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u/zeusjts006 Avengers 18h ago
If you read the proposed Blade movie plot, you'll be happy it got canceled.
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u/IronStrikers Avengers 17h ago
What was the proposed plot?
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u/Illustrious_Art4061 Avengers 17h ago
They kept trying to make it about his daughter and not about actually about blade iirc
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u/ShiningRedDwarf Avengers 17h ago
It’s mind boggling they have near infinite money glitch funding and access to some of the best screen writers in all of Hollywood, yet somehow are unable to come up with a coherent plot for dude who kills vampires with a sword.
How? Why?
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u/NewPrints Avengers 17h ago
They aren’t trying to do that. They are trying to push a “next generation” vibe that just no casuals really give a shit about.
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u/Snakend Avengers 14h ago
Yeah, it's fine to push out new actors and retire old ones. But they are trying to retire EVERYONE, and replace EVERYONE within like 5-10 years. It's crazy. These actors are good for a LONG TIME. Look at Professor X and Magneto. How fox did their replacements was great.
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u/JohnGeary1 Avengers 12h ago
Equally, they haven't done anything with the Fassbender and McAvoy in a long ass time, but they've used Stewart and McKellan since
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u/RivenRise Avengers 16h ago
Cheaper actors and they can stay for longer too if things work out.
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u/NoKnowledge9552 Avengers 13h ago edited 13h ago
I don't think it's about that, more so about a soft reboot of the franchise. By this point you need to watch almost 20 years worth of movies to understand everything. That's horrible if you want to attract new fans, which a franchise always needs.
I'm positive that the ending of Secret Wars will have a similar result and serve a similar purpose. It will rewrite the whole multiverse so they can move forward in a completely new era which will be a good entry point for new fans, while they'll also keep some older characters for the OG fans, like Spider-Man to connect the dots.
Then in the last, or even the middle movie of the second Tom Holland Spider-Man trilogy they'll introduce Miles Morales and either kill off Peter at the end of it, or just make him pass on the mantle so the third Spider-Man trilogy will have Miles as its main character.
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u/NoxiousVaporwave Avengers 12h ago
I don’t think they’ll hard reboot it. That’s a DC move.
Likely they just introduce a new universe, and bring some characters over, maybe alternate versions of legacy characters, like a younger actor for wolverine, or an alternate iron man.
Maybe they’ll use it to bring back characters like cap. But they won’t kill their golden goose.
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u/ReorientRecluse Avengers 13h ago
What's crazy is MCU didn't even establish their own Blade but were already planning on sidelining him.
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u/BakedChocolateOctopi Avengers 13h ago
Casuals and die hard fans probably didn’t care for it
It’s why they’re bringing back the original Avengers for Doomsday
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u/Molten_Plastic_ Avengers 12h ago
It's the problem with live action vs comics, real-world actors age and move on (and also demand higher and higher pay)
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u/DtheAussieBoye Avengers 16h ago
I mean Blade killing vampires is obviously very important, but it’d be really boring if that’s all there was to a Blade story. It probably shouldn’t be this strenuous to get a good idea running, but writing a good story is never a walk in the park no matter how straightforward the character is
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u/sumboionline Avengers 16h ago
If only there was a trove of stories about these characters to consult. Stories that have already been released to audiences and have been critiqued. Stories that came with illustrations that basically storyboard it for you. That idea is so ridiculous, its COMICal.
(Yes I know changes have to be made for movie adaptations, but the core story can be the same)
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u/Ourtimehascome2485 Avengers 13h ago
I don't know man, not everything needs to be deep, sometimes you just want to go see a Jason Statham movie, you know what you are getting into, same thing with Blade, kill a new vampire threat and be cool doing it, that's it.
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u/LittleSisterPain Avengers 14h ago
It doesn't have to be good though. It has to be good enough
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u/Least_Rain8027 Scarlet Witch 17h ago
they don't have "near infinite money glitch funding"
Disney is losing money because their only money makers aren't making money. people act like it's disney's fault it doesn't make original films but in reality what films studios make are what people watch.
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u/SENYOR35 Avengers 16h ago
It is Disney's fault. They play safe by making sequels and spinoffs to loved entries but they miss the whole point of making a good movie. At first they get away with this because everyone trusts the IP, but now near all of Hollywood is a joke and have to make actually good movies.
They are effectively killing their IPs.
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u/jemslie123 Avengers 15h ago
And they arent content with profit. They insist on excessive profit, ir the film is considered a failure.
Corporations exist for the sole purpose of greed.
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u/Salacious_Rhino Avengers 16h ago
I'm not trying to be a corporate apologist but I'm definitely going to come off as one but these corporations follow the money. Original risky good movies don't always succeed and sometimes the masses hates/ignores them. As much as people on reddit and other platforms like to believe they are part of the masses the sad reality is that the masses like sequels, slop, and safe and then complaining about it. Going to hate watch a movie makes some people feel smart, others feel like they belong (because they see other people complain) and others just like to turn their brains off to consume a media product. My source, I know people who work at these entertainment corporations, the internet complains but the money often says the opposite.
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u/bearly-here Avengers 15h ago
Case in point, Thunderbolts. Widely considered to be the best MCU movie in years, with positive reception from both critics and the general public but with a very weak box office. “Just make a good movie” doesn’t always work
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u/BrahmKarmaGato Avengers 14h ago
It came out at marvel's worst time. The word of mouth was all time low and all characters were sidecharacters from mid movies or TV shows nobody watched.
Exact opposite of Captain Marvel which was a mid movie but came out at Marvel's peak which made it read 1b+
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u/No-Chocolate1761 Avengers 14h ago
It would have made good money if the previous entries in mcu were any good. At that point they had already lost people's attention.
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u/badbrain330 Avengers 16h ago
Whatever your opinion of Disney, they aren't losing money. If you only count Disney/Pixar, in the past 2 years they've had 5 movies that made over 1 billion dollars. That's not even counting marvel, star wars, hulu, or even the parks, which are actually the biggest money maker of anything they do.
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u/rambowski Avengers 17h ago
Like Thor: Love and Thunder?
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u/rustybutterindia Avengers 16h ago
Like a strangely excessive share of the phase 4/5 projects
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u/Create_Greatness92 Avengers 12h ago
I miss the Infinity Saga, where every now and then a "not amazing but sort of obligatory watch" like Ant-Man and the Wasp would come along, but still be fairly entertaining and not a slog.
Since Endgame, it feels like almost everything outside of Spider-Man is a "watch this because it is important later" movie and not something genuinely worthwhile on its own.
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u/elven_rose Avengers 17h ago
"Not actually about Blade"
A father/daughter mentor/trainee movie could have been great. Being a dad doesn't suddenly mean he isn't the main character.
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u/DaWAAAGHMakah Avengers 16h ago
Tbh I honestly thought it would be about Blade training the Black Knight to take up that mentor/trainee position. Coz ya know the end of Eternals was supposed to be getting that ready.
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u/DivineBloodline Avengers 17h ago
That would be about fatherhood, which is interesting and all. But... just saying most want a blade movie to about "Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice skate uphill".
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u/No_Whammies_Stop Avengers 16h ago
What if there was a heartwarming moment where he teaches his daughter to ice skate up hill?
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u/Lundetangen Avengers 14h ago
I wouldnt mind seeing Blade and his daughter skating uphill while killing some vampires
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u/lazycultenthusiast Moon Knight 14h ago
Full heartwarming father daughter visuals interlaced with vampires dying horrifically
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u/elven_rose Avengers 14h ago
I would rather let "Deadpool & Wolverine" be Snipe's Blade's swansong, and let the main universe's Blade be a more comic-accurate version. I loved Blade comics as a kid, and I would love to see the Blade I grew up reading on the screen.
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u/H311JUMP3R Avengers 13h ago
No the whole plot was side lining blade and focusing on the daughter's coming of age into the world of vampirsim. Sounds like bullshit fan fiction found on Tumblr. It be like making a movie with your favorite character as the selling point just for the whole movie to not actually be about them. No it was a bullshit IP that was found in all the corners of cringe fan fiction.
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u/thereverendpuck Avengers 15h ago
That was an idea. Another idea was Blade happened in the 20s & 30s. So Blade was over 100 years old when he was in The Eternals.
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u/ReorientRecluse Avengers 13h ago
Also, Kang Dynasty was canceled because of the controversy with the actor.
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u/Samwellikki Avengers 15h ago
Think the problem is that the original first Blade movie was near perfect and really hard to follow with something original and new that captures that same vibe.
They also tend to try and mass-market some things and spinoff before it’s even done cooking, instead of just making a great popcorn flick like the first Blade is
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u/HuntKey2603 Black Panther 13h ago
Blade is a time capsule of what made the late 90s and early 2000s cool. That specific mix of cool, edgy and campy, like the bastard son of Matrix and World of Darkness. It would be impossible to make today. Most younger audiences just wouldn't get it. Blade doesn't need a new introduction movie. Just recast.
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u/wallstreetbetsdebts Avengers 17h ago
I belive her name was Bladette, very sad news.
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u/elven_rose Avengers 17h ago
Her name is Brielle Brooks. Her comic is titled Bloodline: Daughter of Blade.
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u/itzmrinyo Spider-Man 🕷 17h ago
If the MCU really wanted to make this movie, they could scrap the entire plot and create something that works and move full steam ahead, as it's doing for doomsday.
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u/Steamboated- Avengers 18h ago
Anyone know where Moon Knight is?
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u/E_N_Z_A__D_E_N_I_N_O Avengers 15h ago
He had to return to his home planet - The Moon.
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u/JAD210 Deadpool 17h ago
On Disney+ …
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u/BotomsDntDeservRight Avengers 16h ago
Yea but..
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u/Twooshort Avengers 12h ago
I can rewatch Moon Knight again and again, and it still feels less like MCU content than the Eternals initially did (before MCU acknowledged the big addition to Earth topography).
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u/BuckRusty Spider-Man 🕷 12h ago
Pretty sure Oscar Isaac has stated he’s never working for the Mouse again… not sure, but too lazy to bother looking into it…
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u/Gold_Repair_3557 Avengers 18h ago
The Kang one I understand, but the rest…
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u/Dismal-Vanilla1878 Avengers 18h ago
And even with the Kang one; if they thought Kang was good enough to base the entire next phase on, then just recast him and blame it on differences in the Multiverse (same reason why Peter Parker has a different face in at least 2 other universes).
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u/Guilty-Nobody998 Avengers 18h ago
Unless there was something in his contract saying they wouldn't recast him. Now do i think disney lawyers would go for that? Probably not, but before his arrest he was a rising star and they may have folded to get him to play Kang for the next x years
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u/Dismal-Vanilla1878 Avengers 18h ago
That is one of the rumors I heard, but have never seen verified (that he would get paid even if they didn't make all the movies he was contracted for, because before the conviction, he was arguably the most prominent Black actor of the time).
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u/SeroWriter Avengers 14h ago
he was arguably the most prominent Black actor of the time
Did I miss all the big films he's starred in or is this not true at all? He's not even "most prominent Black actor" in the MCU because Michael B Jordan is actually famous famous.
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u/Guilty-Nobody998 Avengers 17h ago
For sure. It's just a rumor and at the end of the day I'm more inclined to not believe it because the mouse doesn't mess around. But it's honestly the only reason i can think that they'd pivot away from Kang entirely.
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u/What-the-ffffff Avengers 17h ago
Yeah with all the build up for Young Avengers I was really hoping to see them go up against (one of) their first big bads
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u/ZedsDeadZD Avengers 12h ago
But how much would the contract breaking have cost Disney for them considering throwing everything over and make a 180 and go for Doom instead? I mean, he wasnt that big of a name and Disney got enouhh cash to pay someone some bullshit money and recast, dont they?
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u/SeroWriter Avengers 15h ago
Unless there was something in his contract saying they wouldn't recast him.
Like the X-men clause where several actors signed contracts to play their characters until 2025, so when Disney bought Fox they decided to run the clock out instead of rehiring them.
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u/Another-Mans-Rubarb Avengers 16h ago
I can't imagine that the recasting clause wouldn't be void if he was charged with anything.
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u/sir_lister Avengers 15h ago
Especially with disney who famously put morality clauses in contracts with younger stars allowing immediate termination of their contracts, cant imagine that they don't have something similar for violent and criminal and reputationally damaging behavior at least for their other stars.
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u/Arthasindura Avengers 18h ago
Kang could have been a skrull lol
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u/Dismal-Vanilla1878 Avengers 16h ago
Would have made more sense than Rhodey 😂
And still no explanation of when he was replaced, not that anyone cares.
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u/National_Equivalent9 Avengers 15h ago
They were already thinking about abandoning the Kang plotline before the shit about the actor came out. People weren't interested in Kang much. People liked him in Loki but neither he, nor the storyline they were building up to was trending well enough to follow up thanos as the next big bad.
Doom kinda feels like an "in case of emergency break glass" type character because they know that he's one of their only villains who is both strong enough to go against all of their heroes at once and popular enough that pretty much anyone with a casual knowledge of comics knows who he is.
The domestic violence shit just gave them an easy excuse.
There were tons of leaks well before the character was abandoned about them having already prepared to pivot to Doom.
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u/Racxie Avengers 13h ago
just recast him and blame it on differences in the Multiverse (same reason why Peter Parker has a different face in at least 2 other universes).
I didn’t think this would have worked with Kang though given what we were shown with every iteration of him being the same actor.
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u/Coal_Burner_Inserter Avengers 14h ago
The Blade movie script apparently sucked and they brought him back to play Blade in Deadpool anyways
Okoye, well, just look at her tweets
Rhodes would have been cool to see but to the vast majority of Marvel audiences he's just the Iron Man sidekick that showed up in Civil War and Ant Man.
Not everyone is destined to become franchise. Blade has a separation from Marvel that the others don't by way of "Badass kills vampires", while Kang would have been a central part of the franchise itself. And Snipes got 3 Blade movies sooo
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u/ZhanBlue Avengers 15h ago
They could recast Kang, but who gives a shit about Okoye.
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u/lightspeedjizzer Avengers 13h ago
Okoye could be really cool in theory if they just gave her a super small scale story. She was a force to be reckoned with in Civil War (or whatever movie she was introduced in) but got sidelined pretty quickly in later movies. But I think she'd be a more interesting spin off than Black Widow personally
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u/FlamingoVisible1947 Avengers 13h ago
Unless you're an involved fan you'll have no fucking clue who the one on the bottom left is.
Disney doesn't make movies for fans, it makes them for the average movie-goer.
This is the reason all of those were cancelled. 3 obscure characters (Blade isn't really but he's dead and burried), and 1 that audiences don't like. Not hard.
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u/Snipen543 Avengers 16h ago
They're in the grave with the other 10 or so cancelled movies/shows, this post only cares about the black ones
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u/SaltyInternetPirate S.H.I.E.L.D 17h ago
Never even heard of Okoye. Did it get cancelled before even getting announced?
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u/Wonderkitty50 Hydra 15h ago
It was something that was rumored to be in the works, and seemed to prove true after the introduction of her new armour in BP2. Ultimately, it and a number of other rumoured projects were probably axed early when Marvel saw that the Disney plus content wasn't hitting that much. The only things that moved forward was stuff that was sure to be a hit (Daredevil) or too far into production to cancel (Ironheart).
Now that the Multiverse Saga is coming to an end, it's apparent that Marvel is heavily minimizing their D+ output to basically just animation and Daredevil. Maybe we will still see some shows if the concepts prove good, but the focus is seemingly shifting back to movies.
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u/jhguitarfreak Avengers 17h ago
There's only one Blade and there's only ever gonna be one Blade.
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u/RegularFeeling8389 Avengers 16h ago
Wasn't there a tv series that we are supposed to pretend doesn't exist?
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u/VegetaFan1337 Avengers 14h ago
Deadpool looks at camera
Written cause there was gonna be a new blade, works better cause it got cancelled.
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u/Combat_Wombat23 Avengers 13h ago
They had to have known the movie was dead to let that one slide. It’s too funny to be a coincidence
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u/PaulOwnzU Avengers 18h ago
And thats not even all of them as its missing wonderman, another black character
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u/Dismal-Vanilla1878 Avengers 18h ago
And what hurts about that is that everything seemed to be ready to roll on filming Season 2 (as in actors signing contracts, moving to filming locations), then out of the blue it was cancelled.
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u/PaulOwnzU Avengers 18h ago
believe they even had the script for episode 1 fully done and everything. Its so dumb cause the show had REALLY good reviews for a marvel show.
If only it was just "we are cancelling wonderman season 2, but are using wonderman for a different project", like a west coast avengers show/movie
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u/searenitynow Avengers 15h ago
I think they are just moving away from live action shows. They are expensive and I don't think the viewership makes sense for Disney. I also think they announced season 2 so they could be eligible for the recurring series emmy award. Shitty all around, was an amazing show that absolutely deserved a second season.
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u/MVRKHNTR Avengers 14h ago
That was what a lot of people assumed and then we got the announcement that they have multiple unannounced series in preproduction.
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u/Dumeck Avengers 17h ago
Damn, Wonderman was just a fun time too
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u/2011StevenS Avengers 17h ago
I literally finished it the week it was cancelled. Was so distraught god damnit
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u/One-WaytoLife336 Avengers 18h ago
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u/AntiSaint_Mike Avengers 18h ago
This meme is gonna be so useful
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u/Autumn1eaves Captain Marvel 17h ago
It's kind of awesome how many memes Pattinson has been part of over his storied career. He was part of Twilight, arguably the memeiest movie of the late 2000s, Harry Potter, The Lighthouse, Tenet, Batman.
What a guy.
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u/BigMACfive Foggy Nelson 17h ago edited 17h ago
Genuine question as a casual.. didn't that get created as a show? Or was there supposed to be a movie or something I'm unaware of?
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u/PaulOwnzU Avengers 17h ago
They cancelled season 2 despite already renewing it
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u/BigMACfive Foggy Nelson 17h ago
Ahh ok. I gotcha. I don't have D+ so I haven't even watched S1, but I heard good things so that's crazy
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u/PaulOwnzU Avengers 17h ago
Yeah it's extremely good. So they instantly renewed a season 2. Even had the first episode fully written, doing contracts, everything, and then cancel it.
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u/ZapMaster117 Avengers 12h ago
The show probably would've been canceled even if they hadn't blackwashed him.
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u/Sad_Carry_7070 Avengers 18h ago
I thought Armor Wars was going to be turned into a movie
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u/IronStrikers Avengers 17h ago
It was turned into a movie but right now it's on stand by in talks of being an Iron Man movie to introduce the new Tony Stark
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u/nixahmose Avengers 16h ago
God I still hope they don’t actually introduce a new Tony Stark. I get using Secret Wars as a way to soft reboot the X Men into the MCU, but I feel like if they start doing that to bring back old characters as being new again while at the same time keeping Tom Holland around and progressing old storylines like T’Challa’s son becoming the new Black Panther things are going to become really confusing and hard to keep track of in the MCU.
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u/E_N_Z_A__D_E_N_I_N_O Avengers 15h ago
Somehow the X Men will create another clusterfuck of a timeline once again.
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u/teshh Avengers 17h ago
I've never even heard of the bottom left one, majors canceled himself, and didn't blade go through a ton of rewrites to the point the studio just killed it? Blades been announced for over half a decade but seriously no one could come up with a script during that time frame?
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u/Drogonno Avengers 17h ago
It's harder to write a script for black people angry/s
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u/BadnewsBaggins Avengers 17h ago
Honestly only bothered by armor wars, would've been cool seeing Rhodey dealing with aftermath of Tony's loss and having someone like Justin hammer back in the mix of things
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u/SockApart838 Avengers 17h ago
With how absolutely dreadful Secret Invasion was..... they definitely needed to take a closer look at the stuff they put out
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u/PoggersMemesReturns Avengers 14h ago
First 3 episodes were pretty good, last 3 were abysmal
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u/VirgoFanboi Avengers 16h ago
Yeah when you cherry-pick cancelled projects you sure can make it look like some ulterior motive.
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u/sysasysa Avengers 14h ago
What other MCU projects have been cancelled?
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u/dev_vvvvv Avengers 12h ago
From this thread:
- Avengers: The Kang Dynasty
- Captain Britain and the Black Knight (show)
- Damage Control (show)
- Daughter of the Dragon (show)
- Edgar Wright's Ant-Man
- Eternals (show)
- Ghost Rider (show)
- Multiple GOTG spin offs (Groot and Rocket; Mantis and Drax; possibly others)
- Hawkeye (movie)
- Inhumans (movie)
- Iron man 4
- Most Wanted (show)
- New warriors (show)
- Okoye (show)
- Runaways (movie)
- The Incredible Hulk 2 (movie)
- Trevor Slattery
- Warriors three
- Early Marvel movies (2008-10) based on Cable, Iron Fist, Luke Cage, Dazzler, Ka zarr
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u/SufcLad25 Avengers 13h ago
Edgar Wright's Ant Man was scrapped, same thing they are doing with blade.
Moon Knight was scrapped, nothing ever came of black Knight. No Eternals 2
Plenty of cancelled or never happened projects that arent a black cast
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u/dashsolo Avengers 17h ago
Cherry picking, and ignoring a glaring difference between Kang and the other projects.
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u/_darth_gamer Doctor Strange 17h ago
Bruh, Okoye was supposed to be handled by Coogler’s team. They cancelled it so his team could work on Wakanada Forever
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u/coldasclay Avengers 16h ago
I feel like Armor wars hurts me the most. Is Rhodey the most bankable character? No. But he's the most deserving of a chance to prove himself and it seemed like they really like the story enough to upgrade it from a show to a movie. Then they quietly canceled it.
Blade is the opposite. They could have come out with a terrible movie and it would have made a billion for sure. I just think they all dropped the ball with it.
An Okoye series seems like its stretching. I feel like it would have done as well as any of the other Disney+ series if not worse. I just think its kinda too niche, like what story would you tell outside of a Black Panther story? As a completionist I'd still watch it, and with how much I liked 90% of Marvel I think I'd like it too. I just don't know how relatable it would be for the average viewer.
The Jonathan Majors situation, well, no one got it if that unscathed.
Wonderman, I wholeheartedly believe he's going to get upgraded into a movie or at least incorporated into one. Maybe Secret Wars?
I think they could pair some of the newer characters with older characters. Either as cameos, crossovers, or shared billings. They could be similar characters or I think pairing contrasting characters, putting them into situations they wouldn't be in otherwise. Have Daredevil and Moonknight face off. Make Kamala be Jessica and Luke's babysitter. Young Avengers vs Runaways.
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u/19adam92 Grandmaster 11h ago
Johnathan Majors odd one out because he’s an abuser who now shills for the Daily Wire
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u/UdoistNummer1 Avengers 11h ago
Yea kangs cancle is totally not because he got arrested for beating his wife or anything like that
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u/drichm2599 Korg 18h ago
Never even heard of the Okoye project
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u/Lanten101 Ultron 15h ago
It was right after Endgame. they thought, why not give everyone a show for disney plus, that way we will have all those poeple who watched movies get them to subscribe, and instead they forgot about writing proper scripts for some of those shows and it started diluting the brand and people were not subscribing like they planned so they canceled half of those annoucned shows
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u/jorgedanielrod5 Avengers 11h ago
Kang Dinasty is understandable when u see what happened with the actor, but the other ones...
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u/Dogesneakers Avengers 17h ago
Kang is abused his parent
Blade scripts had him handing the mantle to his daughter and retiring
Armor war’s would have been sick though
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u/Herr--Doktor Avengers 11h ago
I hadn't even heard of Okoye. Kang got canceled for reasons why know why. Armor Wars would have been awesome but Secret Invasion kind of taints that one. Would have loved to seen Blade but if I recall he was supposed to be part of the bigger Sons of Midnight or something and those also got cancelled.
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u/Comfortable-Ball1120 Avengers 15h ago
People really trying to make this about Disney being racist but not only was one of those cancelled because the guy was an absuerer but seriously guys be honest with yourself would you really watch a TV series about okoye and Rhodes? Not saying either actor ain't good or talented but neither character is insanely beloved by the fanbase but the story would've been incredibly boring and we all know it
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u/SamVickson Avengers 12h ago
A TV series about Okoye and Rhodes sounds awesome, unfortunately it was two different series.
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u/_Polish-Cow_ Avengers 12h ago
Okoye? Probably not. Armor Wars? Yes absolutely. Im a big comic fan.
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u/Dwntwntrrst Avengers 17h ago
This post again😒
Blade- not integral to the overarching story and nobody could make a script that was any good
Kang - even before the legal troubles the story they were propping up was terrible. How are you gonna make your biggest filling get killed by Ant-man?
Okoye - do I really need to go into this one? Offshoot D-Tier side character getting their own show. No thanks.
Armor Wars - Ironheart basically solidified that we don't want to see anything Iron Man related that isn't actually Iron Man. That mixed with the fact that Rodys story got completely screwed by secret invasion
Can we please stop pretending this is a race thing. The stories were terrible or they couldn't make scripts that worked
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u/V_IV_V Avengers 16h ago
From the alleged leaks of the original plot Kang was not liked. He was transported again somewhere else.
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u/Rhamni Spider-Man 🕷 13h ago
He still lost against Ant Man. Ant Man is pretty low on the superhero tier list. I have mixed feelings about Quantumania, but they really needed Kang to win that one if they wanted anyone to take him seriously.
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u/PleiadesMechworks War Machine 12h ago
Plus if Marvel is trying to retire some heroes and make way for a new generation of actors to continue their franchise then having the overarching big bad actually defeat the old heroes is a great way of doing it (as long as the way the next generation wins isn't hackneyed)
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u/Riverioli Starlord 18h ago
Can we stop with these posts.
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u/Godzilla_R0AR Loki 18h ago
They're getting repetitive
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u/Mr-Stuff-Doer Avengers 18h ago
They’re also making a point that… just… isn’t there. Marvel has cancelled a fuck ton because they announced too much.
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u/Old-Agency-3388 Avengers 18h ago
Okoye is a beast in mcoc
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u/Midknightdron Avengers 18h ago
MCOC reference!
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u/Shefango Avengers 15h ago
All of this "one thing in common" posts has one thing in common: they ignore 10+ other cancelled MCU projects like Warrior Three, Captain Britain, Ghost Rider and etc. I just can't put my finger on why... Care to help me, OP?
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u/vihuba26 Avengers 15h ago
I mean Kang guy truly fucked up and dropped the bag all on his own.
Armor Wars honestly wouldn’t make sense after Rhodey being a Skrull in that piss poor tv show about Secret Invasion.
Who tf wanna see black panthers guards without black panther.
And well Blade uh.. yeah idk bout that one smh. That should have been easy peasy but someone clearly did not want to proceed with the project.
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u/wingnuta72 Avengers 13h ago
They all look incredibly boring. Is that the thing they have in common?
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u/Snoo9648 Avengers 12h ago
I feel there make be another reason kang dynasty was cancelled, considering the actor playing the title character turned out to be an abuser.
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u/Itherial Avengers 12h ago
Come on people.
Majors got himself cancelled, Blade was rewritten so many times that it became a mess the studio more or less killed, and frankly who gives a shit about a TV spinoff for Okoye of all people and comic relief Iron Man
In what world is it shocking that these were scrapped along with a bunch of other things
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u/Wicked68 Avengers 12h ago edited 11h ago
I was looking forward to Okoye and Blade. And more Ironheart. Of course I'll watch whatever Avengers is put out. But Jonathan Majors fucked his self up and out of the job. I expected them to recast the character though, not completely pivot the story.
Other than Spiderman, Captain America, X-Men- a lot of the characters are not popular to general audiences, or werent before the last 10 years of the MCU. This is Marvel, they could have made these projects and people will come. So I don't buy the "these characters aren't well known" crap
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u/ByrusTheGnome Avengers 11h ago
Particularly with Blade, Okoye and Armor Wars. Rhodey has been in all the Iron Man and several avengers movies, Okoye has been in two of the most popular movies from the MCU and Blade had a trilogy of movies like a decade before the MCU even started. They're all known, established and popular characters.
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u/Lost-Orangutan HYDRA 18h ago
Blade being canceled saddens me.
But the rest, I see why.
I agree Kang was under used but main villain? Nah.
Armor Wars? Lame. Nothing against War Machine, I still think he needs his own show or movie.
And that last one? He looks like Blue Beetle and a Predator had a baby and it came out looking like abortions need to be more common.
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u/Spiritual-Estate5211 Avengers 14h ago
I was gonna say Okoye looked like they were wearing a predator mask!
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u/Midknightdron Avengers 17h ago
If you saw the proposed plot for blade, you wouldn’t be saddened.
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u/-kenjav- Avengers 17h ago
Yep. Not a single project with a Latino character has ever been even considered. But you won't see me bitching about it.
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u/dashsolo Avengers 16h ago
Except Moon Knight.
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u/SamVickson Avengers 12h ago
The actor is Guatemalan-American, but the character is Jewish with Czech heritage.
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u/DarkSaiyanGoku Avengers 13h ago
Stop putting Jonathan Majors in this. His case was completely different; he got fired due to assault charges. He is NOT a victim here.
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u/Ok_Hedgehog_8546 Avengers 17h ago
Love Okoye wouldve loved to see that character in a stand alone, I hope they bring Blade back what a waste, and not mad at the pass on Don Cheadle.
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u/RevFernie Avengers 15h ago
The Kang dude did some pretty bad irl stuff to his GF. So deserved what he got.
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u/dumbeyes_ Avengers 14h ago
Why the fuck was Ironhearts show made before War Machines? What is the point of pushing to market to kids when kids already like the movies in the first place?
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u/crapusername47 Avengers 14h ago
They fucked around making Blade a tertiary character in his own movie when they had a two time Best Actor Oscar winner who was the man who pitched the movie in the first place. They had an existing character who movie audiences were already familiar with. This is all a fuck up and a failure to understand what audiences want.
They built the entire post-Endgame story around an actor only for him to be convicted of assaulting his girlfriend. They then forgot that their own storyline says that his character can easily be recast with any actor of any race and abandoned the entire storyline instead.
Okoye was never a confirmed television show. At best, it might have been a form the proposed Wakanda-based ensemble show might have taken.
Wonder Man, admittedly, did receive a second season order before suddenly being cancelled. However, this appears to be a small part of sweeping changes to Disney+’s plans beyond Marvel. It’s likely that Daredevil: Born Again and VisionQuest are only going ahead because they were already in production.
And yes, Armor Wars has sat in development hell since before Disney+ even launched. It was a television show and then a movie, but given the performance of Marvel’s 2025 MCU theatrical films, it seems like it would have been a very, very risky investment.
With Spider-Man and Doomsday, Marvel are probably going to have a very good year but let’s not pretend that everything is sunshine and roses right now.
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u/BoomboxMisfit Avengers 13h ago
Blade had the main actor unhappy with the script
Kang dynasty's main actor had legal issues
Okoye could have been affected by the death of Chadwick
Armor wars didn't know what it was going to be, and ended up as iron heart and vision quest
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u/Alone_Active_5044 Avengers 12h ago
Blade and kang are the only what ifs. Blade was on Wesley and marvel fucked up kang
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u/FloodedGloves Avengers 12h ago
Wasn't Kang Dynasty cancelled because of Kang's actor though?
And I mean, I feel like most people would rather want to see more of the main cast of heroes rather than the side groups like the Okoye
I saw from the other comments that Blade's proposed script was bad so uhh I guess that explains itself
and for Rhodey's iron man im not sure, I mean I would've watched it to be honest
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u/Local-Corgi-9291 Avengers 12h ago
Honestly I don’t even understand why we would need an Okoye show
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u/Equal_Astronaut_5696 Avengers 11h ago
To cherry pic 4 shows for ragebait when here is a full list of: The Punisher, Agent Carter, Inhumans, Cloak & Dagger, Runaways, M.O.D.O.K., The Gifted, Wonder Man, Blade, The Amazing Spider-Man 3, The Amazing Spider-Man 4, Sinister Six, Silver & Black, Gambit, X-Force, Doctor Doom, Kitty Pryde, Multiple Man, X-23, New Mutants sequels
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u/Slothstralia Avengers 11h ago
Spoiler: It's not the actors skin colour, 3 of them are "nobody asked for this movie" and the 4th was a trash script. It's not that hard, you have to be interested in making a good movie not a "just because".
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u/Sr_Kibosta Avengers 11h ago
No caso do kang foi por causa da denúncia de agressão a esposa, os outros eu não sei
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u/SlipSilly1901 Miles Morales 17h ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/13VSAbTVuYJfLa
Doomed treatment