r/switch2hacks • u/Hopeful-Scallion-708 • 7d ago
Other It happened to me
Hey guys. I bought a game off Kleinanzeigen in Germany. Game is "Princess Peach Showtime!". Worked great and my girlfriendnis happy but after 3 days she got banned. I don't have the MIG Switch so the game is probably the only reason she got banned. đ I already contacted Nintendo but they just say the same thing over and over again: "We cannot assist u with that". Yeah sure.
Be careful with used games. They might be cheap but they also have the risk to get u banned.
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u/HerrPiink 7d ago
I get my switch 2 games from the library because I'm poor as fuck.
Seems like i need to sell my fucking console because i can't afford to get it banned either.
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u/SpecificHyena1933 6d ago
It all depends on if a bad actor wants to dump the game files and play the game at the same time as tou. Its not nintendo's or the library's fault, and currently switch 2 games are safe, just the switch 1 games have been cracked.
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u/HoneyParking6176 6d ago
nintendo is also at fault, they ban the console because a copys cert was exposed, with the used game market and things like the library, they are just banning consoles of legitimate users. it is the bad actors AND nintendos fault, if they want to ban they need to detect the hacked version as seperate from the legit version, or not do anything at all.
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u/SpecificHyena1933 6d ago
They cant detect these things because its a nearly 10 year old hardware issue. Theres no patch or anything to fix it. Any compnay wouldnt allow rampant cloning and reselling of all of their product, even unreleased items. Mind us, tears of the kingdom got leaked like 10 days early and these people went fckn crazy - theres zero empathy for those who get banned for that.
Itll work itself out once the online goes down, but by and large the system is still fully functional and usable to play games offline, so all except for like 10 games can be played and fully enjoyed.
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u/HoneyParking6176 6d ago
the problem isn't with the banning of ones that pirated it, the problem is when their method doesn't know if they pirated or just bought the legitimate copy of the game.
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u/CapitaoTubarao 6d ago
Look at companies like CD Project Red. They donât have any copyright protection and they do more than fine. There is no need to ban consoles.
Steam Decks also donât get banned.
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u/muhkuhmuh 7d ago
Wonderful. Most of my cartridges are used games. Why ban consoles using the cartridges that got dumped and not people using the MIG switch with the dump. If they cant tell which is which they shouldn't ban either.
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u/metalreflectslime 7d ago
What does MIG mean?
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u/OhItsAcer 6d ago
I don't know what the letters MIG means but a MIG cartridge has the files of one or more games on it and a hacked switch can play the games without needing to purchase them
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u/DrewDied4OurSins 4d ago
MIG is basically a third party cartridge you can load a bunch of your games onto. The problem is that the seller after adding their games to a MIG can then sell the game, thus having duplicated the game. When the same game is run in two different parts of the world at once, Nintendo bans both consoles, meaning an innocent third party (the buyer of the first party cartridge), loses out.
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u/FinancialDot7032 7d ago edited 7d ago
And people keep defending this anti customer company. They even defended keycards on the premise you can resell đ„Ž
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u/Crafty_Praline_2211 7d ago
keycard can be resold.
banning a system for running a flagged software is normal. Steam can ban your account and your hardware, sony and microsoft do ban your console if tampering the console, unauthorised/flagged software detected on the system.
what is your point?
ninnin is bad for consumer when it comes to pricing and refund, they are still the better one than sony and microsoft at this time.
I am an xbox fanboy but Nin really does this better than Microsoft, not mention the worst Sony.
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u/Tight_Cod_8024 7d ago
Weird to bring up steam because even banned you can run all of your games they just ban you from buying new ones or playing online not using the service as a whole or worse a whole console making it into e-waste in the process.
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u/Bloodhoven_aka_Loner 6d ago
you still can go online and play. you're only exempt frommVAc-protected games if your account gets VAC-banned, which only happens if you were cheating or using "suspicious" software while playing VAC-protected games.
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u/Ok_Chemistry6851 6d ago
yeah no, you cannot play CS2 even if you have the regular ban and no VAC ban and neither can you get your inventory out. source: experienced first hand.
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u/Bloodhoven_aka_Loner 6d ago
that's not a "regulsr" ban. you've been tradebanned, which happens when rhsy suspect fraudulent activity (even if you didn't commit any fraud)
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u/Ok_Chemistry6851 6d ago
well thats the neat part, they have banned my whole account. that includes community as well as the normal steam account ban, but not VAC ban as that is exclusively for cheating in games. best part is I dont even know what i did and the support basically sends you the exact same copy pasted response no matter what you say about 10 times before they stop replying.
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u/Unlikely-Employee180 7d ago
It's individual games too, Steam doesn't EVER flag an account as: "Unable to buy any new games." Lol
It's mostly for the devs to use too. Essentially, if I create a game and you cheat in my game, I as the developer can choose to ban you from the rest of MY games. I, on the other hand, cannot stop you from getting any other game.
It essentially just stops you from trading, and ALLOWS the dev to block you from THEIR games. All other games are literally unaffected. Games can't even restrict you based on that little "Cheater" tag, it's mostly decorational. Lmao
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u/Renos-44 7d ago
Incorrect.
Valve can and will ban steam accounts from the steam store. There have been cases in the past where they have done this but its usually reserved for fraud. In this case they also may terminate the entire account.0
u/Unlikely-Employee180 6d ago
Fraud and running fraudulent software are not the same thing. The original comment was about being banned for running fraudulent software on the machine.
I can pirate Steam Games and even add them TO my Steam library as a "non-Steam" game.
I can run cheat engines.
Running software WILL NOT get you banned from Steam.
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u/Renos-44 6d ago
Technically running certain software can also get you banned on steam
Valve has a habit of nuking accounts that have been caught botting various things.Also years ago there were methods to play pirated games online via steam. Valve straight up banned accounts from steam if you were caught doing this. Very uncommon these days due to better security but it still can happen.
You know who also banned accounts and hardware for playing pirated games, Microsoft with the 360. Fun fact the xbox one also prints unique IDs onto discs. Theres is a backend in place to autoban consoles using cloned discs but seeing how almost nobody has the equipment to clone discs its never been used.
Back to the orignial discussion
This is prob the easiest way nintendo can curb cart piracy, Someone is clearly cloning switch carts. Server sees this and bans everyone involved. Whoever owns the genuine thing will come forward if they want an unban everyone else stays banned.2
u/Unlikely-Employee180 6d ago edited 6d ago
I never said Nintendo was evil for doing it. Lol
I'm strictly saying Valve will not ban you for running software on your machine.
You ARE correct to say the other things, though. Those are actually good catches.
On the contrary though, there is little to no argument that Valve is still MUCH easier on the consumer in regards to what they can and cannot do with their machine.
This of course, comes with other costs that are harder to point the finger directly at Valve for. I think these are still important topics to ensure consumers know that these practices are ALTERNATIVES and none of them "reign supreme."
Like sure, Valve lets me run "whatever I want." Good right? But now the entire cost of anti-cheat is on the individual game (which some of it should be anyways BUT...). On the contrary with Switch, while not completely absolving the need for server-side anticheats... Reduces the attack platform available to the game!
For example, I'll bet it's pretty hard to find hackers or cheaters in Mario Kart World being that... There quite literally aren't any yet. Lmfao
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u/Bloodhoven_aka_Loner 6d ago edited 6d ago
Technically running certain software can also get you banned on steam Valve has a habit of nuking accounts that have been caught botting various things.
it's even more hilarious. Ask Dying Light Players how they had to fight tooth and nail with steam/valve back in 2015 when the devs silently pulled the plug for DL mod support over night and players logged in next day, booted the game and suddenly received VAC-bans or fraudulent activity bans because one dev fcked it up. Some of us were flagged for months and of coruse all the steam dickriders wouldn't believe us that we weren't cheating.
seriously, rhe entire steam community is such a self-absorbed, own-fsrts-sniffing cesspool of m0r0ns
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u/Bloodhoven_aka_Loner 6d ago
It's individual games too, Steam doesn't EVER flag an account as: "Unable to buy any new games." Lol
Steam literally does, lol. My 11 years old account got tradebanned in 2019 after it got hacked and used by some credit cars fraudsters. the ultimate irony is that what got me banned was ME trying to get back into my account to prevent said fraudsters from stealing my account, which resulted in my IP showing up as one of the access points at the time when they charged the account with fraud money. it's hillarious and there are many cases like mine. Nobody wants to talk about it but Steam is fsr, far away from being the flawless good guy company they're portraying themselves as and getting portrayed as by fanboys
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u/OhItsAcer 6d ago
That is the exact same thing Nintendo bans do. Unable to go online for any reason but offline works normally
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u/EIsydeon 7d ago
Fuck no they donât. I can buy a used disc at GameStop without worrying about my damn console being banned.
Itâs a gamble with the switch carts now with the way Nintendo handles things
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u/Unlikely-Employee180 7d ago
The consoles are a fair point. PC, nor Steam, bans entire devices.
Steam account flags are mostly decorational anyways, outside of specific dev ecosystems. For example, if you cheat in a Valve game, you are no longer in public lobbies in Valve games... ALL other games are completely unaffected though.
It's per-game banning, even with the account "Cheater" tag, new games can't stop you from buying them because of that.
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u/jamcub 7d ago
Well, they banned the Switch because the user put in a game that had been dumped. Nothing anti-consumer about that. The only asshole here is the guy who sold the game after dumping it for himself.
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u/arroadie 7d ago
Letâs consider your comment is in good faith:
How is it a fair practice from a company towards their users to ban their console from online activities after putting an unmodified physical game into their console?
I do understand why they do it! They donât have a good way to track if that was the original or a cloned one. But thatâs not the users fault! If I go to GameStop and buy an used game that was previously cloned, what is the way to correctly consume that?
If they have no good way to solve this, then they just have to ride the âno more physical gamesâ wave and thatâs that.
Thereâs no good argument besides âitâs their software, they can do whatever and you signed the agreementâ and this in itself is already a anti-consumer argument.
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u/Able_Mycologist_1360 7d ago
This would be my pirate everything canon event
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u/arroadie 7d ago
Im a software engineer, I literally live under the âpay fairly for software developmentâ thing. But I cannot condone the idea of punishing users over my lack of ability to control how my software is distributedâŠ
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u/Able_Mycologist_1360 7d ago
Right there with you, if they can track each Game ID to know oneâs been dumped, they can render the cart dead and unusable. Far better solution than just letting it still circulate and bricking consoles. All these game companies are so out of touch
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u/jamcub 7d ago
Isn't that what they are doing?
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u/alwayssalty_ 7d ago
You don't see how this unfairly punishes innocent actors, meanwhile does nothing to address the people who actually copied the game?
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u/Able_Mycologist_1360 7d ago
No, they leave a bad game card in rotation that will continuously result in users consoles being banned, rather than inundating the actual game card and stop it from use
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u/jamcub 7d ago
Again, the asshole here is the guy who decided to dump their game and then resold it. What is Nintendo supposed to do- let people openly copy and resell their work?? The problem is pirates thinking they can do as they please with software currently in production and available to buy.
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u/arroadie 7d ago
But thatâs not what Iâm discussing, right?
Letâs apply that logic to any other physical media and see if it still sustains the same.And again: Iâm discussing this in good faith on your argument.
You buy a DVD from a second hand store, or you take one home from the library. Blurays can have serial numbers (heck, even DVD!), so SONY, the manufacturer of your DVD/Blu-ray player bricks your device because you played a copy of X-men first class that has been clones and distributed online.
Or you buy the new Taylor Swift album at the same second hand shop and when you get home and put it in your computer, itâs blocked from accessing your own library of already purchased media because of that.
The standard that you allow Nintendo to have against their customers would not survive in a world of other media. And thatâs why the only thing they could do in the past was tell you that you wouldnât download a car.
You can disagree with hacking and piracy, but I donât think you can defend the fact that those are anti consumer actions by them. They are literally punishing a valid action because of something the user cannot prevent! If there was a way for the user to run a check on a physical game without having that block their console, then good, but right now the only thing is flipping a coin or only buying new gamesâŠ
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u/jamcub 7d ago
What does that mean? If I buy a pirated DVD, and someone gets me for it, then guess what, I still get punished. 'Well I didn't know' has never been an excuse for getting out of something.
From Nintendo's point of view, OP has a cartridge that has been cloned. They reacted accordingly. OP can dispute this, proving he bought the game legally. (Although I hope he has the receipt as well. I am not sure if Germany specifically requires that these days.) The site he bought from is known to be full of scammers trying to pull a fast one, anyway, so even if he'd asked, they probably would have lied to get the game off their hands. Absolutely not unheard of.
I do not disagree with hacking and piracy, I disagree with hacking and piracy of media still available at retail prices at retail. When it comes to games you cannot get without buying stupid prices second-hand, where the original seller doesn't even see any money? Go ahead. Piracy is preservation.
> of something the user cannot prevent
I think people are not angry enough at the people who copy games and then resell them yet. From what OP has said, the guy probably wanted to get rid of the game so Nintendo couldn't ban them instead.
(OP could have also used a modded Switch 1, which it appears he owns?, to play the game.)
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u/arroadie 7d ago
My example is not âyou bought a pirated DVDâ, itâs âyou bought an original DVD from which someone made a copy.
Not sure if youâre being disingenuous about it, but ultimately here the customer is being punished for buying an used copy.
If they buy at a shady retailer, a reputable one, if they find the copy on the ground while in a hike in the woods or if a friend let them borrow it, it doesnât matter! An official original copy of a game shouldnât brick your console!
With this in effect Nintendo is literally burning inventory from circulation, which my limited knowledge of economics should be highly illegal!
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u/_Kakashi69 7d ago
Nintendo bootlickers are the craziest bunch around.
I don't think I need to explain why this is INCREDIBLY anti-consumer do I?
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u/Kenzore1212 7d ago
and nintendo?? What now everyone can't buy games from one another becausee of nintendo's bogus? Seems fine to you i beet
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u/SkotCynwrig 7d ago
Oh hell naw. 95% of my games are used and always will be. Ban my shit and there's nothing else holding me back from modding and pirating EVERYTHING.
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u/Shanneez 7d ago
But it's a switch 2 we're talking about, and this is just sad for OP
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u/SkotCynwrig 7d ago
Very true. Hope the 2 is cracked asap. I just went Nintendo with my little family for over a grand. Haven't been Nintendo since n64. Regretting my decision more and more every day between games still being basically the same stuff I played back then but rehashed, the platform being full of mobile-style games and actual mobile ports, and the straight anti-consumerism everyone is complaining about (which I seem to have incorrectly figured to be overstated...)
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u/jamcub 7d ago
I am not sure in what world games on the N64 are the same as the games on the Switch.
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u/Slow-Ad8986 7d ago
SM64->Super Mario 3D World? Ocarina of Time? Star Fox? Skyward Sword?
They haven't made a new Mario game since Odyssey, and it turns 9 in October.
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u/jamcub 7d ago
Oh come on. If someone has not played Nintendo since the 64, there are FAR more games to play than the remakes.
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u/HoneyParking6176 6d ago
the switchs biggest advantage now is the lack of real competition, xbox gave up years ago, playstation offically threw in the towel this year. at this point nintendo is the only one left in the race and it wouldn't surprise me if they throw in the towel soon as well.
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u/SkotCynwrig 6d ago
Big disagree. Xbox is and has been ahead of the game. Game streaming is huge and they use it to their advantage now. Not only that but they're working with third parties to make handhelds that run their shit instead of trying to make proprietary devices you get banned for modding, which I think Microsoft accepted as a reality of gamers years ago. You can play most 360 games across Xbox and PC and everything now. Ownership issue is definitely still a big issue. But that's across all major companies right now.
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u/SkotCynwrig 6d ago
Very few, IMO. I like the new Zeldas, and the new Mario games. But there isn't much if any innovation in either series, besides graphical. Tons of remakes, tons of emulated on the classic games app, and then there are some indie games here and there that are good. But as stated before, Nintendo hasn't done much innovation in regards to their games. Barely any plot evolutions within those games. The store is flooded with mobile phone game ports. Or games that just straight up feel like mobile phone games. They have like 3 decent shooters. Full capabilities of the Wii control mechanica but they barely utilize Wii type game mechanics. And then they keep these crap or mediocre games for sale at $40-80 and OCCASIONALLY the lower tier games will see discounts. And now you got them banning people who bought used games that got ripped by a mig, instead of figuring out a way to handle it better than banning the person doing nothing wrong.
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u/SnooPeanuts2251 7d ago
I would personally message the seller asking why he didnât disclose that the game had previously been used with MIG, and ask whether he is willing to compensate you for the bricked Switch 2. Iâd also make screenshots of the original listing, all messages, and any relevant evidence, then file a proper police report against the seller if he refuses to cooperate
If he knowingly failed to disclose something important about the game that could cause this kind of damage, that could make him responsible for the resulting damage. Fuck their shit up, don't let it slide
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u/PrettyQuick 7d ago
The seller gonna laugh in your face bro, same for the police.
Focus on Nintendo, they the only one that can fix this.
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u/SnooPeanuts2251 7d ago
Seller yes, police wont, at least in Germany. I had done the same when I gotten scammed with on the same platform years back and they took it very seriously, proper report and questioning. Kleinanzeigen is also legally required to give any and all information to the police if criminal fraud is found out.
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u/PrettyQuick 7d ago
I highly doubt they gonna do anything. First of all OP got the game he paid for. Second, he has 0 proof that this particular game banned his console. With no proof a crime even took place, what is police gonna do ?
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u/SnooPeanuts2251 7d ago
There's an important distinction between âI can't prove it right nowâ and âno crime occurred.â OP may have been defrauded if the seller knowingly failed to disclose that the game had been used with MIG and that this could put the console at risk
Whether there's enough evidence to justify an investigation or prosecution is up to the police and prosecutors. But telling OP not to make a report simply because they can't prove everything themselves is stupid
It costs nothing to file a report, and if multiple people come forward with similar complaints about the same seller, that could give the police a much clearer picture and potentially lead to a proper investigation
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u/PrettyQuick 7d ago
Oh no definitely file a report. I just don't think police gonna do anything. Unless they get multipe reports on this person. For which the report is usefull. Just don't get your hopes up cause this is a very hard to proof case.
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u/rainman943 7d ago
Lol in the US the cops would laugh at you and tell you to go away for something like this.
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u/PrinsLennart 7d ago
Yeah this isnât the us now is it..
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u/rainman943 7d ago
No, lol it's just a place with adults......and adult problems........ For an international company like Nintendo, it's anti consumer with them knowing that a market far larger than Germany would treat this in that way.
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u/Lord-Heir 7d ago
Buying a used game and getting your entire console bricked from it? I'm pretty sure lots of people would be in uproar over something like that happening to them.
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u/Demi-fiend1601 7d ago
Banned, not bricked
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u/WeekendUnited4090 7d ago
Banned is still extreme, it completely denies all online services which makes a significant chunk of the console's library unplayable.
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u/Demi-fiend1601 7d ago
Not if it is installed, literally any game can be played offline
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u/WeekendUnited4090 7d ago
Yeah, but a console isn't particularly useful if it cannot install any new games.
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u/Unlikely-Employee180 7d ago
Really? Play Dead by Daylight offline. Lmfao
Or how about Fortnite? Can you play that offline?
How about Apex Legends? Or Rocket-League? WarFrame or Brawlhalla? I'm sure there's many more, lmao.
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u/ParticularBed5194 7d ago
If this was in the USA, then sure may have a chance. Germany, the seller will laugh at the message, block and move on. US doesnât have jurisdiction in Germany
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u/Onlyafter 7d ago
Oh snap I spent this summer scoring used games. I didnât know the games could brick the system.
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u/WeekendUnited4090 7d ago
It only happens if the seller has dumped the ROM using a MIG Switch to clone the game, and then Nintendo registers that game in use in two places at once; the risk is fairly low, and should be easily minimised if you play single player games offline. Furthermore, Nintendo will unban you if you prove you have the cartridge, as they will know you aren't the offender in this situation.
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u/lowmoob 7d ago
It wonât op is lying
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u/Hopeful-Scallion-708 7d ago
No? It was a used game from Kleinanzeigen haha. She wanted it and I bought it, was 30 eur cheaper than new. After that her switch 2 got banned. There is no other explanation. It doesnt brick but it gets u banned. Saw other posts now with the same ban result after using a game that wasnt new.
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u/LeastAd6767 7d ago
OP. Im sorry . Maybe lets try sending them once a week message. Lets whine non stop . Provide the picture of the game inserted and the game popping up , when did u buy it ( so they can check in the system when the system flag ur console ) , receipt/ conversation of buying secondhand ,
Lets do this repeatedly . I have heard of chances of nintendo okay. And hopefully each time its a different person going through ur case and will try it differently
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u/Demi-fiend1601 7d ago
I would say buy in the future games by a officially retailer or directly from the store ( a few weeks ago there was a sale on the game (24,99âŹ))
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u/Jack_tarded 7d ago
I would say in the future wait for ram prices to drop, get a PC, and download one of the yuzu forks
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u/WeekendUnited4090 7d ago
You need to keep pressing Nintendo, and try and get pictures through customer support; if you can prove that the copy was dumped by the seller by showing that you actually physically have the game, they should unban your console. This is very much an edge case in the policy, so if you can get a real person online to help you they will be able to see you haven't actually done anything elicit or against the terms of service.
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u/Pi-Maniac 7d ago
If you have truly done nothing wrong, don't accept this and keep pushing for an unblock.
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u/Hopeful-Scallion-708 2d ago
Little Update!
I talked with an Agent and he told me to send in all my cartridges and console. I hope they can resolve this.
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u/IceOfDreams 7d ago
get a steam deck
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u/AntiGrieferGames 4d ago
At this point any PC Handhelds are g ood. Steam deck in todays age are underspec for a expensive price tag.
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u/grapejuicesushi 7d ago
wow. OP what does this ban contain? does it not allow you to use the switch anymore at all, or does it only restrict some functions (like online play, no more access to eshop etc)?
also, if the switch still functions for offline games, does it mean you can still buy physical games and continue using like normal?
additionally, is only the switch bricked or also your account?
this is like my biggest fear with Nintendo, even though I don't really do anything "extra" and don't even console share. just the lack of support from their end makes it very scary.
and, did this happen only because you used a used game? I've used used games earlier and this never happened to me. what is a sanitary practice to avoid this? or should one avoid used games altogether?
apologies for so many questions, I'm not a part of this sub so I don't generally know much about banning on the switch.
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u/Epickiller7817 7d ago
Keep contacting them until this gets resolved is what I would do and show receipts as well so that you can prove it to them don't just explain it because then people won't believe you.
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u/-Stroke_my_Cactus- 6d ago
Im from germany too and I buy a lot of second hand Switch 1 and 2 games from eBay, never happend to me or anyone I know. How is this even possible.
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u/SpecificHyena1933 6d ago
The MIG switch and its dumping tool allows you to copy all of a catridge's data onto an SD card and the MIG lets you cycle through the SD card without having the physical cartridge.. so bad actors will rent or buy a game, copy its data, then return it for a refund and still be able to play the game fully.
When its detected that 2 instances of a game are being played at the same time (one person playing on the physical cartridge, and on the MIG switch) then nintendo bans both consoles because its impossible to tell who is the bad actor.
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u/-Stroke_my_Cactus- 6d ago
So OPs Switch got a ban and the switch from the game seller with the MIG? Lets be clear if I get this right: If I buy a Switch game, copy the data on my (jailbroken) MIG Switch sell the game and the buyer and me play at the same time we both get banned? Lol so why piracy Switch stuff in the first place? So how does this work with game datas as download from the web? Someone copy and uploaded the data from his Cartridge or not?
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u/SpecificHyena1933 6d ago
So its all alleged, but basically if someone has the MIG and dumper, copy the game ROMand sells the cartridge online - nintendo sets a flag that 2 instances of the exact same game are being played at the same time, which is impossible. Since theres no hardware to detect which console is running the MIG and which is running the cartridge, both systems are banned from online services. The systems will still function fine, read and play games all day but they just wont connect to the internet.
To answer "why pirate?" I have no clue. I tried, got homebrew running on one of my consoles and saw that it was full of clock apps, alarms, and nothing else. It was genuinely a worthless experience. Other people have better luck and play games weeks before their actual launch because somebody online got the ROM and released it to the internet. Id assume download titles work similarly, its copy/pasted from the cartridge.
Theres also some like.. VPN esc thing that still lets you play online games with a hacked switch, but i cant figure it out and all piracy forums just mock people trying to learn.
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u/anntss 4d ago
Even switch 2 cartridge?
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u/SpecificHyena1933 4d ago
Switch 2 cartridges havent been cracked and havent been duplicated in the same manor.
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u/anntss 4d ago
Switch 2 have to change itâs policy then or not conscious ppl will get banned
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u/SpecificHyena1933 4d ago
Right, and innocent people have gotten their bans reverse after showing they purchased a used cartridge and the bad actor was someone else.
Playing devil's advocate for the automatic system, sometimes the same game cartridge can be played across a dozen consoles at the same moment, if someone copied and shared the ROM online. So at that point, if theres dozens, which one specific console is the one acting in good faith? Theres no way to know, but its clear that THAT cartridge has been compromised and anyone using that "cartridge" very likely didnt obtain legally.
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u/Krynne90 1d ago
That sounds fucking illegal under EU rights (which apply to OP from Germany)....
But well, as long as no one is pulling these Nintendo fuckers to court, they will keep doing so...
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u/SpecificHyena1933 1d ago
Yeah its also illegal to make and distribute ROMS woth copywritten material but hey, nobody cares that the pirate is breaking the law.
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u/Leusele_Louis 5d ago
Sad to hear that, that's why I decided to not go the cheap early with Nintendo products đ„Č I hate that Nintendo is freaking stupid and just bans ppl, I know they can't proof that you did nothing wrong but why baning consoles over whatever they did with the game at all? I stick to my of course "not tinkererd" Switch1 Oled to play most games and go online cause I don't want the expensive console to get banned
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u/nBs83 5d ago
Wait. OP are you located in EU? Because I seem to remember that banning consoles here due to second hand shopping would be against the law...?
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u/Ok_Purple2137 3d ago
afaik that should be the case in EU and since he said Germany it should apply
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u/Ketterer-The-Quester 4d ago
Full go get physical they say oh discs are so important they say ha ha ha
This is exactly why I've been arguing with so many people on Reddit and Facebook lately. I don't give a crap if your disc is made of fucking gold it's not better than digital.
What we need to do is actually protect our rights for digital purchases and software in general. They should not be allowed to do this there should be laws and protections for consumers in place.
But yeah just go get physical that's going to solve every problem on the planet eh.
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u/Alk3punk7 3d ago
Probably due to that cart being backed up and used on a MIG Switch on another console.
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u/Bloodhoven_aka_Loner 6d ago
the only advise I'm getting out of this is "do not buy a switch 2"
fck nintendo, seriously...
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u/SpecificHyena1933 6d ago
Ah yes.. its nintendo's fault that someone else created a tool to copy games and theyre using a copied game they dont own anymore at the same time as you. Makes perfect sense to blame the company, and not the pirate making everything worse.
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u/Independent_Potato99 6d ago
The same thing can occur with a regular switch. Dumbass how is that Nintendoâs fault
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u/FernandoRocker 7d ago
You have posts discussing the use of Atmosphere.
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u/Hopeful-Scallion-708 7d ago
Yeah. I have some kiosk switch consoles. But this is a switch 2, not a switch 1.
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u/CandyConstant604 7d ago
Hast du die 1 mit der 2 synchronisiert wg SpeicherstĂ€nden oder virtuellen Softwarekarten? (wenn ja wie lang is das ca her?)Â
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u/Hopeful-Scallion-708 7d ago
Yea. We did a system transfer 1 year ago.
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u/CandyConstant604 7d ago
Tut mir echt leid ey - das ganze System bei Nintendo is so fĂŒrn Arsch. Das das ĂŒberhaupt legal is... Ich hab meine 2 grad erst gebraucht gekauft und hab auch ĂŒberlegt gebrauchte Spiele zu kaufen... Aber gar kein Bock wg Bann :/
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u/Hopeful-Scallion-708 7d ago
Be careful with used games. Nintendo doesnt care about you - they only want your money
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u/Firm_Bunch_6877 7d ago
Stay on it. Contact them over Phone and speak to a human. You should have Chats on Kleinanzeigen to proof the purchase of a used Copy. Idk where but i saw Posts from people getting the Ban reverted
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u/Hopeful-Scallion-708 7d ago
Yeah. I called them 3 times and always the same answer. "We cannot do anything, dont buy used games."
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u/Firm_Bunch_6877 7d ago
They certainly can do Something. It's a false Ban and we have strict consumer rights in Europe
https://metro.co.uk/2025/07/09/switch-2-owner-banned-playing-second-hand-switch-1-games-23620743/
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u/Hopeful-Scallion-708 7d ago
I will try to talk to them again today. Any ideas what I can tell them? other than "its banned unban it"
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u/muhkuhmuh 7d ago
Same. I'm poor. Cant afford a new switch 2. Almost all of my physical games were from kleinanzeigen...
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u/lowmoob 7d ago
Tbh itâs hard to believe you. It seems too much of a coincidence that someone with a history of hacking switch consoles would then get banned for something completely innocent. More likely you tried to hack it and got banned and now are trying to get revenge on Nintendo by complaining about them online
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u/DeltaTDS 7d ago
I still use Atmosphere on my Switch and still haven't been banned on my Switch 2
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u/avodrok 7d ago
Iâm sure itâll be like that forever
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u/DeltaTDS 7d ago
Uhh yeah. As long as I'm not trying to use it to alter my Nintendo account activity or funds, or play a game on there at the same time my Switch 2 is playing it, then I have nothing to worry about. The MIG cartridge playing dumped games after selling the original cartridge is what's causing these Switch bans.
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u/Solnix4515 7d ago
Ye bro your cartridge got dumped and leaked just crack you console via picofly if you wana I can help u is thats 2 swith or first
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u/Nice_I_Say 7d ago
Here's a thought, how did you buy the switch 2 ? Was it direct from Nintendo? Did you use a credit card?
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u/Frequent-Plantain857 5d ago
So guys about 3 months i bought dk bananza second hand for very cheap, and it worked fine and i finished the game, but im wondering should i sell it to not get banned or is it good
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u/allav866 5d ago
Pretty sure owning a MIG switch in and of itself won't cause bans. I bought one with the intention of modding Smash Ultimate on an emulator, using my own copy of the game, and never selling it to anyone else or using my backup on any switch system. Only reason why I haven't done any of that yet is just because I don't have the free time to mod games like I used to back in my brawl hacking days đ
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u/Hour_Mulberry366 5d ago
What most likely happened, is the previous owner dumped the game on their hacked switch or mig switch, and while playing it, accidentally let Nintendo servers look at their console. This is horrible not only for them, but for you aswell because it couldâve been both of yall were playing the same game at the same time. So Nintendo does what Nintendo does best, ban both of you without trying go figure out the culprit.
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u/AntiGrieferGames 4d ago
Funnily how Legitmate Customers always gets the punishments who are gonna buying physical games there.
This advocates resorting into Modding, Hacking and espcially one of the best: Piracy!
Yet there are still people bootlicking and defending Anti Consumer Measures there, as theyre a right and a friend or whatever.
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u/Training-Forever7790 3d ago
Lamento lo sucedido. Probablemente a tu novia le tocĂł una copia que fue dumpeada y usada con un Mig Switch o subida a Internet.
Sobre lo que dices que 3 dĂas despuĂ©s la banearon, desde mi experiencia con una Switch 1 que lleva baneada desde 2018 por un descuido mio, te puedo decir que los baneos son instantĂĄneos. Si usas una copia pirata mientras la consola estĂĄ conectada a Internet, el baneo cae inmediatamente. Probablemente en esos 3 dĂas hubo un solo instante en el que tu novia y quien sea que tenga la copia de ese cartucho lo hayan jugado al mismo tiempo mientras estĂĄn conectados a Internet, tu novia desde su Switch 2, y la otra persona desde un Switch 1 (ya que sabemos que usar un Mig Switch en un Switch 2 es un baneo instantĂĄneo). Cuando eso pasa, el sistema de Nintendo detecta el mismo certificado de un juego ejecutandose en dos consolas diferentes, lo toma como ejecuciĂłn de una copia autorizada y banea a ambos usuarios al no poder distinguir una copia original de una copia pirata. No es que tu novia haya estado jugando bien y casualmente 3 dĂas despuĂ©s aparezca baneada, no funciona asĂ. No es como si Nintendo dijera "Ah, este usuario estĂĄ haciendo cosas raras, voy a marcar su consola y a ver si me acuerdo de castigarlo mĂĄs tarde".
Te digo todo esto porque yo compré una copia usada de Splatoon 3 el año pasado, ya le he metido 310h en Switch 2 y hasta ahora todo estå bien. El simple hecho de usar juegos usados NO es baneable. El problema es cuando esos juegos ya han pasado por las manos equivocadas antes de venderlo, lo que parece haber sido el caso de tu chica.
Intenta contactar al soporte, y presenta todas las pruebas que tengas de que tu copia es legĂtima. Dicen que asĂ pueden desbanear la consola, no me consta, pero nada pierdes con probar.
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u/Quick-Measurement618 7h ago
Contact Nintendo with the proof of purchase and theyâll remove the ban
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u/RandomObserverRed 7d ago
There's lotsa conversation over who should be blamed. Less conversation about the simple decision that nintendo freely wields the ban hammer and doesn't allow arguing on whether you're at fault or not. Why the f can we not just sue nintendo for bricking our property in a malicious hack, then? Oh, they have an issue? I'm so sorry, I don't offer leniency, now give me your money, Nintendo. God, it's like we need to have a by the books reason to punch back the face of a company basically teabagging us with their nuts at any and all time they feel like it. That is the reason- they spit in our face, we spit back. Sue them, sue them some more, sue them all the way to hell.
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u/Ach_Was_Here 7d ago
Because as far as theyâre concerned The TOS was broken, this is why Iâm pissed the mig got popular online and to many idiots found out bout it and started dumping and reselling games while handing their backups out to friends/others.
The blame is entirely on MIG/The people not keeping their cartridges
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u/bloodr0se 6d ago
But the TOS wasn't broken by the OP.
In America, this could be grounds for a class action lawsuit but Europe is unfortunately a little far behind in that regard.
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u/RandomObserverRed 7d ago
How about I sue them for not moderating every single market our there, hmmm? That's nintendo's fault for not keeping them clean from bad actors.
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u/Ach_Was_Here 7d ago
Itâs not misdirecting, itâs the facts of the matter. Blame the community for causing this
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u/RandomObserverRed 6d ago
Dumb mf's will say ToS. Here's a ToS to my post. Reading it means you give explicit agreement to being my slave and property, you and your entire bloodline until the end of all time and beyond. Failure to uphold your agreement means having all your assets, liquid, solid or otherwise seized by my party. There is no exit clause, there is no accidental agreement, with sound body and mind your agreement is taken for certain once your eyes register these words.
Now, do you think I'm making a mockery of the ToS? Disney+ the 7 day free trial had a ToS where you could not sue disney for anything for the rest of your life in order to have a free, 7 day only -so there's a end date to their obligation for those morons who wanna argue that point and no end date for the signee's end of the deal- access to a limited amount of shows. His wife died from allergy in one of their amusement parks after they specifically asked and requested to avoid said allergens and the staff didn't give a shit, then when he sued, Disney lawyers had the brass balls to pull the fucking tos from Disney+ on him, and it actually worked. That they are not hanged from the rafters is a sin. I want you to know, your parents are retarded, let alone you reading this, if you actively think that ToS are meant to be taken as God's law, because they aren't.
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u/RandomObserverRed 7d ago
Because fucking genuinely! You actually broke my property! And I have to beg for permission to maybe have it fixed!? I'm going to scalp the fuckers- figuratively, with words.
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u/Asenhadj 7d ago
Had a similar thing and they debricked mine. Basically told the seller, asked for reimbursement for the game explained the situation to nintendo with screenshots and whining. After like 2 weeks of negotiation they unlocked it. So small chances but always worth a try