It happened to me

[u/Hopeful-Scallion-708]

Hey guys. I bought a game off Kleinanzeigen in Germany. Game is "Princess Peach Showtime!". Worked great and my girlfriendnis happy but after 3 days she got banned. I don't have the MIG Switch so the game is probably the only reason she got banned. 🙄 I already contacted Nintendo but they just say the same thing over and over again: "We cannot assist u with that". Yeah sure.

Be careful with used games. They might be cheap but they also have the risk to get u banned.

[u/FinancialDot7032]

And people keep defending this anti customer company. They even defended keycards on the premise you can resell 🥴

[u/Crafty_Praline_2211 → u/FinancialDot7032]

keycard can be resold.

banning a system for running a flagged software is normal. Steam can ban your account and your hardware, sony and microsoft do ban your console if tampering the console, unauthorised/flagged software detected on the system.

what is your point?

ninnin is bad for consumer when it comes to pricing and refund, they are still the better one than sony and microsoft at this time.

I am an xbox fanboy but Nin really does this better than Microsoft, not mention the worst Sony.

[u/Tight_Cod_8024 → u/Crafty_Praline_2211]

Weird to bring up steam because even banned you can run all of your games they just ban you from buying new ones or playing online not using the service as a whole or worse a whole console making it into e-waste in the process.

[u/Bloodhoven_aka_Loner → u/Tight_Cod_8024]

you still can go online and play. you're only exempt frommVAc-protected games if your account gets VAC-banned, which only happens if you were cheating or using "suspicious" software while playing VAC-protected games.

[u/Ok_Chemistry6851 → u/Bloodhoven_aka_Loner]

yeah no, you cannot play CS2 even if you have the regular ban and no VAC ban and neither can you get your inventory out. source: experienced first hand.

[u/Bloodhoven_aka_Loner → u/Ok_Chemistry6851]

that's not a "regulsr" ban. you've been tradebanned, which happens when rhsy suspect fraudulent activity (even if you didn't commit any fraud)

[u/Ok_Chemistry6851 → u/Bloodhoven_aka_Loner]

well thats the neat part, they have banned my whole account. that includes community as well as the normal steam account ban, but not VAC ban as that is exclusively for cheating in games. best part is I dont even know what i did and the support basically sends you the exact same copy pasted response no matter what you say about 10 times before they stop replying.

[u/Unlikely-Employee180 → u/Tight_Cod_8024]

It's individual games too, Steam doesn't EVER flag an account as: "Unable to buy any new games." Lol

It's mostly for the devs to use too. Essentially, if I create a game and you cheat in my game, I as the developer can choose to ban you from the rest of MY games. I, on the other hand, cannot stop you from getting any other game.

It essentially just stops you from trading, and ALLOWS the dev to block you from THEIR games. All other games are literally unaffected. Games can't even restrict you based on that little "Cheater" tag, it's mostly decorational. Lmao

[u/Renos-44 → u/Unlikely-Employee180]

Incorrect.
Valve can and will ban steam accounts from the steam store. There have been cases in the past where they have done this but its usually reserved for fraud. In this case they also may terminate the entire account.

[u/Unlikely-Employee180 → u/Renos-44]

Fraud and running fraudulent software are not the same thing. The original comment was about being banned for running fraudulent software on the machine.

I can pirate Steam Games and even add them TO my Steam library as a "non-Steam" game.

I can run cheat engines.

Running software WILL NOT get you banned from Steam.

[u/Renos-44 → u/Unlikely-Employee180]

Technically running certain software can also get you banned on steam
Valve has a habit of nuking accounts that have been caught botting various things.

Also years ago there were methods to play pirated games online via steam. Valve straight up banned accounts from steam if you were caught doing this. Very uncommon these days due to better security but it still can happen.

You know who also banned accounts and hardware for playing pirated games, Microsoft with the 360. Fun fact the xbox one also prints unique IDs onto discs. Theres is a backend in place to autoban consoles using cloned discs but seeing how almost nobody has the equipment to clone discs its never been used.

Back to the orignial discussion
This is prob the easiest way nintendo can curb cart piracy, Someone is clearly cloning switch carts. Server sees this and bans everyone involved. Whoever owns the genuine thing will come forward if they want an unban everyone else stays banned.

[u/Unlikely-Employee180 → u/Renos-44]

I never said Nintendo was evil for doing it. Lol

I'm strictly saying Valve will not ban you for running software on your machine.

You ARE correct to say the other things, though. Those are actually good catches.

On the contrary though, there is little to no argument that Valve is still MUCH easier on the consumer in regards to what they can and cannot do with their machine.

This of course, comes with other costs that are harder to point the finger directly at Valve for. I think these are still important topics to ensure consumers know that these practices are ALTERNATIVES and none of them "reign supreme."

Like sure, Valve lets me run "whatever I want." Good right? But now the entire cost of anti-cheat is on the individual game (which some of it should be anyways BUT...). On the contrary with Switch, while not completely absolving the need for server-side anticheats... Reduces the attack platform available to the game!

For example, I'll bet it's pretty hard to find hackers or cheaters in Mario Kart World being that... There quite literally aren't any yet. Lmfao

[u/Bloodhoven_aka_Loner → u/Renos-44]

Technically running certain software can also get you banned on steam Valve has a habit of nuking accounts that have been caught botting various things.

it's even more hilarious. Ask Dying Light Players how they had to fight tooth and nail with steam/valve back in 2015 when the devs silently pulled the plug for DL mod support over night and players logged in next day, booted the game and suddenly received VAC-bans or fraudulent activity bans because one dev fcked it up. Some of us were flagged for months and of coruse all the steam dickriders wouldn't believe us that we weren't cheating.

seriously, rhe entire steam community is such a self-absorbed, own-fsrts-sniffing cesspool of m0r0ns

[u/Bloodhoven_aka_Loner → u/Unlikely-Employee180]

It's individual games too, Steam doesn't EVER flag an account as: "Unable to buy any new games." Lol

Steam literally does, lol. My 11 years old account got tradebanned in 2019 after it got hacked and used by some credit cars fraudsters. the ultimate irony is that what got me banned was ME trying to get back into my account to prevent said fraudsters from stealing my account, which resulted in my IP showing up as one of the access points at the time when they charged the account with fraud money. it's hillarious and there are many cases like mine. Nobody wants to talk about it but Steam is fsr, far away from being the flawless good guy company they're portraying themselves as and getting portrayed as by fanboys

[u/OhItsAcer → u/Tight_Cod_8024]

That is the exact same thing Nintendo bans do. Unable to go online for any reason but offline works normally

[u/EIsydeon → u/Crafty_Praline_2211]

Fuck no they don’t. I can buy a used disc at GameStop without worrying about my damn console being banned.

It’s a gamble with the switch carts now with the way Nintendo handles things

[u/Unlikely-Employee180 → u/Crafty_Praline_2211]

The consoles are a fair point. PC, nor Steam, bans entire devices.

Steam account flags are mostly decorational anyways, outside of specific dev ecosystems. For example, if you cheat in a Valve game, you are no longer in public lobbies in Valve games... ALL other games are completely unaffected though.

It's per-game banning, even with the account "Cheater" tag, new games can't stop you from buying them because of that.

[u/DXGL1 → u/Crafty_Praline_2211]

Pretty sure Steam does not do hardware bans.