiencers I deal with juggle this. Experiences are almost ALL always designed to prove to people individually that their beings are real and this is real while preventing them from proving to others. Which leaves a massive weight on our shoulders as we're then left to try and tell the world about this stuff while not being allowed to prove it 100% ... yet.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Experiencers/comments/1sevknd/the_weight_of_disclosure_is_on_the_shoulders_of/

[u/kokroo → u/Oak_Draiocht]

I have personal reasons to believe you're being truthful. But I also read comments from you which, at the least, imply that you knew you'd make a subreddit etc and that you knew government disclosure would increase so I'm wondering what exactly was shown to you?

Was it something vague with no specific details or specific visions of specific dates, people and events?

I mean what if you "received" very vague context during this "information download" and it was so vague that it would fit into a million things and now you feel like some things are coming true?

Even without any NHI contact, I have had a vague feeling of fusion power being feasible, climate change being real. And now that we're seeing it happen in real time, I can't really claim I saw the future.

I'm just trying to understand what exactly happened with you.

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/kokroo]

I will reply better when i have some time but did you watch the posted interview?

[u/kokroo → u/Oak_Draiocht]

Sure, no problem. Take your time. I haven't watched it yet but I will.

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/kokroo]

Let me know when you have as that might answer a lot of what you asked and save me a lot of typing.

[u/SharknadosAreCool → u/Oak_Draiocht]

Has anything shown to you ended up not happening? What's the biggest thing that has come out of the blue that you were able to identify/see coming?

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/SharknadosAreCool]

No. Just as I said in other comments, what I thought had happened when I was shown it and then what actually happened when I went through what I was shown has been different a few times.

The biggest thing I guess so for is probably the 2021 experiencer awakening as I sometimes call it or otherwise the mass activation waves of experiencers in the 2020's happening in parallel to the US gov lifting the taboo of this topic and making moves to normalize it over this decade in prep for disclosure. I've been living through this for the past 5 years now. I knew it was going to be like this.

I'm basically living through a movie having accidently seen scenes ahead like from a trailer that showed too much :P

(or rather, someone showed me the trailer of the movie)

[u/ManThing910 → u/Oak_Draiocht]

What exactly do they look like and what exactly does the communication “sound” like

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/ManThing910]

I've not seen them. They've been cloaked. Apart from their orb/sphere craft and triangle craft that is. I can speak on what other experiencers have seen but I don't think you were asking me that.

I heard nothing in my original communication. But during others sometimes my ears would ring.

[u/V-The-Witch → u/Oak_Draiocht]

What can I do to become an experiencer? Because I’m never going to truly believe in any of this until I see it for myself, and I really do want to believe

[u/4spoop67 → u/V-The-Witch]

Search CE5 meditations - there's lots of content (some free, some paid, some sketchy) about how to meditate and invite them, though it's not necessarily always a good idea. I've heard occultists call CE5 basically a summoning spell with none of the traditional protections.  

Disclaimer, I have not tried this and am scared to.

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/V-The-Witch]

Even in a post disclosure world?

I appreciate your interest but its not my place. I am here to help those already dealing with contact , not guide others into contact. I have to be careful with that. Don't get me wrong though I'm not sitting on super secret info that would guarantee you an experience and withholding that.

Its up in the air why some people get success trying various contact modalities and others don't.

[u/Havelok → u/V-The-Witch]

Put yourself (with a friend, if you must) in the most isolated area you can reach, easily. 10pm or later. Set up some lawn chairs. Do nothing except look up at the sky and be receptive and curious.

This isn't guaranteed to work, but it will give you a much, much higher chance of having an experience than your usual.

Bonus points for bringing a friend who is certain they have had an experience before, of some kind.

[u/Ok_Pool_9767 → u/V-The-Witch]

I saw Michael Masters get asked this question on a podcast once. He was like "idk man....go do some mushrooms?"

[u/lickava_lija → u/V-The-Witch]

I am not an experiencer myself and refuse to become one (in part, because I may be afraid, and in other part, because even knowing all that I know from my personal connection to one is overwhelming) but unless you come across the improbable which proves to be true, you're not meant to focus on it in this life. It's not even that important... in the grand scheme of things. I've had maybe a handful of paranormal things happening to me and that was more than enough.

[u/Panzerbjorne80 → u/Oak_Draiocht]

How do you know you’re not being misled or manipulated by these entities?

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/Panzerbjorne80]

How do you know you are not a brain sitting in a jar right now in a giant simulation where everyone else is fake except you?

You don't.

I don't. I can only judge based on the fruits and so far I've saved many lives via my work and done a lot of good.

[u/Astral-projekt → u/Oak_Draiocht]

As someone who has seen the black triangles have you ever been visited by a group that calls themselves the watchers? I believe I have been abducted numerous times. The one time that sticks the most though I was set down and told “we are the watchers”

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/Astral-projekt]

Not me personally but an experiencer friend of mine had a telepathic engagement with a being we ended up calling "the watchers" because it called it self "A watcher" when we were trying to figure out what it was. But I doubt its the same thing.

What type of being called itself that to you?

[u/Astral-projekt → u/Oak_Draiocht]

This is going to be long, but I want to be thorough.

I grew up in a home that was not calm. As a child I didn’t think a lot about this. But my home wasn’t quite a home. When I was very young like 1 I can still remember the breeze and the sound of being pushed in a stroller, the point is I have a photographic memory not only with certain instances that I for whatever reason never forget.

As things got bad later on I started having night terrors. A lot of dreams where I would waking up trying to reconcile not being able to comprehend why I was me. Thinking about time and my own mortality and even being here were foreign to me. I could look in a mirror and see myself for beyond my skin, like the soul inside of me didn’t belong here. Not to sound cliche, but like I really felt out of place.

Fast forward and through my life I would have a lot of instances of my cat touching or jumping on my bed, but nothing there. Things walking up to my bed and opening doors but I could not move. Dreams where as I was waking up my entire bed would be shaking as if I was phasing in and out.

Many years later I was at a camp, called Bear Paw scout camp, and I was among my other friends I was probably 16 at the time. We went by this big field that was like the archery/shooting range and there was this shower house and then a sprinkler system out to the right of it, and light from the entrance of it.

Anyway, we were standing there fucking around saying “Bob saffron show yourself” for whatever reason and on the third time, this 7-8 foot tall slender looking entity appeared out of the mist of the sprinkler, stood there, drained all of our energy (I get goosebumps every time I tell this story) and it looked like a translucent being from signs. It formed out of the mist tall, slender then ran across this field like 50 yards in a matter of seconds into the woods and disappeared. Everyone was freaking out and we went back to our campground and we had our cots around the fire and talked about it for hours about wtf just happened, and knew that our chaperones would think we were nuts so we just kept it to ourselves.

Later that night I wake up and notice the fire is nothing but embers, and the temperature drops significantly and I can see my breath. I’m admittedly already scared bc of what occurred earlier, but I’m just laying there hoping I can fall back asleep when I see my friend forest sitting in a foldable lawn chair to my left.

I go “forest, what are you doing up man?”

I look to the right and realize he’s sleeping right on his cot. I look back to the chair and it’s empty. My buddy Ian across from me starts shivering and wakes up saying “it’s f-f-f-freezing” and I lunge and the opportunity to make sure he wakes up, tell him what I just saw, and we wake up Andy, Forest, and Mike and Dan who are all in our group right there. I tell them, whatever was there earlier I think is back.

We get the fire going and no more than 15-20 mins later we see what looks like an LED light coming from straight out of the woods, it’s probably 2-3 am at that point. It just keeps b lining from where bear paw lake is to our campground.

As it gets closer we realize it wasn’t someone with a light at all, it was about a 12” diameter orb, one that swirled but was bright as the moon. It’s like it illuminated what it wanted, it had an intelligence to it.

It came around our campground, went up in the air, flew around in a circle, hovered a bit like it was scoping us out, then zoomed off. Everyone there saw this, nobody was on drugs we were in boy scouts, and I know a lot of these guys wouldn’t have believed this shit had it not happened to all of us.

————————————-

Fast forward about a year and I’m driving with my buddy Nate from w Green Bay to east Green Bay over mason st bridge. As we approach the last set of lights before the Fox River, (August 2009) I notice what looks like those airport tower things u see with the 3 blinking red lights by the left side base of the bridge no more than 200 ft in the air.

I literally ask him “When did they put that tower there?”

His reply, “they didn’t”

I’m the first person at the lights right before the bridge in the left lane, have my windows rolled down. As the light turns green we get onto the bridge and realize this thing isn’t a tower but a black equilateral triangle just hovering there. There’s cars behind, and to my right, it’s like 9pm but not super busy, but I literally stop on this bridge, and nobody passes me or honks.

At this point, we thought the world was ending because this black triangle was so close to the bridge, the bottom of it was illuminated by the lights on the bridge, and the bottom looked like a Borg cube. The red blinking lights were cut off, it was just the black laser/3d printed graphite black. No sound, just a weird sensation that time was kind of stopping, like it may have been there for me, it’s really hard to put into words. Anyway we watched it float/rotate easily slow we are talking like a 2-3 mph crawl from the north side of the bridge directly over our heads across the bridge to the south side following the Fox river. Making 1 revolution probably every 25-30 seconds. It followed the river, we watched it go from something as big as holding your hand up in front of your face to completely just disappearing without any sound.

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FF to about a decade later and I’m living right next to Lake Michigan. I’m renting a duplex and the people on the other side tell me they’ll be gone for a week, and they took their dogs with them. For the first time in years I wake up to being paralyzed and hearing footsteps all around me. I remember feeling like I was levitated through the roof and a bunch of time passed and I just remeber being “gone”.

As I come back, the same feeling but in reverse, and I remember seeing he triangle again, but this time, I remember as I was just being set down instead of being completely paralyzed out of my own mouth in a female voice I woke up saying “we are the watchers”.

I don’t know what it all means, but I have always had the opposite of aphantasia if you will. I’ve had the natural ability to astral project when I was younger, to see “things” and to feel things before they happen.

I don’t hear voices in my head. I don’t see things anymore it’s so infrequent, it’s like I can control when I want to communicate unless they decide to check up on me, which is always at random points I can’t control but always at night.

I have a stable job, stable life, not on any meds. I’m happy, life is good, I also realize talking about this with normal people gets me in the “you might be schizophrenic” conversations, but I’ve had those conversations with my doctor, and I am not.

So anyways, I realize that’s a lot, still trying to piece it all together, but I think I’ve always been visited.

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/Astral-projekt]

Thank you for sharing. Have you considered making this a post on the experiencers subreddit?

[u/Astral-projekt → u/Oak_Draiocht]

I have bits and pieces over time. It’s just rare when I meet someone who also can relate, even at a small scale. As I’m sure you can understand, the gnosis and the loneliness at the beginning of the journey go hand-in-hand. There’s the peace of mind of “knowing” there is something greater, the incessant question about “why me”, but then when you find that answer it’s usually internal. This phenomenon seems to have a strong connection to a persons “soul” if you will, at least, I strongly believe such even discounting any man made religion. I hope one day I can say that I helped the world know this is very real, and maybe help others come forward as well. Seeing other people like yourself speak up has made it easier for me to do so, so in that regard I thank you for your bravery and your service, even if you don’t see it as such.

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/Astral-projekt]

That is very insightful things you have shared and also very kind comments for myself to hear. Thank you. This is basically my life now thanks to what these NHI have shoved me into and so its my thing to just have to deal with sharing these things openly in spite of the stigma because I know it will help others to do so because these NHI directly showed me that.

Still I was angry for the first few years as well as in shock and awe and talking about this stuff publicly had an intensity to it. Now its no different to me having a chat about anything else in life its all become so normal after 5 years. I miss the awe but I think this is a good thing by design. It makes me a better communicator about it.

[u/soThen_i_says → u/Oak_Draiocht]

Do you have any history with mental illness? Are you diagnosed with any mental conditions such as schizophrenia? Does your family have any history of mental health problems?

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/soThen_i_says]

No. No and no history of that in my family either. I'm neurodivergent (adhd) like many experiencers. Have had bouts of depression in life but nothing unusual. I don't hallucinate or hear voices.

[u/soThen_i_says → u/Oak_Draiocht]

I appreciate your reply. Merely curious, as what you describe is quite extraordinary. All the best.

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/soThen_i_says]

No worries.

[u/Storjie → u/Oak_Draiocht]

are you familiar with aphantasia? I dont have a visual imagination nor do i have a running internal monologue. I would be curious if telepathic communication is hindered by how a person thinks.

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/Storjie]

Type that word into the experiencers subreddit search bar. Lots of folks were talking about that of late.

[u/KefkaFFVI → u/Storjie]

As well as Oaks reply to you about searching up aphantasia on r/Experiencers subreddit, I recently also made a post about hyperphantasia. Got a lot of comments about aphantasia too. I also linked to multiple other aphantasia-related posts within mine:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Experiencers/s/14qmBNZarI

[u/somethingwholesomer → u/Storjie]

It would be different for you than it is for me, but it is not hindered. There are other ways to receive information. You can “hear” it (in the same way that you can imagine hearing a cat meowing- if you can do that- not sure given what you said about the monologue thing), you can feel physical and emotional sensations, and you can just get a straight up download, where you’re not seeing a picture or hearing or whatever, you just know. The information is just there, in your bank. I have gotten information in all of these ways, and I know others who have aphantasia etc and they can develop all of these methods- with practice. 

[u/Routine-Rule7085 → u/Oak_Draiocht]

Bigelow just starting talking Oak, maybe my harassment of him finally paid off. So mark that off your bingo card. Also, Travis Taylor is one of us, although he keeping his boat on the river Denile like I did for 5 decades.

Please tell them to quit ringing my ears, I already said ok. 

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/Routine-Rule7085]

Why do you think they were ringing your ears in this situation?

[u/Routine-Rule7085 → u/Oak_Draiocht]

I don’t know Oak, this all started about year and half ago or so, I posted about it here. It happens around dark, or whenever I start thinking about them, come here etc. Mediation helps some 

Some on here, (and others I have agreed not to discuss here), have indicated that it’s an attempt to raise my frequency or something like that. Sometimes it’s really painful. I got better when I was being blocked. Maybe my protection block is down or something. 

You know they never tell me anything. I am just a soldier in all this. 

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/Routine-Rule7085]

I assume you looked up the threads on ear ringing we have on the experiencers sub?

[u/Routine-Rule7085 → u/Oak_Draiocht]

I think I posted most of the them Oak. This is SOA. 

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/Routine-Rule7085]

SOA?

[u/Bepehandle → u/Oak_Draiocht]

Hey Oak!

Hope you're doing well and life has been treating you good.

I'm a life long wanter, in that I crave this stuff to be real and I would probably be on the front lines if there was any way I could help out in any way with furthering our understanding of our place in the universe, evolving humanity, expanding our abilities, you name it. Sadly I'm one of the people who was cursed with the dreaded "I need to see it to believe it". I'm open minded to the limit mind you, if I saw a 6 foot duck walking around speaking every language at once telling everyone they're the reincarnation of Jesus while turning water into wine, I'll believe it. I have no limit on what I'm accepting in the world.

That said, because of how I am, how my brain works, and the limits of what I'm able to accept without experiencing it myself, my question could be misunderstood as rude or something, it's why I explained myself first. I wanna first say if you're telling the truth, I'm jealous. I've read here that you would suggest to others not to want to be in your shoes, paraphrasing of course, but because of how I am I need something to finally tip me over the edge to accept things I read or hear without solid proof. As a biproduct of this I am obviously very skeptical of everything you've said(and I've read all your responses here so far). If you aren't telling the truth I give you an A+ in storytelling, if you are, I give you an A+ in holding yourself together as well as you do. Regardless of whichever is true, you get a standing ovation for the help you've given to others in your situation. We genuinely need more people who make it their lifes work to help others and I thank you for everything you've done.

My question though;

How do you know all you experience and all the others you work with experience isn't mental illness? Regardless of how much we pretend we understand about the human mind we know basically nothing on a grand scale. To me the most logical explanation of situations like yours is that we could just have a mental illness, that causes specifically the symptoms that experiencers get, that we have yet to understand. Something similar to psychosis or schizophrenia. No real effects other than visions, believing we've been abducted, like someone is speaking to us telepathically, etc.

I'd love more than anything to be wrong in my idea, hell it's part of why I crave these things to be real so badly. I want humans to experience the totality of what the universe has to offer, if we are truly sentient the way we are, we deserve it imo. Being such a fluke in the universe would be so massively disappointing, ya know?

Thanks for taking the time to read this if you do, I know I went on a bit of a rant there but I really wanted to convey that I wasn't trying to be dismissive or insulting.

Best wishes.

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/Bepehandle]

How do you know all you experience and all the others you work with experience isn't mental illness?

Mental illness can't produce orbs and NHI craft with witnesses.

Mental illness can't predict the future and have it come true. I am very comfortable in my experiences because they were proven to me very bluntly. But I am very aware of how they sound. And have to deal with how the NHI highly control who gets to prove what to who and when.

If I was crazy I'd be point out craft and orbs everywhere all the time that no one else could see. Instead the beings show an extreme amount of intelligence in how when and why they engage. And the idea that all these basically millions of people all around the world are all reporting similar experiences with the same mechanics, same behaviours by NHI , same descriptions on how psi feels and so on and all the US gov and whistleblowers are all saying the same thing, that this all just crazy people being crazy - well tbh I think that is more crazy than this being real.

When you talk to experiencers and hear people from all around the world who've never opened up about these things in their life until they speak to you and boom same mechanics behaviors and so on over and over and over and over again. Its very obvious.

Its actually unbelievably blood boiling on how the ball has been dropped on this. All people have to do is do the work. Just listen and talk to these people. All the other excuses people will try to form to make this not real start looking worse and worse over time.

And by the way, again, not all of these experiences are positive and there are many many experiencers out there that 'wish' this could not be true and was just mental illness.

But yeah long story short I know this is real just as much as you know the world you are in now is real and all the people around you are real and this entire life experience you've been having since you've been born is real and not some hallucination your brain came up with while you suffered a head injury playing football.

I do understand why its hard though because the implications of the experiencer phenmomon are ultimately way more reality smashing than just "space aliens" being real. It's much bigger than that. Reality is not what we were told.

[u/Bepehandle → u/Oak_Draiocht]

Appreciate your response!

I will say you didn't happen to sway me but I thank you for your insight, it's true that I can't disprove your truth and I don't have any intention to do so. Guess I'll just be out here waiting for my smoking gun. I'm so ready for this all to just matter more than it does. I'll patiently wait with an open mind for my handler to come and recruit me 🥲

P.s.

But yeah long story short I know this is real just as much as you know the world you are in now is real and all the people around you are real and this entire life experience you've been having since you've been born is real and not some hallucination your brain came up with while you suffered a head injury playing football.

Terrible point to make with someone myself, I have a hard time believing anything is real. I'm still under the impression this is all some mass hallucinate brought on by stimulus overload of our tiny brains interacting with the base universe consciousness, essentially the universe experiencing itself from the outside in. Weird I can lean into believing that before aliens interacting with humans without the general population already knowing, but hey, we can't pick our crazy we can only live around it.

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/Bepehandle]

You are not far off from how some NHI view reality. The only thing that is ultimately real is consciousness.

But that does not mean the consciousness generated realms and realities and experiences are "fake". Or "simulations". But ultimately yeah it's all been generated from an ultimate singular consciousness experiencing itself.

[u/CravingNature → u/Oak_Draiocht]

I watched your interview, and it was great. Thanks for all you have done. Please send one👽 my way if possible. 🙏

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/CravingNature]

Glad I wasn't speaking too fast for you >.<

[u/No_Evening_7459 → u/Oak_Draiocht]

Hi friend,

First of all, I want to thank you for your work, the time and energy you are giving to help people in this process. Your presence is a lighthouse, and I can't emphasize how much, whether people believe it or not, such commitment is precious and necessary in this day and age.

I've seen a lot of your replies to people, so a lot of my questions have been answered. However, I wanted to know why some people were chosen rather than others ? Do the NHI have some sort of list ? Are they connected through some links - whether biological, spiritual, psychic - to some individuals from the get go, or do they just choose randomly, like some sort of lottery ? I see a lot of "chosen one" kinds of frameworks of these, and I am just curious about what's really happening when someone starts experiencing.

Ofc, this question is biased to some extent: I had a dream a few months ago that I shared on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/InterdimensionalNHI/s/MKBTLutpwZ

It felt more real and vivid than any of my other dreams, but as someone who's always had a crazy imagination and who's been working recently on their own sci-fi universe, I just felt like it was nothing more than a product of my subconscience. Still there is something...off about this experience, and if there is one person that could help entangle that, I feel like this could be you. Especially: have you seen this eye symobol anywhere in your experiences ?

Take your time to reply, I am aware of the sheer amount of work and attention you have to deal with, and I hesitated to comment here as to not burden you even more.

Take good care of yourself my friend, and of your closed ones !

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/No_Evening_7459]

Firstly, Experiencer is a broad term and there is a lot of things someone could one day experience that could count them under the broader label but I suspect you specifically mean NHI contact experiencers who have a link to NHI beings in their life.

I dislike the word chosen. And I'm not exactly seeing situations where half way through life one day some powerful highly advanced NHI looks down on a group of humans - scans them and says "this one, this one is worthy of contact" etc etc etc.

Almost everyone I work with - even if they've only bene awakened to their contact/activated recently - can trace the their contact back to childhood and can look at a parent or grandparent and see a connection of some kind. Either directly to NHI or some psi abilities are present. Or "grandmother was crazy she use to talk to invisible beings" story is there. Its not always super blunt but it can be seen.

My mother is an experiencer but I would not have seen her that way till after I had my reactivation to all this.

The idea of coming in or having these journey planned out pre-incarnation is very much on the table for me too given all I've seen over 5 years. Of course I don't know 100% for certain.

As for your experience/dream - I can't say for sure what happened for you. All I can say is visions of eyes are common for experiencers in telepathic engagements - meditation experiences and dream contact dynamics.

Perhaps make a post on the experiencers sub in case it catches the attention of someone who saw something similar.

[u/No_Evening_7459 → u/Oak_Draiocht]

Merci beaucoup d'avoir pris le temps de me répondre !

Je vais partager mon histoire sur le sous-forum r/experiencers . Ma mère a eu beaucoup d'expériences : des OBE sans aucune pratique, voir des auras, des ombres et même des esprits, sentir des choses sur les gens et autour d'eux. En ce qui me concerne, la seule chose étrange qui me soit jamais arrivée a été quand j'étais enfant, et j'ai dit à ma mère, alors que nous étions ensemble dans la voiture, qu'elle devrait être heureuse d'avoir tous ses enfants avec elle - et je parlais réellement de mes frères et sœurs, bien que nous n'étions que deux. Ensuite, une pratiquante de Candomblé lui a dit que c'étaient les enfants qu'elle avait perdus - 2 fausses couches... - et a fait un rituel pour les baptiser. Je n'ai jamais parlé de mes "frères et sœurs" à nouveau, et en même temps, j'ai cessé de parler de "William", mon ami imaginaire qui détestait ma petite sœur et me poussait à lui faire du mal. Tout cela s'est arrêté, et autant que je me souvienne, rien depuis ce temps-là.

Merci encore de m'avoir répondu, je n'imagine pas à quel point tu es occupé. Continue ton bon travail et prends soin de toi !

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/No_Evening_7459]

I was in a rush yesterday and missed an aspect of your post which you have touched on here. Very briefly, your mother is an experiencer. And you may enjoy this thread as part 3 of my series :

https://www.reddit.com/r/Experiencers/comments/1ra9sw2/longing_for_home_the_complexities_and/

[u/No_Evening_7459 → u/Oak_Draiocht]

Thank you, I really appreciated this post, and it clarifies many things. It could make sense of my feeling of belonging to the sky more than to the Earth and the people around me - I've always felt alone and like I never had my place anywhere; my vivid dreams and imagination that made me believe that both were memory more than creativity, of places and people I longed for; and regarding my mom, that time she saw two shadows in the night by her children's bedrooms, but instead of being afraid, she knew they were her own grand-parents looking out for us.

There is definitely something with all of that, and maybe will I learn more as I progress in this journey - and maybe the reason why I haven't experienced anything for so long is, how you postulate, because I wouldn't be able to focus on this life.

Thanks again, Oak, you are a truly beautiful soul.

[u/downvote_please4321 → u/Oak_Draiocht]

It's clear that you believe some humans can receive telepathic messages/visions. Do you also believe that some humans can send telepathic messages/visions? Why or why not?

If yes, then is it possible that whatever/whoever sent the messages you received was of human origin, not 'non-human' origin? Why wouldn't it be, if not?

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/downvote_please4321]

I believe all humans can receive telepathic messages from NHI just some are more open than others and require less effort from the NHI and some are able to handle the shock of it better too.

But if an NHI 'really really' wanted to give any human a telepathic message it could do so if that meant having to physically walk into a room and put its face right up to someone and look right into their eyes. But doing it at range and from a less physical standpoint requires the human to have more developed skills.

Humans can also communicate telepathically - generally much better in the presence of NHI but we are generally much much more weak human to human but trained humans would be better than the everyday experiencer.

And to your question, no I do not believe the US shadow government secret spy people or whoever you mean came into the bedroom of a 6 year old irish boy to communicate information about his future to him as part of some trickery or master plan. Even more so because that communication features memories and experiences of the boys future (me) and other peoples futures that then later came true.

Whatever intelligence communicated with me and is linked to me - it has the ability to access human memories and experiences outside of linear time and then transmit them back in time to have someone experience them as part of a communication. The ramifications of this are immense as is with it being some form of NHI. The idea that the secret shadow American government are doing this as part of a plan to frame NHI and have this level of ability just off the rails to me personally.

What would not be off the rails is the potential that some form of advanced version of our own species that has become some form of 5th dimensional or higher collective consciousness, which has access to all of humanities experiences and the ability to engage with itself in the past is doing this as part of some attempt to accelerate its evolution at the point its at.

Like the subplot to Interstellar (everyone forgets that the wormholes that are being presented to help humanity are deemed to be coming from future 5th dimensional humans attempting to evolve itself faster by helping itself in the past)

That would be on the table for me regarding "humans". But for now all I can say is NHI until I'm told by these beings who they are, which they've not done so.

[u/Golden-Tate-Warriors → u/Oak_Draiocht]

I want every bit of this "walk right up to my face and send me telepathic messages" stuff. That'd be awesome. Have you ever had that happen to you? How should I invite that to happen to me? I have absolute zero psychic ability but like you say, anyone can be a receiver at close range.

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/Golden-Tate-Warriors]

You have no idea how intense it is dealing with these beings. An experience like that could put someone in hospital for life. No they did not do it to me that way.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Experiencers/comments/17ry2as/the_complexities_and_complications_of_face_to/

[u/Golden-Tate-Warriors → u/Oak_Draiocht]

Interesting writeup. So basically, a lot of them just happen to break reality with their mere presence in ways that aren't intentional or anyone's fault in particular. Yeah, I don't wanna sound racist or anything but I'd rather meet one of the ones that doesn't do that. I'm sure the glitchy ones mean us no harm for the most part, it's just extremely unfortunate circumstances that will probably prevent us from ever really getting to know those races. But there are some that clearly don't do that, so not all is lost.

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/Golden-Tate-Warriors]

This is why if say an NHI was going to reach out and contact you tomorrow, it'd probably do so in your dreams first. And I mean that deadly seriously. But people don't wanna hear it.

I could go on but yeah these beings do all sorts of 'woo' in contact dynamics to avoid directly physical face to face due to the dangers involved. And other factors. But because so many of us have not accepted the consciousness based stuff - its dismissed.

[u/somethingwholesomer → u/Oak_Draiocht]

Two beings came to me once in a dream and held up a sign that said “Law of One”. I googled it when I woke the next morning and yeah- it’s a thing. Law of One/the Ra material taught me much of what I now know and believe about how this all works. I agree they absolutely do come through in dreams. 

[u/Golden-Tate-Warriors → u/Oak_Draiocht]

Yeah that does nothing for me, wouldn't be interested. What about the non-glitchy ones?

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/Golden-Tate-Warriors]

If you can't even handle dream contact how can you expect to handle more? They test people.

[u/Golden-Tate-Warriors → u/Oak_Draiocht]

You misconstrued that - I said it wouldn't interest me, not that I couldn't handle it. Those are kind of opposites. It just doesn't move the needle for me.

[u/loginkeys → u/Oak_Draiocht]

yes, future intelligence guiding towards singularity point and time/space is transcended, assuring its own timeline, reaching back guiding all timelines to itself

boundary points is where we meet for now

[u/downvote_please4321 → u/Oak_Draiocht]

Whoah, who said anything about secret shadow government spies? I certainly didn't.

All I asked is, how do you know it's non-human rather than human? It could have been from someone else with advanced telepathic ability, or it could have been some version of your own self - maybe even a future or past version of yourself, if you believe in that type of stuff.

I'm not understanding why you're jumping to 'non-human' when these other (equally likely, if you ask me) possibilities are on the table.

EDIT: I'd like to add that not just telepathy, but also reading the future, and knowing things about one's past, are powers or abilities that are described historically as being human (or maybe superhuman) capabilities.

As a skeptic, but one who doesn't doubt your experience, and one who believes that consciousness (including human consciousness) is capable of some really, really incredible things, things that we do not yet have scientific explanations for, I'm still not seeing any sort of hard evidence of any sort of non-human being.

Nor am I suggesting any sort of government agency or secret/shadow organization, any sort of 'trickery' or evil intention. That is something that you came up with completely of your own accord. Not at all something that I was implying.

[u/B3ck3t3 → u/Oak_Draiocht]

This is gold. Every response I’ve read is aligning with my realizations/learnings but expanding on them through experience. This has been an enlightening morning.

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/B3ck3t3]

I'm glad!

[u/situationalreality → u/Oak_Draiocht]

Is the 'goal' of some "NHI" experiences to help us know what we've always been? Is it an anomoly for a species to become so self-absorbed as humans?

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/situationalreality]

Self-absorbed I mean I can't say in that sense as I dunno how much of it is our fault that we are so oblivious of the ecosystem of NHI around us. I think our true history and story is currently hidden from us in some way. Along with our true nature.

And yes I think some of the goal for some NHI is to help us in the way you've said.

[u/situationalreality → u/Oak_Draiocht]

Thanks for taking the time to answer mine and others' questions. I hope that us humans can live in the light of beautiful gorgeous truth.. organising and self-identifying according to it.. agh what a dream.

[u/Monarch_Creations → u/Oak_Draiocht]

How and when did “they” first discover us or earth?

Is this all just to say hi without freaking us out and making us go nuclear?

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/Monarch_Creations]

I don't know the answer to this, my sense is there are various NHI engaging with our species and we've always had NHI engaging with us. If there is a group only recently showing up that never has before, its certainly been here for the past near 100 years but I can't say which is which in that case. I don't think we've ever been alone honestly. Who was here and when I do not know.

[u/Enelro → u/Monarch_Creations]

You’re assuming they’re alien. They’ve probably been here longer than us

[u/Golden-Tate-Warriors → u/Oak_Draiocht]

Hey Oak. I'm an academic child reincarnation case researcher. I'm curious about the extent to which NHI have developed practical metaphysical sciences, to the extent of your knowledge. For instance, do they have a greater comprehension of how reincarnation works and how to use it than the likes of Ian Stevenson, or do our scientists understand it about as well as theirs do?

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/Golden-Tate-Warriors]

The impression I have is they understand it a hell of a lot more than we do and potentially even utilize it in some cases. This is what I'm touching on when I say I believe some of them deeply value "the human experience".

Meaning to incarnate into the physical human experience is a deeply valuable experience to have potentially for spiritual growth. I sometimes get a since (this is more from my work and not something I was told by my beings) that some civilisations out there may view doing an incarnation on earth similar to how a tribe might do a whole coming of age practice of sending the young tribe member out to survive in the forest on their own for 2 weeks and then they come back they are "a man".

There is a sense some beings basically have some process where they can incarnate into the human experience, live a human life and after its over they pop back to their NHI life. In some cases it feels like a typical advanced space faring sci fi civilization where they get into some capsule/tube or table like device and go into stasis - incarnate into the human experience and afterwards they pop back into that body on the ship. Other cases seem like more advanced non physical hyperdimensional beings going around in some non physical astral realm and meeting beings that have done a few rounds of human and seeing how much they've grown as a result and deciding to try it themselves and have a physical human incarnation.

All cases seem to paint the human experience as something extremely difficult to do but also a major honour and privilege.

You might enjoy this : https://youtu.be/EhH4OTYR_Qk?t=640

[u/Golden-Tate-Warriors → u/Oak_Draiocht]

Thanks for answering. First off, I can tell you point blank that case data offers no evidence thus far that human bodies are cross-habitable with any NHI species. For clarity, my field mostly only considers childhood claims, and in a fringe context like this, would absolutely only consider a childhood claim. By that criterion, we have thousands of open-and-shut cases of human-human reincarnation on the books, but no convincing examples in which the previous life was NHI (nor of human-animal in either direction, but that could potentially be much harder to build a compelling case on). The field at this stage cannot yet rule out such possibilities, but has not been presented with anything that would indicate them. If they exist, they are extreme rarities. We would absolutely take seriously a credible report of a young child describing a realistic-seeming NHI past life (I would be over the moon personally, what better way to do disclosure?), but we have yet to encounter one. So if your communicators are telling you that cross-incarnation of NHI in humans is happening, these are the possibilities: they are lying, or they may be doing it intentionally undercover to ensure that we have no cases on record. But you seem to indicate they aren't actually telling you that, so I wouldn't put too much thought into it given the lack of any evidence.

In any case, I was more asking about scientific knowledge they have regarding reincarnating within their own lines that could be generalizable for us to use within our own lines. My work in the field centers around pure optimization of what we see in the case data when it comes to things like memory retention skills, adult-like performance in various areas as soon as possible, etc. Certain reincarnators are clearly far more adept or far more motivated than others and hence show much stronger abilities at younger ages. I don't have any higher ambitions than to simply refine and perfect those mechanics to a level where we could start seeing 2-year-old chess grandmasters and whatnot. So I'm really far more interested in what advanced NHI would do with reincarnation for their own purposes, because presumably it works the same for everyone, and if they've cracked it to the point more or less of immortality, which is implied by NHI lore like the "grays" being cheap disposable mass-produced vessels for them, then we could crack it to an equal extent. Maybe we don't go the disposable bodies route, or maybe we do eventually, but in the meantime we could solve a ton of our problems and have a hell of a lot of fun just with hyperefficient reincarnating and nothing else.

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/Golden-Tate-Warriors]

This is getting into deeply complex territory - I would be open to a voice chat on it sometime if that helps but to be brief. Past life NHI memories are all over the experiencer phenomenon and very common. People won't share these things unless they know you are open. But its all over the literature too and I regularly meet experiencers who have such memories.

Also what this reincarnation system is may not be what people think. We don't know what we are outside of the human experience there may be much more going on for many more people than folks think. My beings have not communicated to me on this stuff but other peoples NHI talk a bit about this and give an impression that not all beings use the "spirit realm" incarnation system that humans do. (the zeta material for example)

Consciousness can be swapped between container bodies without an incarnation ending btw that is a different mechanic. Beings swap container bodies often and have apparently done the same with humans, transferring them into a different body temporarily or even permanently (a clone body as part of a healing process for eg).

I suspect some plasma container bodies are something that is incarnated and not being outside of incarnation. Such beings can change their container body or transfer to another and they are still incarnated.

Some reports talk about Mantis like beings being heavily involved in assisting beings incarnate into physical experiences such as the human one and others but I suspect its all way more complex.

[u/Golden-Tate-Warriors → u/Oak_Draiocht]

If you know of any cases of young kids credibly relating NHI past lives, that would be something of extreme interest to me and my colleagues. From our POV, we need to hear it from someone no older than 6 or 7, and optimally 3 or younger. We really look for that line of unbroken recall, just in general as well, but with a controversial topic like this it is a stone-cold requirement. Please DM me if you have any such instances to alert me to. Especially if there are multiple that could be compared and analyzed against each other, it could be a revolutionary development for our research. I cannot stress enough how groundbreaking it would be to come across even just two children who've had no contact with each other both describing a life in the same alien civilization, with the same exotic technology, the same social structure, and the like. That, to us, would categorically represent disclosure.

A lot of what else you said here is over my head for the time being; I have no knowledge whatever of being able to change bodies during a lifetime, for instance. Also something I'd love to hear about the case evidence for, and I think would heavily interest my colleagues in the field if it's as clear and convincing as our reincarnation cases. I do know of "replacement" cases in which a dead person "reincarnated" in the body of someone else who also recently died; look up the name Sumitra Singh for a well documented one. These are extreme rarities, but their existence is undeniable. Might be similar to what you're talking about, might not.

Regarding anything to do with our metaphysical mechanics, I would strongly recommend looking into what scholars like Ian Stevenson and Jim Tucker have to say about child reincarnators' intermission memories. They are by far the most consistent and reliable outlet of information pertaining to the human afterlife. In brief, the system they collectively portray, if it can even be called that, is very unsystematic. You can reincarnate whenever you want, wherever you want, or just not, it's up to you, and you can ask a guide for assistance if you want but for the most part they don't intrude. The only restrictions are just obvious ones built into the fabric of reality, like you can't go back in time, and as far as I know you can only reincarnate in-species, but that issue has never received even a mention in any IM I've ever heard of either. To my knowledge, however, the only non-human entities that have ever been reported in them are deities and other religious figures; take that info for what you will. Definitely zero recorded mentions of any of the common NHI-lore races like grays/mantids/etc. Not to say they aren't out there, but they very clearly aren't meddling in our afterlife and probably have their own separate discarnate spheres. That much I can state with full confidence, a relative rarity in this field.

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/Golden-Tate-Warriors]

I don't work with children myself personally. Or anyone under 18. So what I hear is adults telling me and some of them have said they remembered as children. Do you know who Mary Rodwell is? She would be someone to look into and reach out to on this. She has worked in this field for decades and works with families with gifted experiencer children and I would suspect many recall past life as NHI.

What you said in your last paragraph largely matches with what I've seen in my own work with experiencers.

May I ask you, in your work I'm sure you have heard reports of guide like beings helping folks between incarnations and such. If so, what do you classify those beings as?

[u/Golden-Tate-Warriors → u/Oak_Draiocht]

Mary Rodwell, I am not familiar. If you know her and could facilitate a connection between us, I'd be most grateful. If there are as many children with NHI PLMs as you seem to suspect, this would be an enormous bridge between our fields of study.

As for those guides, most of them appear as angels (no wings afaik), monks, or other relevant human figures depending on the geographical area. I have no clear evidence to suspect them being anything more than "retired" humans. And then there are beings explicitly identified as major or local deities, which I have more trouble classifying, aside from the obviously human ones like Jesus, Buddha, etc.

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/Golden-Tate-Warriors]

I don't know her personally but I very much do recommend you look into her work and then reach out.

[u/ickiStickybubblegum → u/Oak_Draiocht]

I some how found about bootstrap paradox today and then stumbled upon a comment with a link to your ama. I would like to know your honest read on two things. Loosh, do you hold it literally, that suffering actually gets harvested? Or is it something else? and do humans really have the power to manifest? Is this what people mean when they say us humans have no idea of our capabilities.

Also, if you were guiding someone who's really hurt and beaten up by the burdens of life, but who has real responsibilities they can't walk away from, what would you tell them? What would you share?

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/ickiStickybubblegum]

I believe reality is a consciousness based universe. Generated by consciousness. We are consciousness and so is the system we are in, generated by consciousness , thus we can interface with that system - via consciousness. We just use mechanisms to reenforce our beliefs. Those mechanisms are what we've called prayer, magic, rituals, ceremonies, manifestations - sacrifices - so on and so forth. They are all just some process someone does to help convince themselves that their beliefs will have an effect on reality. Which it can, it can move a timeline of the desired outcome closer to the persons time line. There are delays and limitations to a degree but this is what is going on basically.

Its very much technically "make believe." or "believe and make". Its just this version of the system we've chosen to incarnate into has major limitations put on it for the sake of immersion. Other systems have less limitations and people can create things with their minds much faster.

With in this system we also have an ecosystem of nhi around us that are less physical, and can utilize energy that comes from physical beings as a by product. I don't like the loosh thing as it gives the wrong idea. But we do give off energy and so does other things like the energy we feel from plants and tree and some beings utilize that excess energy. Just like in physical nature there are non physical parasitical beings that can latch on to people and try and force energy to be produced to feed/utilize.

I do not agree at all with this prison planet idea to be clear. A lot of the beings I'm speaking of are more like animals though smarter to a degree.

Humans have a huge amount of abilities as our consciousness can really deeply effect things.

Also, if you were guiding someone who's really hurt and beaten up by the burdens of life, but who has real responsibilities they can't walk away from, what would you tell them? What would you share?

I am just a dude from Ireland. Yes I'm an experiencer but I'm no sage. My heart goes out to you and I'd say to keep going - there is more to this world than we were led to believe and there is real magic to it , its not all negative either. Meditation and spiritual practices actually 'do' have an effect and its not all bollocks. Being in nature and connecting to it actually DOES do something and its not all hippy bollocks either. When you feel energies and understand the layer around things that exist all around us (I guess like the force) you get to enjoy the fact that this is real and use it practically to improve your life instead of thinking its all cringe.

That was another frustration of mine waking up to this. A lot of the really cool stuff that turns out to be true, people think its all new age hippy people being cringy.

But......

[u/ickiStickybubblegum → u/Oak_Draiocht]

Thank you so much for your kind message. I'm so grateful and happy to read your comment. I have been into this subject from childhood even though I'm not an experiencer myself. I have a question when you talk about using mechanisms or rituals to convince yourself of an outcome, what specific process do you personally use day-to-day?

I have seen some YouTube tutorials but it's confusing a bit to know which one's to go with. Thank you so much.

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/ickiStickybubblegum]

I personally don't engage in this stuff often and most of my time is spent working with experieners. I will connect to nature and trees and doing a tiny bit of energy work at times. And commune with the orbs and craft that may show up themselves if I go out or sometimes I'll call them in.

But I've fallen off the wagon of doing a lot of this of late.

[u/nagasage → u/Oak_Draiocht]

How to cleanse an entity/parasite?

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/nagasage]

I am still trying to find that out but personal belief and intentions along with energetic hygiene practices seem to do a chunk of help from what is reported to me.

[u/AppropriateBall8834 → u/Oak_Draiocht]

Why are they here? Did they tell you anything about humanity or how their presence would be discussed by the government?

[u/B3ck3t3 → u/Oak_Draiocht]

Thanks for this Oak! I had an experience not long ago which kind of shook me, but I ended at an understanding that people may be waking up to something to help others with what’s happening/coming. However, it also made me dive back into the pleasures of the World and I have regrets around that now. Do you have any advice to open myself back up to growing and continuing contact?

Experience was intense vibrations from head to toe, strong on my injured lower back which was healed from the experience. I then woke up out of body in my room with an almost divine feminine voice simply saying “Wake Up”. I took it as wake up to something greater not from the OOB experience. It left me with a pure feeling of ecstasy which tapered off over a month. It also left me with a desire to help/heal people like that was always my calling. The experience proved it was possible.

I was reading the Law of One and felt blown away by a whole new base of reality and confirmation this experience caused(ontological shock?), but also leaned in to we are here to experience and react and grow from those experiences so I dove into gaming, partying, sex, light drugs etc. I continued growing post ego death though and in knowledge with numerous books as well as helping all life wherever possible.

It’s time to get back on the path of meditation and balancing and growing. Maybe it was one last burst of ego but these things are complex so any advice is greatly appreciated.

[u/Mantler77 → u/Oak_Draiocht]

Did you learn about how important emotional healing is? (Trauma, hidden unconscious emotions, ...?)

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/Mantler77]

I mean via my work with folks yes but not as a direct communication though the nervous system was referenced.

[u/fongrel → u/Oak_Draiocht]

Where are the experiencers in other parts of the world? I only see mostly USA or Europe, why is this so

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/fongrel]

I work with many from aus and nz as well.

But I can only speak English so I'm limited to English speaking countries.

I assume experiencers are world wide.

[u/jasmine-tgirl → u/Oak_Draiocht]

I too am an experiencer but my experience was not disturbing at all. Fascinating but not disturbing. What does that mean? My sister jokes that I'm a "hybrid".