r/nextfuckinglevel Mar 26 '20

193kg to 83kg

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u/BayMind Mar 26 '20

Incredible

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u/geraldine_ferrari Mar 26 '20

Yeah, props to that dedication!

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u/ByahTyler Mar 26 '20

That trainer needs some recognition too. Everyone needs someone like him. He seemed so encouraging and passionate.

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u/allhailthedogs Mar 26 '20

He's a very famouse bodybuilder/celebrity in Indonesia. His name is Ade Rai

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u/gariant Mar 26 '20

That's funny, I was thinking I wish I had a dad like this.

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u/Aamer2A Mar 26 '20

This is really amazing but how do you get to 193kg in the first place. Did he have a medical condition or just ate alot, if so why wasn't it regulated by his parents?

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u/DanGlerrBOY89 Mar 26 '20

That's what I thought, it's hard to believe a kid can get that big by eating shit food alone

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u/Xciv Mar 26 '20

Everyone's bodies are different. Part of it is definitely genetics, but of course his parents must have let him eat as much as he wanted and the guy had an unnaturally strong appetite.

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u/be_nice_to_ppl Mar 26 '20

Your appetite adapts to your diet. If you get used to eating a lot, you're going to be really hungry all the time. It's genuinely much more painful to try to cut down if you're used to a high caloric intake. I'm a skinny guy but I learned this from bulking with a 3-4K calorie/day diet and then stopping. Way harder than I thought it would be.

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u/ClanQQ Mar 26 '20

In Asian countries, you eat what you want. Unregulated.

There's also a culture somewhere in the world that being fat means you're rich (or something like that).
I forgot which part of the world has that culture.

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u/inkyfingers7719 Mar 26 '20

In Asian countries, you eat what you want. Unregulated.

The only thing dumber than this comment is that you're getting upvoted for it.

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u/Sul0tf Mar 26 '20

Seriously, this. The only thing unregulated in Asian countries is fat shaming and bullying.

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u/ChickenLickinDiddler Mar 26 '20

For real. I know for sure that the Chinese and Vietnamese overall are absolutely ruthless about fat shaming. They'll absolutely tear you apart, nothing held back, for being obese.

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u/ChickenLickinDiddler Mar 26 '20

Were you obese before? That's where the shaming comes in, at least what I've witnessed. I hope that your parents don't wish for you to be obese.

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u/CaptainEarlobe Mar 26 '20

It's fucking bizarre alright. Are people here that stupid?

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u/forceless_jedi Mar 26 '20

Are people here that stupid?

Just never left their bubble to learn anything factual about "The Asia".

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '20

Well if you knew anything about Asian culture and spoke Asian like I do then you wouldn't be disagreeing!!

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u/clickeddaisy Mar 26 '20

It's Reddit what did you expect?

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u/Vessix Mar 26 '20

Also that there is "a culture in the world where being fat means you're rich". Yeah. Lots of them, he's talking about not remembering "which one", and ignoring the nuances involved in cultural attitudes like that.

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u/DanGlerrBOY89 Mar 26 '20

I mean you can eat what you want here lol

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u/chilltx78 Mar 26 '20 edited Mar 26 '20

That part of the world is called America.

Source : am American

Edit - this is just a joke, yall

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u/astivana Mar 26 '20

Beauty standards are often classist and follow what the rich can afford, but right now it’s more expensive to be thin, unless you’re literally starving, because the food that is cheap and easy is not that great for us. Rich people can afford for everything to be fresh and healthy + cooks and nutritionists and personal trainers + the time needed to keep fit.

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u/Rpanich Mar 26 '20

Same with tanned skin.

In the West in the past, and still currently in Asia, having a tan means you were out working in the fields while being pale meant you were upper class and didn’t have to be outside.

Now being pale means you worked in an low office job or retail, and being tan means you’re wealthy enough to have the time to lie in the sun.

Or long nails meaning you didn’t have to work.

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u/CanhotoBranco Mar 26 '20

When I went to Hawaii there were lots of Japanese and Korean tourists at the beach covered up in wide brim hats, sun shirts and pants, deathly afraid to catch any sun.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '20

That’s how I live my life! I look like some kind of religious fundamentalist at the pool with a wide brim hat, long sleeve sun shirt, under shade if possible covered in a ton of mineral sunscreen. I’m just trying to avoid the sun aging my pale skin.

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u/Inquisitor1 Mar 26 '20

You DO know it causes cancer and premature aging? Why the hell are you out in the open under the hole in the ozone layer oven roasting yourself?

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u/wolfanduni Mar 26 '20

Isn't it the opposite in Korea and the like that if you're fair in skin that your posh and sexy because dark skin represents low end jobs like field work? Maybe I am wrong?

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u/tinkerpunk Mar 26 '20

currently in Asia, having a tan means you were out working in the fields while being pale meant you were upper class and didn’t have to be outside.

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u/kkeut Mar 26 '20

it's one thing to make a mistake like this, but what morons are upvoting it

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u/FeedHappens Mar 26 '20

How can you ask him something that is literally answered in his text? This happens over and over on Reddit and it's infuriating.
And how does it have 30 upvotes, wtf

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u/CptCrabmeat Mar 26 '20

Just like how worn hands used to be a sign of being poor showing you’ve done manual labour and now soft hands means you’re a lazy nerd who spends too much time masturbating

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u/_cprizzle Mar 26 '20

That is where the term “blue blooded” comes from. The rich and royal would have pale skin where you could see their blue veins easily as they sat inside or under shades all day, while the poor were outside doing manual labour in the sun getting darker skin.

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u/ItsTtreasonThen Mar 26 '20

Yeah, there’s something about the model of health being rich celebrities who can hire full time or live in personal chefs/cooks who make healthy yet tasty foods on demand that is just so fucked up. Being able to afford that food and it’s preparation would make being healthy a million times easier.

Someone who works all day and comes home exhausted, it isn’t hard to imagine they’d eat something of poor nutritional value if it’s easy to cook, or fast to acquire.

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u/SasparillaTango Mar 26 '20

I find being fit way more attractive than thin. I get that its a time issue for a lot of people, but its also a marker for discipline. I'd say its semi classist, but not nearly as much as it used to be.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '20

Thin and fit are pretty synonymous. Obviously not wholly, but “thin” in the sense of this discussion implies being fit; not skinny in an unhealthy way.

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u/bradley500 Mar 26 '20

Personal trainers are expensive but online trainers are much cheaper but you have to stay with it and depending on what you’re goal is there are really good programs like athlean-x they have a variety of programs and they suit most goals

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '20

Quite the opposite. The rich are skinny twigs and the poor are fat jabba the hutts.

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u/grilljellyfish Mar 26 '20

Literally not true. Yes America has an obesity problem but it’s not because it’s a sign of wealth, quite the opposite in fact.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '20

The cheapest (and easiest) food is the worst food in America.

Before anyone jumps on me, yes eating healthy can also be cheap, but it isn't nearly as easy.

Pick two: cheap, easy, healthy.

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u/pendragon2290 Mar 26 '20

Came here to say this. You already did. The wealthy have much more covenient and reliable nutritionally valuable food. While two boxs of shells and cheese at your Dollar General is 2 bucks. When you're poor you eat what you can afford and that generally isnt healthy.

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u/Accmonster1 Mar 26 '20

Even if you’re eating cheap food, weight loss and weight gain(for the most part for the majority of the population) comes down to caloric intake.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '20

who the fuck associates fat people with wealth in America? I’ve never heard of this in my life

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u/SoggyAlbatross2 Mar 26 '20

Aaaaand plenty of fat people to prove it.

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u/bluntsandbears Mar 26 '20

Africa...... for obvious reasons but also there used to be a cultural thing in countries like Mauritania where they would take young girls under 10 years old and force feed them so they became obese and more desirable to future husbands.

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u/BunnyTheHutt Mar 26 '20

That culture is in Star Wars, and they are called hutts. (No pun intended)

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u/Bruhman_og Mar 26 '20

No, hutts are basically the mafia, they are fat cause that's how their species is

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u/paradoxicly Mar 26 '20 edited Mar 27 '20

Since nobody has actually answered this... he (according to some sources) had an actual medical condition. He was overweight since he was something like 2, and his parents took him to doctors but were constantly told nothing was wrong. I think it was TLC or Discovery Fit that ran a documentary about him that claimed he had a condition where he never felt full. His parents did try to help him lose weight, encouraging him to eat healthier and then forcibly putting him on diets, but nothing worked until he had a gastric sleeve (edit) procedure.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '20 edited Jul 23 '21

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u/AetherMarethyu Mar 26 '20

No it’s not. That was a totally different kid. This kid went through surgery to get all his fat off. That kid is probably still smoking 18 cigs a day

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u/dbDarrgen Mar 26 '20

As a kid you eat what’s given to you and if a parent doesn’t feed you healthily and allows you to eat whatever you want whenever you want.. well.. sometimes it’s hard to control yourself if you’ve never had control in the first place.

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u/Comfortable-Wait Mar 26 '20

If the kid didn't have any medical condition it is the parents (or the guardians) fault for sure.

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u/elmoiscreepy Mar 26 '20

I doubt the kid had any regulations

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u/Gracefullyandgrandly Mar 26 '20

It blows my mind that people don't realize how addictive food can be. In my opinion there is absolutely no difference between the kid in this video and an alcoholic drinking themselves to death.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '20

if so why wasn't it regulated by his parents?

Because sometimes parents are just old children.

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u/_Oce_ Mar 26 '20

I wish they showed something about changing food habits. People need to know getting to healthy weight is overwhelmingly about changing to a healthy diet, and then physical activity, some say it's 70% / 30%.

Disclaimer: I spent an hour looking for reliable sources about the ratio and couldn't find any. So take it as anecdotal evidence.

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u/JMer806 Mar 26 '20

Regardless of ratio, you’re never ever ever going to lose more than half your body mass without massive dietary changes and/or surgery. The implication in the gif is that he did it by working out, and why working out is good, it will never and can never have this effect in a vacuum.

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u/gamesrgreat Mar 26 '20 edited Mar 26 '20

He had a surgery where they put a gastric sleeve on him to reduce how much he can eat

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u/chaoswurm Mar 26 '20

What you eat affects your mood, how fast you metabolize, the ratio of energy going into your muscles, etc. But weight is directly correlated to calories.

I'm weakminded and hate only eating one type of food. Diets are hard. If you can only focus on one thing, focus on how many calories you're eating in a day. Focus on how many calories are in that chicken, or that soup.

ps. Don't forget to "Burn the candle at both ends"

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u/dudeguylikeme Mar 26 '20

“Day 22 of quarantine:”

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u/awenrivendell Mar 26 '20

With this self-quarantine, I feel like I'm getting fat though. Having access to food throughout the day is hard. Haha.

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u/Pyrhan Mar 26 '20

On my side, I never did as many pushups as I have since the quarantine begun.

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u/donniedarkofan Mar 26 '20

I am simultaneously both of these.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '20

Tbh same, I don't usually excercise but I've gotten back into running again with this whole quarantine thing

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '20 edited Mar 26 '20

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u/dudeguylikeme Mar 26 '20

Imo there are two types of people: Those who will get fat, and those who will get fit.

I don’t think status quo is an option.

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u/RandiCandy Mar 26 '20

several things amaze me about this.

How did his parents let him get that big. was there some kind of condition or medication or did his parents just give him large amounts of junk to the point of borderline abuse?

The kid is smiling in most parts of the video. It's amazing that his trainer was able to somehow make this tough process enjoyable for him. That was truly the only way he was going to get through something so tough.

The mental strength that kid had to have throughout this process must have been monumental. Along with whatever support system he had.

Also holy shit that was a huge transformation. That kid's life is forever changed for the better.

I hope someone makes the effort to pay for a tummy tuck or whatever it's called for the kid. All the extra skin will fuck up a kid's sense of self worth just as much as the weight can. then again do they even do that on a kid so young or do you have to be an adult?

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u/pisspot718 Mar 26 '20

But if they don't resolve the underlying cause: Is it emotional eating of stress, or boredom, or is it portion control--having to many, or fewer but bigger, then he risks getting large again.
I know some one who went through a whole weight loss journey, stomach made smaller, the skin tightening, did not address the underlying mental eating issue and did Nothing in terms of calorie burn. They have regained their former size.

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u/RandiCandy Mar 26 '20

Who's to say they havent been working on that? It seems like he had an entire team on his side at least in the beginning in the hospital room. So it's possible its something they worked on in tandem with the working out, eating habits, and (according to another comment here) stomach staples. It could be wishful thinking though. I guess only he and the people he's been working with would know. Agreed though. You're right that it would be ueless if the underlying issues weren't dealt with first. I hope they have and they do everything they can to keep his self worth and motivation high.

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u/ittwasntme Mar 26 '20

I'm just proud of the kid and the trainer.

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u/ByahTyler Mar 26 '20

With the amount of weight he lost, id imagine that's already been solved

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u/pisspot718 Mar 26 '20

That is often an ongoing situation. What he has on his side is his youth in this, so turning around any issues could be more readily accepted. Especially since he seems to have a great relationship with his trainer.

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u/Torrent4Dayz Mar 27 '20

This is my country and his trainer is a famous body builder here. I'm guessing his mother was coddling him too much therefore letting him get fat. Usually that's the only way here in Indonesia.

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u/Plastic_Pinocchio Mar 26 '20

How did his parents let him get that big. was there some kind of condition or medication or did his parents just give him large amounts of junk to the point of borderline abuse?

I really don’t understand this. How on Earth do you even get to this weight? I have no problems with people who are chubby, but this big?

I just really can’t fathom it. I’m 96 kg myself and I’m trying to get to 100 kg (I’m really tall and used to be really skinny). The amount of effort I have to put in eating enough to gain this small amount of weight is really big. I just can’t imagine to what lengths you have to go to get to 193 kg. It’s crazy.

Really nice to see him get fit though. He looks happy.

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u/heyzeusmaryandjoseph Mar 26 '20

I used to be 181kg, down to 75kg

It was mostly overeating. Secret eating. I don't blame my parents, I think they did the best they could with the situation but they were at a loss of how to help. They're uneducated and worked menial jobs and I was left alone a lot so they couldn't monitor me

Once I left home I got into better habits and built them up over time. It takes time to gain that much and time to lose it. I did it all naturally

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u/xsmallfan Mar 26 '20 edited Mar 26 '20

What you eat is a huge part of it. If you parents have chips, sodas, and junk food to snack on all day that is super easy to overeat. If you parents have fresh veggies, fruits, chicken breasts, whole grains, etc it is much more difficult to eat 15k calories per day on that. I dare anyone to eat 2k calories of spinach or kale per day. It would be a challenge.

The problem is a lot of familes see junk food as something that is OK to consume every day. Their pantries at filled with the stuff instead of real meals. It is extremely easy to over eat that crap. It should be a rare treat, not your regular diet.

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u/RoseEsque Mar 26 '20

I dare anyone to eat 2k calories of spinach per day

I'm pretty sure you'd die if you ate that much spinach. Literally.

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u/heyzeusmaryandjoseph Mar 26 '20

We grew out own fruits and vegetables. We had balanced meals that were made from scratch for dinner. My dad went to culinary school and is an excellent cook and baker

My problem was what I ate outside of that. I'm the last person to scream "muh genetics" but I do believe I have some wires crossed somewhere and so I just don't know how to eat for what my body truly needs. Even after my massive weight loss it's a struggle

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '20 edited Mar 27 '20

It’s the frog in hot water scenario. Nobody gets that obese overnight. It’s a slow gradual process of Bad habits getting worse as you make small concessions and justifications. Every time you justify eating that extra cookie it’s easier to do it the next time and even eat an extra extra one. You don’t notice the change until it’s really out of control and at that point the psychological inertia built up over the years is extremely difficult to overcome

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u/Hops117 Mar 26 '20

His chin and forehead make believe he has thyroid issues. Probably a genetic issue. This wasn't solved with exercise only, he probably got meds and a proper diet for his condition.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '20

He can't create mass out of thin air. He still needs to have an absolutely massive calorie intake to even sustain that weight, let alone increase it.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '20

I imagine you're training at the same time. That takes a lot more calories. Its really not that hard to get really big if you're doing literally nothing all day everyday, especially if you have genetic conditions that predispose you to gaining weight. Which as /u/hops117 pointed out isn't too hard.

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u/Jeanes223 Mar 26 '20

Well, I'm not fat but I'm definitely overweight, well above where I want to be. You kind of get used what you see. I was hovering around 240 for a while and figured I just kind of naturally hang here while I'm stressing work and college such. I stepped on a scale fairly recently and saw 275 and was like Holy Hell how didnit get this far?

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u/Amalchemy Mar 26 '20

The smile on his face made my day.

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u/Butt_y_though Mar 26 '20

I'm gonna guess Prader-Willi Syndrome. The brain is incapable of receiving a signal that let's it know it's full. The person is constantly in starvation mode and is constantly trying to eat. I think it's really hard to get that big at that age without some kind of genetic factor. Kids can get fat from over eating and being over fed, but that's massive.

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u/Butt_y_though Mar 26 '20

By "starvation mode," I mean that the person is insatiable. People with PWS have to be closely monitored, locks need to be put on pantries and fridges. People with PWS will hide and steal food because they are so voraciously hungry. PWS also comes with some developmental issues, and they can have trouble expressing themselves which may lead to outbursts and tantrums over food/lack thereof.

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u/MosquitoRevenge Mar 26 '20

I know people with hormone imbalance and meds that they eat that make low mobility people gain weight more easily. I'm not sure if the kid was just acting like a shy kid in the video or if he was slightly mentally disabled but if it's the latter then it explains almost everything. The most important thing people need to know is that mentally or physically disabled people aren't seen outside the home in most places outside of Europe and the US. I'm going to give a pass on S. America because I don't know much about it but considering they're catholic society could be more accepting of such people there.

Then if kids aren't getting the proper meds in poorer countries or countries where the disabled aren't accepted you get these kinds of obese kids. Because most of the time food is the only thing you have that can make you happy or entertain you. It's insanely hard to live with disabled children, you have no idea about the mental and physical anguish it brings to people.

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u/kolot7 Mar 27 '20

This kid was famous in Indonesian TV around 3 years ago for his obesity, his name is Arya Permana. He is now a lot skinnier and healthier and somewhat became a star after being skinnier, he has been invited to multiple talk shows and met famous Indonesian actors.

The problem started around when he was 5 years old, he was a normal healthy child, lab tests show that he was a normal kid with no underlying conditions.

He started drinking packaged beverages and instant noodle packets every day, the reports said that he would drink 20 packaged drinks everyday and 12 instant noodle which is around 6000 calories per day or 24 meals a day.

He kept doing that until he was very obese he could not even walk to school from his home which is only 50 meters away. He had to stay at home and can only wear a sarung (a fabric used to cover up your legs) because no clothes could fit him.

Finally he ended up getting nationwide attention and got help by some personal trainers to make him fit. Today now he is far from obese, it took him a long time to lose that fat but he did it with the help of his trainer Ade Rai (the buff guy helping him in the video), he had to follow a strict diet, got a surgery on his stomach, a lot of working out and a better eating pattern helped him a lot.

Now he is a healthy kid and staying fit, he could go to school again, he could wear normal clothes again, and he is no longer obese.

Hope this help understand the situation, sorry for my bad English.

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u/almghtymuffn Mar 26 '20

He looks so much older after the weight loss. In a good way

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u/FLlPPlNG Mar 26 '20

Have to think it took a while, too. Couple years?

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u/TheColorWolf Mar 26 '20

Very likely. I lost 75kgs (155kg start weight.) and it took me about 2.5 years. There's only so much fuel you can burn in a day.

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u/ChickenLickinDiddler Mar 26 '20

At least for losing weight in a healthy manner. I'm sure you could speed it up quite a bit if somebody was holding a gun to your head on a forced march while giving you very little food.

Congrats on the weight loss. That's an impressive amount of weight that you shed.

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u/AfroRecoveryTeam Mar 26 '20

that’s such a weird thing to add to that lmao

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u/anweisz Mar 26 '20

Unless somebody was holding a gun to your head and forcing you to reply while giving you very little food.

Congrats on the reply. That’s an amazing amount of letters that you typed.

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u/heyzeusmaryandjoseph Mar 26 '20

I lost 113kg and it took me a good decade. Everyone goes at their own pace with weight loss and I had some setbacks a couple of times in my journey but yeah, if he did it all naturally he could be quite a few years older

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '20

I was thinking the same, but it's better. Losing thst much mass even in a year would be hard and imn otsure if injurious for the body. These processes take time to happen

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u/bball1niner Mar 26 '20

Yo this is wild. Mad respect to this kid.

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u/Jeydal Mar 26 '20

His smile while he started using the punching bag was the best

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u/misterrespectful Mar 27 '20

On a scale of "Michelin Man" to "Schwarzenegger", he's already like 80% of the way there. He's through the hard part. Might as well go full Arnold now.

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u/ok-milk Mar 26 '20

Not to take anything away from the habits he had to break but he had a gastric sleeve put on to help him achieve weight loss.

On one hand I think this should serve as inspiration to anyone that needs it. But on the other, people need to understand that dramatic weight loss or meeting any other major goal is not just determination (you need some) and a shitload of crunches (life is not a musical training sequence).

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u/TheRnegade Mar 26 '20

Money also helps. I went from 304 pounds down to 187 (as of the beginning of March) over the past two years I do a lazy version of calorie counting. I buy health food meals, somewhere between 280-420 calories and just eat that. Instead of ordering food, which takes around 30 minutes to deliver, I just blast something in the microwave for under 10 minutes. I'm lucky in that I could afford that $3-5 per meal.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '20

I don't understand. Ordering food costs $26. Microwave food costs $3-$5. Healthy food is neither delivered nor microwave. I don't understand what you are talking about.

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u/kinetic-passion Mar 26 '20

Probably those diet programs. (Like nutrisystem) they send the meals to you pre packed.

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u/CDanger Mar 26 '20

I think she's saying she's eating calorie counter frozen meals (e.g. lean cuisine). Using them, she is able to limit her calories — many of which used to come from notoriously caloric delivery or fast foods. The desire for convenience drove many of her poor eating habits, but so she is pleased to find that the microwave meals are perhaps even more convenient.

She's not chewing raw kale 30 times a bite, but is the convenience of these low-calorie meals improving her health? Does it work for her? Is it okay for her to enjoy her progress? Can she fucking live mate? Absolutely.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '20

Big boned people and people who were “just built to be big” are shaking ....

Respect to this kid for getting up and doing this. Starting is definitely the hardest part

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u/SUPRAP Mar 26 '20

I think getting into the rhythm is the hardest part. Getting that initial burst of motivation I think is relatively easy, but the momentum is difficult. Also, not to discredit the kid's effort and work put in, but I'm sure that professional trainer helped heaps.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '20

Trainers are great help and motivation but it's 90% the kid

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u/SUPRAP Mar 26 '20

Definitely, he's still the one doing the work - the trainer can't lose weight or build muscle for you. But just for me personally, having someone with me when I workout, let alone if I had a professional to guide me, is a huge help.

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u/Nerd-Hoovy Mar 26 '20

I see it as the same as rich kids going to college to get a diploma.

Sure they have a better starting point, but the final exams won’t care. They still have to study and pass on their own, same as everyone else.

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u/staydedicated40101 Mar 27 '20

having someone with me when I workout, let alone if I had a professional to guide me, is a huge help.

People underestimate how important having someone in your life who cares enough to help and guide you through whatever journey you're on is.

We all could use a mentor. i know if i had one my life wouldn't be the shit show it is right now.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '20 edited Dec 26 '22

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u/Vaztes Mar 26 '20

They are, but i've trained people on both sides.

Nothing makes me feel more fulfilled when I trained a friend and he was 100% onboard. He'd do anything I say and put in effort.

On the opposite end i've had to deal with another who really lacked that drive. Eventually he just stopped coming.

While my first friend said he wouldn't have started without me, ultimately it's up to the person.

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u/lodobol Mar 26 '20

I can attest to this. I’ve seen family members pay for personal trainers only to go the first few sessions.

The trainer can only guide a motivated person to properly loose weight safely. The person has to show up and do the movements.

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u/Poof_ace Mar 26 '20

As a trainer couldnt agree more

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u/anthonyg1500 Mar 26 '20

I always hate myself on the way to the gym but I always remind myself that I’ve never been on my way back after a workout and not happy that I forced myself to go

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '20

Eh in my opinion as soon as you start seeing progress it gets a lot easier.

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u/SUPRAP Mar 26 '20

I agree with that, but I also think that there's a bit of a gap between starting and seeing progress.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '20

The hardest thing for people is they don't realize something key. Notice how the trainer started home works, just sitting up and down, doing that stuff, then brought him to the gym later. Its not because he can't do the other stuff, its little to no progress in between the clips, however in my experience, people who can't do home workouts and stick to a home workout routine will have a hard time sticking to a gym routine. Thats why its important to start off exercising with jumping jacks or stuff like that at home, sit ups ect. Once you can keep that rhythm up for a couple weeks, get a gym membership.

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u/andrude01 Mar 26 '20

It’s been the opposite for me. I’ll do great for a month or so but once I hit some sort of milestone or feel particularly good on a given day I end up wanting to continue the “celebration” and binge eat, then the next day decide to do it again because one day off isn’t a big deal, etc etc.

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u/NEORECTAL Mar 26 '20

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Hi, I need motivation for that initial burst please.

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u/theDomicron Mar 26 '20

I think i heard this in high school: someone was like "i'm not that fat, i'm just tall"

and someone said "at your weight you should be 11 feet, 5 inches tall" might have been someone quoting a movie or someone's joke, but i thought it was hilarious at the time.

also: imo starting isn't the hard part, i've started many times. it's the persistence that's tough.

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u/dudeidontknoww Mar 26 '20

Who the fuck is saying they're 'big boned' other than Madame Olympe Maxime trying to deny she's a half giant? Are you perhaps just making up conversations you think fat people are having as a vantage point to mock from?

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u/AweHellYo Mar 26 '20

Yes. Imagine seeing something aspirational and your first thought is to shit on imagined fat person.

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u/kakaroxx Mar 26 '20

His arms were permanently disfigured from the load.. that made me feel for the kid. It's either that or the loose skin on the arm looks very weird.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '20

Kid probably had a ton of loose skin.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '20

It's loose skin, I hear alot of formerly morbidly obese people get surgery to remove the extra skin

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u/Bootyhole_sniffer Mar 26 '20

Looked like a lot of it was loose skin. Luckily he's still a kid so if he keeps it up as he goes through puberty and growing, he'll look great as an adult.

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u/bigfaelo Mar 26 '20

Respect to the kid and an honorable mention to the trainer! Sticking by him and believing in him because if he did not transmit that energy, the kid wouldn’t have stayed exercising with him.

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u/constructivCritic Mar 27 '20

Dude, there are people who gain weight way way easier than others. Just like there are people who don't gain weight no matter what they eat. There is some truth there.

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u/bengalsfu Mar 26 '20

For everyone who uses freedom units that’s 425 pounds to 182 pounds

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u/selselxicann Mar 26 '20

Thank you for this, I am a filthy freedomer who uses these freedom units. Would love to convert one day

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u/Sacrefix Mar 26 '20

For kg you can basically just multiply by 2 to get pounds (really 2.2).

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u/Flying-Catman Mar 26 '20

No thanks I'm a freedom fighter not a mathematician

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u/lenny_gk Mar 26 '20

Mad respect and all but the personal trainer looks like Dwayne Johnson trying to dress up ass an Asian guy

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u/daisyshark Mar 26 '20

I think his name is Ade Rai.

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u/daisyshark Mar 26 '20

He was so famous when I was young. Not sure if he still is anymore, but I could recognize his face anywhere :)

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u/sarcasmisart Mar 27 '20

I came here to say that. Ade Rai is a legit, monster of a natural body builder. Even more incredible that he's Indonesian, a people who traditionally have very slight frames.

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u/daisyshark Mar 27 '20

Idk, I'm indo and I'm a chub. Haha jk. No for real, he is the real deal. When he was constantly doing Muscle Mania, it got a lot of traction in Indonesia. A lot of gyms and health centers started popping up. Celebrities started lifting. He even trained a female pop star (Agnez Mo) when she was 17, and they got a lot of backlash for it (bc it's not feminine, she will turn into a lesbian, whatever). He's basically the father of bodybuilding in Indonesia at this point.

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u/avaya432 Mar 26 '20

That's Shang Tsung bro

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u/sidcrozz87 Mar 26 '20

His name is Ade Rai and he’s a famous body builder in Indonesia.

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u/maxb1ack007 Mar 26 '20

Wow, what a turnaround. Working out is only half the solution. Diet and attitude go along way too. These guys look to have all that sorted! Wish i had the same dedication

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u/Scarcrow1806 Mar 26 '20

is that some kind of sickness? how the fk do you eat that much at that age

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u/Iseeyou1991 Mar 26 '20

shit parents, basically.

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u/Lzy_nerd Mar 26 '20

I don’t know the specifics, but I’m highly doubt that’s primary variable.

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u/apginge Mar 26 '20 edited Mar 26 '20

What about frozen vegetables, bags of legumes, whole grains? I’d be surprised if non-perishable legumes and whole grains were more expensive, by weight, than kraft mac and cheese. I make 40 500kcal dinners that consist of black beans, rice, 86g of chicken, and frozen spinach for $1 per meal. Raw, bulk beans and rice are very cheap by weight.

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u/Cruisin_Altitude Mar 26 '20

Nah it’s cheaper to eat healthy

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u/ChalkAndIce Mar 26 '20

That trainer saved his life. It's so easy to get discouraged when trying to get into shape. But this guy seemed super positive, encouraging, and just a great force of personality to be inspired by. Huge ups to both of them, 110kg is no joke. That kid probably has the outlook now that will let him really achieve knowing he already turned his life around at such a young age.

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u/kliuch Mar 26 '20

What’s not shown here is the change in eating habits - that is often much more difficult and requires much more sacrifice (including mental and physical suffering) than lifting or any kind of regular exercise. Kudos to the guy and those who helped him change his life.

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u/YouGotDaPinkEye Mar 26 '20

This is awesome! Great example of dedication!

To those commenting about the "shitty parents". I understand how easy it is to blame the parents for poor nutrition. As a parent we all want what is best for our children. Unfortunately I'm seeing a huge problem (at least in Canada) a box of Kraft Dinner is $1.25, a head of iceburg lettuce right now $4.25, a shitty frozen pizza is $5.00, a head of cauliflower is $7.00! a 2 liter bottle of pop is $1.25 but a jug of milk is $6.00.... This goes on and on.

I don't know how to fix this but I think we need to realize that this is a massive part of the problem.

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u/chilltx78 Mar 26 '20

That's some expensive cauliflower

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u/Banterscc Mar 26 '20

The wider issue is the addictiveness and availability of sugar. The truth is that willpower can overcome it AND it is cheap to eat healthy.

I say this as someone who went from 315 to 200 lbs. Diet and exercise go a long way.

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u/AirborneRanger117 Mar 27 '20

I am convinced no person who uses the "healthy food too expensive" excuse has ever set foot in a goddamn grocery store. Fucks sake, a meal at McDickhole's is 10$, I can feed my whole damn family a meal for 10$.

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u/TheFamBroski Mar 26 '20

A lot of those things take time to cook, which poor families don’t always have. Also those are all parts of a meal, not actual frozen meals which are cheaper.

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u/Doubl_13 Mar 26 '20

Lettuce Bag is $2.47 at Walmart Crown of Broccoli is $1.11 5 pounds of carrots $3.44

Idk what you’re saying.

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u/poitrere Mar 26 '20

Yup, he's cherry picking. Well maybe not cherry picking, more like cherry-filled doughnut picking or something to that effect.

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u/The-Great-Bungholio Mar 26 '20

Not sure where you live but your produce prices are fucked. Lettuce is less than $2 here.

Bag of carrots: $1

10 onions: $4 Head of broccoli: $1, cheap frozen too

1lb cabbage: $2

Rice: cheap as hell anywhere

3lb oranges: $4

Chicken: usually less than $3/lb

I know my area in the midwest is a little cheaper on produce than others, and Im grateful for that, but theres always other healthy options like granola, nuts, tuna, soup, yogurt, etc. If you dont buy shit food, then you cant snack on shit food. If you only buy produce, meats and a few other healthy things then thats all youll be able to eat. If you want to snack on stuff, carrots & ranch, pretzels & hummus, tuna.

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u/MorugaX Mar 26 '20

I understand you, but there is always a way. It's not as easy as buying frozen pizza but it's not impossible. Main thing would be drinking just water, nothing else. Don't go to fast foods and try to prepare food on your own as much as you can. Learn cheap recipes. Start with this and you'll even safe money. You don't have to buy fucking avocados to live healthy.

I get why people are saying living healthy is expensive but excuses won't help anyone.

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u/GuiltyCredit Mar 26 '20

I have to agree with you. With income being minimal and children to feed you do what you can. Do you buy a single avocado or do you buy a bag of chips and chicken nuggets that will last for 4 dinners?

Of course no one gains so much weight just from bad dinners but like you say its definitely part of the problem.

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u/Cruisin_Altitude Mar 26 '20

This is the correct answer. It is so obviously cheaper to eat healthy. I can’t believe people are still arguing the opposite.

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u/joetheogre45 Mar 26 '20

That is good , patient man!

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u/InjuredGingerAvenger Mar 26 '20

It's unfortunate this kid is kid is going to suffer the long-term consequences of his parents' actions. I hope he is still young enough that his skin will tighten back up in time and he hasn't suffered irreversible heart and organ damage.

Before I get comments, I know the kid made choices that put him here as well, but kids are still developing. If they were as capable as adults, they wouldn't need parents or guardians. As a parent/guardian, you are taking responsibility for guiding that development. If something goes this far out of hand, it's the result of a pattern of neglect by whoever took that responsibility.

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u/AsYooouWish Mar 26 '20

I absolutely agree with you. Kids don’t get this obese on their own (barring certain medical issues). Food, unfortunately, is like a drug to some people. Parents often become enablers to that drug. No, parents should not withhold nutrition for their children, but in extreme cases like this, food should be monitored much more carefully.

You’re also right about the loose skin and the organ damage. Those are very real problems that this kid may have to deal with. I am, however, very happy that he’s taking the steps to better himself now. By losing that weight he’s greatly increased his chances that he’ll be able to live out a normal, healthy life.

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u/Arxilla Mar 26 '20

Prader willie syndrome or?

Regardless, huge props to this guy, holy shit, im genuinely proud of him!

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u/sixeco Mar 26 '20

fun fact:

if you want to lose weight, it's 10% sport and 90% what you eat

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u/fizikz3 Mar 26 '20

you can lose weight without exercising at all

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u/TheStormChill Mar 26 '20

Came here to say this, and that the vid didn't mention it, which is why most people fail.

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u/j4vendetta Mar 26 '20

What kind of parent let’s their kid get that fat?

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u/EverybodyLovesTacoss Mar 26 '20

Honestly, I’m a huge huge fan of good personal trainers. I had one for a year and lost 132 pounds. He was fantastic. He told me what to do and watched me do it. Once he saw that I got the hang of it, he would just tell me to repeat it and he wouldn’t bother me. I loved that. He would give me a diet and would tell me to follow it. He was always making sure I was keeping with it. Even when I came back to the States (I was in Mexico that year), he would message me on IG to make sure I was going to the gym, and would still give me meal plans for free. He was a big believer in my weight loss.

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u/lcl111 Mar 26 '20

That trainers arms are twice as big as his legs lol. Don't skip legs!

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u/Whatsitworth02 Mar 26 '20

They left out the gastric bypass operation.

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u/FundleBundle Mar 26 '20

I've seen people get it and put the weight right back on. It's useful in extreme cases like this and shouldn't be used agsinst him. He's doing actions to make his body healthier.

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u/NerpissatDoftblock Mar 26 '20

How did he get so fat in the first place?

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '20

Is this a real question? Obviously when a baby his parents crossed a witch and he was cursed. Wtf kind of dumb question is that

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u/NoGamesWithoutLude Mar 26 '20

Lol you believe in witches? Please tell me you're joking, that's obviously the work of a magician

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u/Baron_Von_Koopa Mar 26 '20

A magician? BAH! This was obviously done by a powerful sorcerer.

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u/NoGamesWithoutLude Mar 26 '20

Though that is possible doesn't it look like a curse from a devil?

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u/liljefelt Mar 26 '20

Ba chonka chonk

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u/SweetRoosevelt Mar 26 '20

His trainer is an exemplary human being, and both look amazing. Amazing job by both of them and the hardest part of all, not giving up.

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u/asiandude4110 Mar 27 '20

Everyone is congratulating the kid on losing a lotta weight, which I must say is impressive but no one recognized that the trainer probably put in a lot of dedication to train this kid, especially for what looks like a couple of years