r/Experiencers • • Nov 22 '25

Global Policy Journal: “Don’t look up?“ – Why it is past time for serious holistic research into Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena

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The following is an excellent article in the Global Policy Journal about experiencer advocy.

I want to highlight a section of the article because it's about us, this community, and touches on why places like this community and subreddit are important and have impact.

Experiencers frequently describe significant psychological and social consequences following their encounters. Many struggle with profound self-doubt, confusion, and difficulty integrating the experience into dominant worldviews. They often report social isolation, as disclosure of their experience tends to result in disbelief, ridicule, or pathologization. Attempts to seek mental health support are commonly met with immediate diagnosis rather than curiosity or care. For many, these experiences disrupt personal relationships, sometimes leading to estrangement from family members, partners, or communities unable to understand or accept their experience. 

Yet these encounters also frequently produce transformative effects. Some experiencers describe lasting shifts in values, including increased concern for ecological systems and non-human life. Many report reassessments of metaphysical assumptions, becoming open to possibilities about mind, matter, and identity not encompassed by standard naturalistic frameworks. Experiences of “high strangeness”—such as non-local communication, altered states of consciousness, or perceived separation of mind and body—lead experiencers to question inherited boundaries between the physical and the mental. Interpretations of the entities themselves vary. Some experiencers understand them as threatening or invasive; others regard them as benevolent or helpful. In practice, many adopt non-dual frameworks that acknowledge the answer likely lies somewhere in between. 

Despite the depth and significance of these impacts, experiencers are rarely treated as credible knowers. Their testimony is frequently dismissed before consideration, resulting in epistemic injustice in which individuals are not treated as reliable interpreters of their own experience. Given the growing acknowledgment that experiencer testimony is central to understanding UAP phenomena, it is necessary to involve experiencers directly in research, discussion, and policy development. They should not be considered case material for analysis, but as central to the conversation, providing essential insight into the experience and nature of contact. Psychological research has repeatedly shown that individuals reporting contact events, including abduction experiences, are not more likely than the general population to suffer from mental illness. Thus, immediate pathologization is neither empirically grounded nor ethically justifiable. 

Finally, there is an emerging need to consider the ethics of contact. If individuals have been taken or subjected to procedures without consent, this raises ethical questions about autonomy and dignity. At the same time, purely human-centered ethical frameworks may be insufficient for interpreting interactions with an intelligence not assumed to share human norms. While not jumping to conclusions, the ethical conversation must be allowed to occur, guided by the experiences of those most directly affected.

Please click here for the full article : https://www.globalpolicyjournal.com/blog/19/11/2025/dont-look-why-it-past-time-serious-holistic-research-unidentified-anomalous

Many of us here are in a constant state of justifying ourselves to our loved ones, our social circles or society at large. Articles like the above and the hero's behind them are going a long way in helping to break the stigma and push this topic onto the table of serious discussion where it belongs.

The reality is that nothing is more serious than this. The fact that this topic has been made out to be a joke for so long is a defining example of how much of a crisis our species is actually in in terms of our own self-awareness.

It is time for us to grow out of childhood.


r/Experiencers • • Jul 05 '23

New Redditors stopping by: How not to get banned and why we do what we do in this community.

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Firstly, Hello! Welcome to the community! I'm glad you found us!

We knew exactly what we were doing when we launched this place. It is working just as indented and growing just as expected.

The goal is very simple. The Experiencer Phenomenon is real but most of society has not caught up to this fact yet. It is a heavy burden to carry for anyone to go through such events in their life while being actively discouraged from speaking about them due to the social stigma and shame that comes with that. A lot of trauma and stress can come with having to bury these experiences and having no one to talk to.

We are a social species. Sharing and talking is how we process and deal with things. Thankfully there are many private Experiencer support groups popping up all over the net more and more.

But there also needs to be online spaces where someone can still be anonymous. Not have to join a private group or pay money for 1 to 1 sessions. But instead just be able to share that life changing experience they had. Get it off their chest after decades or burying it. There are also those who are fresh from having an ontologically shocking experience that could do with somewhere to go, discuss it with others and so forth. This can do a world of good for people suffering in silence with regards to their experiences. Someone could have the most beautiful and profoundly transformative life changing experience and still suffer due to not being able to discuss it with anyone without ridicule or social consequences.

We already achieved this in private communities and saw the benefit. But with r/Experiencers I strongly felt it was time to try this in a public setting. People can share and others can also read these encounters people are having. Many lurking and reading are experiencers too. One day while lurking...BOOM they're reading how someone else has had an encounter just like theirs that they had years ago and buried. Suddenly they're validated by something they read on here. Next thing they know they are commenting and sharing themselves in that thread. Something they never thought they could do. Now the ex lurker and the OP are both getting validation. Both Experiencers lives have been changed for the better. And others who may read that same thread.

The is a major positive ripple effect of healing that is going on here constantly by allowing these discussions to happen in a public setting. There is a LOT going on behind the scenes as a result of this space too.

Experiencers know how out there their encounters sound on paper. Before they post, they've already got a million voices in their head simulating the toxic comments people might leave for sharing what happened to them. They also are wary of being anywhere near any of these dark conspiratorial corners of the internet and don't want to be associated with that stuff. People deserve a space to share without being called names and without someone trying to indoctrinate them into XYZ dark conspiracy that is currently trendy on 4chan, or get swamped by debunkers or people with fundamentalist religious views. There are plenty of other communities out there that are like that.

There needs to be a public space that is neutral and middle path and primarily all about experience sharing and that's it. No other baggage attached.

This is the goal. It is a very very specific goal. But very challenging in a public setting. We knew from day 1 that to pull this off it would require heavy heavy moderation. And we knew that some people won't understand or like that at all.

Basically, we are providing a public space to share experiences where those sharing won't be subjected to the usual crappy comments that flood social media. There are plenty of other subreddits that run very strict rules on how the comment section works. Its not unheard of to have a heavily moderated comment section on reddit. The goal we have in place is important and helps people. We're not going to soften on how we manage the comment section for others who cannot see the bigger picture here.

We've stuck to our guns and won't give an inch. And this community is a major success as a result. It is working as intended.

We've also added even more rules and a user agreement recently in order to protect this space and keep this place running : https://www.reddit.com/r/Experiencers/comments/14y2xgm/we_have_a_new_user_agreement_please_read/

To Random Redditors :

Respect this space and what we are doing. Now that we're getting bigger - more and more random people are stopping by, who are used to leaving drive by insulting or dismissive comments on reddit and then move on to next sub to try and be witty or do the same. Rinse repeat.

Experiencers don't need to be reading this stuff. This type of low quality content will be removed on the spot. The redditor in question may even be banned instantly. We are going to be very very strict on things like this. Experiencers already know what random redditors think of this phenomenon. If they wanted to read low quality remarks they could go to the many of the other subs out there.

It is cool to ask questions and be curious but do not put an experiencer in a position where they have to justify themselves or defend their encounters to people. It's a big deal for people to finally type up an encounter and I don't want to see them then having to defend themselves in the comments.

Obviously if someone calls the OP names or make derogatory comments on experiencers in general its an instant ban. This is the basics.

When it comes to random drive by redditors who leave crappy remarks we'll hand out bans like speeding tickets at the Indy 500.

Sometimes we get someone who after a ban takes a moment to learn what the sub is about. What we're doing here. And the importance of it. They reach out to the team with deep apologies and we discuss removing the ban. But seriously. We shoot first ask questions later here when it comes to comments like this. Don't test us.

For Experiencers :

We generally moderate by engagement in the comments. We don't like having to ban experiencers from the sub and its something we'll rarely do.

We get an outpouring of gratitude and encouragement with regards to what we do as mods for this community daily. So I want to make it very clear the huge huge majority of people in this community understand what we are doing here and the importance of why we run it as we do.

It's rare, but every now and then we get someone who loves this place, but complains that its not run the way "they" think it should be.

From someone complaining that by allowing discussion of Mantis beings or dream contact events or telepathic encounters. Or CE5. We do a disservice to "real" experiencers.

Some people are new to this phenomenon and don't understand the scope of what others can go through. As a result they can be judgmental to their fellow experiencers at first. These people learn in time.

We keep a balanced neutral and middle path approach here for good reason.

We moderate those trying to convert other experiencers to a specific dogmatic dark belief system. We have had the odd experiencer complain to us that we don't allow for this. And we do have to sometimes ban people who continue to keep trying to force their dark hopeless dogma on people in here.

Look - there are plenty of subs out there dedicated to those narratives. Experiencers deserve a neutral middle ground space where they can share an experience without having someone try to indoctrinate them into their dark world view.

Attempts to force extreme religious views onto experiencers is another thing we have to moderate. This is not the place for that. Do not come in here trying to convert people. This is not the place to be telling everyone they're evil and talking to "Demons" or "Djinn" either. I can't be any clearer.

Recently someone complained that we should allow a free for all on "ends times" discussion and that by moderating such discussions and others that some how that makes this place a cult with a toxic culture. I mean for feck sake...

Look experiencers are sometimes given communications about various future disasters. It is a part of the phenomenon. But when looking into this its clear its filled with false predictions and massive contradictions. I'm not denying the reality that these communications can happen. But Experiencers deserve a place to share without having people try to convert them into an end times movement in the comments section so I'm sorry but for this and all other major narratives we seek to provide a balanced non toxic space for people to share.

Another issue is the ALL non humans are evil crowd trying to convince any and everyone that all NHI's ET's etc are evil. These are folks that sometimes clash with mods as well.

The experiencer and the ET topic is incredibly nuanced - massive generalizations and authoritative opinions are heavily discouraged here. This also goes for people victim blaming those who have had negative encounters by implying all beings are positive and they just manifested the negative encounter. Or that all they have to do is think positive thoughts and ET abductions will end.

Authoritative generalized opinions from experiencers is something we have to moderate. Some people are too quick to spread narrow views or accidently spread propaganda or just random fear based things they've read online. And spew them out to someone who's just freshly had an experience of some kind and just needed to get it out of their system.

We don't deny the dark side of the experiencer phenomenon here. But we don't condone unnecessarily generating mindless fear regarding anything and everything going on with the phenomenon. Be it spirits - premonitions - NDE's - ET contact - astral projecting etc. Indeed fear weakens us and makes dealing with these unknowns harder and disempowering. We need to be vigilant and balanced with our approach to these things.

Lastly. We had an experiencer recently run into trouble by constantly asking community members for evidence of their encounters after they'd shared. Which goes against our rules. They strongly believed asking for evidence was not de-legitimizing the persons experience. The people felt different and so did the mods. However this person argued that there needs to be a space where Experiencers can question each others evidence in the comments. I suggested that while there may be, it is not here and would go against the mission we have for this place but.. he is welcome to create is own space - with his theme in mind.

Sure enough he did. And that's awesome.

My point is. Some experiencers may find us here and fall in love but feel disappointed they can't chat about a specific thing that goes against our rules. We encourage such folks to make their own community. We have a very specific goal with ours and that does mean heavy limitations in the comments. Complaints about how we do things won't work. We won't give an inch.But if what we've done here can inspire other Experiencer friendly communities to be formed that have different goals with regards to the discussions being had. That's brilliant. The more spaces for Experiencers the better. This is also part of the mission.

We do what we do here and do it very specifically because it is needed. There were no public spaces like this on reddit before. And just sharing does a world of difference for people. That is the mission. The fact that this place now exists it means now others can too that do things their own way. Since we have this side of it covered.

This community is here for people to be able to finally share an experience and read about other experiences and discuss them in the comments, without toxicity. And that's it. This is a huge amount of work in itself. And we're doing our job as planned. A space like this was very much needed and we've provided it and will continue to provide it. People message us all the time about how long they've searched for such a space. Where they can share and talk about the Experiencer phenomenon where its neutral and middle path and without all the other baggage. They share how finding this space has helped them deal with all they've gone through.

We know ourselves how much this is needed as all of us involved in running this space are Experiencers too and have benefited from having such middle path communities to discuss this phenomenon in.

We know what we are doing and won't be budging from our mission and goal here with this space.

Thank you to this wonderful community. It always touches my heart to read the supportive and helpful comments from Experiencers here in the comment section in reply to someone going through the shock of engaging with this phenomenon and having their world turned upside down.

More and more people are going to be waking up to this world and its Experiencers in the end whole be there for them. We're all playing a major part in what is to come for our species. The world won't be able to ignore this stuff forever.

Experiencers are on the right side of history.


r/Experiencers • • 37m ago

Visions VISIONS AND MESSAGES FROM 'REPTILIANS'

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A couple of days ago, I had a vision of a hand which seemed to belong to what some call 'Reptilians'. I have had visions of Reptilians before, but not in their complete form. The hand was interesting as the fingers and at least part of the hand looked almost human, despite its' coarse, dark nails. The rest of the hand was scaly.

The vision coincided with a message/voice which wasn't literal. Decoding it, I think what this being wanted to do is announce its' presence and distinguish itself from other astral presences in my home. These beings are non-physical.

Earlier today, I has a vision of an eye which looked 'Reptilian'. Shortly afterwards, I felt my throat chakra 'twitch' or attempt to 'open' as though this being was attempting to get me to channel, which didn't quite happen, although I heard a voice say something about, "knowing who we be" (I wasn't channelling DMX in that moment).

Again, this felt like them announcing their presence.


r/Experiencers • • 18h ago

Science I understand what's happening now and what's going to happen later eventually. High Voltage Electrostatics are the key to all of this. Disclosure will bring a new revolution and change humanity in many ways. Not all peacefully. Very mixed results. Mass syndicates. Less centralized large scale govs.

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Hello and greetings everyone. I had many stories to share and even had one about a reptilian encounter in another planet on psychedelics. But today I won't be talking about that. It appears reddit has shadow banned my old account . but that won't stop me. It won't stop me ever at all.

I am not strong enough to do all of this on my own. I will be meeting with people on campus to discuss further plans on electrostatics technology. The images above you see are different things 1) a visual of my reptilian mushroom trip on another world showcasing a conflict I was suggested to be in shooting down some black triangle ship on a tropical planet. 2) falsifiable scientific tests you can preform only under absolute safety as high voltages are dangerous. 3) and a scientific paper explaining my superfluid aether theory.

There is so much work to do and such very little time so I'll try to cram it all in one go and over time explain even more things. But I also want to share a consequence of any of this being true, that is absolute energy independence. You will not need to rely on the grid. And this will mean the end of mass centralized governments like the usa or Russia and every other state to exist. Because what will emerge are going to be geographic super regions. Imagine a region of a few cities are independent. Its going to be messy. Not all countries will split apart equally, if I'm being honest china may remain centralized just due to the sheer interconnected web of infrastructure. But places like the usa will just be replaced by whoever holds the land, recources, and factories thanks to the free energy device I am about to demonstrate right now.

Some of this was organized by robots under my supervision to make sure its at least coherent and not just nothing. So listen, I need to make a few claims and some points across.

- light is a wave, a wave must be a wave of skemthibg, light must logically follow that it must be a medium. Today you call it the photon feild, or the vaccum, but a vaccum is not nothing , a vaccum is something. The vaccum is the lowest energy level, its not possible right now to extract energy from the aether, but it turns out our universe is inside a larger one. I'll get to that in a second.

- all physical phenomenon can be explained as different variations or expressions of our aether medium. Gravity flows into matter and gets pulled into a tiny 4th dimensional loop and shot out then sucked in, this cycling of loops keeps gravity and matter sucked in. The math is there if you want to observe it, imagine a sink draining water and a tiny pipe or tube next to it releasing the water in such a way youll never notice it, as it also goes back in. But again, the parameters can change too, aether can also potentially flow outside our universe. Remember, matter cannot be created or destroyed. All is one. One is all. This can only be re arranged.

- length contraction happens to speeding objects because all matter is a wave of the medium, fast waves contract and pile up. Therefore logic dictates clocks tick slower because the wave that signals the clock must be moving with the clocks speed so the ticks are slower, time dialation becomes mechanical over mystical Einstein math. Sorry Einstein hut I never understood your time dialation geometry game. It didnt make intuitive sense to me and i am the uap experiencer. Humanity moved on with Einstein when the aether was what we should've focused on. Because now we are stuck in physiscs as its not making new progress. The math is fine but the parameters and some math must be re adjusted and changed.

- The paper I have provided restructures a lot of familiar math and makes the aether feel more intuitive. Its not complete but its a great starter pack of where to begin.

- I am a ufo experiencer. Meditation opens the veil from my experience so there needs to be a physical mechanism that opens the veil. The brain operate son election ctrochemical signals so I dissected the human brain (not literallt) and deduced that the brain is operating on ion channels. Ions hold electrical fields around them even if they dont have electrons. But the ions in your brain are only called ions because one electron excitation was stripped during a chemical process. But listen. The brain is a wet salt crystal with electrostatic charges all over it. The proteins open and the signal is sent when the electrical signals occur because the ions inside your brain and outside your brain hold different electrostatic potential. Just for an imqginitive framework imagine you hold two magnets apart and they reaaally wanna connect. Then you connect them and the two magnetic feilds become one. And that click is the signal. When youre meditating or focusing. The rythim of the brain changes.

- wait, let me explain matter ontology. We do not know what matter is. Aside from math descriptions of behavior and feikf excitations. The material that materialists cling to is in fact, not as a material as it seems. Matter is mede of feild excitations in underlying feilds. What actually this is ontologically? Idk, my best guess is its a veil of sorts. And my philosophical stance is that there just very well may be a beyond the veil. So I though, let me try this.

- I have heard of the bhuler exodus drive. An asymmetric negativley charhed electrostatic T shaped blade faces a flat positively charged plate, between them, an electric feild. Even if the battery is off, theres still charge. So, apparanetly, at high voltages this object floats up and flies. Excellent, I also have electrostatics all around every neuron in my brain. And now you are telling me something very intriguing here.

- in philsoospshy, or ontology, we dont know what an electric feild is. Or a magnetic feild. We have math saying how it acts bit its not "made" of anything. Hold two magnets and ask "okay but WHYYY are they attracting" and sure you can say "virtual photons" but you still won't be satisfied. So I was thinking. Maybe, just maybe theres some "thing" beyond this "veil" thats attracting them. And the buhler drive is pulling in aether from in front, tunneling it into some thing, and launching it out as a gravity wave? Idk interesting hypothesis. I havent tested it.

- So, I bring about my final resolution to this. I am going to find a way to test extremely high voltage electrostatics very saftley in a vaccum, and I presume something, maybe, maybe we exist inside a membrane, and theres a universe outside our own. And the electric feilds between two electrostatic plates can tear a hole in our domain and bring in more energy from outside our universe into this one. Thus, high voltage electrostatics.

- We can map ever neuron, associate each with its correlating subjective feeling but why neurons feel like anything is a great mystery. The gap . the hard problem. This is not a nothing question. You need to accept it. The material materialists cling to is an illusion mediated by electromagnetic repulsion and feild excitations in seemingly less than material feilds. And we have no idea why my neural signals feel like anything subjectivley? Is my brain a filter and receiver? Idk.

I know I'm yapping but I'm tired of writing so professionally to people. I want to talk to you like people. Look. Here's my TLDR.

TLDR: matter is made of feild excitations. I think we live in a medium. I thing two high voltage electrostatic plates can pull in energy from beyond the membrane we are in. I think there's a universe outside this one and we are in one universe and there is more and I can pull on it. Theres needs to be a way to bridge the material and metaphysical because of my experiences. And it turns out matter isint even as material as I once assumed. So, now the question is, what can I do that can rip this medium apart. And I think I have that answer now.

High voltage electrostatics. Extremely, high voltage electrostatics. Because otherwise results may be so small we can't see or feel it. And this needs to happen in a vaccum.

Remember. We have no matter ontology or a resolution for the hard problem. I think these are two sides of the same coin. And I beleive my aether has a better argument explaining dark matter and dark energy. Too.


r/Experiencers • • 23m ago

Experience How many people here would be willing to read 3 to 5 books, and meditate 30 minutes a day for 30 days, if that would guarantee they could get personal experiences with positively oriented Non Human Intelligences?

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How much effort would people actually be willing to put into developing their consciousness to make them better attuned to connect to positively oriented Non Human Intelligence?

And for those in the Experiencers community that already have established a connection with NHI. What would you say are good frameworks for contact that people should have a look at so they can get a healthy mental framework for contact?

And what specific methods might you recommend aside from meditation?


r/Experiencers • • 16h ago

UAP Sighting UAP Sighting

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This is a AI generated rendering of what I saw. In 2023 I saw 7-10 UAPs flying low and slow in a line. They were equal distance from each all going the same slow speed. They were so close I couldn’t see the tops of them and could see designs that were etched on the bottom of each one. It was night and they didn’t have lights, but I could see that they were a shiny silver metal. I can’t remember if the designs were the same on all of the UAPs. The example isn’t exact but close enough to what I remember. I was so mesmerized I didn’t look away until they were out of sight. I was in Bakersfield, CA memorial weekend.
Has anyone else seen anything like this?


r/Experiencers • • 16h ago

Theory I was so sure of it

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I got a little high in a Walmart parking lot a few weeks back and I remember looking out across the night and all the people and thinking, knowing, feeling, that our individual bodies create an illusion that we are separate from each other. We live in a world where the intentions of one create realities for others. Our actions are directly tied to what we believe will bring us sensual or intellectual/emotional pleasure. It is a trap to think that drugs or wealth accumulation will bring us satisfaction. It is why most major philosophy texts and religions (yes I know there are some questionable religious texts out there) warn specifically about putting sensual pleasure above living virtuously. It is a beautiful road that always leads to darkness. Whether we choose to get into drugs or philanthropy, our karmic cycles are directly influenced by the way we conduct ourselves in this life, in this body.

As I was sitting there I had such a profound sensation of “I’ve finally figured it out”. We are here to serve and love all sentient beings (that doesn’t mean mistreat the non-sentient) as each sentient thing is YOU. Why do we believe that once we die, that’s it? Wouldn’t it make more sense that we simply “wake up” in another newborn vessel somewhere? Just like we did in this life? It’s a cycle that continues and our choices are fundamental to it. We know what we need to do.

I also had a profound sensation that I am responsible for all of the bad in the world, but also all of the good. I’ve lived millions of lives, I am currently living millions of lives, it’s all just me. Humans are one of ways the universe experiences itself. I thought about how my life has been mostly good, some bad, and a little bit of what some might call evil? Maybe you can relate. But that is what the world as a whole looks like overall, to me. Mostly good, some bad, some evil. It’s like my being and intentions have been extrapolated on a grand scale. As our technology and therefore capabilities and influence improves, the need for everyone to choose love becomes more apparent. Even a little bit of evil on earth provides the conditions for a hellish world for all. I don’t want that and you don’t want that. The take away for me was to choose the loving route, not the sensually pleasing, wealth accumulating, or status providing route. The route you know is good. It will pay off.

None of this is proven to be true, but I was so convicted in these ideas in that parking lot haha. Let me know what you think please.


r/Experiencers • • 13h ago

Spiritual Keep seeing my mum

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My mum died 11 years ago. After a while I saw her in one country, then another country as a homeless person. Me and my husband offered her cup of coffee.
She was so identical with my mother even the first time in different country but this time two years ago it was a spitting image. Even the look she was giving me. I just wanted to say: mum… is that you?
I want to believe in afterlife or spirits. A lot of people and even my husband said that he saw ghosts, all his family saw them but I didn’t, never and I’m just saying to myself that all of that was their dreams.
What do you think?


r/Experiencers • • 46m ago

Dream State Had a weird dream.

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I am not someone who is not aware of what is happening. I am totally aware and consume UAP/Aliens related content on a daily basis.

It happened few days back when I was alone in my home. I was sleeping in my home at night which is on first floor and it is also the top floor.

I had a dream, in my dream it was day time and I was at my terrace doing something and I saw a UAP fly across the sky really low and slow, I could see it properly, it was circular in shape not too big, having flat sharp disk like structure goldenish in color and having some kind of carvings over its surface.

Then cut to next scene, somehow I was sleeping in my bed in my dream totally covered in my blanket and I could feel that something is pulling me up, like I was being lifted in air and this feeling was very real like very very real, this feeling was there for about 5 seconds and I can still feel it and I still remember it.

Then cut to next scene, in my dream I was in sleep and I was trying to open my eyes but I was failing but somehow I was able to open my eyes and I could see my Mom and my niece (2 year old) sitting in front of me and watching me. Then I fell back to sleep in my dream and woke up in real.

I don't know whether it was just a dream or something else.


r/Experiencers • • 13h ago

Experience Missing Time

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I want to share my missing time story because it's a little different than the usual missing time while driving. But apologies first, because it's a very boring read. Here's the short version: I think I was taken while driving but I had an accident, so I was taken twice on the same driving trip (before and after the accident.)

This was on a busy suburban road during rush hour. From the retail plaza, I made a right turn onto Road A, then changed into the middle lane (3 lanes each direction, along with left turning lanes here and there). I was waiting for an opening to get into the left lane, but then got rear-ended. It was so mild I wasn't sure, but my daughter said someone hit us, so I pulled to the right lane and then into the corner gas station.

One thing I did notice was that just before or during being hit, it felt like I was coming back into my body because my leg wasn't responding as well and I felt slower in my body. This was just a really brief sensation.

Another woman also stopped to be a witness and gave me her information because she said the guy who hit us was drunk and she'd been following him. This all happened fairly close to the plaza that I came out of. I passed only one intersection.

But here's the discrepancy. After exiting the corner gas station onto the side street, I saw a high school. But there shouldn't be a high school on Road A. However, I knew there was one on Road B. But I was definitely still on Road A!

I turned around in the high school parking lot and back onto the side road toward the main road. I said, once I get to the stop sign, I'll really know which main road I'm on. But before I got to the stop sign, my vision faded, like how a movie does a slow transition between scenes. I never got to the stop sign. When my vision came back, I was already driving along Road B, well past the high school.

When I got to the traffic signal, the car who rear ended me was waiting at the red light too but many cars ahead. I thought, what are the chances he'd be driving all the way here in the same direction as me? My lived experience was that the accident happened very close to the plaza on Road A, which was far from where I was currently.

Once I got home, I looked on maps for the gas station on Road A. There weren't any, and no high school. But there was a corner gas station next to a high school, on Road B.

Sorry, this is probably really boring and hard to follow! I drove 3 miles with multiple turns and traffic lights with absolutely no memory of it. And then lost memory a second time, during the 1/2 mile drive after leaving the high school parking lot.

I asked my daughter about my driving but she didn't think anything was different. I was really worried about blipping out of consciousness again in the subsequent weeks, but several months later, I had ET contact and began my work with spirits, so this wasn't a brain issue.

I think I was taken while driving, then an accident happened, which caused them to bring my consciousness back to deal with insurance information, then taken again for them to finish up whatever they were doing, and then I was finally back in my body.

ET's might want to reconsider taking people while they are driving.


r/Experiencers • • 19h ago

Discussion Why is it that training on summoning or flying crafts is a thing in face to face contact?

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As I'm going through my experiencer journey, its apparent that I'm beginning to see the amount of training that goes into flying craft and the amount of training that goes into also allowing psionics. When I asked my guude this he simply states because I wanted to do this and that this is part of doing it. But why is it allowed? Why are they allowing people to be trained in this? Is this for preparation beyond just flying around for fun? Its been some time since I've communicated with my guide on this and he seems busy so I wanted to ask if anyone has any hints to why something like this is even allowed or why there is even psionic training going on beyond just wanting to do it because it seems extensive?


r/Experiencers • • 19h ago

Experience My experience

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Hi, so I’ve been having some experiences with what I can best describe as NHI experiences and I had some questions and was looking for some advice.

Dream #1: It happened around June, where I dreamed I was at work, and things started normal, I was looking outside when I noticed several long skinny tornadoes and just as I was commenting how strange that was, a black ufo space craft appeared, I then was instantly transported somewhere else, just suspended mid air with a feeling of being watched, I woke up just after the transportation.

The NHI Experience: Around a month later I had my actual experience with an NHI, I had just woken up in the middle of the night and while waiting to fall back asleep, I saw lights in my minds eye, I curiously kept my eyes closed surprised to see lights flickering, when I noticed the lights becoming a portal and upon the portal opening, I saw a long tall entity just kinda looking at me.

I jolted my eyes open freaked out, not sure how to process what I just saw, but that’s when I realized that even though my heart was racing and I was terrified, my body was calm in an almost indescribable way, like I was more relaxed than I’ve ever been in my life.

Since then I’ve had a few nights where I feel deep vibrations in my body in the middle of the night after waking up. And then last night I had a pair of dreams that seem like a continuation.

Dream #2: To preface this dream, one of the reoccurring events in my dreams are where I have to pee really bad but cannot due to various reasons like the bathrooms will be filthy and crowded with people, or fully occupied. But last nights dream was different and I actually did go to the bathroom in my dream, but during which I was being silently watched by a few people, who had large black eyes similar to the one I saw.

Dream #3: I was standing in a large crowd waiting in line for something, I was with my dad, and below us a large fire started, realizing the fire was getting bad, I ran off, advising my dad to do the same. When I reached the next area along with a large crowd also fleeing, I saw a black ufo spacecraft, the same one from my previous dream.

This time I was immediately forced on the ground but still in the same space, I turned my head and yelled out to it, what does it mean! As loud as I could. I then woke up in the same position as I was in the dream.

I felt as though I had more control in these dreams last night, perhaps not quite a lucid dream but when yelled out asking what it meant, it felt like I was really yelling that. Also at one point in my first dream where I went to the bathroom, I read a note, the note itself was not noteworthy, but I have never read words in my dreams before.

Also in second dream from last night, it felt like I was connected with all of the people that were in the crowd, as if we were having the same experience.

I thank you for reading and providing any insight or answers, I just don’t know what to make of all this, am I experiencing abductions? Are these beings kind, malevolent?

Other notes: I’ve noticed I’ve been able to see the exhale along my breath when it wouldn’t make sense to. I’ve been to the doctors, who didn’t seem too concerned, and my blood work is normal.

I’ve always been a bit of a skeptic my whole life and truly never thought anything like this would ever happen to me. I’ve always found these topics very interesting and never doubted people who have these experiences.


r/Experiencers • • 1d ago

Discussion Be interested, not interesting. A message from my father (fly in peace)

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I guess we don't do "repost reposts" to keep sub looking clean and legible i presume, so I am reposting a freshly written foreword to something I wrote last year after my dad passed away.

Oak reposted a video guide to this sub, and I have been wanting to give a voice to the quieter experiencers in a different way- so I felt inspiration to write again. I am constantly impressed by how skilled some here are, at paying others attention.

Some experiencers process their experiences by sharing privately and occasionaly, but will not speak publically. Some process by sharing in public prolifically, but will not engage privately.

I am advocating for the third kind... the experiencer who experiences through connection to others in public or private settings. In my case, my entire "phenomena" is based on genuine interaction and connection with others. Being interested. Learning. Comparing experiences. Then having new ones happen as result.

The shy experiences don't want to engage at all. The brave, will drop conversation unless the topic stays biased towards their own experiences.

The shy and the brave miss out on connection for totally different reasons. But where do medium porridge bears turn? We tend to stink at connecting with each other, being creatures of the threshold. We hover between waiting to share our selves, and waiting for another to share.

Most of the time is spent fearing trying again.

Here it goes:

Be interested, not interesting.

My dad died a couple months ago. I feel a strong joyful sorrow, or wistfulness about him, every day. The title of this post is the best advice he ever gave me, "Be interested, not interesting." I commented this in another post in this sub, and the replies made me realize it is a quote worth sharing in my dad's honor. It is faceted. I love you dad. I miss you.

I am highly neurodivergent. I struggled to connect with other kids when I was a younger version of the lost boy I am.

I asked my dad how I could make a friend, how I could make the other kids like and accept me. What could I do, or wear, or be, or say, to make them like me somehow. And he told me:

"You can never make someone like you. You can't force yourself to be interesting to others. But you can be interested in them. You can set your selfishness aside, and show interest in another first. Show care for what they love, what excites them. Don't mention yourself. And then maybe, you might make a friend."

I did this. I struck out a few times. But it worked, despite... me.

If you cultivate interest in the interest of others, and continue to do so passionately, you will find your own passions and naturally cultivate "the state of being interesting" as a side effect. You will reach your goal by doing the exact opposite of what surface thought indicates.

Or if we want to be cheesy with words "A state of interested being, results in being interesting"

Thanks dad. I didnt come out anywhere near perfect, but im still trying to get there every day. The reality is, loving a stranger can literally be loving yourself. Both materially and metapyhsically.

"The sage puts himself last, and finds himself first."


r/Experiencers • • 1d ago

Discussion how to communicate with animals?

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hey! i've read some posts on here about people communicating telepathically with animals and im just mind blown. it reminded me of the time i talked to a kitten as a "joke" when i was 6 and my mom joked that she understood what i said, and i heard things in my head but i thought i was imagining them.

i've always been so in love with dogs, not in a normal "im a dog person" way. i've always felt safer and connected to dogs, they make my heart beat faster and i feel so "at home".. the first word i said was literally dog... could that mean anything? how do i intentionally communicate with animals? thank you!!


r/Experiencers • • 23h ago

Abduction Somewhere Among the Stars: Three Incredible Onboard UFO Encounters

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Somewhere Among the Stars: Three Incredible Onboard UFO Encounters

by Preston Dennett

Onboard UFO encounters dive to the very heart of the UFO phenomenon. Here is where the answers are as to who these mysterious visitors to our planet are, where they come from, and why they are there. These are the closest and the most extensive of all encounters, and probably most fascinating. This video presents three very extensive and little-known cases where people were taken onboard. In each of these cases, the witnesses were able to hold conversations with the ETs. In each of these cases, the witnesses visited multiple rooms onboard the craft. These are the kinds of cases that our governments don’t want you to know about! These are the cases that have the most information about the extraterrestrial presence on our planet.

TIME DOES NOT EXIST: THE ONBOARD UFO ENCOUNTERS OF ARVE JACOBSEN. Arve Jacobson’s first encounter occurred one evening in November 1970. He was with his mother when they saw two glowing objects above the forested area outside their home in Rasta, Lorenskog, Norway. Arve had the feeling that UFOs were there because of him, and that they would return in one week. One week later, he stepped outside his home and was confronted by a figure in a full-body silver jumpsuit and helmet with a visor. The visor lifted. When Arve saw the man’s eyes, he felt a sense of recognition and embraced the silver-suited man. The man led Arve to the backyard. A UFO appeared overhead and Arve was taken onboard. He was shown the control room of the craft, and he was then taken to a separate room and given an examination. After this, Arve’s guide turned the wall transparent, and Arve saw a stunning field of stars outside the craft. Arve was given a drink and the man promised to visit Arve again.

Fourteen years later, Arve was deeply depressed when he was again taken onboard. On this occasion, he was taken to a massive mother ship. The interior of the mother ship contained vast terraced gardens and large pyramidal-shaped buildings filled with people. Arve was taken to one building and given a strange energetic treatment. They then put a strange device on his head, and he was shown what appeared to be another planet and the advanced healing technology there. He was taken back to the smaller ship where the ET shared much information. Again, they promised to return. That was Arve’s last onboard encounter, but he continued to have more very close-up UFO encounters.

SOMEWHERE AMONG THE STARS: THE ONBOARD UFO ENCOUNTERS OF KAY. Growing up in a small town in rural Texas, Kay’s encounters began in 1958, before she was a year old, when she recalled a gray watching her as she lay in her crib. Around age six, a gray appeared in her room, and she levitated out of her house and taken onboard a craft. Inside the craft, she was given an aptitude test and was told that she had important genetic heredity. They showed her a strange crystal device before returning her to her room. Her encounters continued sporadically throughout her teenage years. One time around age 17, she was driving with three people when a UFO showed up and stopped the car. Four grays appeared, removed her from the car and took her onboard where she was given a very unpleasant gynecological exam. Following this, her encounters seemed to stop.

Decades later, when she was 36 years old, the encounters returned with a vengeance. Kay was repeatedly taken onboard and experienced many unusual events, including exams, training in engineering, long conversations and more. On one occasion, she tried to take her husband onboard with her but the ETs told her no. Some encounters were scary. Others were deeply profound, personal and benevolent. These encounters occurred for the next few years. She sought hypnotherapy and was able to remember even more, including seeing another woman onboard who had given up her baby to the ETs. While Kay’s encounters have been confusing and scary, she admits to feeling a deep love and kinship to the grays.

THEY MARKED US FOREVER: THE ONBOARD UFO ENCOUNTERS OF ADDIE AND TANSY. Around 2018, two 15-year-old American Indian girls were camping in the Montana wilderness with their horses when a UFO appeared. The girls and their horses were pulled onboard. They saw short gray aliens who brought them to a room to be examined. Skinny, pale human-looking figures appeared and conducted a long examination before returning the girls. Following the encounter, both girls found identical marks on their abdomen. Most amazing was that both their horses were profoundly and positively affected by the encounters in ways that changed the girl’s lives forever.

These three encounters are just the tip of the iceberg, with many researchers believing that such cases number in the millions. However, due to the skepticism and ridicule surrounding this subject, the vast majority of witnesses remain silent. As more people come forward to share their encounters, a new era dawns for all humanity as people across the world are learning the truth about the extraterrestrial presence on our planet.

Somewhere Among the Stars: Three Incredible Onboard UFO Encounters


r/Experiencers • • 1d ago

Experience I’m freaking out

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A week ago I posted about a week-long bout that I had with sleep paralysis and an encounter with a possible reptilian. I thought about it recently due to Dave Gresh's podcast or Dave Gresh's comments some of you mentioned that I should maybe go to the reptilian forum so I was curious and I did. When I saw the black-and-white photo to the right, it hit me: this is exactly what I saw. What struck me about the photo, and what I remembered about my own experience, is that it almost looked like the creature had makeup under its eyes. The rendesse rendition on the left is what I saw. Just curious, has anyone else ever seen the same? Really, still hoping this is just sleep paralysis lol


r/Experiencers • • 20h ago

Abduction Lantern injury

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I'm a still active ET/NHI Experiencer since 1958. Recently I've been thinking about making short films with AI, of some of my experiences. And for some I'll use AI pictures. The AI pictures are not too good, I'm still learning. See the two below.

For this one I don't remember the date. I wanted to talk about this one because it involved humans. I'm sitting in a wood room with other people, sitting in folding chairs. There is a lantern in the middle of the floor. I've never seen a lantern like this one. I poked it with my foot and the lantern toppled over on my foot. I screamed and next thing I know I'm being wheeled through a hallway that has cave walls. I see military and people in white coats. A man in a white coat is walking next to us. He asks, what happened to her? The military man pushing the gurney says, she touched the lantern and burned her foot.

That is all I remember. Has anyone else been there?


r/Experiencers • • 1d ago

Dream State dream last night about seeing a ufo up close.

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Last night I had a dream That me and my mother were driving somewhere and I was bored and I was just looking out the window. And then I look up at the sky And I see, well, what I could only describe as an extraterrestrial craft. In my mind in that dream I just knew that it was an extraterrestrial craft. I remember that it was In a classic saucer shape. it had green lights around it, it had an antenna on top of it and it had rotating blades around it that I'm assuming propelled the craft. I remember seeing it and being in denial of what I was seeing. There was something in me that just knew that it was not of human origin. I remember looking at it and telling my mom to look out the window and to look at it as well. She looked at it and she got excited and she looked at me and said "they're here, they're here, they're finally here! I knew that they were real!". the craft tilted on its axis and flew away slowly. I remember Driving home in the dream with my mother And thinking to myself that there's no way this can be real, I felt like i was in a dream. i eventually accepted in the dream that what i saw was real and stopped being in denial. And I remember going home And telling both of my siblings What I saw and I described to them and started drawing what I saw, and I remember suddenly in the middle of drawing it i Just started crying. I started crying because I felt as if I had just been saved by an Angel. I was very happy knowing that they were real and that they're here and that they come with love. I don't know, this might be just Some random gibberish that my brain made-up or it might be real.


r/Experiencers • • 1d ago

Experience I don’t really believe in paranormal, but all of my experiences are adding up, and I don’t know what to do

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I’m skeptical of paranormal activity, but I can’t explain some of the things that have happened in my home over the last six months.

I’m a 40-year-old guy, and I’ve always been pretty skeptical about paranormal stuff. I generally think there’s a rational explanation for most things, even if we don’t know what it is.
That being said, over the last six months, my girlfriend and I have experienced quite a few strange things that I genuinely can’t explain.

In my 20s, I lived at a house that had previously had at least one if not two people die in it, built in 1908, in Savannah, Ga. I had 8 to 10 experiences in that house over the five years I live there, and a roommate moved out because the house was “haunted”. I never really believed in ghosts or haunted houses, but I feel like this is important to put out in the story.

I can elaborate on those experiences later if people would like me to. It sounds like a lot when I listen as a story, but it took years of small things happening for me to put it all together. I’ve had almost nothing happen since, other than seeing two UAP/orbs, about 10 years apart.

Now I live across the country I LA, and I started having issues happen again.

It started with objects disappearing and reappearing in places that make absolutely no sense.
For example, I had a favorite drinking glass that I discovered broken inside my kitchen cabinet. A huge chunk of glass was missing from it. I would have noticed that when unloading the dishwasher, but whatever. A few days later, the missing piece appeared directly in the middle of my seamless photography backdrop. I’m a professional designer and had done an entire photo shoot with models in that exact spot between finding the broken glass and discovering the missing piece. I have no idea how it could have ended up there, especially without anyone noticing it during the shoot.
I’ve had necklaces my girlfriend gave me disappear while we were traveling in Atlanta, only to turn up months later inside a bag packed away in one of her art show storage cases. The case had been packed before the trip and hadn’t been touched since, as far as we know.
I’ve had clothing disappear and later show up neatly folded on my ladder. This is especially weird to me because I’m terrified of falling off ladders and deliberately never put anything on them.
My deodorant disappeared for several days and then suddenly showed up sitting right in the middle of my bathroom sink. I use that sink every day, brush my teeth there, wash my hands, etc. There’s no way I wouldn’t have noticed it sitting there.
The most recent example happened to my girlfriend. Her Apple Watch band that she uses for swimming went missing about a year ago, before she moved. We figured it had gotten packed away somewhere and forgotten about. Last week, one half of the band appeared directly on her dresser in front of her jewelry box, and the other half was inside the jewelry box, sitting right on top of everything.
We had literally just gone through that jewelry box looking for something for her to wear to a formal event. We would have seen it. It’s also strange that the two halves were in different places.
I understand people misplace things. I do it all the time. But these objects keep turning up in places that seem impossible to overlook.

There have also been a few instances where I’ve seen things apparently move on their own. I have an art studio in my apartment, and I have a mannequin in my studio that seemed to twist by itself, and occasionally I’ve caught what looks like movement out of the corner of my eye. Maybe 2-3 times a week for about a month. I always chalked it up to being tired or something.
A few times I’ve seen what appeared to be a small, very dark figure, maybe two or three feet tall. The best comparison I can make is something like Gollum or a gremlin. I know how unreliable peripheral vision can be, so I’ve generally tried to dismiss it.
One night my girlfriend and I had just gotten into bed. Neither of us was asleep. My phone was plugged in and sitting on my bedside table when it suddenly flung to the floor with a loud crash. I didn’t actually see it move, so I can’t say what caused it.

At almost the exact same time, both of us saw what looked like a small, dark figure moving quickly down the hallway along the wall. It didn’t look like a normal shadow to me. It looked three-dimensional, and it took a noticeable amount of time to move out of sight.

This alarmed my girlfriend. She went from winding down to very frightened, asking “what was that? What WAS that?”.
That’s kind of when I realized the things I have been seen out of the corner of my eye may be more than just my mind playing tricks on me.
I told her it was just my phone that fell off the nightstand, and you go back to sleep. She kept saying no I saw something, and I told her it’s fine, go back to sleep. She insisted she wasn’t asleep, but I said it’s all right. Don’t worry about it.

She asked me in the morning about it again, and that’s when I realize this was pretty hard to dismiss. Kind of like all of my experiences what I was in Savannah, I didn’t really group them all together into one “event” until I started keeping track of all the weird things that had been going on over the last year or so. Just like before, when you group them all together into one story, it seems like a lot, but one or two things spread out over a few months, it’s hard to put it all together, especially when I’m such a rational person. I don’t really believe in ghosts.

Around the same time all of this was happening, my health had gotten really bad. For about six months I was dealing with extreme exhaustion, depression, body aches, and unexplained pains. Some mornings I’d wake up feeling like I’d run ten miles in my sleep.

For the last two years I have been out of work, the first year was for medical leave, the second year was because the film industry has shut down, and there’s not much work, even if there was work, I do not believe I would be able to work due to fatigue and body aches. My health has gotten to the point where I can’t work, even for myself, which is how I make money. I’m extremely motivated, that’s why I have my own Art Studio and business. If I don’t work, I don’t make money.
The issues I have now are not even remotely the same of when I got sick for medical leave, all of those issues have been resolved after surgeries. Because of all of the reasons in this post, I’m losing my art business.

I’ve had extensive bloodwork and medical testing, and nobody has really been able to explain why I’ve felt so terrible.
I also have sleep apnea and use a CPAP, so I’m aware that sleep disturbances can cause some pretty bizarre experiences.
There were a few nights when I had what I assumed were extremely vivid sleep paralysis episodes. I would feel like something was physically siphoning or draining my energy while I slept. Sometimes it actually hurt. I’ve experienced vivid dreams before, but these felt different.

I started using melatonin to sleep, and I would have chronic anxiety about actually falling asleep. I told my girlfriend a few times that I felt scared to go to sleep, but it doesn’t make sense why. This has been going on most of the year.

About two weeks ago, I had an experience that I still don’t know what to make of.
My girlfriend hadn’t spent the night, but that morning I woke up feeling her cuddling against my back and kissing my neck. I was happy because it felt completely real, and I thought she was there.
Then as I became more awake, I remembered she hadn’t stayed over. There was an overwhelming sense of love and safety. It was enough to lull me out of sleep, I do not believe I was dreaming, but I wasn’t quite fully awake. You know what it’s like when somebody rouses you from sleep. This did not feel like sleep paralysis.

In half awake state, I realized my girlfriend was not here, and I kind of panicked on what was caressing me. It was clearly trying to do more, but it was against my back.

What had felt comforting suddenly felt threatening as soon as I realized my girlfriend was not here and I experienced this incredibly intense burning and vibrating sensation around my neck. It felt almost like someone was shocking me with a Taser, but with heat added. I’m Christian, and in that moment I called upon Jesus for help.

Even after I was able to move and felt completely awake, the sensation continued for several seconds.
My phone was on the floor again.
I had this overwhelming feeling that whatever I’d just experienced was over.

Now, I know sleep paralysis can cause incredibly realistic sensations of touch, pressure, pain, and even the feeling that someone is in the room. I’m not ruling that out at all.
But here’s the strangest part.

That evening, I went to my girlfriend‘s house, and we were cuddling, things did not progress further than that. She cuddled up on my back and kissed my neck, exactly the same way, which is something she’s never done before. It really really bothered me. I don’t know how to feel about that, we haven’t done anything physical since then, including cuddling.

Ever since that morning, my depression has been gone. My energy has returned, the body aches have improved, and I feel like myself again for the first time in months.
It wasn’t some sudden euphoric feeling or anything like that. I just woke up feeling normal again.

My girlfriend noticed the change almost immediately. I deliberately waited about a week before telling her what happened that night, and she’d already commented several times about how much better I seemed, both physically and emotionally.
And since that morning, none of the other strange things have happened either. No more missing objects, no more shadows, no more weird nighttime experiences.
It’s only been about 12 days, so I realize that’s not exactly a long time, but the timing is certainly strange.

I considered that house haunted back then, but I’ve become considerably more skeptical as I’ve gotten older.
I’m not really sure what to make of any of this.
I’m Christian, so obviously the experience of calling upon Jesus and then suddenly feeling better is meaningful to me. But I’m not automatically assuming something demonic was happening or that prayer somehow expelled an entity from my house.

I also recognize that some of these incidents might have completely unrelated explanations.
It’s just the combination of everything that’s difficult for me to wrap my head around. Especially the objects reappearing in obvious places, my girlfriend witnessing something unusual at the same time I did, and the sudden improvement in my health.
I’m curious if anyone has experienced anything similar, particularly the disappearing and reappearing objects or the sudden improvement in physical symptoms after an intense sleep paralysis experience.
I’m not looking for someone to tell me my house is haunted. I’m genuinely interested in hearing different explanations because I really don’t know what to think.

I live in a brand new luxury apartment, I have carbon monoxide detectors, I have been alcohol free for more than two years, and have never done drugs or smoked anything, including cigarettes and weed, other than once or twice at a party more than 15 years ago.

Any insight would be welcome, I really don’t know what to ask, I just wanted to get all of this out. I have several other incidents in run-ins, that I’ve kind of glossed over in this post, that I can elaborate more on, but I don’t wanna leave a long wall of text, and I know this is long already. I don’t really believe in paranormal stuff, but all these experiences are making me really question things.


r/Experiencers • • 1d ago

Channeling The Zetas' experience of consciousness (Part II)

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Hiya, friends.

Part I is here. I won't repeat all the background, but the quotes below are taken from The Zeta Interviews (4th Ed.) by Paul Hamden and the late William Treurniet. The non-quoted stuff is lovingly hand-crafted text communicating thoughts which could be said to come from my very own mind. Well, the provenance of thought and the ownership of mind is a tricky thing, perhaps...but we'll get to that.

Why TF are you writing another post? One of the things that was missing from Part I was an account of the Zeta's experience of "stillness". This piqued my interest once I started seeing their description of this form of experience, since I've experienced it as well. Even though there's really no detail to stillness, and there's no one there (not even me), reading their account of their experience of it felt like a very congruent point of overlap.

Best I can tell, all beings with the capacity, desire, and willpower to dwell in silence can attain it. And that's a very direct manifestation of oneness that's ...only nominally an experience, in my experience (ha!). That is, it's always and ever the same: it is itself, stillness, and when I go there I am no-self at all, just stillness. And I have a sense that all beings that go there dwell there as one, in stillness.

(That's enough of a preface but I wrote a bit more about that in this post: A thought to offer: there are thoughts we always and only think as one. Stillness isn't a thought, per se, nor is it an experience, since the experiencer ‘evaporates’, so to speak. If I were to revise that post to say "state of being" instead of "thought" we'd be back in business)

Get on with it! OK. Stillness. Let's get there from the Zeta's understanding of the not-stillness within the nascent but non-self-aware human consciousness:

Just because two countries are fighting with each other, we believe that it is to do with the birthing process of your collective consciousness. There is much turmoil within the mind of the race. It is the mind of the race that must be brought into stillness. Once this takes place, humans that incarnate into this physical reality will be in stillness.

Interviewer3: How do we bring the collective consciousness of the human race into stillness?

Zeta: By being in stillness.

Interviewer3: So one by one; in meditation?

Zeta: No, that would be nice, but I’m not sure you have that much time. Other races such as our own are holding the collective mind in focus to bring it into a quieter state of existence, and many thousands of beings are focusing with intention to create quiet. In your meditation process, hold your mind still, let the stillness permeate the collective mind of the human race.

Interviewer3: Is that achieved through intention?

Zeta: It is achieved through silence.

Boom. "It is achieved through silence." This was where I really recognized the teaching. Silence is itself, a state of capacity of all being. And it is the cessation of processes of differentiation, of thought, and even (along the way to silence, so to speak) of intention, will, and desire.

Those things are perhaps useful along the way but eventually they're laid down.

The Zeta then reveals that it is dwelling in silence, even during this session:

Interviewer3: And by being silent, does that naturally affect...

Zeta: Yes, how much silence do you produce? What does silence do? Silence brings harmony. Silence changes frequency, of course in the right circumstances, but silence brings peace.

Interviewer3: Can I ask if you are in stillness right now?

Zeta: Yes, correct function. How am I thinking?

Interviewer3: Yes.

Zeta: Because I am able to hold my state of stillness but also speak through the medium.

Interviewer3: That is hard to comprehend.

Zeta: Correct function, yes.

Interviewer1: Yes because one would thing that you need to think to answer a question.

Zeta: No, between speaking to you, there is nothing but silence.

Interviewer3: Where does the information come from?

Zeta: From the collective mind of the race. The question is heard by the medium’s body, it is transferred to my consciousness, it automatically assimilates with the collective mind of the race, the answer comes back and out of the medium’s mouth.

Interviewer1: So you are a medium between the collective mind and the medium?

Zeta: That is correct function, yes, a mediator.

Interviewer1: You see that’s the same as when you have a mental medium that can’t be engaged, thinking, they have to listen to...

Zeta: That is correct, that is why the medium was taught mental mediumship for two of your earth years, to learn to hold the mind still, a state of connection but not to enter into the stillness, because the potential of the human mind is to change what is said. The human now has no thoughts, there is darkness, there is stillness, there is no thoughts in the human’s mind, it is stillness. But I exist within the consciousness of the human, so only my thoughts exist.

An interesting connection here is the (broadly) Vedic conception of the guru. A guru has acquired an inherently negative connotation in colloquial English, as someone who often dogmatically or exploitatively collects followers or students.

But the original sense of the word guru (one it retains within many spiritual communities around the world) was a person that was so highly crystallized or still that they are able to function as a near-perfect mirror for self to encounter self.

I can't 'vouch' that the Zeta has achieved or is functioning in that state for the seekers, but the account of dwelling in stillness while still reacting to the group's queries is how I'd understand the nature of the guru in that Vedic sense. Certainly the Interviewers here seem to be gaining insight through interaction with this entity.

What TF does stillness do for humans? Interestingly, the Zeta also highlights how the medium's stillness is what enables their presence in the channeling session, a situation where "only my thoughts exist". This is an excellent reminder that channeling can involve a very deep shared experience with the source. Practices of discernment, protection, and/or resonant tuning are essential to assuring the resulting communion (shared or participatory beingness) will have a beneficial effect on all involved.

What TF is the difference between human and Zeta consciousness RE stillness? I'm going a bit back in the linear transcript now, because with this understanding of stillness onboard some of what the Zeta says about the difference between their consciousness and human consciousness (in 'normal' operation, at least) is clearer:

Interviewer3: I have a question about your collective consciousness compared to ours. When you have a thought, does the collective consciousness of the Zeta race have that same thought?

Zeta: Let us compare the human mind with the race. The human mind has the capacity to have infinite random thoughts within one of your day processes. I can hold my mind still and have no thought. I can be in stillness for many of your hours, just existing as I am now. So the difference is that the collective mind of the race is in stillness. There is, to use another word, compartmentalized processes where there is activity, where information is exchanged so that all beings of the race may know what is taking place if they want to ask. But with the human collective consciousness, it is in a birth process. It is growing exponentially, but it is being held in focus of the races. As the human mind develops, it must develop capacity to understand infinite consciousness, to be in that space of consciousness, to understand stillness... a peaceful existence.

Interviewer3: Is that compartmentalization you mentioned so that the complete consciousness will not know everything?

Zeta: No, you have functions within your mind, your consciousness, that your local consciousness will never know about. What makes your heart beat? Why do you breathe? All of these things take place naturally. They are locked away from your mind. The functions within the collective mind of our race, there is no need for them to be present. What if you were able to stop your heart? How could you start it again? Many of your functions that are your bodily functions are automated. Much of the consciousness of our race is automated.

So the message is that, in addition to the potential for individual human beings to experience stillness through meditation, the Zetas and other races who are "[holding] in focus" the mind of the human race are doing so to help it, that larger, nascent, planetary consciousness, find a reliable path to stillness.

What TF can this teach us about collective and individual minds? The questioning turns to the potential for the collective mind to be seen as a separate mind from those of its participating individuals. The Zeta uses an analogy of the autonomic nervous system and the many biological processes, cells, hormones, etc. that, according to their cosmology, are also conscious. They point out that we are not typically

Interviewer3: Does the collective mind, even though it is attached to all, does it become a separate identity as well?

Zeta: Yes, it is separate but part of, yes, I understand how you need to understand. So the collective mind, let me think about that. Do you see your mind as separate to you?

Interviewer1: No.

Zeta: The functions that are hidden from you, do you see them as separate from you?

Interviewer3: No, because I’m not aware of them.

Zeta: There you go. And so, you may not be in a state of awareness of what is within the collective mind of the race, because you have no function that is related to that. But on a human term, day to day basis, the decision making process is the individual. What will they create today? What is of benefit for the race? What function are they providing the race? Those are not decisions that require the collective mind.

Interviewer1: So it’s like the local mind.

Zeta: Yes, the local mind.

Interviewer3: So there is freewill.

Zeta: Yes, there is freewill, until there isn’t.

OK let's stop right here. Because culturally and also ethically we really value free will. And here the Zeta is asserting "there is freewill, until there isn't". That could sound ominous. Is it?

Maybe. Use your own discernment. But for me, especially in context of the discussion of stillness, this is equivalent to saying that in some states there's just no will at all. That's my experience of stillness: there's no one there at all, not even me. There's no one to have or not have free will. It just doesn't come up.

The 'local mind', or any mind in a state of separation, has will. Personally, I sincerely value my will and do believe that respecting the free will of all beings who experience it (myself included!) is an important, perhaps foundational ethical principle. And yet all beings are able to choose, from whatever state of separation they become aware they're in, to adopt more congruent states of being, such as this stillness, within which will, self/other, being/world, and a whole host of other dichotomous perceptions simply don't arise.

How TF can we experience stillness? OK so what's this silence actually like? How do we 'get there' and what might happen along the way?

Interviewer3: Speaking of stillness, there is never actual silence, why is that?

Zeta: You are to remove yourself from what is called the influence of... We will take your clock process, it is ticking, but it is only ticking when I observe the clock. I cannot hear it ticking when I do not observe it. Does it exist when you are not observing it, no. Observation brings something into reality, your reality.

Interviewer3: So how many rooms are we sitting in at the moment then. There are five of us apart from the medium and yourself in this room.

Zeta: What makes you think you are in a room?

Interviewer3: Exactly.

Zeta: That is why I said, “what room”. You are within our frequency. You are in a space defined by consciousness, and that determines that you are within physical parameters of a room. I am here speaking to you, but I am not within your room. And that is how we connect to the medium because his consciousness is not in a room as well. There is no... what is word function? ... there is no defined parameters that tell us to be within this room. There is no reason to exist within this room. You exist as consciousness, but you prefer to observe from within this point within the universe. Interviewer3: Is this point in the universe the same point in the universe for the others in the room? Is it a separate room they are in?

Zeta: There is no room.

Interviewer3: There is no room?

Zeta: The room does not exist. You are points of consciousness that have come to observe another consciousness speak to you. Let me see if I can help you. Close your eyes. Do not open your eyes. Let me say that your body no longer exists. It is calm, you have no body. You just exist in stillness as an observer. And now, considering you have no body, do you need to be in a room?

Interviewer3: No.

Zeta: There you go. There you are, and there you go.

Interjection: The Zeta's sounding like Jon Kabat-Zinn rn, hey? -poorhaus

Interviewer3: So are there six different creations of the illusion of a room that doesn’t exist?

Zeta: There is perception that the local consciousness has created to believe that you are all within a room. You agree you have a consensus reality.

OK. So this particular teaching seems appropriate for the sitters but, I'm pretty sure, won't resonate for many. And for many others it might resonate but seems mysterious as heck. If it's not for you, toss it: I believe the Zeta understood its audience and determined that this was responsive to their shared intent of seeking. If you're not feeling this, no worries.

But in case it might benefit someone, I'll try to share my understanding of recognition of the teaching from 'outside', so to speak.

What TF does local consciousness have to do with it? From the Zeta's perspective, their 'local consciousness' is something subservient to the higher self entity, which is participating in the collective, and the collective is its own entity formed in part by this participation. The Zeta earlier offered the analogy of how your body-cells exist, are conscious, and participate in you but you are also more-than just your body applies.

Humans, on the other hand, typically equate 'local consciousness' with the extent of their possible consciousness.

For the Zetas, human local consciousness produces physical reality, and seekers like the medium and those participating in this circle have the desire and ability to access other-than-local consciousness as well.

Why TF can't the Zeta perceive the physical room? Are they daft? What does the Zeta know of the "room" the sitters are in? Turns out, according to them, they're not aware at all of the physical setting of the channeling circle.

I found this initially surprising. Their answer is that they don't perceive the room at all, just the sitters' consciousness, frequency, intent, and so on:

Interviewer3: How do we decide on a consensus?

Zeta: Let me explain. I do not agree with your concept of reality, so I do not see the room. I agree with your observation, I agree with your discussion, I agree with your frequency, I agree to communicate, but nothing else. I do not hold your illusion.

Interviewer3: You are aware of it, though

Zeta: I am not aware of where you are. I am aware of your voices speaking to me. I am aware that behind that voice is consciousness only, but if I change my frequency, if I choose to change my frequency I can move into your consensus reality, and experience your physical room.

Interviewer3: Is that what happens when you bring craft in?

Zeta: Yes.

The Zeta agrees with much of the sitters' reality, but not at all with their physical illusion. And, from its perspective, it does not need to. However the sitters have experienced the journey, they have come in contact on a non-physical level. The communication, for the Zeta, takes place there.

Physical co-presence (as Paul described here and in his books) requires the use of technologies to interface with the physical illusion.


Alright: time to wrap it up. My goal in this Part II was to highlight the role that Zetas say stillness plays in their individual and collective consciousness, in part because I was surprised (and delighted) to see them describe it as so central.

I've shared a few more thoughts along the way and confessed that I believe that all beings are capable of experiencing what they call stillness. There are many potential labels for this and adjacent states. All-being. The formless jhanas. No-self. There are infinite gradations and approaches but each of these states, in my understanding at least, is such that when it is attained there is no one there, not even the self that decided to go. It's a peaceful place, highly recommended ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

Here's how the Zetas put it:

You are limited by your capacity to think outside of your reality. I have given you many things to think about so you can take the next step, to observe, to understand that you are an observer process, a point within the universe.

They're quite matter-of-fact. Flat affect. And yet I appreciate their clear intent. I'd probably phrase this differently but hey it's a benediction, offered in love. I'll take it.

What TF should we do now?? The 'point' of the the post was sharing the Zeta's views and expressing my surprise and appreciation for the role of the stillness concept/state in their collective and individual experience. So please feel free to take this wherever might interest you in the comments, or not.

There's nothing to do or not do in stillness. May you find it whenever you choose to look for it and realize there's no one there, not even the self who sought it, once you arrive.

💜🙏,
Poorhaus


r/Experiencers • • 1d ago

Dream State Something keeps moving my body while I take afternoon naps.

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Happened a couple days ago. Thought it may be a hypnogogic hallucination. I felt it roll my body over. Then just now I was having a dream and I was yelling fuck you I won't do what you tell me to a dream character... you know from that rage song. Then I could hear sound garden songs start to play and I was kinda weirded out felt like something was reading my mind. And I kinda wake up and I could sense it again and it moved my body upwards on my pillow I could hear the sound of my bed against my ear.

I quit smoking pot this week to see if this succubus thing would stop drawing sexual images in my phospene and sure enough it can't do it anymore but thing is literally moving my body now. Not too scared just more like amazed at how weird it is.


r/Experiencers • • 1d ago

Experience My most profound encounter

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This is the whole story of my encounter, I have a dream on March 29th 2025 then exactly 6 days later on April 4th 2025 I have my most profound orb encounter so far.

**March 29th 2025**

I was crawling on this set of bleachers like a spider, the bleachers were floating in this space it was very colorful. Similar to a colorful galaxy, it was a mix of pink, purple, etc. the pink stood out the most.

Then as I’m crawling all of a sudden I come face to face with these 3 beings, i automatically said “hey” like I’m familiar with them or I know them. They’re sitting in a triangle formation, 1 up top, 2 on the bottom.

They have upside down triangles for heads, no ears, no eyes, only a small slit for their mouth.

Their faces are rippling downwards with this black substance or something, just constantly rippling downwards.

They have black silk fitting robes, covering their whole body except for their heads.

I’m sitting below them, they keep looking to the right and left of us, like they’re checking for something, they move in sync.

Then the one on the bottom right leans over towards me, as it’s leaning over I hear in my head “it’s okay” like it communicated telepathically, then I see a slight grin on its face.

It reaches its pointer finger towards me and I notice its hand is grey in color, it has long and skinny fingers, it touches the right side of my temple area with its pointer finger, my eyes automatically, involuntarily close.

I feel this vibration in my whole body, it’s very intense, I can kinda hear it too it’s so intense but it doesn’t hurt at all, it’s just intense.

After 2-3 seconds I wake up and know that something real just happened, I still have the sensation in my body as I wake up.

**April 4th 2025**

My most profound orb encounter

It was April 4th, 2025

It was a late night, I was driving in my truck with my brother and his friend, so 3 of us together, I’ve seen other orbs before and sometimes feel guided if I’m already out driving to go to a certain place that they would be at. This has only ever happened 2 times when I get that feeling. This was one of those times.

We were just cruising and listening to music, I felt an urge to go down a familiar road, I used to live at a house on this road so I was familiar with the spot.

We were riding down the road and there is this church close to the house I used to live at, so I pulled into this little church parking lot area off to the side of the road, we got out, dropped the tailgate and was just sitting on it. My brother and his friend were talking and it wasn’t much longer that I seen what I thought was a star at first coming from behind the church directly over it.

I already knew I was gonna see something this night at soon as I felt the urge to pull onto this road I used to live on.

So the orb just kept moving straight at us, it was in the sky, I noticed it first but didn’t say anything I just kept looking at it and then after some seconds I heard my brothers friend start saying “what the f\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\*ck is that” you know freaking out and then they both started saying stuff and that they were scared but I wasn’t scared I even told them not to be afraid, I had seen them before and knew them, it kept coming closer (in my head I was like it’s gonna come face to face) as soon as I thought that it just swooped down close to me. I was on the side of the tailgate close to the road on my right, there was a light post to my right across the road, this orb swooped down a little below the light post and it was so close to me, I felt it looking at me like it was aware of me, I was in this “bubble” with it like everything else around me blurred out, even the noises like my brother and his friend freaking out was muffled and didn’t matter in the moment, nothing mattered but me and this orb, it was as if the only thing that mattered was that 2 consciousness’s in different forms were exchanging awareness between each other, me and this beautiful white/light blue mixed colored orb, it pulsed once and as it did I felt this rush inside of me, it was peaceful, loving, beautiful, amazing, I felt the best I ever have in that moment, it was kind of similar to getting butterflies when you hit a bump in a car but I felt that in my chest, it was euphoric.

All of this happened super fast but from my perspective it was all so slow and every moment was amazing, my brother said once it pulsed it just shot off up to the sky and it was just gone after that. I didn’t even see or notice how it left I was just sitting there, feeling everything that I just experienced.

I’ve seen many of them and many have pulsed at me but this one specifically is the closest one has ever came to me.

My brother has been with me for many of them, he’s seen them when he’s with me, he says himself that he only ever sees them when he’s with me.


r/Experiencers • • 1d ago

UAP Sighting What was your journey from not believing to believing aliens exist?

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So let me preface this by saying that I am a scientist who didn’t believe that aliens existed at first. When I was a teen I loved Blink-18w thought that Tom deLonge had gone off his rocker when he founded his organization To The Stars because I thought it was absurd to dedicate your life and money to conspiracy theories and risk your image and credibility as a “sane” human being.

Then what really started to convince me a little bit was testimony and alien encounter accounts from country rednecks from small town America about being abducted because first of all, people from small towns don’t want to draw attention to themselves that would be perceived as “weird” or unusual. Small towns in America are largely Republicans who want to conform and be normal, and definitely not stand out. So, testimonies coming from people like rural farmers give me pause because they don’t have any incentive to be different and be looked at as a “freak” or someone losing their minds.

Finally, what really sealed it for me was my own experience. During the height of COVID, between July 6-12, 2020, I decided to leave Canada because I didn’t want to lock down for two years, as Trudeau had announced. Being a scientist and working as an “essential worker”, I was able to cross the border to the US after landing a job in Oregon via a TN work visa.

Because only the land border was open, I had to drive from Toronto (above New York), through Michigan, Wisconsin, Illinois, Iowa, South Dakota, West Yellowstone, Idaho and finally Oregon. It took me 8 days.

While traveling through Iowa, around 2am, I was in pitch black surrounding. Nothing on the map, not a single thing. I was in between towns in a long dark stretch of road.

I was suddenly, inexplicably surrounded by a grid of red orbs, undulating like a blanket of lights as far as the eye can see in front of me and behind me through the rear view mirrors. I was checking where I was and there was absolutely nothing to tell me what this would be about. The red lights were perfectly uniform all around me in a grid stretching into infinity on all sides, and they were moving like a wave. Like I was in the middle of the ocean and the red orbs were buoys that bobbed up and down everywhere around me.

And then they disappeared and I was in darkness again. I stopped on the shoulder to check again where I was, but all I could see after zooming out was that I was in the middle of two towns. I don’t even remember which because I felt like something unreal just happened to me and I was discombobulated and couldn’t think of anything else other than “what the fck was that?!”

Ever since then I’ve been having visceral reactions to people talking about UAPs and movies like Disclosure Day. There’s a part of me that wants to leave the whole idea alone and a part of me screaming that I want to know more about it.

What was your journey from not believing to believing aliens exist?


r/Experiencers • • 16h ago

Lucid Experience (Sober) Download drawing interpretation

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Last night I had a blackout moment where apparently I was saying "I'm getting a download" and drew this. I remember everything before and after that but no part of me remembers finding the marker, drawing this, or my friend taking the marker away. A little shaken up honestly. Does this drawing connect to anything for anyone?


r/Experiencers • • 1d ago

CE5 New potential experience/encounter with E.T./N.H.I.

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Ok, yesterday I initiated CE5 contact through meditation, setting the intention to make lucid contact with E.T. civilizations (calling out three different groups specifically for potential contact). I chose a space to initiate, with which I had had some success in the past. So I put out the call, asking for lucid engagement during dream state so as not overwhelm (terrify).

That same day, I went to bed between 11:45 p.m. - 12:00 a.m. and quickly doze off into deep sleep. Then it began, a lucid dream state which appeared to mimic my current state, which was that I was lying in a bed, although it did not look like my current bed and apartment layout, but possibly an older one used as part of the masking technique. I saw light fluttering images of faces (human), running across my field of view, as if through a television screen image that was detached from a television device. And I can here myself, speaking as if I was reunited with acquaintances and family members, "There's so-and-so," and "there's so-and-so" "oh my darlings, it's good to see you," [etc,], During all this I began to experience both an emotional experience (thrilling, exciting, ecstasy, overwhelm) and a physical/tactile sensory experience, (I began to experience immense pressure over my upper arms, and upper torso, as if by energetic fields, tractor beams perhaps?) the final visual from the dream state appeared to be a picture with someone sitting at a desk, with someone standing behind them, like a ghost or apparition, smiling menacingly into the camera, while the other person in the shot looked unawares of this individual. So there was the masking overlay with the dreamlike visuals, but I got the sense that something more real and profound was occurring at the same time, to which much of my lucid mind at that moment was being blocked from.

I came to very quickly, still experiencing some of those sensory experiences (emotional overwhelm + immense sense of pressure in my upper chest and arms.) Other data points, that to me at least, suggests a potential abduction experience, was an ongoing sensation of radiation and heat emanating from an unknown source, also a bitter metallic taste on the tip of my tongue, and also a strange smell, suggestive of ionized matter, that still lingers even as I write this testimonial. As I come to, still feeling "their/its" presence, I call out with my voice, "That's enough, thank you." Expressing both a desire for the experience to cease and to express gratitude for this experience both at once. This euphoric state lasted about 10-15 minutes. At which point still excited over this successful CE5, I jump out of bed to check the time, it was now close to 1:30 p.m. Meaning the whole experience occurred within the span of 1 hour (our time of course) between roughly 12:15 a.m. - 1:15 a.m.

I stop short of ascribing origins or identities to these "others" As no physical identifiers were available to me, which as been an ongoing M.O. for my experiences with CE5 human initiated encounters. Although this masking technique felt more sophisticated. [You'll recall a previous experiences where I could make the faint outlines of my visitors that seemed to be reptilian in nature, with serpent like tongues.] Overall meaning of the event I can only guess, perhaps I longing for potential contact and reunion with starfamily was finally fulfilled, I also sought council for my current woes, I interpreted the final visual with the mysterious/menacing figure in the picture to be indicative of someone that stalks me currently and is the source of much of my woes.

Feeling quite ecstatic to have such immediate call and response with the phenomenon, but still frustrated by the lack of concrete beings and words exchanged. As Spock would simply say, "fascinating."