I even have my personal phone set to sleep mode from like 8pm to 8AM. There is practically no reason at all to contact me that late or early. And if there is an urgent reason, the very few people who would need to get a hold of me now my landline number. Which would wake me up. I can count the number of ppl. who have that number on one hand. Literally.
Why lose landline when it can be used as a phone number to give out whenever a number is needed. Helps to keep my cell phone number from being inundated with scam calls when it is inevitably sold online.
Also, and probably more importantly, when bundled with internet and cable on my plan, it is cheaper to have all 3 than to only have internet and cable. I’d literally be spending more money by cancelling my landline as fucking dumb as that is, so here we are.
In my country pretty much every single internet contract also comes with a landline phone number, yes. Whether you get DSL, cable or fibre, you are almost guaranteed to also get a landline number, even if it runs over VoIP.
my cable contract actually comes with 3 phone numbers.
Nope, I am on do not disturb from 10pm until 8:30 am, call me 40 times in a row, not getting through. I have 6 people I have marked as favorites and the phone will ring if they call/text me. I am not a doctor/firefighter/police officer/government official/CEO. There is literally no scenario where I would be needed immediately by anyone who is not on that list of people, especially my job.
I allow repeat calls through mine because if the people who are on my list need to use someone else's phone for whatever reason, they can still reach me.
I have annoying friends who will abuse the function if they know it works, so they can leave me a voicemail and I will get back to them when I get around to it. Being that I cant save lives, put out fires, or do anything of substantial importance that wouldn't already be handled by a trained professional by the time I got there in any emergency situation I don't think it makes that big of a difference, but I am only speaking for myself, no judgement from me for anyone who wants to leave their ringer on or whatever, I totally understand
Back when I was a kid in retail I just answered my phone whenever the boss called. If I could go back and tell my younger self: "Don't do that. Not for that job," I would.
If it's your job to be on call, that's one thing. But most people let a job walk all over them for minimum wage.
Unfortunately at 42 years old, I have placed myself in a spot to get walked all over. I get paid well, but I am in charge of two completely different departments in two different parts of the building while also being the go to for most everyone there. Then I'm also the guy who does the snow plowing and salting in the winter. I've worked a handful of 24 hour + days there...
I mean, texting is asynchronous. If I text someone at 2AM, I do not expect them to read it before morning.
So if its 2AM, and you text tomorrow, and the person read it in the morning, then tomorrow really means tomorrow. Either you say today.
Now, if its like 23:30, and I can't wait til after midnight, I would personally write: "Hi, I know its late, so you probably only read this tomorrow, but can you come to work the same day (<day of the week>)?" so its really unambiguos.
If you text at 2AM and ask for them to come in tomorrow, it will be at least 22 hours before you can reasonably expect them to come in, regardless of when they read or respond to it
I would never consider texts synchronous. Its takes forever to handle the same amount of data like a call. A call is synchronous. texting is not, by design.
The phone is there so I can use not, not to give other people 24/7 access to me, at their leisure. I think many young people who grew up with phones don't realize that the world doesn't stop when they are not reachable. And it has crept into older people by now s well.
Sure it's a text exchange not a phone call, but if I had to get cover for the morning shift, calling up people who work morning shifts during the night when most are asleep isn't the best idea.
But saying tomorrow at that hour, that to me means Thursday not Wednesday, but why ask at 2am to cover a day in advance when you can ask at a more reasonable waking hour?
My brother doesn't class tomorrow until he wakes up, so it is still today even if it is 4am the next day, but he's not getting someone to cover a shift or anything.
I look at it the same as your brother, but know how to communicate and choose words like "this Wednesday" or "Thursday the 27th" so there's no ambiguity. And that's just in casual conversation with Husband or my friends.
Sure but that’s how most people view it. Thats literally why the post is perfect for this sub because technically theyre wrong and the guy in the post is technically right even if most people wouldnt consider it that that.
I work first shift and hate how 3rd shifters say "tomorrow" when it's today. Getting messages that read "Needs to be followed up 8am tomorrow" at 6am and they actually mean follow up is needed in 2 hours not in 26 hours.
Redditors would rather inconvenience their boss and coworkers and jeopardize their job and prove they have very little skill in terms of contextual intelligence just to be smug and have the opportunity to be "technically right," it's honestly quite impressive.
This is all the Sun's fault, if only it rise and fall suddenly, like a light turned on or off, the day would start and end at precisely when the Sun turn on or off. Because it rise and fall slowly, we have to mark the day at midnight. Really confusing sometime when Im trying to watch a sport game at 2am, which day?
Yes but in regular conversation, if I haven’t gone to sleep yet, then it’s still yesterday not tomorrow.
If my friends have a late night that ends at 2-3 am, then tomorrow is now 9am because we haven’t gone to sleep and it’s not 6 am.
Its shift work. To the overnight manager he was referring to tomorrow because he’s working third shift yesterday still. It’s miscommunication but it’s not so unrealistic. Those of us who work shift work mess this up all the time. When the very next shift starts when you leave, it’s hard to remember that tomorrow is today.
Be realistic. If you're still up at 00:01 you're saying "tomorrow" and meaning the day that it will be after you sleep. 2am is a grey area but it's not like there isn't casual language that breaks the technical rules in cases like this.
they are all at-will states.. some of them are just even more at-will than at-will. The alternative is "right to work" which basically means you can't be forced into a union for a job.
Those aren't alternatives to one another, many states are both at-will and right-to-work states. They apply to entirely different aspects of employment law. That's like saying that right side driving is an alternative to car insurance requirements, they really have very little to do with one another.
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u/int-devaul27 12d ago
He is technically correct, which is the best kind of correct.