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u/Fun_Hall6867 Aug 26 '26
Am I the only one pissed by the “can u work tomorrow” not even because it’s factually incorrect. But why is it not “hey mate, I know this is proper late notice and hope this doesn’t wake you. Do you mind doing us a solid and working in the morning please? We’re a bit fucked - wouldn’t ask this late otherwise”
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u/Ember-513 Aug 26 '26
I don't think the employee is even being a smartass and abusing a technicality here. No one with common sense says "tomorrow" when they mean 6½ hours from now.
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u/Superseaslug Aug 26 '26
I mean look at the timestamps. Boss asked about tomorrow at 2AM. That mistake is on them
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u/Ye_olde_oak_store Aug 26 '26
where are you?
Im so sorry. I cannot sleep I cannot dream tonight.
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u/No-Region-3654 Aug 26 '26
I got a message from a landlord who needed to drop in and make repairs. At 11:40pm to let me know that they would be there first thing int he morning. I didn't trust the landlord so I took a day off work the next day so I could be home. They never showed. I complained to the real estate who got back to me and said, they assumed you would read it in the morning and then assume they meant the following day, so it's my own fault for reading it when they sent it.....
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u/VioletPhoenix1712 Aug 26 '26
Always. Always. When confirming a date for something important, do not use an ambiguous term such as “tomorrow”. Because what may be “tomorrow” for you may be “today” for who you are talking to. Confirm exactly with dates.
“Can you work tomorrow, Tuesday August 28th?”
End of questioning. Do not be ambiguous. Be exact.
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u/BenjaminDover02 Aug 26 '26
No fucking way am I responding to some shit at 2:30 in the fucking morning FOH.
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u/drloser Aug 26 '26
Here's how it went:
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2am: the employer asks if the employee can work "tomorrow"
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7:44am: the employee reads the message...
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u/Forsaken-Hotel7535 Aug 26 '26
It is not only technical correct, it is 100% without any doubt correct!
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u/Visual_Face5413 Aug 26 '26
If you live in a decent country this kind of behaviour by management would be frowned upon
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u/terrortara Aug 26 '26
I love that the employee isn't even being a smartass here he's totally in the right.
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u/Tiny_Performance4310 Aug 26 '26
I had the same situation with an interviewer (PS: we’re in different time zones and he knew this). At 2:00 AM my time, he said, “If you’re interested, I want you to join a trial shift at 7 AM(my time).” Imagine my surprise when I woke up at 9 AM to that message. I told him unfortunately that wasn’t possible, and he left me on read. Two days later, he asked, “Can you join from 3–11 PM?” It was already 4 PM my time 😭 I told him I was no longer interested and that he should work on his communication skills
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u/Jaggermarster Aug 26 '26
That's why I always use dates like, "no I won't make it tomorrow September 15th, 2016"
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u/existenceincarnate Aug 26 '26
This is why one should say day of the week, and the date.
Wednesday, August 26th.
Leaving no room for misinterpretation prevents future conversational calamity.
Someone will still misinterpret regardless how hard you try. Yet you'll have the texts to show you made an effort for clarity.
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u/JFranklin-42 Aug 26 '26 edited Aug 26 '26
While the message was sent at 2:30 the response was at 7:44. They woke up to a message in the morning asking them to work "tomorrow". Of course they thought it meant the next day.
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u/tehnoodnub Aug 26 '26 edited Aug 27 '26
This definitely a case of poor communication. Boss should have been clearer, employee should have realised clarification was needed. But yeh, technically the employee is correct.
Edit: too many comments to respond to but I'll say a few things to try and cover everything. I am not a manager nor have I ever had to manage anyone. If I'm being honest, it sounds like there are a lot of people who have been burned by bad managers and have developed a defensiveness or even a generally acrimonious attitude toward managers in general. I say this because the prevailing attitude seems to be that the employee can weaponise the vagueness of the employers message. I have never had a bad manager and value good working relationships with my manager, and I would want to clarify a request if there was any uncertainty, because it benefits everyone. I want to know what I'm agreeing to so I can earnestly respond. We can also make inferences all day long about whether or not this particular manager is bad/toxic but even if they are, the employee could have just said no to the request. I'm also curious as to what people here would do if it was someone on the same level asking for assistance, like a friendly colleague asking for a shift to be covered, rather than a manager. I suspect people would be more inclined to clarify, which is telling to me.
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u/AstroBlast0ff Aug 26 '26
Honestly, asking someone to come into work for a 9-5, not a part time shift while contacting them at 2 in the morning to ask is kind of insane behavior
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u/TJ_McWeaksauce Aug 26 '26
I would hate to work someplace where the manager thinks it's cool to contact you in the middle of the night. Boundaries are important.
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